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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Zenzele on February 22, 2007, 09:02:00 PM
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Hey gang! First things...what a great site!! Spend most of the time reading!! :thumbsup:
Hunting Africa was really cool, looking at visiting the US Next year!! However between now and then I'd like to hunt closer to home... Do you guys have any tips on where in europe to go and how much to pay? Spain, Latvia, France???? Any contacts would be appretiated! :notworthy:
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Call Michael, he was setting up hunts in Europe as of last summer. I am sure he could point you in the right direction.
http://www.going-hunting.com/index.htm
John III
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Countries open to bowhunting includes: France, Spain, Estonia, and a few other Eastern countries. I probably forgot a few. I think a few Scandies are open too, maybe all three?
There exists a website that has contacts for various countries. Check on this site but it may have been on the bowsite?
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http://www.europeanbowhunting.org/
Try this link.
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Denmark, Finland, France, Spain, Turkey, Hungary
NOT Norway or Sweden, Sweden has had a limited "test" season that was successful, but the authorities are procrastinating.
Norway, we are struggling (some are hunting anyway, no doubt, in silence), but the large main hunting organisation is basically against bowhunting.
Turkey and Hungary is "come and shoot"
Fin, France, Spain require IBEP certification
Denmark has their own #¤!"%!@$£ rigorous shooting test.. But i am getting there. Pisses me off living 2 1/2h boatride away.
Dennis Kamstra of Bowhunting Safari Consultants has a setup in Turkey, he claims it is real good. Had pics of some insanely large hogs..
Zenzele, if you plan on going somewhere in Europe and want company, let me know. I have been wanting to go but never gotten on with it.
And, if you want to gunhunt, i can probably help you, here in Norw.
K
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Thanks, definitly check that out!! what about prices, have heard that you pay by the kilo. is that true could end up being quite expensive!! Again thanks for the info any other tips??
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Z, i sent you a PM.
K
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Price? Extremely expensive! At least in Spain. Quite a lot American people come to Spain every year. Their first goal is Spanish Ibex. Wild boar is also possible but it is a time consuming task for being as a tourist. I think for foreing people probably is not compulsery to have IBEP certification. I you surf in internet you will find some outfitter over here, that´s for sure!
It is a pity no being able to hunt in UK. I was last fall on hunting (muntjacs and roe deer) and found great conditions for bow hunting.
Kind regards
Stag
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I made an embarrassing statement yesterday: "I think a few Scandies are open too, maybe all three?
FOUR, duhhh, dum American! LOL.
I think maybe Turkish hogs are by cm of tusk??
What is confusing when you look at outfitter pages is if pricing is a "buisiness" price or a legal "Government" price.
Does anyone know if it is possible (legal) to do "Chasse Libre" in either Turkey or Hungary or any other European country for that matter?
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Steve,
no you are right. Finland does not count as Scandinavia, so it is 3, Sweden, Norway, Denmark.
And Turkish hogs are by cm of tusk, according to Kamstra. The small ones are cheap, but if you take a big one youre ruined...
What is "chasse libre"?
K
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"Chasse Libre" mean hunting by your own arrangements and on your own rather than an outfitted and guided affair.
Legal in many French/former French colonies. The French did good on that concept!
So, I am curious, may I just "show up", secure a permit and make my own arrangemmets to hunt in any countries? I am most interested in eastern Europe (Romania, Bulgaria, etc.), Turkey, Estonia (I have been to Latvia but bowhunting is not allowed).
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Is any bowhunting allowed in Italy? We may do our "25th" over there in a few short years...
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Go to the link I provided above and select "Members".
Then select the country of choice, some will have a link and some will not. Italy does and indicates bowhunting is legal but it appears to be a bit limited.
France is one of the best choices to bowhunt Europe from what I know and have been told.
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Thanks, Steve buddy. 22 days left?
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22 days and 22 cents.
Papa Kevie please send money!!!
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Chasse libre means free hunt(in the general meaning of unregulated, unorganized)
F-Manny
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Anybody from France with some hunting info?? Thats the only place I have'nt heard from??
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In Finland you need only a normal hunting license
to hunt with a bow.Nothing more.Hunting license is about 25€/year and the land owners permission
(State or Private).For one Day small game is cost about 5-15€.
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Nordjagd,
Im in Finland at the moement, Im originally from York/England,
How do i find where the State land is in Finland, as i dont now any Landowners,
Thanks
James,
Ps, there are not many Bowhuntes, or Archers in Finland, and even harder to meet, do you have any ideas for tracking some down, :)
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in France, the hunting period begins on the first june for the male roe deer; and in september for the other big games.
The hunting period stops at the february end's ...there is no date differences' between the bow and the rifle seasons...
hunting requires an hunting license (the foreign ones are allowed but must to recieve an agrement) that you can validate (by paying some contributions) for different periods and region (expensive but not too much).
After you can go either in an estate forest with estate agents and buy a tag (very expensive)and try to kill our french deers and mountain sheeps; on private lands with private guides and buy a tag (expensive) or to be invited by a communal hunting society member's (very inexpensive, but few walk and stalk opportunities)...
hunting in my country is not perticulerly for the rich people but costs however some money...as everywhere...my annual hunting budget for licenses is around 1100 usd for hunting in 3 different communal hunting societies with 2 personal roe deers tags..
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If Steve H hunts a European country, will any other Americans be allowed to visit afterward? LOL - that could be a problem. Just kidding Steve.
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if he likes good wine, cheese and food, he is welcome in France!
