Trad Gang

I was in Ohio this week end for the OSTA state shoot had a great time. Sun we shot the second range. We shot in frount of a guy shooting a DAS. That thing was so loud that you could hear it from one targer back. I have a 15 year old Onida in the barn that aint that loud. And he had limbsavers and all on it. I am sure they are great bows but man! Never heard a bow that loud.

hmmm weird

Could have been several reasons. Since he was shooting target he may have been shooting the minimum weight arrows (I believe 6gpp). That would make for a loud bow. The ones I've had when tuned for hunting and using 9gpp and up have been quiet.

QuoteOriginally posted by vermonster13:
Could have been several reasons. Since he was shooting target he may have been shooting the minimum weight arrows (I believe 6gpp). That would make for a loud bow. The ones I've had when tuned for hunting and using 9gpp and up have been quiet.

You are most likley right.

A lot of things can make a bow quiet or loud.I've got a DAS and shoot 7gpp very quiet with a 29 inch draw.I've also shot enough different bows to know what quiet is.

The DAS is just as good or bad as any other bow.It doesn't have any monopoly on quiet or loud.It just depends on how it is set up.

I've also got a DAS Elite target bow.The way I have it set up it is fairly loud.On that bow I don't care because I've never had foam to jump the string.

Well either the person shooting it was not concerned with the sound or he had not tuned the bow to be quieter.My guess is he was shooting targets and did not care.Some guys don't mind shooting like that.The DAS can be as quiet or quieter than most recurves if that is your goal.jmo

Metal risers reverberate sound whereas wood absorbs it. The old bear Mag risers where noisy in comparison.

I had a DAS and had a custom made padded loop endless,with limbsavers with silencers.I was a pretty quiet bow and a very tunable bow.I'm just a longbow man.

Same as any bow, take care to tune it correctly and it will be quiet.

In answer to the original post, an old college friend used to have a Bear Whitetail II compound I think.  When he shot, it was darn near like a .22 short going off.  He could never lie to me about not getting any shots because even through 80 yds. of timber I could hear every one of his shots.

The guy most probably was shooting an endless loop string. That is what David Souza puts on the DAS bows. I put one on my DAS Master and it was unacceptably loud for hunting--in my opinion. I made a flemish loop string out of D97 and paded the loops with Dacron, now it is as quiet or quieter than any recurve I have shot or been around...and I'm shooting about 7gpp.

Tom L
You may not be aware of the controversy surrounding the DAS.There are many people on the archery forums with bias either for or against DAS,or even metal riser bows in general.Don't be surprised if your observation draws more passionate responses than it would otherwise warrant.

Guess you've never been around someone shooting a low braced bow with light arrows. Any bow set up in such a way will be loud. I've owned a DAS and have friends that use them for their main bow and as mentioned above they can be as quiet of noisy as you want, just like any other bow. We were pig hunting in 100+ degree weather and I was a little jealous of my buddy who's DAS had the foam/carbon limbs because they aren't affected by the heat like normal, pretty glass limbs. The bow has been left strung since he got it and takes some serious abuse. Try leaving a glass bow in your truck all day when it's over a 100 degrees out and see what happens.

I wouldnt even leave a foam cored limb bow in my truck all day long in that kinda heat .

Just need to take the time and any bow can be made acceptably quiet for hunting! Shawn

QuoteOriginally posted by R H Clark:
Tom L
You may not be aware of the controversy surrounding the DAS.There are many people on the archery forums with bias either for or against DAS,or even metal riser bows in general.Don't be surprised if your observation draws more passionate responses than it would otherwise warrant.

I was not. It was a loud bow why I don't know. Never ment to upset anyone.

I thought that the DAS was so fast that they emitted sonic booms.

I think that when a bow is loud the bow needs to be tuned properly...Glenn...

Just a little side note. I'm sure some guys who have this type of bow set up to punch foam, are using very minimal string silencing to eek out each and every FPS they can. These bows don't have to appeal to everyone, but I see no need to bash them. Bows are bows, if you don't like the looks of one type or another, then don't shoot it, but I see no need to bash the guys who enjoy shooting them.

