I'm going to make up some woodies here pretty soon.Wondering if anyone has pics of their favorite Natural Barred/Woody combination/capped and crested to give me some ideas...thanks
Heres a pic of my attempt to make my arrows look nostalgic and "traditional"...Arrow is from old Superceder barrel taper, alcohol stain,Watco Teak Oil sealer, natural barred feathers from my few in between turkey kills and oppppppppppssss...auto touch up paint crests......i made this bow 12 years ago and the osage orange has turned to a golden hue...
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c114/swamprooter/oldarrowsswamprooter.jpg)
That's a beauty of a bow and that arrow looks right hansome settin on there!
Thanks Kenny...I'm not sold on my cresting pattern yet...going to do some research and see if I can find cresting patterns of yesteryears.Most of my cresting patterns over last 20 years have been a 1 wide band 2-3 single bands......wish i had a pic of some old pearson or bear arrows or sweatland
Joey, I will post some pictures of a couple of Sweetland's and Glenn St. Charles and some of Chester Stevensons as well. I will also post some of my own creation. I have dial up at home so it would take half the night just for one picture. Check back tomorrow. I LOVE your bow the fine saw cuts in the riser took a ton of time I am sure. and also your fine box calls. Do you sell them? Flint
you got that right both bow and arra are fine looking.
I've got some arrows from the 50s. I'll take some pics and get'um on asap. Joebuck I bought 2 DZ. Super Cedars from Don Stokes. I'm like you I've got to come up with something different for these 2dz. In honor of Dan Quillian.
Thanks Flint....that would be awesome..great men you mentioned..I have an old sweatland arra I'll post a pic of that I used as a tomato stake!!!...it's square now!..
Thanks DB...this old bow has been my favorite...
Dixieshooter...we are on the same page...I wish to heil Ole Dan was alive now to hear what he would have to say about skinny arrows and FOC!!!!!!!!! I may say it for him one day but I'm too close to the source! I just bought 9 dozen from Don. Absolutely the finest wood arrow ever made IMO..Big barrel taper, heavy, straight and recovery pardox next to none. It's amzing how fast these arrow recover compared to alluminun and carbon......but thats another thread I'll hold off on....Yep I have got to honor Ole Dan too......Thank You Don Stokes.....I'm going to run this 800 grain through NM Bull this september and let Hogdancer pack him out....
My pleasure, Joey and Woody. I know you'll put 'em to good use. An elk steak or two would be nice...
I like to keep my arrows simple, but I always crest with some red in it, to attract blood! I read that Ishi's arrows were crested with red rings, and it sounded like a good idea to me. I'm trying photobucket for the first time here.
Oops- forgot to resize.
Not a very good picture, but what I have at the moment. I'll try to do better. Boy Howdy, it takes a long time to mess with pictures with this dial-up connection.
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OK, I know what I did wrong. Blasted newfangled technology!
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Here's some, threadwrapped on ash shafts with snakeskin cresting.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/AKinPA/Arrows/SnakeArrows03a.jpg)
Holy Cow, Beautiful Arrows!!! :eek: :clapper:
Bakes
Joey,
Did you do the checkering on that bow? Man, you do it all!
Steve O...18 lines per inch hand cut!I'm crossed eyed for at least 2 days after I finish checkering.....I owe you the turkey seminar..hadn't forgot..trying to figure out how to put audio.
Adam...my gosh!!!!..very nice...looks like you made great use of the "secondary" feathers.
joebuck, when are you and thomas going to NM. I lucked up and got my Wyoming tag this year. Cant wait to see some pics and the story.
FBuster...we're going sept 19-26 near Datil ,NM.Thomas is going for meat and I'm going for Ivories. I have been on his tail to get in shape to pack my wapiti out.....are you going near Jackson Hole?...Didn't see not one Bighead this weekend near your honeyhole..you shot them all out..!!