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foudarme, I was just there in england for the rugby cup, glad RSA won
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come on south africa! about time the cup came back to green and gold soil!
anyone know what bowhunting opertunities there are in bulgaria, its pretty cheap to get there from the uk but not sure where you can hunt?
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http://www.europeanbowhunting.org/members.html
tradtusker look at the map , bowhunting is not legal in Bulgaria
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I don't know if Steve likes good wine food and cheese, but I know he likes FREE wine food and cheese...
I know what you mean, Shoe Man.
Couldn't resist that one Stevie, HA!
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Matt, no you weren't! Kevin, I don't think we ever came across any wine, but he did eat the FREE "cheese" at the nomads tent and he snuffed the FREE snuff to! He is popular in China though, of course they thought he was the lead singer of ANTHRAX and they did infect him with something, hmmm!
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Originally posted by Kevin Bahr:
I don't know if Steve likes good wine food and cheese, but I know he likes FREE wine food and cheese...
I know what you mean, Shoe Man.
Couldn't resist that one Stevie, HA!
:biglaugh:
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I thought Iceland was a Scandie country too...
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Geez, what's the chance that I just happen to peek in here and three of my aledged "buddies" are in here slandering my good name! LOL
I think Shoe did score me an invite to France thou! I do like wine and cheese!
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Oh THERE you are, hehehe...
The next exotic foreign locale I'll see you in is Pittsburgh, with RicMic, Shoe Man and everyone else, I hope!
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France is good, they already don't like us!
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French law has been recently revised about the non-resident bowhunters ;)
Now it’s possible to hunt without the French bowhunting agreement (less than nine days)
But you need your own bowhunting license :readit:
If you want ask for information :
http://www.ffca.net/FFCAsite/front/news.php
« Dans le cas des non résidents :
- si le chasseur ne chasse que quelques jours (c’est à dire qu’il ne prend qu’une validation temporaire de maximum neuf jours), il peut directement pratiquer à l’arc sans justifier de sa participation à cette Journée de Formation Obligatoire.
- si le chasseur chasse régulièrement dans notre pays (c’est à dire qu’il prend une validation annuelle), il doit (et peut maintenant) suivre la Journée de Formation Obligatoire.
Rappel : pour obtenir une validation (temporaire ou annuelle), le non résident doit, quel que soit le mode de chasse qu’il pratique, présenter un permis de chasser délivré par l'autorité de son pays »
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I hunted in spain around Medina Sedona with my widow and my wife for red stag with one of the magor outfitters in europe / spain. Beautiful Mountains, long hikes, and tons of stag, mouphlon (bad spelling will be my downfall), and fallow deer that were all as sharp as any whittail in the states. Beware! First, they all say that they bowhunt, but mostly they have only seen bows. I was their first. Secondly, alot like other outfitters that hunt with primarily rifles, they are set up to hunt for rifles only. My outfitter did set up a brush blind at my request but treestand or wind appropriate setup would have been nice. Third, these trips are very expensive and to the best of my recollection set up only on private land and run by private outfitters. I spent twice as much on my spnish stag hunt as I did on my africa hunt where I took 3 animals versus 1. After my africa trip that was on a bow only ranch, I can never go back. I'm not against rifles, I just hate having one handed to me each time I reached for my silly stick contraption. (Thats how I felt in spain and canada.) I never found a bow only operation in Europe but if there is one, sign me up ! Now the guides I hunted with are tough, they know their game, they treated you well, and were excellent stalkers within 50 yards (perfect for rifles) but thats where the problem appeared. After 50 yards, my guide, the game keeper, and I would attempt to clear the distanceto 15 - 20 yards. I was never allowed to pay indian by myself. Like the dumb kid who kept stubbing his toe, all three of of us would venture on and get busted almost everytime. I'm not any super hunter, but let me snap the twig of slide on the pebble that spooks the animal. However Europe, specifically Spain and France have beautiful countryside with some amazing animals and they are great places to take the wife and make a combo hunt / girl vacation trip. Just be prepared to spend alot, take long shots (20 25 yards are long hunting shots for me), and pal to hunt with rifle guides. Bhill
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I grew up in Finland and we do consider ourselves part of Scandinavia culturally and geographically but not linguistically unless you count the fact that Swedish is one of our two National languages. So is Finland a Scandinavian country? The answer is, it depends on how you are referring to it. That aside here are the animals you can hunt in Finland with a bow with a draw weight of 40lbs, also for Roe deer and beaver an additional requirement of a broad head being at least 22mm in diameter is added and for beaver you must have a string like a bow fishing line attached in order to retrieve it:
Ducks == Mallard, Teal, Garganey, Wigeon, Pintail, Shoveler, Pochard, Tufted duck and Goldeneye
Seabirds == Long-tailed duck, Red-breasted merganser and Goosander
Eider, male
Eider, female
Coot
Greylag goose
Bean goose
Canada goose
Woodcock
Black grouse
Hazel grouse
Capercaillie
Willow grouse
Ptarmigan
Partridge
Pheasant
Wood pidgeon
Northern hare,
Brown hare
Red squirrel
European beaver
Canadien beaver
Muskrat
Red fox, Blue fox, Raccoon dog, Badger
American mink, Polecat
Pine marten
Ermine
Roe deer, male
Roe deer, female and calf
As far as where to hunt in Finland that you would have to ask some one else. I have always hunted our land in Pohjois Savo or friends land nearby to ours. We know everyone where we hunt so crossing into a neighbors land is OK. I don't know where the neighbors land ends and where the public lands begin. That would be a question for some one who lives and hunts there year round. I can e-mail and ask my father how to find out that information but it may take him several weeks to get back to me on it. We are from Savo :) computers are not our parents generation's strong suit :)