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Title: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Tom Anderson on August 31, 2008, 04:09:00 PM
I have a pre-made Flemish string that is about 1" longer than I need. Can I "unravel" one of the loops and shorten it?
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: aromakr on August 31, 2008, 04:16:00 PM
Tom:
If your familiar with making flemish strings, yes it can be done, but I don't think I'd attempt it if I did not know how to go about it.
But I guess if you knew how to make a flemish string you would not be asking this question.
Bob
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Dano on August 31, 2008, 05:03:00 PM
Maybe this tutorial will help you.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/ragiwarmbear/diy/flemish/flemish.html
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Pat B on August 31, 2008, 05:06:00 PM
You can shorten a Flemish string by twisting it. Be sure you go the correct direction. I don't think you can make up an inch that way though. You can un-ravel one end and re-twist the knot or un-twist it and braid it back to a rat tail instead of a loop. That way you can tie a bowyers knot(timber hitch) and it will make adjustments easier. I always use a bowyers knot on the bottom of all of my strings.      Pat
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Glenn Newell on August 31, 2008, 05:14:00 PM
You can twist the string even though 1" is a lot. If you do twist the string up I always pre-set the string by fixing one loop to something solid and placing something strong for a handle like a heavy screwdriver through the other end and lay into it will all of my weight. This works well and prestretches the string and the string will only need minor adjustments once the bow is braced and as it is being shot it...Glenn...
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: portugeejn on August 31, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
I am not an expert, as I've only been making strings for 1 year, but I have shortened them  by the method you mention, unraveling one loop and re-doing it.  That said, I couldn't get them to "look" as nice as the first time it was made up.  They were functional though, just not as nice looking.  My 2 cents.

RonP
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: fowlarcher on August 31, 2008, 11:26:00 PM
You should be able shorten it 1" by twisting. Have a look at this vid clip. About one minute into it there is a good close-up view of the twist in this string. That is about as much twist as I would want in a string, but no more. If your string (braced out) has less twist than this, you should be good. You might as well try twisting it first. If it doesn't work then re-do one of the loops.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT5dmmTbeo0
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Tom Anderson on September 01, 2008, 07:09:00 AM
I've been able to shorten it by twisting it quite a bit. How "twisty" is too much?
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: CJC on September 01, 2008, 07:42:00 AM
simply twisting the string to gain an inch is entirely to much twist.  while you probably can do it i would advise against it.  get another string or make your own its easy and fun.
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Coop on September 01, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by CJC:
simply twisting the string to gain an inch is entirely to much twist.  while you probably can do it i would advise against it.
I am not arguing, I am just curious to hear your reason's why?

I have been building strings for 8 years so I have tried this before just to see if I could, and had no ill effects. So I am curious.
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Pat B on September 01, 2008, 09:41:00 AM
One reason too much twisting isn't good is because a twisted string stretches more that an untwisted string and it absorbs more of the bows energy. Pat
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: O.L. Adcock on September 01, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
A Flemish string needs at least 1 twist per inch as a minimum and I've set distance records with Flemish strings twisted to 5 or 10 twists per inch. It'll settle in just fine. String stretch has nothing to do with performance....O.L.
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Tom Anderson on September 02, 2008, 08:23:00 AM
Well, I twisted it up in order to get my preferred brace height and counted the number of twists per inch = 3, so I guess it's just fine as it is.
I'm used to shooting endless loop strings with minimal twist and the twisty Flemish just didn't look right to me.
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: Tim Fishell on September 02, 2008, 09:29:00 AM
Yup you will be just fine.  I have shortened 1-2 inches by twisting and never had a problem with it.
Title: Re: Can I shorten a Flemish string?
Post by: trapperDave on September 02, 2008, 11:54:00 AM
ditto