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Title: help id this critter!
Post by: adkmountainken on September 07, 2008, 01:50:00 PM
Checked the trail cam this morning and found this critter. i know its not a good pick but what do ya think? i believe it is a coyote as there are plenty around. allmost looks like the mouth is open in a growl?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/adkmountainken/trail%20cam/trailcam004.jpg)
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Post by: WINDTALKER on September 07, 2008, 02:01:00 PM
I dont see a bushy tail what about a bobcat
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Post by: jojotater on September 07, 2008, 02:06:00 PM
Looks like a little deer.
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Post by: Toecutter on September 07, 2008, 02:06:00 PM
How tall is that little starter tree by its back-end?
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Post by: hill boy on September 07, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
fox, I think
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Post by: woodchucker on September 07, 2008, 02:08:00 PM
I'd say a coyote.

Looks like the trail cam "clicked" and scared the crap out of him.....slapped his tail between his legs and started to skeedaddle out of there!!!!! Cam probly caught him in mid-spin,hence the blurry picture.
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Post by: tippit on September 07, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
I'd say coyote too cause of coloring with the black up by the shoulder and back leg more dog like...Doc
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Post by: Froggy on September 07, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
Yote
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Post by: amar911 on September 07, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
If you look at the anatomy of the hind quarters and abdomen and the lack of a long tail, it is apparent that what you are looking at is not a member of any wild dog family and in fact is a deer.

Allan
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 07, 2008, 02:13:00 PM
Deer. (I cheated and used one of my photo-softwares)
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Post by: Killdeer on September 07, 2008, 02:17:00 PM
It does look like a fox, taking a shake, but the back leg between hock and paw looks too short. Otherwise, a little deer.

You need better pix, Kenny. I'm sending a film crew.
Killdeer  :)
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 07, 2008, 02:35:00 PM
Killy,
   first time i ever used a trail cam, got some good deer pic's but this one didn't come out as well.
 Vermon,
        can you clear this pic up with a different software?
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Post by: BMOELLER on September 07, 2008, 02:50:00 PM
Chupacabra
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 07, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
I sent you what I can do with this pic. The full-size original would give better results.
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Post by: BOFF on September 07, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
I gotta say deer.
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Post by: Baffinland Archer on September 07, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
Have to agree with amar911. The arse end of that critter looks more like a deer than any memember of the canine family. Also, the head has the characteristic deer-like profile.  My vote is deer.

Robert
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Post by: Bill Shepard on September 07, 2008, 02:57:00 PM
It appears to be a deer to me.
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Post by: James on September 07, 2008, 02:57:00 PM
Id have to say a deer.  Ive never seen a yote that fat with legs that small.
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Post by: Widowbender on September 07, 2008, 03:08:00 PM
Its a deer...I get pics like that from time to time in low light...

David
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Post by: Stone Knife on September 07, 2008, 03:10:00 PM
Looks like a deer that jumped the string
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Post by: BowHuntingFool on September 07, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
If thats a deer it sure does have a long tail?????? I'm saying its a Coyote, it has all the markings of one!
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Post by: gregg dudley on September 07, 2008, 03:35:00 PM
deer out of focus
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Post by: Don Stokes on September 07, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
Mountain lion!!
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on September 07, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
That there is Big Foot for sure.     :p
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Post by: Dry Creek on September 07, 2008, 03:42:00 PM
Rabbit Look at the back legs!
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Post by: horatio1226 on September 07, 2008, 03:46:00 PM
Just got out of my New York Hunter Safety Course and the Department of Environmental Conservation says that there are no mountain lions in NY, so there are no mountain lions in NY.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: hill boy on September 07, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
Dry creek,I thought rabbit also.the lower legs says rabbit,fox or yote.It's hard to tell how tall it is with no reference point.
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Post by: Billy on September 07, 2008, 03:56:00 PM
ok, i don't wanna jump on no band wagons, er anything...but that DOE looks like she had fly in her ear....  :smileystooges:
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Post by: JimB on September 07, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
I wouldn't want to bet if it's a deer or a coyote.What I would do is print out the picture,go back there and put a stick in the ground exactly where it stood.You should be able to calculate height by that.I believe a coyote would be about 16" tall.Even this year's fawns will be considerably taller than that.
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Post by: BOHO on September 07, 2008, 05:33:00 PM
I'll say bobcat cause I like to be different.   :)   If you look real close at the head end you can see a cat head reflection at the base of the big tree.  look close.
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Post by: Izzy on September 07, 2008, 05:43:00 PM
The ghost of a capybara.They be common out your way.
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Post by: Tom Anderson on September 07, 2008, 05:46:00 PM
Deer - backfield in motion...
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Post by: SouthMDShooter on September 07, 2008, 06:16:00 PM
small deer
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Post by: Ray Hammond on September 07, 2008, 06:23:00 PM
capybara.
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Post by: deertraks on September 07, 2008, 06:29:00 PM
A coyote shaking like a dog.
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Post by: doctari on September 07, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
Small deer, if look close you can see the nose and face.
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Post by: Jack Guard on September 07, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
Reeves Muntjac
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Post by: Killdeer on September 07, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
Yup!
One of those!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeves\\'s_Muntjac

