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Title: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Onestringer on September 16, 2008, 07:36:00 PM
hey, I am baiting bears in Arkansas this fall, now I have been bear hunting a bunch, but have never actually set and tended the baits.  I am using bread, sweets (cinimon rolls, twinkies, etc) and grease from fryers.  

Will bears eat the bread if it gets moldy?  Any other suggestions?  I am filling 55 gallon drums with the stuff.

thanks,

Scott
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Charlie Lamb on September 16, 2008, 07:46:00 PM
Scott... a twenty pound bag of dog food will go a long ways and makes the bear have to hang around to eat it.

Horse sweet feed is another favorite.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: MnFn on September 16, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
Mix a bottle of liquid smoke w/ a gallon of water just pour aroundbait. Get some annis extract from the grocery store mix with some water and spray on bushes , trees around the bait.

One old bear hunter told me to get chicken guts and put in 5 gallon pail and set on top of your roof for a few days. Don't know if it is legal, because I would have never gotten that one by my wife!!
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: GrnMtnTradNut on September 16, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
fish in a bucket rotted works great if it stinks they love it
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Post by: woodslinger on September 16, 2008, 08:25:00 PM
Burnt honey is agood draw to get them into the bait.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Rick Butler on September 16, 2008, 08:34:00 PM
Big bag of cheap, dry dog food.  Honey for burning and gallons of used cooking oil.  Pour the oil around the bait site, bears step in it and leave a scent trail.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: wihill on September 16, 2008, 08:47:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by GrnMtnTradNut:
fish in a bucket rotted works great if it stinks they love it
I've heard this too - and it's a great excuse to get out bow fishing!  

The recipe I've seen was a 5gal bucket full of fish parts, and a gallon of liquid smoke.  Mix them together, put the lid on, and place them in two industrial strength black plastic bags.  Tie the bags off TIGHT.  Let it sit out in the sun for 4-5 days, and transport the hole mess IN THE BAGS out to the bait site, and open the bags there.  I would encourage you NOT to have eaten any lunch before the next step, but put some Vicks vaporub under your nose - take out the bucket, still sealed, and put  around one inch holes around the upper circumference of the bucket.  Suspend the bucket above your food, and leave it be.  The bears will come.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: BMOELLER on September 16, 2008, 09:25:00 PM
Could you always bait bears in Arkansas?  I thought it was like Georgia mostly luck.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Shawn Leonard on September 16, 2008, 09:34:00 PM
Do not forget the marshmellows, never baited bear but read a great article one time and just like the dog food, spreading them around keeps the bear busy, the guy also mentioned shelled peanuts as well. Shawn
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: fatman on September 16, 2008, 09:47:00 PM
Brian, I believe that bait is only legal in Arkansas on private land.  O thers please correct me if I'm wrong....

Kevin
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Onestringer on September 16, 2008, 11:10:00 PM
Thanks guys, and yes baiting is only legal on private land.

scott
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Post by: mrgreenhead on September 16, 2008, 11:11:00 PM
beaver carcasses rule!!!!
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 16, 2008, 11:15:00 PM
Pic-i-nic Baskets! Hey Yogi! Sorry Scott had to.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Talondale on September 16, 2008, 11:15:00 PM
Someone mentioned stale popcorn on another thread.  Said it worked and was lighter to carry in.

It was in this thread, you did read this one didn't you?:
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=060184;p=1
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: C. Lacey on September 17, 2008, 05:34:00 AM
Oh no!!! As soon as I saw your thread I realised I've left something belonging to Doc Ashby back at my last home!  He was 'testing' some old 'bringing in the bear' recipes out for piggies.   :rolleyes:  

We did the 'honey burn' (which seems to work a treat on Aussie piggies) but the BIG one - which I refused to allow him to open within city limits was some rendered fat.
He actually kept the 'pure fat' from some lovely T-bones (big ones), cut it up and stuffed it in tight in some jars.  This was then left out in the sun to 'mature' - I made him put it all into yet another bottle to avoid leakage.
Looked really ucky and when he left I just kept pushing it (the jar) under whatever bush was handy when I was mowing - he did have it up high but at some stage it was blown of the roof and no way was I going to get any closer than need be.

