Post by: Guru on September 10, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
Terry never waivers in his quest to keep this site as the crown jewel of internet trad archery/ bowhunting. There's been a very disturbing trend for a bunch of guys to go to other forums and try to make him out to be some kind of traditional archery monster! The Adolf Hitler of TG, a liar, a cheat,etc.....
Don't believe it folks....all this nonsense is just that NONSENSE! I've seen the emails, I've seen paper work, I've seen PM's, I've seen the proof, I've seen the truth!.....If it wasn't for the fact that Terry was such a classy guy and won't stoop to the low level of these other "archery Icons", I guarantee he could set things straight, there's no doubt about it.
Terry is one of the finest men I've ever met! I'm extremely proud to call him a great friend. He's a family man first and foremost.He adores his wife and kids, they are his world! Again, I know this, because we've talked a lot about "things". We talk as much about family as we do bowhunting. I'm happy to say we're a lot alike.
Yes, we as moderators help do out, but the fact is this site is what it is because of Terry! His dedication, time, and effort to this site and it's members is unimaginable! His mission started out and is still today to have a site that showcases trad bowhunting in the most positive way possible. Plain and simple!
There's some folks out there that just couldn't "fit in" at TG for one reason or another. Those are the folks that like to run to other sites and try to show TG and Terry Green in a negative light. All that does is show anyone with a level head what these people are really all about.....not very classy,or whatever you want to call it.
So please, don't believe everything you read guys. Remember there's two sides to every story. As good as it would feel for a while to call these folks out with the real truth, it's just not worth stooping to that level......
I hope I got my point across...It was hard putting this into words....but I felt it needed to be said...thanx for reading
Post by: vermonster13 on September 10, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
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You're very right Curt.
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Post by: John3 on September 10, 2008, 09:58:00 PM
Trad Gang is the only bowhunting site that I visit everyday. Because it is by far the best, with the best archers/hunters sharing ideas, a bit of fun teasing and 100's of years of bowhunting knowledge in good fellowship. Terry is a big reason why this continues. Matter of fact this site is so good I send $20 a year to make sure it continues.
Thank you to all who make it happen, esp. Terry.
Sanderlin III
Post by: pdk25 on September 10, 2008, 09:59:00 PM
Post by: Wannabe1 on September 10, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
Terry, if you read this, the time you helped me with info on the Arrow Dynamics and providing me contact information, all I can say is the world could use more people like you.
Curt: Well said my brother!! :clapper:
Stay safe and straight shooting.
Post by: DW on September 10, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
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Post by: White Oak on September 10, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
I have been around here for awhile and have seen some of Terry's efforts to keep this place top notch.
This is by far the best site available and this is due to the dedication of Terry and the mods.
I believe we will see that Terry has the support of the vast majority of the folks here.
Keep up the great work fellas.
Ed :thumbsup:
Post by: Slasher on September 10, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
I was sitting fat n happy without a clue...
All I know is he is very free and helpful on getting foks on target on here...
Thanks Terry
Post by: NoCams on September 10, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
Terry and everyone else who moderates this site, Big thanks to you all !
nocams
Post by: DW on September 10, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
Post by: Steve O on September 10, 2008, 10:11:00 PM
I find when I get REALLY busy like right now, the only place I make time to get to is Trad Gang. That says a lot to me.
Folks need to use the natural BS filter attached to the top of their neck...
Post by: Widowbender on September 10, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
David
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Post by: Danny Rowan on September 10, 2008, 10:55:00 PM
As soon as Terry opened this site I came here and have been here ever since. I do not go to the other sites at all anymore. This is my home and all Members are my family.
Never could understand why people would start rumors or bash their fellow human being.
Thank you Terry for giving me a place I can call home on this newfangled computer age stuff.
Danny
Post by: Ray Hammond on September 10, 2008, 10:59:00 PM
Thank goodness Terry doesn't pay much attention to the hype...or he might get discouraged. When you are on top, there's always someone trying to knock you down to their level.
It just goes with the territory, unfortunately.
Terry knows who he is, and knows we're here because of him, Rob, and the mods.
