Hi all.
Looking into buying some arrows, but a little overwhelmed.
Right now I've got two sets of carbons that I shoot, one is 8 gpp, the other is 14 gpp, looking to get something in between.
I pull about 35# at my draw of 27.5 inches.
Also looking to not spend loads of $$$.
I am interested in the Gold Tip 5575 Hardwood camo blems from Sipsey River, at 9.3 gpi (so on the 30" arrow my setup would come to about 11 gpp - just what i want!)
Not sure how the spine really works for these (I'm fairly new to all of this technical stuff).
Can anyone offer some help?
Sarah
I am thinkin those will be too stiff. A 3555 should be about perfect at 30" and a 125 gr tip.
Let us know if you are hunting or a target shooter. A carbon arrow will cost more and in my opinion aluminum last the best and more cost effective. I shoot mostly ceder ones I make now but there not nearly as durable as my other aluminum ones. I only have light carbon for my old Bear white tail hunter of the 80s variety. Not saying carbon is bad just pricey if you hit stuff other then the target such as I do sometimes.
Yep Sarah 33/55's! The longer you keep them the less weight you have to add.Carbons get real stiff when you start to wack them down. The more you cut the more weight you have to add to weaken them.Carbons are much more durable than aluminuns!! Hit a tree, bend an aluminum ;carbons take a lickin' keep on tickin'! Sipsey has great prices By the way!
Whether your bow is cut to center would influence the arrows a bit too.
Carbons are money well spent, but spend the time and money to tune them right and you will be happy you did.
I think 3555's are the way to go, and if you dont want a long arrow, you can get brass inserts to help weight up the tip.
Just wait until you start building woodies...lol.
Sarah, the 3555's are the way to go for your setup, I'm shooting them out of my 45# bear that pull about all that at my draw. Mine are 29.5" long and have a 50gr insert in them with a 145gr point, you would have to start out with a full length shaft with the 50 gr brass insert and 125 grain point they should come in around 450 gr that would be around 12.9 gpp.
thanks guys.
i'll think about the 3555's (though i'm a little bummed i can't get the 3555 in blems - out of stock - i think it'll be worth it anyway).
also - i plan on hunting with these.
sarah
Have you thought about the 35/55 in black. They are a lot less than the wood grain.
Definitely 35/55 in carbons.
where are they cheaper? sipsey is sold out of all 3555 blems. i couldn't find a cheaper source for any of the patterns...
any idea how often they get shipments of the blems?
Contact John at Sipsey River. He has Blackhawk 2000 for a very low price and they are just a tad lower in spine than the 35/55's and should work great for your 35 lb. pull. If you want more physcial weight just add weight tubes.
Send me an email. I am sure we can work something out.
I agree with Rabbitman.
The 3555's spine a bit stiffer than .500, so if you're planning on using them, you'd be best to leave them full length and add at least a 100gr brass insert or 100grs of adder weights behind the insert.
The Vapor 2000's actually spine around .535, which is perfect for lower poundage bows. I shoot them out of my my 44# bows with no added weight, full length with a 125gr tip and they fly quiet and incredibly flat/straight. The finish is really nice also - it's like a Beman/Axis type that's nice and smooth, not rough like the 3555's.
If you need the added weight, you can pick up weight tubes for CX/GT's that'll work, I've also heard of people using 1/4" rope inside the shafts to bump it up without increasing the spine.
i like the rough finish of the traditional style arrows, but aesthetics is only worth so much when you're a poor college student...
i'd be glad to hear more suggestions if anyone has any.
"Carbons are much more durable than aluminuns!!" (Spelling-->Aluminum) Much? no not really in my experience. I have more trash carbons then aluminum laying around and I rarely shoot carbon. Carbon arrows get hairline fractures in the nock end and render them useless. Shooting a damaged carbon arrow will cause serious injury. Carbon arrows are popular because they are more accurate and not more durable. You don't need that type of accuracy unless you are a target shooter or hunting beyond 35 yrds or so. Save your money young lady...really!
Sara,
I bought these arrows ( Sportsmans Guide arrow link (http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=424117) ) for my girlfriend. She shoots a Red Wing Hunter Recurve that is 44#@28". She has a 24 inch draw though so I figure that she is pulling between 35 and 40#. I put 145 grain target points on them. The fly great for her. No spine problems.
These are the same as the GT Expedition Hunters, I think they are just old stock with the previous model name, at a good cost savings.
Now, they do have vanes so I pulled them off and refletched them for her with 5" feathers. I had the stuff to do this, so the additional cost was nothing.
I understand the financial constraints of a college student... these are good shafts, but if ya can't find someone to refletch them for you, they might not be such a good deal.
OkKeith
Patrickzbower,
If I crack the tip or nock of my carbons then just cutting a small length of an aluminum shaft to glue over the infraction keeps the carbon shooting for many more days to come. And, they don't bend!
Sarah....carbons are inherently stiff and at your draw weight you will need about the lightest (spine) you can get. I would also suggest the Vapor 2000 or Goldtip 35/55 and let them full length. You will still need to play with tip weight a little to get them to bend enough for your draw weight/length.
Maybe our buddy Badger Arrow will help you out and keep you in budget...they are a sponsor here as well. I'm sending you a PM regarding this.
George
Well personally I would get a spine to better match your bow and not worry about arrow weight so much myself.Those 35-55s are way too stiff unless you leave them full length or add tons of weight.Niether is a good idea when you are only drawing 35lbs.A 600 spine GT entrada cut about 29" should work with more normal weight point weights 125-175gn range.It will give you a trajectory to make hitting something much easier too.With a 175gn head it will give you an arrow just under 400gns which will be a great match for that bow weight.Having an arrow that flys right instead of one just geared toward a certain weight will always give you the best results.Shooting is a lot more fun if you can hit something farther than you can spit too. :) jmho
fletching them myself isn't a problem. i have the equipment.
will look into these suggestions...
when you say Vapor 2000, what are you talking about? I can't find arrows with that name anywhere. Are they an older model?
thanks!
nevermind, found them.
according to the manufacturers, the Vapor 2000 and the GT Expedition Hunter 3555 have exactly the same spine (.500). The only difference is that the GT's are heavier (7.4 as opposed to 6.7 gpi).
i think i would like the heavier ones. and i found them for a really good price.
thoughts?
(i just made a lot of posts... :eek: )
sarah
Sarah, if you decide to get those, order some heavy inserts for the front to help spine them softer. At this point you should be able to get them in the ball park with 100 gr. adapters and 125 gr. field points, and let them full length to start.