Killdeer  :thumbsup:
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Post by: GingivitisKahn on September 07, 2008, 08:13:00 PM
Bambi - it's Bambi!
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 07, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
well looks like deer is the group answer. not sure but i sure  learned a bunch about critters i had never heard of before! i'll have to check the N.Y. reg's on capybara and Reeves's Muntjac season and limits!  :scared:    :knothead:
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Post by: TonyW on September 07, 2008, 09:14:00 PM
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z117/katswal/_Coyote_with_deer_leg.jpg)

Coyote with deer leg - on your pic most of the head is also missing
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Post by: sendero25 on September 07, 2008, 09:15:00 PM
crocodile, no doubt,
I saw "Lake Placid" and they are moving north.
Or maybe the Ohio grassman moved east?
Someone call "monster quest"
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Post by: Guru on September 07, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
That's a coyote...no doubt!  Heard the camera, and is reacting to it...crouching,tucking tail and swinging head at the sound.....I'd almost bet on it, and I'm not a bettin' man....
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 07, 2008, 09:23:00 PM
Curt,
    its exavtly what i thought, yotes first instinct is tuck tail when they crouch. tail looks to long for a deer to me.
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Post by: Woodduck on September 07, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
I'm with Killdeer...Reeves's Muntjac.

Wallmart is selling them, imported from China.  :bigsmyl:  

I refuse to shoot them.  ;)
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Post by: b.glass on September 07, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
It looks like one of those things that some people have as pets. It looks like a "muntjac". but thats not what I've heard them called. A lady we sell hay to has one. I'd have to get a picture of it.
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Post by: SouthMDShooter on September 07, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
I did a little bit with it, and im now changing my answer to coyote haha

  (http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee291/chonaker4/trailcam004.jpg)
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Post by: Guru on September 07, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
The black "cape" marking is a dead give away too...
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Post by: WINDTALKER on September 08, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
Upon closer examination and after watching monsterquest I'm following BMOELLER its a chupacabra I here tell they like hot weather and they're moving up from mexico along with killer bees. damn global warming
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Post by: StickBowManMI on September 08, 2008, 01:33:00 AM
I think that it is a small doe. Based upon the rear legs at least that is all that I could see with these tired old eyes. Besides its 2AM
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Post by: david_lewis93 on September 08, 2008, 03:57:00 AM
Yote in bye bye mode looks kinda like,,yepper.
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Post by: Nakohe on September 08, 2008, 06:24:00 AM
Sure looks like a yote to me.
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Post by: robtattoo on September 08, 2008, 06:37:00 AM
My first instinct was to say a small doe, but I think I'll have to go with coyote, after seeing MDshooter's pic. I'd like to see Vermonster's pic also.

Just as an aside, hve you noticed that if you eat one of the Chinese Muntjuc deer, you're hungry agin, half an hour later?  :D  :D
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Post by: Adirondackman on September 08, 2008, 06:53:00 AM
No doubt about - Woodchucker doing an early snow dance.
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Post by: woodchucker on September 08, 2008, 09:04:00 AM
Sorry John, I'm to old to move that fast,you couldn't get a blurry picture of me if you tried LOL   :rolleyes:
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Post by: blueline on September 08, 2008, 11:30:00 AM
I'm a little late on this but I vote for kangaroo!!!!!
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Post by: Tom Anderson on September 08, 2008, 11:32:00 AM
I think I'm going to change my vote to a 'yote.
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Post by: mrkbsm on September 08, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
I can't tell what's in the foreground, but there's a bigfoot peeking out from behind the tree in the background.   :)
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Post by: b.glass on September 08, 2008, 11:48:00 AM
I think I'm changing my vote to yote also. The animal I was thinking of has like no tail.
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Post by: Bill Turner on September 08, 2008, 11:55:00 AM
I think it is a whitetail doe.  :banghead:
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 08, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
If you sharpen the picture to give edges that aren't movement blur then fill in the solid shape, this is what you get. The part on the back that folks are thinking is a tail is where the hind leg was at the beginning of the exposure IMO. Could do much better with the original photo. But this is what I get from the small one.

(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/trailcam004b.jpg)
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Post by: robtattoo on September 08, 2008, 12:25:00 PM
Sheep.

