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Title: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Mr.Magoo on September 05, 2008, 11:34:00 AM
Takedown bows where the limbs attach to the "back" of the riser.  What's the benefit of this design (if any)? And who else makes bows of this design?  Thx.
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: heartshoth on September 05, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
magoo

i have 2 kempf qwyk styks and that is my vote...period...i have 2 black widow psr's also and the kempf's rule in my opinion

steve
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Orion on September 05, 2008, 01:37:00 PM
Just a little different design.  Because the throat of the grip is ahead of the butt of the limbs, or nearly so, it's more difficult to unintentionally torque the bow.  On the other hand, for the same reason, all other things being equal, which they usually aren't, the limbs don't bend as far for a given draw length so they store less energy in a force/draw curve, i.e., they're a little less efficient than limbs that are attached at the back of the riser.
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Jedimaster on September 05, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
Point well, stable shooting platform, hard to torque (as mentioned).  Just a good design some folks like and find easier to shoot.  No better than any other forward or deflexed riser IMHO.  I have a PSA but would love to have a Kwyk styk.
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Guru on September 05, 2008, 08:13:00 PM
Kwyk Styk's are where it's at!!!!
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: WidowEater on September 05, 2008, 11:23:00 PM
what Orion said, plus though you can make the bow shorter because you have more working limb with the "shorter draw" so the limb can be drawn further or shortened beyond what would be "normal"
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: rastaman on September 06, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
Never had a Kwik Styk, but i sure love my Habu's...
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on September 06, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
Kwyk Styks Rule !!! IMHO.
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Jedimaster on September 06, 2008, 09:50:00 AM
Randy! You bow snob! LOL, I'd probaby love your Habu's too.  I'd probably love all your bows.  Let's get us a package deal on a couple of Kwyk Styks, I know you can pick the prettiest woods.
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: rastaman on September 06, 2008, 02:32:00 PM
Danny, cut a deal & i will pick the woods!
Magoo...
as far as the Habus go, they are heavier as compared to a standard riser...morrison, a & h, etc. and some people don't like that...
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Keuka on September 06, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
From a structural perspective the "Black Widow Type" is also a stronger design. When the bow is drawn the base of the limb is forced into and braced by the riser. The limb bolt acts as a force pivot point.
On a face mounted limb, the force tends to pivot the limb base away from the riser.
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: joe skipp on September 06, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
Low wrist Kwik Styk...Cocobolo/Bocote riser with Amberboo Static Limbs...

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/scan0016-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: joe skipp on September 06, 2008, 05:00:00 PM
Dymondwood Actionwood in Charcoal Gray, Black glass over Red Elm, low wrist, Static limbs. 2nd pic is the riser...customer wanted a Mikuta thumb rest on his Kwik Styk...Jack did it...

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/P5110005.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/sf1oak/P5110003.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: LazerRay on September 06, 2008, 07:17:00 PM
I like my PSA with the Asbell grip its a smooth bow 58" 54@28, tosses a 590gr arrow 185fps
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on September 08, 2008, 02:32:00 PM
Kwik Styk has my vote fast stable shoots where you look and a true piece of Art
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Bjorn on September 08, 2008, 03:05:00 PM
Seems to me you would need a really long draw to see any benefits of that design. Hand is way too far forward in my mind to get all the juice out of the limbs. JMHO
Title: Re: Black Widow, Habu, Kwik Styk ...
Post by: Clinglish on September 08, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
Keuka ,I dont think that there would be any structural advantage in either design . I think it comes down to personal preference. I have shot both a BW and A Habu and I prefered the Habu but thats just me .