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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: snag on August 21, 2008, 04:15:00 PM
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So I bought some of compressed shafts. They are 720+ grains, 85-90# spine and pretty straight. My dilemma is that they are 9/32" shafts! I assumed they would be a standard diameter for wood shafts, like 11/32". In order to get these to tune how am I going to get a tip or broadhead that will fit this diameter? And what kind of tip weight are we looking at for these? 160, 175, 190, 200 gr. tips...? I'll be shooting these out of a 55#@28" cut to center recurve. I have 85-90# POC that I can tune with 160gr. tips.
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Sent ya a PM. The shafts are 9/32 on the point end and very dense on the point end as well. Trim them from the nock end if you trim them.
Danny
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Thanks Danny. I was hoping you'd read this!
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I have some recent experience shooting 700+ gr heads out of a mid 50# bow. I hope all your shots are under 20 yards and preferably downhill. LOL On the plus side, your bow will be VERY quiet. :)
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Even in a forgewood, that's pretty heavy spine and weight for a 9/32 shaft. Regardless, a short while ago, Joe St. Charles was selling some head shrinkers on the auction site. Those are aluminum ferruled outserts that fit a 9/32 shaft which in turn accept a 11/32 broadhead. Might get in touch with Joe to see if he has any more.
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Any glue on 11/32 bh will work just fine. I think a Woodsman would make a mean hunting arrow.
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Bill: I agree that one can glue on any 11/32 head and it will work. However, because of the thin shaft diameter, the taper isn't as long as it would be on a larger shaft. This probably affects strength a little. Also, there will be a noticeable gap between the shaft and the inside of the broadhead ferrule. Mostly cosmetic, but I don't like looking at it. Depending on how one carries his arrows, this area could also collect water under rainy conditions and potentially begin to work into the wood at the top of the taper if the arrow isn't sealed real well.
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Snag , you need to find some of the old Sweetland head shrinkers , Bill made these for just this reason , they adapt the smaller shaft to the broadhead ferrule and are made from aluminum.
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Mount the broadheads and then fill the gap with epoxy. Joseph
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always cut the knoc end of forgewoods rather then the tip end.If you cut taperd Sweetlands from the tip this will remove lots of arrow weight,the knoc end is not compressed as is the tip end..Headshrinker conical aluminum bushings for adapting Razorhead or any 11/32 ferrules to shafts under 5/16 diameter.Extends shaft 1/2" for extra broadhead clearance.....out of production now but the Bear Archery order number was D-99 1.00 a dozen.I have no spairs right now myself or I would be happy to send you some.But as mentioned above little StCharles sells them on some auction sight for like 10 bucks a dozen..hope this helps...they add around 15 grains weight to the broadhead as well...bowdoc (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii175/bowdocsarchery/hs001-1.jpg)
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I FOUND SOME HEADSHRINKERS!!!! Man these shafts are HARD! I tapered one shaft to bareshaft...they like rock! They bareshafted great with 160gr tips, cut to 29.5".
Thanks for help guys!
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Snag no joke,I lend my buddy my taper tool.About a week later he calls and says man that things a piece of junk.He said it would not taper his arrows.I told him to come on over and we'll see.He shows up with Sweetland forgewoods he purchased used.It took him two blades and about 30 minutes to taper the darn things,and they were still not quite really round.The best set up for tapering the Bill's is the little arrow sander disk setup ? I'am not certin of the brand name but they do a great job on tapering the Billy's...you gotta love those Sweetlends huh? There the best wood arrow ever built for my money.I got 4 in my quiver all set up and ready for sept.1st..enjoy...bowdoc
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Howdy Don! You said it all. They are something. I have to get some made up so I can get to shooting them to see what tradgetory is like with them.
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Yes they do drop off a bit quicker.I believe the extra weight forward does slow them down just a little (with my bow draw weight anyhow) I try to keep my shots under 25 yards and they work well at that range.Wow if they make contact with a critter along that 25 or so yards...well you know the rest,all smiles after that.bowdoc
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David,
All I shoot are Forgewoods, either Sweetlands or Alaskan, mine are 75-80 with 145 gr heads out of my 60+# bows.about 850gr, I shoot out to 40 yards in practice and do not notice much drop, course my inner computer has made any adjustments necessary with my sight picture cause I have been shooting heavy arrows so long.
Yep, every single animal I have shot with them has been a passthru. We shall see how they do on African animals in two years.
Danny
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It seems like once a year somebody is talking about buying the equipment to start reproducing theese shafts, has anyone heard anything about that lately? Thanks Greg
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At one time I had 12 doz. of the Alaskans now only six doz. in all my shooting with them I just threw on a grizzly and went hunting never a problem. I've only broken the head of one arrow and that was on a parked car in a field. had to retaper and am still shooting the arrow. Don't worry they will work fine.
Bill
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A parked cAR! Bill? :scared: :biglaugh: