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Title: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: jacobsladder on February 27, 2007, 02:27:00 PM
For the price.. is the bitz that much better than a Jojan.  I can buy two jojan monos for the price of one bitz.  I probably wont build more than 3 dozen shafts per  year....... thanks for any advice.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Tim Fishell on February 27, 2007, 02:34:00 PM
Steve, I just finished my first arrows and I use a bitz.  That thing is really awsome and easy to use.  I have never used a JoJan but from what I seen the bitz would be pretty hard to beat.  Hopefully somebody with a little more experience can help more.  

Tim
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: jacobsladder on February 27, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
thanks tim... I saw your arrow pics. they look nice!  Jason and I got 7 shots at bunnies last saturday.. neither of us connected.... maybe next time!
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: varmint on February 27, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
My next will be a Bitz.

I currently use a Jo-Jan,no problems at all,great jig.

I've also used an Arizona EZ,I like the idea of doing an entire arrow at once.

I think the Bitz is the best tho.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: fxe on February 27, 2007, 03:04:00 PM
You might want to check out the grayling jig.I think it's a knock off of the bitz but in plastic.It's about half the price of the bitz.Had mine about 15yrs. and it does fine.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: BernieH on February 27, 2007, 03:22:00 PM
Why not a JoJan Multi and do 6 arrows at a time?
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: whitebuffalo on February 27, 2007, 03:50:00 PM
Gizzard let me use his Jojan, I Loved it, I used bitz when I worked at the archery shop. we had 12 on a lazy susan and to me no big deal but a big chunk outa my pocket. I'd rather take the extra money and buy some dipping tubes, paint, feathers, tape, etc. I have a grayling right now and the only thing I really don't like about it is that it has a magnent to hold your jig. I use tape now and don't need it to hold and I have to be careful to hold the jig so it doesn't pull my jig from my hand and mess and helical up.
Jest my two cents. Either way You'll be happy and can't wait to see some of your arrows. JB
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: mbbushman on February 27, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
I just got a Jojan multi fletch last week, and it is very simple to use, no problems so far. I don't need to fletch 6 at a time, but the price was right. Can't beat $45 for a Jojan multifletch setup.  :cool:
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Kingstaken on February 27, 2007, 04:14:00 PM
You will find that the Bitz is well worth the money..
I've had both for a number of years and the Jojan clamps just don't hold as good..
As a matter of fact I just bought my second Bitz at the recent PA Outdoor show.
IMHO...
The Bitz is :
Easier to clean and maintain..
Also the clamps are much stronger and hold the fletch tighter and in general hold up better..
Great adjustment for fletch placement on the shaft..
The Bitz is heavier so it wouldn't fall over on you if you decide to move it from area to area..
I also use tape to fletch..
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: indianalongbowshooter on February 27, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
Have Jo-Jan mono fletch, just mounted it to my cresting table, works great and will put a ton of helical on a feather, honestly like it better then the bitz I had, gave it to a guy for his Dads birthday a few years ago.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: varmint on February 27, 2007, 05:09:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BernieH:
Why not a JoJan Multi and do 6 arrows at a time?
That's the one I use,but it only does one fletch at a time.I was saying the Arizona EZ allows you to do an entire arrow,all 3 fletches at one time.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: WESTBROOK on February 27, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
Been using my Jojan for 15 years, works like a charm.

Eric
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: wingnut on February 27, 2007, 05:33:00 PM
I have four bitz' and love em.  But if I had it to do over I would buy two JoJann Multifletchers.  Do a dozen at a time and be done with it.

Mike
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Ga.boy on February 27, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
Bitz!
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: LBR on February 27, 2007, 06:24:00 PM
Bitzenburger and fletch tape--makes a multi-fletcher obsolete (with feathers at least).

Chad
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Shakes.602 on February 27, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
Another Vote FOR Bitz!!
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Frank AK on February 28, 2007, 03:02:00 AM
I just use my jo jan multi fletcher. i havent had a problem. And I built about 6 dozen arrows this year.

