Going to make a sand broadhead pit, masons sand(super fine) is 12.00 ton 160.00 for 8 ton delivered, I can get washed sand for 3.75 aton and 153.00 for 22 ton delivered..I would rather get the 22 ton that way I wouldnt have to build a frame for the sand to be high enough to shoot into, plus it will make a good backstop for my bag targets.. My question is will the washed sand be too rough on arrows? What sand are you guys using that have sand pit targets? Thanks for any help.
Mason sand.The washed concrete sand is very hard on heads and shafts and dosen't compact as well.Being a mason,12 and 22 tons of sand is a lot .I've been using 2 tons in a bin for the past 8 years.
Mason sand would probably be the best. I filled my sandpit with some coarse sand that I mined and screened myself. It eats up broadheads fast! If you build a bin to hold it from spreading, your pit will last almost indefinitely so I would advise doing it right the first time.
Thanks guys can either one of you post a pic of your bin/pit, if I can get by with 2 tons Ill just haul it myself...thanks again.
PLEASE post some pictures guys. I too am very interested in making me a pit :) Bill
I'm afraid a picture of mine isn't worth posting. I used my backhoe to dig a trench about five feet wide and eight feet back into the base of a sidehill (ended up roughly 5 feet deep in the back) and filled it up with sand. The hillside had been the backing for my 3-D targets before, but the soil was clay and dried hard as cement. Hard on arrows!
To make a pit on level ground I would probably set a couple treated wood posts with a wire strung between them at the top to prevent spreading (and to hang targets from) on the open end of the pit. Then stack landscape timbers in the manner of a log house to complete the other three sides. It can be sized any way you want but I would recommend that it be nearly twice as long (deep) as it is high to provide ample room for the sand to be piled up against the back wall.
A less permanent pit could be framed out of 2X4's and particle board etc.
I find most sand to be very hard on broadheads. It does what you think it would do and quickly "sands" down the broadhead until one point gets too thin and then it fails. It does it fairly fast.
I like to use blackdirt. It stops well, when dry the BHs stay clean, and seems much less abrasive.
my $.02
How do you keep the neighbohood cats out of it?
QuoteOriginally posted by Bob G:
How do you keep the neighbohood cats out of it?
Use them as BH targets. :biglaugh:
Why can't you just use a small pile of dirt???? Seems like you're going to a lot of trouble just to have something to shoot BH's into :confused:
Brett
I have been using a pile of shredded hardwood mulch leftover from a landscaping project. This was $20.00 a cubic yard mulch. It does not tear up your broadheads and stops arrows good.
I just dig 2 foot wide or so circles in the ground around my treestand and fill them with sand. Been shooting at the same holes now for ten years with no problems other than every two or three years throwing a little sand in them. I am not too worried about it being hard on broadheads. I usually hit something with them that does them in before sand will bother them...
I guess I could use dirt but when it rains your screwed for 2-3 days while it drys out plus you have to knock dirt out of your broadhead every shot..just heard sand was a good target and cheap.
I've done both the dirt and mulch.IMO mason sand is far better.You can put mothballs in trhe sand to keep the cat out.
I accidently hit new topic instead of "reply". look for mason sand.Sorry :knothead:
A $20 broadhead target from wallmart goes a long way compared to $160 load of sand . Just my 2cents
Wal-Mart doesnt have 20.00 broadhead targets anymore, they are 31.00 now... inflation I guess, shot one up in a week before, I shoot alot.
It's no Taj Mahal, but here's a sand target I built a couple weeks ago. Actually, I have more work to do on it yet. Once I got it to this stage I just had to start shooting into it. :) It works pretty good. It is now messy with things I've thrown in to shoot at. Little plastic balls, clay pigeons, plastic bottles, etc. But, that's what I really like about it. Anyway, my total cost with materials and sand was around $160. I think that's a pretty good investment considering how long it will last. The mason sand cost $40. I used two layers of 23/32" exterior plywood for the back. Dimensions are roughly 4'x3'x6'.
As you can see, I shoot in a residential area and kinda overbuilt it just to be safe. I've also discussed it with my neighbors and they are all okay with it. They've been watching me shoot into my garage for years and wondered when I'd start shooting out back. :) I also DO NOT shoot when anyone or their pets are out. Safety first.
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Good luck with your target.
Nice 'sandbox' Derwood, but I would be inclined to add a 3' panel of hardboard above it and fill that gap to the left too for the odd 'flyers'. Especially as you have several neighbours yard lined up behind there! I know you said it is not finished yet, maybe you plan to do that.
chrisg
Hey Derwood, thanks for the pics...helps alot..Dean
Dean: Last Spring I got a couple of truckloads of wood chips for gardening purposes. We have a small pile of them left and they do a great job as a broadhead target and the heads hardly get dull. A lot cheaper than sand and eventually they can be recycled in the garderns nest spring when we get another load.
great idea Bill... I can get some mulch and do that...
Keep your eyes peeled when your out and about for local tree service or line clearance trimmers in your area. They chip all their brush and need places to dump and most if not all will happily accomadate you with a load of chips. Won't be as "clean" as landscaping mulch but it won't hurt an arrow either.
Chris, that's what I have in mind. The wood behind the target is for the roof. I'm making it hinged so that it will swing up and lock in place for added protection. But you are absolutely right, I need to do something about that gap on the left.
Maybe I can hinge some side flaps on this thing and turn it into some kind of a Transformer toy. One minute it's an innocent looking yard bin, the next a nifty sand target able to stop thousands of arrows. LOL...
I also need to pretty it up a bit so it isn't such an eyesore. I'm just happy that my wife shoots too. She's only shot into it a few times, but loves it.
Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it.
Our local Road Commission keeps a pile of wood chips available. All we have to do is haul them. Guess with gas prices what they are, it's not a free target backstop, but pretty close.
be carefull diggin around in piles of wood chips....there arent many porta-pottys on tree job sites if you know what i mean....its embarrassing when you go drop of a load of chips for a customer to see a white tissues rolling out on there driveway! lol
Good idea on the lid. 'Transformer target tank'!Nah, paint it nice muted landscape colours and stick a touristy blow up pic of the rocky mountains on the inside of the lid! I shoot against a twelve foot wall about twenty foot long, my arrows go nowhere except to the repair bench if I miss. LOL :biglaugh:
chrisg
Sand makes a fine secondary backstop, but is murder on broadheads and shafts with repeated shooting. Stick a foam target, shot out hind end of a 3-D target, or even a straw bale in front of the arrows as your primary.
Also don't shoot at the sand in winter. Moisture turns it into a block of ice, which treats your arrows accordingly.