i was looking for a little info on Bear razor heads ( old style ) and wanted to hear from those of you who use them or have used them in the past. i will be using them this year as a couple were gifts from a good friend ( thanks Chuck!! ) and i am trading for a few more. please tell me anything you can about them, tips on how to sharpen, tune to arrows anything at all. i have allways liked them but have never used them as me go to broadhead in the field. please share, thanks,
Ken
Hey Ken, I like them and that's what I'll be using this year too. I put a bit of a chisel point to them with a fine file, sharpen them with a fine file and then use a smooth steel to finish them. sometimes I have used a whet stone too but many times they have been fine with only a file and the steel. I find them easy to sharpen. The first deer I ever killed The arrow broke the neck. I took the point out from the off side and the bleeder blade was intact. I sharpen the bleeders the same way. I put a drop of fingernail polish at the rear of the bleeder blades to stop them from rattling or coming loose at the shot. Be sure if you use the bleeders to seat them in the little groove well. Hope this helps and good hunting!
I forgot to add that I usually coat the edge with a bit of vaseline to discourage rust. I'm shooting mine on carbon express 250 50 gr brass inserts and 100 gr broadhead adapters. They are flying good.
Thanks for the info Pine nut. the four i have now on the arrows are sharp as a razor but the ones i have coming in trade i want to learn to sharpen myself. the are all glue on and will be used on woodies.
Hey Ken, I shot my bear in Quebec this spring with one. actually 3 of us did the first week. BowDoc told me they made something like 3 million of them so they must have been (and still are) a great head. Good luck!
Ken,
The Bear Razorhead is a time tested broadhead.I have used them quite a bit.I like to use them without the bleeder blade,I have shot them and the flight seems to be the same for me.The bleeder was designed to break off.They were 1st available to public in 1956' that is my favorite year and weas dubbed the BUBBLEHEAD because of bullet type ferrule,it was different in 1957' the ferrule was crimped down and made for better penetration than the.I have killed a Bear & Deer with 56' Razorhead.
Good Luck with them.
Tom
Easy to sharpen (both broadhead and bleeder blade). Be careful when you clean the game if bleeder blade used. The bleeder blade is designed to break off if it hits anything hard. Be sure to use chisel point. Excellent head.
I shot many a deer with them. We used to modify them sometimes by epoxying Shick injector blades to the bleeders.
Only reason I stopped was the military base we started to hunt had a rubber band test where the blade had to cut a rubber band stretched between nails just holding it by the nock and pushing the arrow. We found other blades which took less time to sharpen or came sharp out of the box.
Ken...I use them and my last Pronghorn didn't think much of them! Dropped in 60 yards. Alaska bowhunting products has a very small sharpener for @ $22.95 that works superbly to sharpen them. I highly recommend them, without bleeder blades. They fly like darts out of my Black Widows with Carbon express 250 arrows. Good luck with them...You won't be disappointed at the performance! Excellent gift from your friend! Cotton
I have used them and find them to be the easiest head to file sharpen. They do not keep an edge quite as well as some harder metal heads, but they work fine and are real easy to touch up in the field for the next shot. A little mojo to em too, you will make meat.
They fly well,file sharpen easy,and at many garage sales they almost give them away. Many think that because they are old they are no good. Trust me, they are good stuff just like the other guys have said.
Ken, I've been using them since 1965 and will this year too. They are the easiest head out there to sharpen...shaving sharp with a mill file alone. I can e-mail you how I do it tomorrow....it's simple and very effective, and you don't have to buy any kind of sharpener. You need a mill file and a belt 8^).
I just bought several dozen of them on auction so am set for quite a while.
As a point of history, the Bear Razorhead Machine (yes machine) spit out a Bear Razorhead every five seconds. So you can imagine how many were made over the years. Get yourself a copy of the Bear video,
"Rural Route One...Grayling, Michigan." It shows a lot of the manufacturing process at the plant.
That's my most main broadhead; and I use the bleeders.
Used em on pigs, deer, rabbits kudu, impala, warthogs, ... love em ! Gave away my magnus stingers ( another great head ) to my dad. Don't forget the ss 145 broadheads that look like 3rd graders built. I have never been able to get my geenies or my 145s to spin true but they always fly like darts and bring out the blood. Use and accusharp to sharpen, atleast in the firld and easy to carry in the pack. I never have used the fingernail polish but will. Great idea ! Bhill
I'm using them!!!!!(but I guess you already figured that LOL) ;)
I've got my "Adirondack Arrows" ready to go!!!!!
6 "Joe Skipp" cedars with Bear Razorheads
6 cedars with "hex head" blunts
4 "Flu-Flus" tipped with steel blunts (from Brother Drew)
I'm gonna stuff'em all in my back quiver,grab my old Grizzly and head North!!!!! :campfire:
I've used them for as long as I can remember. Really can't add much to what's been said here. Never had one fail except on rocks when I missed and I always use bleeders. Pass-thrus on deer and bear with no exceptions. I would caution you to spin test the heads carefully, especially if you mount them on screw-in adapters. The indentations that lock the bleeders in place can occasionally cause a little mis-alignment. Just reheat and work with it a little. Hope you like them. Grant
I have 4 I'll trade you for something. I love to trade and also help out a fellow tradganger.
Use the Bleeder !!!
thanks for all the advice, man now i am really excited to hunt with these! glad to see i'm with good company.
I too use the Bear "greenie" broadheads. I have used them with and without the bleeder blades. I like'em better with the bleeders. Newer bhs. may have better (harder ?) steel in them but nothing reminds me of my bowhunting past like snapping the bleeder blade in a Bear Razorhead! Enjoy!
Ken I think I still might have some layin' around as well PM me your adress and I see what I can do. I used to shoot the 145's is that OK?
This thread brings back old memories. Just looked through an old box of archery stuff that I haven't looked at in too many years than I care to admit. Found two packages of three, one package only has one left, all with bleeder blades. 125 grs. with the bleeders. Still have the price tag on them, $12.95 for the pack of three. As I'm in a transition year as far as down-sizing in weight, this thread brings back my early years, not having a mentor and trying everything on my own. Think I'll have to give them a sharpen and give them a try again. Thanx for the memories
I've got a few more for ya Brother!!!!!
(Your gonna have to find your own arrows though LOL)
i use em ken and i just use a file to sharpen them then steel em and finish em off on a leather strop man they pop the hair off ya arms no problem. :thumbsup:
Ken,
Been using Bears since 1968, never had reason to try anything else. Although I have supplemented with Bodkins at times.
Have had many spine shots on deer and hogs and have always had complete pass thru with instant drop. In 1982 I shot a 220lb hog in the St. Johns river marsh, The hog was rooting and heading straight towards me.I head shot it with a 70lb recurve at 15yds. The BH passed thru the skull and buried about 4 inches into the neck. Dropped in it's tracks. The BH wasn't even bent!
The Bears are tough and have no problem splitting bone when hit, I've found they fly as tru as field points from all my bows 50-90#'s.
Use them with confidence, there is a reason this BH has been around for so long. It's because they work, and they work well.
Ken, I have some Bear heads that my friend gave to me, my set up was with two blade black diamonds, I substituted a Bear in place of one and they flew beautifully. You wont have any trouble getting them sharp with a file, I took the one I shot into the house hit it with a file and it would shave hair with little effort, I like them.
Ken, I do in fact have four layin' around. One newer Stainless model, 2 greys and 1 original green. All 145 gn screw ins.I'll try to get them out to you today.By the way, I killed 2 deer with Bear Heads when I came back to Trad. Go threw a critter like butter.
Just mailed them out Ken. Enjoy!
use the bleeders. If you need any let me know.
thank you all again. i know many people switch back and forth to different broad heads and new ones are allways coming out. i want to use an old traditional head, learn it well, stay with it and use it for everything, i look forward to taking my first traditional deer with a Bear!
The Truangle S-24 files and various stones do a great job on the Razorhead. If you can get Al Reader to make you one of his "Special Camp Hones" that's even better and more compact. I would say use the bleeders. I touch the bleeders with one of the cheapie tungsten hand sharpeners, then install them carefully. Massive blood trails from a proven design. CKruse