Anyone have experience with the Woodsman broadhead on big game, moose size?
I'm gonna try for moose this September with my new Tomahawk Diamond SS 70# longbow with Beaman MFX 340's and a 150gr. Woodsman screw in's.
What do ya think? Will this set-up down the beasts.
Steve
Wow, no answer?...
"I'm so ronery, so ronery..."
Any advise would be appreciated, if I get a moose it will be my first trad kill.
Steve
Have a look on the Woodsman / 3Rivers website and you'll find plenty of examples of moose and other big game animals taken by the Woodsman. I've only taken two pigs with them. Will they work on moose? Sure, it's been done more than once. Are they the best for moose in the event of a serious bone encounter? Possibly not. I have a bunch of Woodsman-tipped arrows which I hope to put to good use on feral game here in Australia. So I am definitely not anit-Woodsman or anti-3-blade. I've had some awesome experiences with 3-bladers! But, I must admit to being anti-advertising nonsense, and that I wasn't impressed when I read (or heard) the advertising rot about the Woodsman being the deadliest broadhead in the world, and that no big game animal is safe; because that's such a big statement and it includes elephant, buffalo, hippo and similar which one would be foolish to tackle with a Woodsman. Moose are one of those borderline animals...the Woodsman might or might not work, depending on the circumstances (which can be said of any broadhead, admittedly, though I maintain that on larger game certain heads will be more likely to bring success). So, there's two-bob worth from a fellow in Outback Australia who's never seen a moose, but has taken a few animals that size or bigger. All the best to you, Woodsman or no!
Yeah do a search here and you will see a WW can handle it.
Luck on the moose!
J
I personally would go with the glue on Woodsman and get yourself some steel BH adapters. The screw in Woodsman has an aluminum adapter and ANY aluminum BH adapter is a weak link in your setup. Especially on Moose.
I've broken a few on whitetails and will never use them again...... JUNK.
I've never killed a moose, but your setup sounds good to me.
Moose....two blade. Just my .02
Forgive me for making the observation that the maths (or math, in AmerEnglish) seems quite simple to me in the event of a bone hit: A 2-blade head must split the bone once (that is, in one direction), whereas a 3-blade head must split the bone thrice (that is, in three directions), thus requiring more "oomph!", and hence sapping more "oomph!", in order to get through. Again, I hasten to point out that I do enjoy using both Snuffers and Woodsmans on certain game!
I shot Woodsmans for a number of years. Then the Muzzy Phantom came out and I tried them and love the fact that they are stainless. Then I tried some Razorcaps I had from when they first came out...they are very much like the Woodsman, only in stainless with the varialble ferrule feature. I can't think of one animal I shot with a Razorcap that did not go down in sight. I shot a 600# cow moose last year with one and she went three steps and went down. I am sure the woodsman would have been every bit as effective.
Well send the woodsmans to me if you dont like them i cant say enough good things about them. Ive killed lots of game with them and will continue to use them , Art
I haven't shot moose.........
However, if I were going on your hunt I'd get a Zwickey No Mercy and mount it on a 125 grain steel screw in adapter. Then get it razor sharp which is not difficult. A Stos is more of the same. Penetration is what you want, along with INTEGRITY of the broadhead.
Go to the wensel woodsman web site and check out the Mitten moose under harvests. The head has taken most every type of game successfully, including African, Sandy Karch took big african game with a woodsman and a 47 lb bow. The heads have been probably the best selling head since they came out also, which says way more than anyone can say here. They make ALOT of blood.
I took this moose with a WW. My total arrow weight was 730 gr. Mike
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff289/MittenM/hero/moose2.jpg)
And a really great bull it is, Mike. Congrats.
Mike did you carry that bull out like the 2 deer in Primal Dreams
70# Morrison Cougar Hybrid Longbow - 630 grain Trad Heavy - Wensel Woodsman and a 2000# Bison.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/buffcloseup.jpg)
theres your answer, no theories being thrown around here, pictures of proof, just hit it where your supposed to and make sure its sharp
What ever you choose, get 'em sharp !!!
Good luck on your hunt.
pb
Not to mention that they fly accurately too . . . important for pinpoint shooting:^)
(http://www.brothersofthebow.com/othergame4.jpg)
Hey Terry, what arrow and what type of adaptor did you use for that bison?
