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Title: I think I'm gonna be sick ....
Post by: Oregon Bill on August 19, 2008, 12:53:00 PM
Took my Ancient Spirits Sequoia takedown out to shoot this morning with some new arras. First shot, I think my glove somehow caught the knock, which is a loose fit on my string, and basically resulted in a dry fire. I gave the bow a quick exam, and no harm done, it seemed.
Four arrows later, it blew up on me. This was the nicest bow I ever owned, not only gorgeous to look at, but as sweet to shoot.   (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/BillOregon/IMG_0636.jpg)
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Post by: Dave Bowers on August 19, 2008, 12:56:00 PM
Ohhh man thats terrible   :(
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Post by: Chris Lantz on August 19, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
That's horrible but at least you weren't seriously injured. Do you think you can salvage the limbs and get a new riser?
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Post by: Son of Texas on August 19, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
Sorry to here that, were you ok?
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Post by: deertraks on August 19, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
:eek:  Man, that hurts just to look at it. I can see why you feel sick. That was a beautiful bow.
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Post by: Frenchymanny on August 19, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
:(    :banghead:  

Sorry to hear that, this is really too bad!

F-Manny
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Post by: Frenchymanny on August 19, 2008, 01:15:00 PM
Looking to the picture again, is the second limb salvageable?

F-Manny
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Post by: deermaster1 on August 19, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
i feel sick just thinking about how you must feel sick.  i have dry fired a compound bow, and when checking it for damage, dry fired it again!  terrible things happen and i feel for ya!
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Post by: Oregon Bill on August 19, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
I think one limb is salvageable, but I'm guessing it would cost close to what a new bow would go for to save it. I will contact JD Emerson about it. Fortunately, I escaped injury on this one, unlike the time a white oak board bow that I made let go on me. It took a while for the bleeding to stop on that one ...
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Post by: Widowbender on August 19, 2008, 01:32:00 PM
Sorry to hear about your bow, but Glad you weren't hurt...

David
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Post by: joekeith on August 19, 2008, 02:14:00 PM
:scared:   What a bummer......feel for ya man.
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Post by: Featherbuster on August 19, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
i am a little queezy
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Post by: Tom Anderson on August 19, 2008, 02:48:00 PM
I've had dry-fires on many of my bows in the past and none of them resulted in that kind of damage - is this kind of damage typical?
Gosh, that is a beautiful bow, too....
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Post by: hormoan on August 19, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/GUNSMITHAMMO/Smileys/no.gif)
Make a grown man
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/GUNSMITHAMMO/Smileys/02010611.gif)

Glad your OK, what a bummer.
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Post by: Chortdraw on August 19, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
Sorry for your loss. It hurts to loose a good bow. Glad to here you were not injured.  :scared:  

Chort
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Post by: upatree on August 19, 2008, 03:37:00 PM
That just sucks.  I am glad you are o.k.  She sure was a pretty gal and it's terrible she had to go that way.
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Post by: TradPaul on August 19, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
Get ahold of Timthefuelman on here, he's got a few of his bows. He may be able to get you in touch with the bowyer as i believe they shot together at ETAR. From what i understand he may be able to help you out and maybe even send you a replacement until he's done, he's pretty cool like that. Tell Tim i told you to talk to him. Sorry about that man......


P.
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Post by: Ian johnson on August 19, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
do you still have a warranty on the bow?, if not, still give him a call and see what kind of a deal he can make ya for another one, I had a longbow that did not even have a warranty on it(small time bowyer)and snapped on me at full draw, when I told him what happened, he made me a new one for a third the original cost
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Post by: frassettor on August 19, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
OUCH! Sorry  :scared:    :scared:    :scared:    :scared:
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Post by: Froggy on August 19, 2008, 06:15:00 PM
Sorry, what a beauty. Gotta go now and take a swig of Pepto Bismol..... Good Luck.
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Post by: SouthMDShooter on August 19, 2008, 08:51:00 PM
Oh man glad your not hurt. Makes me wanna get sick
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Post by: SoNevada Archer on August 19, 2008, 11:37:00 PM
That sux dude...sorry for your loss!
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Post by: Oregon Bill on August 20, 2008, 02:41:00 AM
Good news is that JD Emerson of Ancient Spirits said to send him the bow pronto, and he will tell me whether it can be saved. Sure hope it can, as it was such a lovely bow to look at and shoot.
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Post by: Dillon on August 20, 2008, 04:05:00 AM
Hey good thing it was not a better bow
but it is better of a bow than iv ever even touched so yea that sucks
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Post by: Dave Thaxton on August 20, 2008, 07:35:00 AM
That does suck.Glad you are OK
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Post by: Coop on August 20, 2008, 08:32:00 AM
That's a bummer. Looked like a nice bow.
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Post by: trapperDave on August 20, 2008, 09:15:00 AM
OUCH
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Post by: NightHawk on August 20, 2008, 12:52:00 PM
Guess I'm a little confused as to why the riser would break before the limbs? It seems that the limbs would break at the fade outs before any damage occured to the riser. Was the riser laminated?
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Post by: Blackhawk on August 20, 2008, 01:42:00 PM
sooo sorry...hope you get it taken care of.  :confused:    ;)
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Post by: Bill Turner on August 20, 2008, 02:17:00 PM
That ain't good. Glad you were not injured to boot. That is why I have several bows ready to hunt. I'll be sure to show your pictures to my wife and talk to her about how awful it would be to be in that situation, just before hunting season, without a backup bow ready to go. Can't ever have to many gooduns.  :jumper:
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Post by: Lefty on August 20, 2008, 06:24:00 PM
Hope you get it taken care of and glad you were not injured.  If it was a new bow, hopefully you can get it replaced or repaired.  A well made bow should be able to withstand a dry fire, although not a steady diet of them.  Good luck!
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Post by: brackshooter on August 20, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
Oregon Bill-
Dont know if you planned on hunting the season here in oregon (opens in 10 days), but if you are without a bow, let me know, I may have one you can use.  Sorry about your bow.
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Post by: buckeyebowhunter on August 21, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
Oregon Bill-
Keep us updated on your bow as to whether or not it can be saved. I know a few guys who also own ancient spirits bows, and a former bowyer of ancient spirits is making me a recurve right now.
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Post by: Oregon Bill on August 21, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
Brackshooter: That's a very kind offer, but JD has the bow in hand and says the limbs are salvageable. He's working on a riser for me as we speak.
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Post by: buckeyebowhunter on August 21, 2008, 07:40:00 PM
Bill is JD gonna charge you for the riser if so I wouldnt pay more than half price, cuz iv known guys who have dry fired by accident and thier bow was fine, your riser wood could have had a weak spot. Just my 2 cents.  ;)
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Post by: heydeerman on August 21, 2008, 08:02:00 PM
Bows are made of wood. Wood can break. A dry fire can severely damage a bow. Most times the damage is unseen and will show up later. All bowyers who have a warrantee will not cover a dryfire. There is no way for a bowyer to know what is in the wood he is using so there could have been a weak spot. In fact all bows have a weak spot and if you are brave enough to dry fire (on purpose) you will find it. buckeybowhunter your comment struck a nerve in me. JD doesnt owe him anything.(Oregon Bill dont mistake this for no sympathy man. I have had 2 bows blow up. One I dryfired the other just blew up) I would not be surprised if JD cuts him a deal of some kind. If it was me I'd be glad to pay full price for a new riser to get my bow back.
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Post by: redant 60/65 on August 21, 2008, 08:24:00 PM
I'm with heydeerman,almost always dry fires damage the the limbs or the limb tips.I think it was in the wood of the riser,and I'll bet the bowyer will replace it free of charge. My 2 cents.  :banghead:
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Post by: Hornseeker on August 22, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
Yep...the limbs look salvageable...obviously not the riser! :0(