Post by: Arraflinger on September 10, 2008, 11:01:00 PM
Post by: rascal on September 10, 2008, 11:11:00 PM
I come here every day, Im always entertained and informed and down right delighted by the people and the posts I find here. It amazes me really, "give aways" to kids and new comers and old timers. Sage advice flows like water from a spring here.
For lack of a better description I find it very comfortable here and if thats due in any small part to Terry's actions then I think he should keep right on doing what hes been doing all along.
Post by: R.W. on September 10, 2008, 11:18:00 PM
Since that doesn't seem to be the case, I take it that these people don't have enough courage to even try to come to an understanding with Mr Green and/or the other moderators.
I am sure that Mr. Green loses no sleep over the infantile name game played by others.
Anyway, this site is a breath of fresh air. My appreciation goes out to the moderators, for the great job they do.
Post by: woodchucker on September 10, 2008, 11:33:00 PM
As I have said, This is My Home,and my fellow TradGang members are my family.
If you have a problem with a member of my family,(Terry)then you're not welcome in my home!!!!!
That's just the way I am.
(Curt,Thanks for the "heads up") :notworthy:
Post by: Dr. Ed Ashby on September 11, 2008, 12:01:00 AM
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” – Teddy Roosevelt
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
Post by: Over&Under on September 11, 2008, 12:15:00 AM
Way to uphold what is right Curt!
Post by: huntsmanlance on September 11, 2008, 12:31:00 AM
I am stunned that anyone would even say anything about Terry, the moderators or Trad Gang.
I started into traditional archery back in 03. The first site i found was the other one....if you even asked a question you would get all kinds of bad remarks....and i was brand spanking new and needed the advice! I was told by some of the good guys over there to try this site.
I was welcomed in with open arms, everyone was so friendly and helpfull. It made me realize that there were still good people out in the world....and learned that by and large most traditional archery people were just those kind.
This site has been nothing but a great place to meet fellow archers, find any answers you might have...and even just to shoot the breeze with!
Terry i just hate to see anything like this happen to a good guy. Im sorry you are having to go through it...but know that all of the real members here will always support you.
Lance
Post by: draco on September 11, 2008, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: Ben Maher on September 11, 2008, 12:53:00 AM
regards to all
ben
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Allan
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Post by: Chris Surtees on September 11, 2008, 02:46:00 AM
As with everyone else I really appreciate having the site and all the work that Terry and Mods do.
It sure has made my time across the pond a little easier to deal and has helped pass the time.
Thanks again Terry!
CS
Post by: tradtusker on September 11, 2008, 02:57:00 AM
thanks
Post by: Jack Denbow on September 11, 2008, 04:27:00 AM
Jack
Post by: Leland on September 11, 2008, 05:54:00 AM
Leland
Post by: Lawrenceu on September 11, 2008, 07:16:00 AM
There is a reason that I joined this site. It is a one of a kind. In an internet 'world' that is full of keyboard experts, arrogant boasting, insipid fighting, and just plain stupidity this site stands apart.
Post by: pine nut on September 11, 2008, 07:25:00 AM
Bill Knight
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Post by: rabbitman on September 11, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
Curt...Thanks for posting.
Post by: wingnut on September 11, 2008, 08:12:00 AM
I guess I'm happy we have 17,000 folks that want to have a good place to go that does allow that sort of thing to happen,
Terry we appreciate what you have done here at TG and remeember we have your back!!
Mike
Post by: Java Man on September 11, 2008, 09:10:00 AM
Thanks Terry. :clapper:
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Post by: Littlefeather on September 11, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
The fact is that jealous and insecure people are the ones who are always yelling the loudest. They feel insecure because they do not feel they share the same light as others are receiving. God Bless them because they are the ones who actually need the most help.
I happen to know the leader of this wolf pack and I actually valued his friendship up until he became so viscious toward the world around him because his Limelight was not so bright as other around them. This guy actually thumps the Bible pretty hard too! Hard to believe a guy can hold a Bible in one hand and pure hatrid in the other.
For all of you involved in this thread, please try and understand that those who rock the boat the hardest are those who desperately need your attention the most. As you can plainly see by this thread, they are getting exactly as they wish. They have succeeded in getting under your skin. When this happens once it will most certainly continue.