If the bow was loud it was loud, I cant see how that is bashing it. Shooting minmimal weight arrows shouldn't make a bow noisy if it is tuned correctly. The noise could be from the take down bots, you can apply thread seal tape to the bolts and that will quieten them down to buggery. How is the bow tillered, does it need adjustment? I use to import Sky TD bows into Australia and those bows very noisy but when thread seal tape was applied to the bolts they very quiet but I couldn't convince some people. I tend to think that if a bow is excessively loud then something needs to be looked at...Glenn...

Tom L
You didn't upset me at all my friend.I don't think most Tradgangers would have any problem with your observation either.I just wanted you to know you could be poking a hornets nest.

There have already been too many casualties in that war.Lots of folks have either got fighting mad or been banned while either bashing or defending the DAS bow.None of the reasons are worth reiterating.

I would hope we are beyond that sort of thing and can let a bow stand on it's merits alone.

Glenn, I respectfully Disagree. I have seen light/minumal weight arrows being shot and they are louder... Out of Compounds and Traditional bows... If the bow that is shooting these arrows has extra energy that is not being absorbed the shot WILL sound louder.  Let me know if there is something I am missing. I am
ALWAYS up to learning something new...

Hum I have a friend that states that the DAS is the Quietest bow he has shot and this fellow has shot a few I think the set up you heard is wrong or at least 5 or 6 gr a lb I heard some ilf bows last winter that were noisy but they were shooting 5 gr a lb so if your set up is wrong it it will  be loud also endless strings are a little more noisy you can quiet an bow with proper tuneing and arrow weight   :confused:

QuoteOriginally posted by R H Clark:
Tom L
You didn't upset me at all my friend.I don't think most Tradgangers would have any problem with your observation either.I just wanted you to know you could be poking a hornets nest.

There have already been too many casualties in that war.Lots of folks have either got fighting mad or been banned while either bashing or defending the DAS bow.None of the reasons are worth reiterating.

I would hope we are beyond that sort of thing and can let a bow stand on it's merits alone.

R H
I knew you were not up set and I thank you for what you said. I am sure DAS makes a fine bow. This bow just stood out as verry loud. If I had it to do over I would keep it to myself. Some times it is best to make yourself a mental note and leave it there.

Big Ron I do build bows for a living. And you are right extra energy not being absorbed by the arrow does have noise but I have found that a lot of bows are not tillered correctly to start with and I have readjusted tiller on many name brand bows over the years and have found that this alone does quiten a bow down a lot and makes them shoot a lot smoother and quiter.
You don't have to accept a noisy bow just because you are shooting light weight arrows. Tune your bow up, check brace height, try the thread seal tape on TD bolts, asdjust tiller, it's amazing the differance you can make to the way a bow shoots and sounds by correctly tuning it...Glenn...

QuoteOriginally posted by mikecc:
Guess you've never been around someone shooting a low braced bow with light arrows. Any bow set up in such a way will be loud. I've owned a DAS and have friends that use them for their main bow and as mentioned above they can be as quiet of noisy as you want, just like any other bow. We were pig hunting in 100+ degree weather and I was a little jealous of my buddy who's DAS had the foam/carbon limbs because they aren't affected by the heat like normal, pretty glass limbs. The bow has been left strung since he got it and takes some serious abuse. Try leaving a glass bow in your truck all day when it's over a 100 degrees out and see what happens.

Yes I have been around a lot low brased recurves. I have owned and shot more than a I care to remember. My first bow was a recurve in 1971. I have bowhunted for a long time and never heard a bow that loud. I never leave any bow in hot truck. I try to take care of my bows.

I think "ugly" can make a bow real loud, too.
 

ben    ;)

Tom L,

I was at the shoot as well and thought the exact same thing as you. I stood behind him while he shot to qualify for the buckeye shootoff. It was a Daala (sp?) from 3 Rivers. Loudest recurve I have ever been near.

The guy (I dont remember his name) placed in his class, if I remember correctly. I would assume someone who shoots well enough to place knows how to tune a bow, as well.

BP

Brian P.
That may be as quiet as it gets with the speed he wants. It was a good shoot OSTA always does a great job.

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Originally posted by Ben Tiller:
I think "ugly" can make a bow real loud, too.
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