Thanks for the info guys. Such a great crowd.
Steve
mysticguido- Well....I carried ~700 pounds of boned-out meat plus cape and antlers....but it took 9 trips. 3 miles is just a little bit further than the deer. Ha! Ha! Lots of fun here on tradgang.
Ah, I can't wait to pack out a moose this fall(i can feel my back hurting already). God willing I'll have a chance of a lifetime on my first trad kill.
Steve
Mike I love the look on your face in that picture....kind of looks like you are thinking "What have I done? Now the work begins!" Sure is a great Moose!
Terry, I thought you'd have a bison hide on for camo...lol
Once again it all comes down to shot placement no matter what you use for a broadhead.
OOHH i can't wait to take my "vacation". I need to start practicing with my broadheads come to think of it. Thumbs up to you all for the advise :thumbsup:
Steve
Arrow Dynamics Trad Heavy with Aquarium tubbing inside....and regular o'l aluminum adaptor.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/Buffy2.JPG)
snag- Yes I never know how I'm going to look in the photos because I'm mostly a solo hunter, and don't realize when the camera will go off. Plus its kind of hard to smile off into the open air with no one there. Ha! In the video I took, I think I said ,"Boy I forgot how big these things are!" I has happy for sure!!
I just like how the WW fly and am very comfortable with them up front. I do use the 100 gr steel adapter though.
The Shiras bull in my avatar fell to a 750 grn laminated birch shaft tipped with a woodsman. The bow was a 67# longbow I built myself.
Happy hunting,
Jason
Where can a guy get some of those arrows? I'm gonna want 8-10 grains of arrow weight for my 76# pull.
Steve
Where did you harvest that Bison? Impressive indeed!
Steve Have you looked into the grizzlystik's from Alaska bowhunting supply, Maby the easton full metal jackets. I really like ash, hickory, and berch for a heavy wood set up.
Super Hunt
Blueline
Steve, Had great luck with the WW in the past year, Eland (1500-1800 lbs. ) kudu, wildebeest, gemsbok, warthog, whitetail, bear and hog. Several shots through the shoulder (eland) and one spine hit. Not one problem! 125gr. woodsman with 125gr. steel
adapter. Flight characteristics are second to none, in my opinion!
A very good choice for moose.
Good Luck,Bill
Well I bought a couple packs of Zwikey No Mercy single bevel RW broadheads to try out. Should be coming in today. Oh my, 4 more weeks till my big hunt :archer: .
Steve
I just ordered a 6 pack of WW today. cant wait till they get here
So far I have no complaints of my WW's. They fly extremely well and penetrate well. They even went all the way in some 2x4's surrounding my target with no damage to the broadhead.
But the WW's are loud, you can actually hear it going through the air which is real cool.
Steve
I bought a dozen WW's a month ago and i plan on using them this year.
I've used Snuffers for years with good success i don't see why the WW's would be any differant.
I sure hope you were aiming for the 2x4's!
if you use the WW's be sure to pyramid the tip they recommend it on the WW site and the tip shouldnt curl then...that is if you havent already pyramidded it
That's a matter of personal choice, I LIKE the needle tip. By the time it curls, it's too late!
No I wasn't aiming for the 2x4 :banghead: , I'm still getting my form down. And I'm left eye dominant cause of eye surgery on my right eye.
What pray-tell is pyramid the tip? I'll take a look at the site.
Steve
i shot three deer with the ww last year and recovered two. both deer died within sight. it is a fast killer. none of the arrows passed through and yes they were sharp. went to the zwickey eskimo this year. see how they do. stick that moose in the ribs- he will die. best meat i've ever eaten by the way. far as the pyramid thing- take a wire cutter and snip the tip of the head off. both of mine curled on those deer i shot.
Yeah, I grew up on the stuff.
I got two 3-pack's of Zwickey No Mercy's coming in also to try, didn't come in today maybe tomorrow.
Was practicing with the WW's today, all I needed to do was give more heel on my bowhand and I was shooting like a pro.
Steve
shot my moose in Newfoundland in '97. with a rifle though. have to be awesome hunting them with trad gear! shot placement is key.