and yeah, JD owes him nothing. Dry fires can happen...and...you can get away with them sometimes, but in the long run, a wood bow will NOT benefit from a dry fire! :0) I have had several drys on one of my bows, all went well... Then the other day a dry resulted in the riser coming apart... sucked...but didn't surprise me.

E
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Post by: Oregon Bill on August 22, 2008, 01:30:00 PM
Guys: JD is giving me a hell of a price on a new riser of walnut and curly maple, and is getting it out to me ASAP before he leaves for an elk hunt next week. I can't ask for more. I screwed up on the dry fire, and I am not the original owner of the bow. It is possible it had been dry-fired before.
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Post by: Teacher_of_the_Arcane on August 22, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
Man....a moment of silence, and a day of mourning.  :(
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Post by: TNstickn on August 22, 2008, 07:07:00 PM
With you on that Teach....Glad you didnt get hurt Oregon Bill. My son has a batch of carbons the nocks keep poppin off... Im goat tuffin on before he shoots another shot!!!!
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Post by: The Baron on August 22, 2008, 08:00:00 PM
I'm glad to hear you were not injured.  And man, I'm really sorry to hear your frustrating story.    :(     I believe everything happens for a reason, so maybe the bow you find to replace this one will be even better and/or exceptionally lucky for you.  Hard to think about that just yet though, I know.
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Post by: philil on August 22, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
So sorry!

If the limbs are still intact you could make a new riser yourself!

Thats what I did with some A.S. Limbs...worked out real good!
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Post by: WildmanSC on August 22, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
Rather than "....a moment of silence, and a day of mourning" I say Praise the Lord.  JD is getting the bow back to Oregon Bill in near record time and at a very good price.  Let's not mourn, let's praise!  Amen!!??

Bill
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Post by: StickBowManMI on August 22, 2008, 09:05:00 PM
Hope that you are ok! My wife and I had 2 brand new Navajo Scouts break at the handle within 2 weeks of each other with no dry fires. Sometimes it just happens. Roy Hall said that he had a bad batch of wood and he made us 2 new ones within a month.
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Post by: buckeyebowhunter on August 23, 2008, 02:04:00 AM
Bill glad your gettin your bow fixed man I figured JD would give you a good price for the new riser, and didnt mean to strike your nerve heydeerman, I was just sayin its not always the owner of the bows fault when it breaks, usually is but not always.
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Post by: Oregon Bill on August 29, 2008, 02:21:00 AM
Guys: JD tweaked the limbs, built me a new riser and got it all in the mail Express before he left for elk season. I gotta say I can't recall this kind of customer service, ever. I'll post a photo of my nice new riser ASAP. For those whose seasons open this weekend, good luck guys and gals.
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Post by: mikecc on August 29, 2008, 04:02:00 PM
Oregon Bill, Be sure to take care of the bowyer on this deal. He went way above and beyond what he was required to do. The dry fire was your fault and he took the time to make it right in record time. It wouldn't hurt to throw a little extra cash his way to say thanks for helping you out. I just know what a big pain in the a#$ it is to make a bow and just want to see JD taken care of on this deal. I've read posts about him where he was really drug through the mud on here and the other site. Mike
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Post by: highpoint forge on August 30, 2008, 01:11:00 AM
That sucks cojones! Send 'em the limbs and they'll make you another riser no prob.....maybe call first and tell them what happened. Price might come down too. Bob Lee did that for me.
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Post by: Stonedog on August 30, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
Oh man......