BUT...if we can get the Doc or some one of you other hopelessly derelict bush bums ...on here, maybe they can tell you 'exactly' how to create this horrid stuff - which apparently bears just love.   :eek:
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Bonebuster on September 17, 2008, 06:15:00 AM
Take a cordless drill out next time you go to bait. Also take along a fresh bag of Gummi worms.
Find a hardwood log, and drill about ten 3/8ths inch holes in the hardwood log. Jamb the Gummi worms down into the holes, leaving a couple hangin out so they are easy to get. Also just drop a few here and there to let them get a taste for them.

You want to see something funny? Watch a two hundred plus pound animal try to dig a Gummi worm out of a tiny hole in a log.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: John3 on September 17, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
I bear hunted in NW Arkansas for four years. We had great results using old fryer grease and old bread, donuts ect...

I will say to stand your barrel upright, cut a 4"x 6" hole in the bottom at ground level. Stuff the hole full of logs/sticks. Only a bear can pull them out and small critters cannot rob your bait site. Season opens Oct 1st, is someone running your baits now?

Some really rough beautiful country down there. I hunted the far south end of Washington county.

Good luck.

John III
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: MI_Bowhunter on September 17, 2008, 09:11:00 AM
Make sure you cover the bait, depending on what you use, birds and other critters will wipe you out before a bear finds it.    We found that using some brush and a few heavy logs helps keep the smaller stuff out.  It also lets you know if a bear has been in there.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: steadman on September 17, 2008, 09:16:00 AM
I had great luck with the bait you mentioned. The bears favored the fresh bread over the moldy, but when that is all that's there, they will eat it. I used the "bear crack" recipe and they loved it. Bacon ends also work. I got the bigger beras to show up when I used meat scraps. Good luck, i loved doing it, and am now hooked on bear hunting.Hope you find one like this guy!
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h160/steadman_2006/MDGC0052.jpg)
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Tom Leemans on September 17, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
Dog food is good for their coat too!
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Dr. Ed Ashby on September 17, 2008, 03:53:00 PM
Scott, theres some useful information in the Honey Burn thread in the Dangerous Game Forum. I brought that thread TTT for you there.

The secret stuff Cher is referring to is potent bear attractant.    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:   I'm not sure I can safely divulge the formula, because I don't have enough liability insurance to cover the damage, should folks use it without due caution and incur incidental injuries.    :bigsmyl:  

Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on September 17, 2008, 07:31:00 PM
Bread will not mold if it is thouroughly doused with bacon or fried chicken grease. It will go rancid but bears don't mind that. Here is a bear bait recipe I came up with when I lived in Michigan. Donuts from the dumpster behind any donut shop, used grease from KFC, 40 lbs bag or Ol' Roy dog food from Walmart, Half gallon of mollasses from Walmart, 10 tallow blocks for bird feeding cages. I chopped the tallow blocks up and mixed everything together in the barrel with a wooden paddlethen I poured the KFC grease over everything then use the paddle to make a hole in the middle of the pile and pour in about 2/3s of the molasses then close the hole over with the mixture and pour the remainder over the top for just a taste of sweet to bet them to dig into the barrel for more. Oh and make sure most of your donuts and poastries are at the bottome of the barrel so they are more occupied with digging in then what is happening around them. Just about any grocery store dumpster or restaurant dumpster will have a lot of baiting ingredients if you don't mind digging for it. I offer this because if your bait is hit aggressively you can go broke keeping it stocked. oh and lay the barrel on its side and stake it down so it can't be rolled and chain it so it can't be dragged off. Lay logs over the end and across it as well to make the bear work a little to get to it. One more thing I think I should mention. I don't know if they are still available but there used to be a company that made great big incense like sticks the scents of which when burned were Blueberry and 2 miles or rotting fish and they attract bears to be sure.
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: PAPA BEAR on September 17, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
howdy bear slayer...i have hunted blackies on oregon coast a lot (until they banned baiting) one of the best baits i ever used was donuts and donut grease..one of the things i do at every bait is mix up an area of grease and dirt together in front of bait,not for eating but when the bears come in to feed they walk through this mud hole and then when they leave they take a scent trail with them for another bear to find and follow.works great.  :wavey:    :campfire:
Title: Re: I need bear baiting help
Post by: George D. Stout on September 17, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
If you use Donuts, make sure there are no policemen around the barrel when you are ready to hunt   :saywhat:    :D