As a matter of fact I just made 6 arrows today for my bunny hunt this week!
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Wild Willie on February 28, 2007, 10:35:00 AM
My vote is for the jo jan I have been using one for over 20 years.A few years ago I decided to switch to a bitz after a couple dozen arrows I sold the bitz and went back to the jo jan.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: BernieH on February 28, 2007, 12:04:00 PM
You still fletch one feather at a time with either the Bitz or the JoJan multi. Except with the multi you do one feather on six arrows at a time. So you can do 3 feathers on a dozen arrows in an hour using normal glue.

I've not tried the fletch tape, so maybe 1 feather at a time on a Bitz for a dozen arrows is actually quicker.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Dick in Seattle on February 28, 2007, 12:11:00 PM
just finished my first batch of arrows, using the Jo Jan multi... well, actually, I used one station of the Jo Jan multi.  I used the fletching tape and immediately discovered that one clamp is all that's necessary.   The clamp worked well.  As it happens my son has a Jo Jan mulit as well, but he got his used along with a bunch of odd extra clamps... some straight, some right helical, some left.  the other night we decided to cut out Jo Jans down to three stations each and split up the clamps so that each one had a right helical station, a left and a straight.   The tool will still be nice and stable on the bench and very versatile.

dick in seattle
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: James Wrenn on February 28, 2007, 12:30:00 PM
I bought a bitz and wish I had went with the 6 arrow jojan.I also have a martin that I like just as well as the bitz for a lot less money.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: WestTnMan on February 28, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
I have an Arizona I've used for years and recently got a Jojan. The Jojan is the way to go. I like being able to glue on more than one feather every 30 min. I wouldn't recomend an Arizona although they do work. The Blitz was just too much for what it is IMO.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Walt Francis on February 28, 2007, 01:59:00 PM
I have had all four types, the Arizona, Martin, JoJan (single and Multi), and Bitz, I sold all except the Bitz's.  I have three of those but only need one when using fletching tape.  I will get another three if I ever get into a hurry and want to produce arrows in quantity using glue.  Currently, I like the idea of using the same jig for the entire set of arrows and with three Bitz’s I am able to use one jig set up for three different size shafts.

Rating them in order of preference I like the Bitz the most, it is quality.  Next would be the Martin followed closely by the JoJan single.  Although the Martin feels cheap, being made of plastic, the ease of minor adjustments and magnetized clamps gave it the edge over the JoJan.  The downside with the JoJan is its clamps and sloppy adjustment.  My clamps got weak after ten years and I had to use spring type paper clips to get them to hold the feathers.  Also, both the Bitz and Martin are quite a bit easier to make minor adjustments to the fletching.  If you are using the same size aluminum, carbon, or fiberglass shafts and like to use glue the JoJan Multi would be my recommendation for the price, though a half dozen Martins or Bitz’s would work better.  My impressions of the Arizona Fletcher were not good, but I only used it with glue.  It might work well with fletching tape, but I doubt it, there was to much play in the one I had to get consistent feather placement.

Regardless of the type used cleaning and care is the key to having them function properly, always clean the clamps and jigs during and after use.  This one of the reasons for using fletching tape, there is no glue to clean up.  When using glue I line both sides of the clamp, inside and out, with blue painters tape and replace it when needed.  If glue dries on the clamps or jigs the JoJan clamps are the easiest to clean followed by the Bitz, Martin, and then the Arizona Multi Fletcher.

Well, those are my thoughts and experiences over the last twenty years, hope it will help.

Walt Francis
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: treenate on February 28, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
I have both, the Bitzenburger is twice the cost but it's 3 times better.
Title: Re: new to arrow building Jojan or bitz?
Post by: Pete W on February 28, 2007, 09:06:00 PM
I just tried Dennises Git-er dome fletcher,  http://git-r-donearchery.com/  and realy like it. I am thinking about getting a dozen for a table.
 They are the same as the Bhoning,Vader, and almost identical  to the maritn, except the Giter done does not have the nock tuning feature, but for $30.00 Canadian they are great.
 The 2 jojan Multy fletchers will be gone when I get the new ones.