Terry is a man first and foremost. I've known Terry for many years now and because he and I are both men, we both know we will make mistakes as we traverse life. I have not always seen eye to eye with Terry no different than he has not always seen eye to eye with me. The fact is that we are men and we are all supposed to be imperfect by design. I can only say this, for every fault that Terry has as a man he try's 10 times over to create good to offset his shortcommings. Fact of the matter is that when you are in the public eye you'll sooner or later become a target for those who feel they aren't getting enough light shed on themselves. This is why the insecure huddle in small circles and make each other feel better by bashing others who aren't like them. It simply makes them feel better about themself if they can somehow find bigger faults in others. Truth of the matter is that there is nothing that makes me more proud than to know they are talking about me. At least I know I am on the right track if I am the center of their attention. It's positive-vs-negative addage of old. It's al old as that Bible the main hater carries.
My suggestion to Terry-Be yourself!!!!! You will always be and do exactly what is supposed to be done as long as you are doing it for the right reasons in your own mind and you are not INTENTIONALLY trying to injure others. It's the injury to others that drives us
further appart as brothers, men, and as the Human Race. If you don't like Terry's way then go start your own site to make yourself "happy". IF HAPPINESS IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. Hatrid toward fellow men solves absolutely nothing. Live and let live. We aren't designed to always agree. Carry-on Terry and just keep trying to do good and try your best to shake of those full of hate. You've got to know you did your best to help others
once your judgment day comes. If you should fall before then than you need to know there will be many more people beside you to pick you up than there will be to kick you back to the ground. Only pure evil would try so hard to constantly injure another man even if he did not agree with him.
If that happens I'll certainly be there to extend a hand to help you back up. You are afterall not expected to be perfect. CK
Post by: madness522 on September 11, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
I figure if some one feels the need to bad mouth another they aren't someone I would want to spend time with or be a friend of.
The number of users registered just this year is evidence of the quality of information sharing and gathering that goes on here. I am proud to be a part of this cyber camp and very rarely let another's opinions sway me or my attitudes.
I hope the loosers doing all the postings don't go away mad but rather just go away.
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Post by: ishiwannabe on September 11, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
The fact that he remains queit states alot about his character. Well done sir! I can honestly say that without Tradgang, and the great people I have met from it(Shawn, Curt, Mike, Chuck, Etc etc etc) I would probably still be a wheelie hunter.
My hat is off to all the mods, and to all the well versed trad nuts that constantly help people like me out. :clapper:
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on September 11, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
Terry is good folks. If you have trouble getting along with Terry, you probably need to look in the mirror...
Post by: Doug Campbell on September 11, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
Keep your chin up Terry and you know your welcome at my fire any time. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Texas Tinman on September 11, 2008, 11:49:00 AM
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Originally posted by cdworks:Ban me, throw rocks at me, call me bad names and make me feel unwelcomed if you see fit, but I agree with the post above 100%.
I just think the LDB question needs to be answered instead of avoided or deleted entirely.
I enjoy TG but there have been questions raised about the end of the auction for the LDB that should've been and still should be answered rather than deleted and MEMBERS banned for asking...especially by the better men at the better website.
(italics above not intended as a sarcastic slam, just meant to emphasize what many here have already said in this thread and has been said since the beginning of TG)
Post by: Molson on September 11, 2008, 12:19:00 PM
Some of them folks remind me of those people you see standing and cheering for their favorite politician at rallies. Too blinded by hate to see the truth and too ignorant to care.
Heck I'd consider it a compliment if I were important enough to spend that much effort on!
Post by: hunt it on September 11, 2008, 12:21:00 PM
I have been very busy recently and have not heard or seen the current going's on but I have this to say.
I've been around here for a few years now and have seen this before. Jealousy does strange things to folks. I have met and hunted with Terry and can say he is not in this game for the money. It is his passion for the sport we love and we should all be glad he has this much passion. Terry is one fine guy in my book and I am very thankful to know him and that he gives us this forum to learn and share this great passion we all have. This forum has given me countless friends and great folks to chat and share my passion with. Terry you have my full support and if there is anything in anyway I can do to assist please say so.
