Greetings..From past experience,has anyone had outstanding regular success with any particular brand of buck or doe lure? I have done very well with James Valley lures but over the past 2 years it seems to have lost its magic.Looking for another lure to try...Even homemade. Anxiously awaiting your experiances!Thanks for your time...Cotton
Never had much luck on commercial lures but I made up my own concoction of lure by using stuff from a trapping supply house. The stuff I make works great but is not "buck" specific. It is more of a curiosity lure and it attracts deer real well. It's been a while since I made any but some of the ingredients are: tonquin musk, beaver castor, and vanilla. The real tonquin musk is made from a kind of deer that is not indiginous to the US, the vanilla has always been a smell that attracts deer, and the beaver castor is used in lots of different trapping lures and it really seems to draw curiosity from all animals.
I purchase direct from a deer farm lures that are fresh and sotck in the bow shop. Now with talking with the deer farm owner his comments are some days deer lure works and some days it sure does not seem to make much of a difference.
I use during the chase period of the rut, and had it work one time over 10 year period. Had a 8 point follow in a scent line I had made from his scrape, past my tree stand, to another scrape.
I no longer buy buck lures as only a few over the years worked for me,to much money wasted!! i now use when i can get it,freash doe urine after i harvest one,and bottle it right there! also if My brothers or myself or some one we know gets a buck,we save the tarsel glands,and freeze in the bucks urine,till we use it! as for sex attractents ,hunt where the does are,soon or later one will come into season and thats the best lure anyone can use,freash on the hoof!!
I used VS1 last year in Ohio on drag rags that I hung up when I got to the stands, had a 6pt, 3 different 8pts and a 10 pt follow the scent trail in one morning and all chewed on the scent rag, it's the best and most expensive scent I have ever used 45 plus dollars a ounce but I had close to 15 different bucks react to it and come inside of 20 yds to get a nose full and a taste in the 4 days I used it.
corn
Biggie's on to something. However, getting your personal scent to a minimum and hunting where the does are works best for me. Does will be found in preferred feeding areas and a mock scrape that you pee in will surprise you when the prerut kicks in.
I use scent as part of my "bag o tricks". Mostly it's like chicken soup and "couldn't hurt". At the worst deer seem to ignore it.
I'll most often use it as a "stopper" or curiousity arouser.
My favorite application is as Bill stated above. Make a fake scrape and put some(any brand) in the scrape.
Make sure you make the scrape in a place you can shoot to and not downwind of your stand.
For what it's worth, I've had as good luck just scraping away leaves to bare earth with no scent. The smell of fresh dirt seems to make them curious.
Yeah Bill, I've peed in several scrapes. some they abandon and some they tear all to pieces. I think the ones they abandon are secondarys that they most likely would have not revisited anyway.
I've often wondered if I varied my diet a few days before "freshening" them, if it would make a difference. I mean, cheeseburger pee has got to be a foreign odor to a deer eh?
Deer Dander by Dan fitzgerald works great as a cover sent and a atractant , it makes you smell like a deer . Also I have had great results using trails end by the wildlife research center . The stuff stinks like pines oil but I have watched a many of deer walk by my food plot or bait pile to check it out , lick and smell it before going to the food . It is a food attractant and has urine in it also . Ive seen alot of does and small bucks using both of these products and have taken quite a few using them , never killed a big Buck using either one but I dont trophy hunt unless a big boy happens to come out .
Mike
QuoteOriginally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
I mean, cheeseburger pee has got to be a foreign odor to a deer eh?
Dang - I thought I liked *my* meat rare.
As to best deer lure - I'm convinced it is "me giving away my position because I need to stretch, eat, whatever". Nothing brings the deer faster, in my experience.
A friend of mine took a rag that he had rubbed all over his goat(he stinks real bad)...turned a 120class 8pt 90deg right to him...
I once turned a buck 90deg by a properly placed dump LOL
funny what works sometimes LOL
I have found Golden estrous to be absolutely effective, every tine I used it the last two years. I pick high travel trails in the timer within a few hundred yards of thick bedding areas. I would set out the scent about 5 feet off the ground on a day that had light to moderate wind. Every time I used it I had a buck come to the scent.
Bob.
My favorite during the rut used to be Shur-Kill Scrape Mate in the bright orange bottle. Always, always brought bucks in. I haven't been able to find it in years. The rest of the time, I stay quiet and watch the wind. I started using an earth scent wafer pinned to my clothing last year though. You don't get busted as soon that way LOL! This is hunting on the ground, if that matters.
I forgot to mention that I have also had good luck with tarsel scent. I also typed timer in my first post. Clearly I meant Timber. I have used fresh earth scent as a cover scent. It works well, as does "cover -up" and "sweet earth" scent. I like the oak forest scent and plan to buy some from Joe Skipp who posts on this board.
Bob.
This may sound a bit silly but here's the only scent (if thats what you want to call it) I use anymore. There's a large county park near my home where no hunting is allowed. It is full of deer and there are scrapes everywhere in it. I simply visit there and use a small plastic spoon to dig up dirt from the natural scrapes and place it into a clean plastic bottle. Then I use that to fresshen scrapes or make mock scrapes where I am hunting. It works very well.
Dennis, thats not silly, thats a pretty interesting idea.
Well, Mike it does get a bit "silly" when you have to explain to your wife why you have a couple dozen bottles of dirt stored in the freezer!
Ask your wife or girlfriend for some help in this department. Why do you think they have strings on them. Cannot get anymore real, fresh or natural.
Dennis - It gets real interesting when you have a few zip lock bags of these in the freezer!
Bob Urban
Thanks for all the advice. I will most certainly try your suggestions and report back.I"m always looking for new adventures.!!! Thank youi again,,,Cotton
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bobby Urban:
Ask your wife or girlfriend for some help in this department. Why do you think they have strings on them. Cannot get anymore real, fresh or natural.
Dennis - It gets real interesting when you have a few zip lock bags of these in the freezer!
Bob Urban
Bleah! :eek: Man, if I ever heard an argument for sillhunting - that is it.