:D
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 08, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
I kind of like the Capaberra idea myself.
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Post by: jojotater on September 08, 2008, 05:53:00 PM
Now it's a black bear. Naw, I still think it is a small deer.
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Post by: 702plmo on September 08, 2008, 06:09:00 PM
My first thought was a Yote.   But the legs look a little long.    What was in the picture before and after the photo in question was taken?
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on September 08, 2008, 06:48:00 PM
Looks like a deer shaking off the black flies and skeeters. Shawn
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Post by: MWM on September 08, 2008, 07:36:00 PM
I think it is a pet of a "bigfoot" family.  They keep them around to alert them of danger. It is probably been cross bread to have a good nose and hearing.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 08, 2008, 07:59:00 PM
i can email anyone that would like to see the original, bigger picture as there is more detail.
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Post by: bill langer on September 08, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
No doubt, 3 year old male coyote, 65.5 lbs. split right ear, bad teeth, missing left eye, answers to lucky!
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 08, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
I just e-mailed you back a work up of the mystery critter in the dark Ken.
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Post by: 3blades on September 08, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
That's a little fox. To small to be a coyote. Wishful thinkers...
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Post by: timthefuelman on September 08, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
It looks like the tail is down between the legs. I'll have to go with coyote.
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 08, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
thanks for the help, looks like a deer to me, what do you say?
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Post by: vermonster13 on September 08, 2008, 08:46:00 PM
Wow that second doe is hurting. I think that's her now in the dark pic now that I have the full size. In the small pic it almost looked like a long tail on it, but in the bigger pic you can see the tail is actually a downed tree.
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Post by: Guru on September 08, 2008, 08:46:00 PM
It's a coyote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 08, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
Curt,
    sent ya an email with a bigger picture, see what ya think.
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Post by: Guru on September 08, 2008, 09:12:00 PM
Checked it out, no doubt in my mind,it's a Coyote...the size,outline,tail, and "cape" marking on the shoulder. I'll stick by my first description of the pic......COYOTE   ;)
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Post by: SouthMDShooter on September 08, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
ITS BIGFOOTS DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Tdog on September 08, 2008, 09:23:00 PM
It's a yote. You can tell by it's back legs..Tucker
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Post by: tarponnut on September 08, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
That is an immature skunkape. They walk on all fours until mature and then walk upright and then,of course, take to the trees.
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Post by: woodchucker on September 08, 2008, 09:42:00 PM
I've said all along.....

It's a coyote in "get outa Dodge" mode   :thumbsup:
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Post by: bowmofo on September 08, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
I will agree with curt and say it is Coyote!   :scared:
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 08, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
Chuck,
     check your email, i sent you a better pic.
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Post by: BOFF on September 08, 2008, 10:06:00 PM
I still say a deer. May I have a photo emailed to me please.

Thanks, God Bless, David B.
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Post by: joe skipp on September 09, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
I still say its Woodchucker dancing his legs off...  :rolleyes:    :scared:
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Post by: Killdeer on September 09, 2008, 10:15:00 AM
I got the full size pic...it is not a sheep, but a sheepeater. I think it is a coyote in early to mid shake.

Killdeer  :campfire:
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Post by: Stone Knife on September 09, 2008, 03:50:00 PM
It's Chuck and he's wearing one of his $2 wool  sweaters and he's trying to take the trail cam for his own use   :biglaugh:
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Post by: adkmountainken on September 09, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
looks very scary in similarity!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/adkmountainken/tradgang/boots-1.jpg)
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Post by: Stone Knife on September 09, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
Oh yea he is a clever son of a gun   :knothead:
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Post by: Ru on September 09, 2008, 10:21:00 PM
coyote!
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Post by: Tom L on September 09, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
It,s a coyote eatin a deer.  :saywhat:
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Post by: JimB on September 09, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
I commented before and was hesitant to hazard a guess.Looking at it again,i'm sure it is not a deer.The lower legs are way too short.The hock gland on the inside of the left hock should be white,this time of year.If you look at the hock on the right rear leg,there should be considerably more space between the ankle bone and the tendon,on a deer.On this animal,the ankle bone and tendon have little space between them,like a coyote.I believe,on the left rear,you can see the paw of the coyote.The foot flares out there but there is no hoof.I believe the blur behind the rear leg IS the tail and others have pointed out the black markings etc.
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Post by: BowHuntingFool on September 09, 2008, 10:33:00 PM
If thats a deer, I wonder what I have been killing all these years?   :confused:    
 :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
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Post by: JimB on September 09, 2008, 10:45:00 PM
This is a picture of a mule deer rear leg but the shape is similar to a whitetail.Notice how wide the hock is and that big space between ankle and tendon.Notice also the leg bone lengths.Of course,the hock gland on a mulie is not white like on an early season whitetail. (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/jbrandenburg/DeerLeg005.jpg)