Hey guys,
After trying this adjustable string nock for about a year, I finally decided to do a "how to". I hope this works.
I try to tie my string nocks with the same size serving or bigger serving. For example, I have .030 halo for my center serving, and my tie on nocks are .030 halo.
All I have to do to adjust the nock is to simply twist up or down to the desired position. I never had one slip or come off yet. It took me about a year to figure out how to tie this "self locking knot" I don't think it's a real knot, but I'm not sure.
Here is the finished pic.
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Step 1
Cut a peice of serving, preferable the same size or bigger. Then make a "rainbow" above the center serving.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0855.jpg)
Step 2
Start on either end of the rainbow. I will start on the right side of the picture. I will take the loose end and wrap under the string and over the "rainbow".
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0856.jpg)
Do not know if you are aware but there is already one in the how to section of the site.
CS
Step 3
Then I will take the loose end and go under the string, and this time under the "rainbow".
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0857.jpg)
Step 4
Now it's time to work on the other end. I will repeat the steps, but this time I will start from the left side and the loose end will go under the string and over the "rainbow" in the opposite direction.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0858.jpg)
Step 5
Take the loose end from the left side and go under the string and under the rainbow.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0859.jpg)
Keep going, this looks interesting. Don't leave us hanging. This is different than the one in the How To Section.
Danny
Step 6
Now take the two loose ends and tie an overhand knot, so that the knot remains directly under the "rainbow.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0868.jpg)
Step 7
Pull the loose ends slowly and make sure that the opposite side of the knot looks like the serving is "lined up" and even.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0869.jpg)
Thanks for keeping it doing. Looks pretty cool :thumbsup:
Step 8
This part is a little tricky and you need to get the "feel" for it. You have to make sure the knot " settles" corretly. Too tight and you dig into the serving, too loose and the nock slides up and down. Thats why I like to use the same size serving or bigger. I actually apply a lot of pressure to my knots. I trim one side and burn at a time, to insure that the knot doesnt slip.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0870.jpg)
Step 9
burn ends all the way to the knot to ensure that the knot doesnt slip.
Finished product.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0871.jpg)
Thank you. I've been wanting to try this, but was to inept without help.
So far I've hunted with the same set for one year without any failures, and it's just as adjustable as day 1. I like having my nocks adustable for a couple reasons. When my string creeps and my nocking point is 1/32" off it bothers me! LOL! Because I shoot 3 under, I like being able to adjust the bottom nock to the size of arrow nock that I use. It seems that if the nocks are too tight, it causes flight problems for me. I also like being able to set my tab right under the bottom string nock.
I just wanted to share. It works for me, but it may not work for all. Feel free to ask questions!
Ryan
Thanks for posting.
Thanks, it's a little different than I've been doing. I'll give it a try!
Thanks Ryan. I have wanted to try an adjustable nocing point and now I have an idea how to do it! Thanks again.
Tom
That is different than the one I use.(from how to)
Pretty cool to see the same needs answered in other ways.
Thanks.
That's exactly what I need. Thank you for posting that.
I have mono served strings and just tie a series of knots using the thread from an old bowstring. The mono allows me to "screw" it up and down and I'm with you. It's great when things change. Easy to adjust.
You guys are welcome, and thanks for the kind words. Since this seems to be giong well, maybe a "how to" on catwhiskers?
Like these...
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Ryan
interesting knot! thanks for sharing! :thumbsup: :clapper:
Yes on the catwhiskers. I've tried to tie them in several times and always screw them up.
Nice tutorial... thanks!
I really like it, I have been using floss and am not happy with the fuzzing, does fishing Mono work well on these?
Bring on the whiskers!
Earl,
Sorry, I've never tried fishing mono. I've only used Halo and 62xs.
I'll get working on the pictures for the catwhisker "how to". Hopefully I can post it by tomorrow.
Thanks!
Ryan
I'm a fan of Beaver Balls. I think they really add to the look of a longbow, but I doubt they are any more effective at quiting the string.
Thanks! I will give this a try.
RonP
Real good stuff, S2.
Here's how I do my nock points ...
1. liberally coat the serving in the nock point area with beeswax or any string wax (helps lots to keep any glue from sticking to the serving)
2. set an initial nock point location using a bow square
3. using waxed Dacron bowstring fiber, tie 4 to 8 overhand "granny" knots at that location - not too tight, not too loose ... more loose than tight ... there's a feel for this that you'll get after yer first attempt
4. double the last knot
5. apply a tiny dab of quality thin CYA to just that last knot - it's just enuf glue to hold that knot together
5. snip off the glue stiffened knot tag ends
6. shoot the bow - adjust the nock point up or down by twisting the knot
7. when ya find the sweet spot nock point location, coat the entire nock point with thin CYA
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S2 Bowstring
Looking at your knot it does have a name and you can be proud of yourself for your woodsman ship and knowledge of compression knots.
Try this same thing when ever you want to close the top of a bag or stuff sack.
S2, how do you know that the nock point is not twisting or untwisting and hence moving your nock point as you shoot your bow? It would seem that the release would put the right pressure on it to spin it a little bit every time and then after a while you would be nock high or low.
Rob,
Thats a cool tie on nock. Thanks for sharing. Thats why I love this site! So many great ideas to help me improve my trad bowhunting!
Bill, what is the name of the knot? I would love to find out. Thanks!
WidowEater, Great question! What I did to check was I marked my serving with a permanent pen, and I also mesaured the distance from the top of my serving to the nocking points. For me this knot works, but it may not work for everyones shooting style. Also everyone wont get the same results as me. If the not is tied incorrectly or tied too loose or too tight, the results will then vary. I check my brace and nocking point everytime before I shoot, so even if it was off, I can give it a quick twist and it's right there. I make the knot tight so that I really need to put some effort into twisting it for it to move. I also use two nocking points and shoot 3 under, I serve the center serving in the same direction as the string twist. I release with my right hand so I would guess it would spin following the twist which would mean the nock would spin down, so I suppose if the bottom nock was twisting upon release, by the end of my shooting session, the bottom nock would be a bit below my arrow nock, but that doesnt seem to be happening, and if I'm gussing wrong and the nock would twist the other way upon release then the nock would be smashed into my arrow nock and thats not happening either. Im by no means a pro at this either, just sharing my personal results.
Thanks!
Ryan
i will usually tune my setup with a brass nock and then after im tuned and ready to go I nock an arrow and tie a nock point below the nock of the arrow. then i take the brass nock off and tie a nock point above it. both of these are permanent unmoving nock points which are glued in. I then dont worry about them moving and I can be sure everything will stay put with my split finger release
Rob,
Sorry, what is CYA?
QuoteOriginally posted by Gator1:
Rob,
Sorry, what is CYA?
Superglue.
QuoteOriginally posted by James:
QuoteOriginally posted by Gator1:
Rob,
Sorry, what is CYA?
Superglue. [/b]
Yes, but a THIN viscosity quality CYAnoacrylate - the best stuff to use can be bought at a hobby shop, under various brand labels (Hot Stuff, Jet, Great Plains, Quantum, or any house brand).
Thank you all for the help on the tie on nock...
I'm all done Brass Nocks.... Period...
Although my first one is not "Pretty"....