Well said Curt, our family is strong and lets not stoop to the levels of those that do!
Post by: nutmeg on September 11, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
That said, I visit the other site also and have friends there since I've been there from almost the beginning. It gets crazy over there and there is a lot more b%$$#@T. I've stayed away from that site for a long time because I couldn't tolerate some of the very fine people that took a bashing for no reason other than who they are.( it's easy to be a big mouth, no it all, bad ass in cyberspace). People have been banned from that site also. I still go there and probably always will. I'm a personal friend of the owner.
I'm not in the loop as far as this controvery goes and don't know any of the players on either side personally. The LDB never came my way and I could care less. I don't care where it is now.
I just wish there wasn't this schism in our trad family. I see it coming to no good end. It's gotten to be more than just a "family squabble".
Serious accusations have been made by some and the silent response has IMHO, been deafening.
It would be nice if both sides laid out their facts and got this thing settled once and for all. Clear the air and put it to bed. We're all big boys and girls. Rich Potter (nut)
Post by: cdworks on September 11, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
it all boils down to the question i asked above that is what has kept it alive not wanting to bash Terry IDK the man and from what i heard hes a good guy i just want the question to be answered which has been asked and deleted more than once.
Post by: Littlefeather on September 11, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
I'm not sure because I've never asked but do you think the reason Terry doesn't say much about the LDB is because hate runs so rampid in our ranks. I can see why we don't hear much about it. The way it looks to me someone may do something with the bow JUST TO HURT TERRY! Everyone had a chance to bid on the bow. There were no rules that went with the bow sale. Mike Huston was a fine man for allowing all to happen with the bow when it was his. The way I see it Terry has every right to do with the bow what he wishes no matter what you or I or others feel. It's Terry's bow now and obviously one hell of a big cross to bear. Geeze I'm glad I stay off the computer these days. What a world full of hate and glory seeking! CK
Post by: JC on September 11, 2008, 02:42:00 PM
Then I see this thread. I whole heartedly agree with everything CK said, and I’d say it again in all caps, repeated 4 or 5 times for good measure if I thought it would do any good. But it won’t, too many with ulterior motive or axes to grind that have nothing to do with the LDB.
“Geeze I'm glad I stay off the computer these days. What a world full of hate and glory seeking!”
It’s a damn shame….but I’m feeling that way too.
Post by: Terry Green on September 11, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
I won the bow in the 2007 St Judes auction as it was donated by the previous owner free and clear of any strings. As those that were here know the server crashed somewhere in the last couple of minutes even though we had gotten a new server hoping to prevent the events of the year before. Back then we had only one bid forum and one closing night with 9 pages of items. That one auction raised over $90,000.
The server had to be re-booted by our host,(called by Rob) and until that happened no body knew who won what. Our host said that some members had as many as 12 pages open all that last minute sniping just shut her down. It scared me to death as I had no clue if the server could even be revived. I have never seen our server, and its not even in this country
For that reason this year we linked two servers had four different forums closing 4 different nights to hopefully prevent that and it worked.
I bid on the bow because I wanted to 'semi retire' it to protect and preserve it and its history. It has been to TX on a group hunt, and to the Paradise on St Judes hunts. The bow is scheduled to go out for the last two weeks of this month, and again for the last two weeks of November. I might even hunt with it for a while after that, and then it will go on other group hunts after the 1st of the year. The bow is still hunting, just a little differently than before.
Certain folks registered and their 1st posts were attempts to stir up stuff about the bow, and yes, since their sole purpose was to cause problems they were banned. One guy from AL registered at least 3 times just to do so.
I haven't miss represented the bow or myself, or caused the bow any harm. As some of you know, I fixed the bow's limb twist and gave it a new travel tube.
All the LDB hunt threads are in the Memorable Hunts archived forum.
Too bad that since winning the bow, its been used as a club to beat me with by those that evidently don't like the idea of me having it, and folks that were banned from here for causing problems. I'm sure this wont stop them from hollering either.
I'd like to thank everyone for their comments here and through emails. It means more than you know.
Post by: Terry Green on September 11, 2008, 06:22:00 PM