The pic of my arrow above was an interesting task. I stained,sanded,stained, sealed (watco teak oil) steel wooled, burnish, crested, split feathers, grinded, fletch and sealed cresting in 3 hours.......arrow removes very smooth from foam target..........I'm liking the Watco..
I swear, I wish I had 1% of the talent the folks here have. Checkering!
Joey, I will thoughroughly enjoy that turkey info when you pass it on! You do know that they say the cow elk have the best Ivories...I'm guessing you were talking about antlers--good luck!
Here's one of mine with testor paint cresting over wipe on stain. I've been playing with self nocks on a few others lately and really like the way that sets them off. Adam - your arrows are gorgeous!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/CopyIMG_0309.jpg)
here are some i made (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh305/jeffburg/CIMG2302.jpg) (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh305/jeffburg/CIMG2303.jpg)[/IMG]
On my next arrows, i will again crest over wipe on stain and sealer but I will lay a clear coat base before and under the cresting to achieve tighter and crisper cresting lines.....I was bummed out to learn they have changed the auto tester bottles up.....i love the ole fingernail polish style bottles......
Joey, I tried posting pictures from photobucket but could not get it to work. Send me your e-mail addy. Flint
Great looking arrows guys!! :notworthy: :notworthy:
joebuck, i will be southeast of Jackson Hole, i will be out there from sept 13-23.
I was out near burkes tuesday, on the farm they call the new ground, and saw about 30 hogs out in the field headed back towards ward lake. I am waiting for my new grizzlys to come in so i can try them out on some pigs.
One more time. (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/Kifaru_2006/SweetlandArrows.jpg)
Above post. Top 2 are Sweetland Arrows. Followed by Glen St. Charles arrows, one built by his daughter Suzanne. The 5th arrow I forgot who built it and the 2 bottom ones are Chet Stephensen arrows. Enjoy Flint
Some of my cresting. (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/Kifaru_2006/Orangeandwhitecresting.jpg) (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/Kifaru_2006/MaddysArrows.jpg) (http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n302/Kifaru_2006/BumbleBeeArrrows.jpg)
Absolutely beautiful arrows everyone!
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Hey guys could someone explain the process of using the Watco sealer? Do you apply it over the cresting? What kind of glue do you use to glue the feathers on after the shaft has been "oiled"? Etc., is there a certain brand or product (is it called a sealer or oil). Thanks alot for any help.
Can someone also explain a different way to seal arrows other than with the dip tank and gasket lacquer? I have always used the gasket method and really have gotten away from making woodies, a buddy needs some arrows and i really dont want to fidget with the gaskets and the thick lacquer. Are there any other methods.
Practically any good wood finish will work with arrows. I like a penetrating sealer like Minwax polyurethane, with a top coat of something else. The Minwax penetrating sealer leaves so little residue on the surface that you can top coat with about anything. Polyurethane makes a good top coat, but it's really hard to pull out of 3D targets. A lacquer is better for that. Good fletching glues are Duco, Fletchtite, and superglue. Some work better with some finishes than others. I use superglue, the thicker kind like Loctite, more than anything else.
PS- I use nothing but Ferrul-tite (sp?)hot melt for points.
Not as perty as some more utalitarian.
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I stain with alcohol stain ( leather stain).Then sand lightly 220 after an hour drying at most. Then I rub Watco Teak Oil ( Home Depot) ( some use Watco Danish Oil) over entire shaft. Let dry 3-4 hours then I buff with OOOO steel wool to get left over residue off. Note here..the shaft has absorbed all the sealer it will absorb..No need to recoat...Then I buy at Auto Zone testor paint pens with the brush caps. I crest with silver, black and white. After I crest I seal cresting with the "Clear Coat" color also sold as a tester at Auto Zone......then I fletch with DUCO cement ( Walmart). All of this can be bought locally hope this helps Adaconda and Dustin
Here are a couple i made, no cresting though...i like a plain arrow.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/CIMG0258.jpg)
John
Jack, its the eye of the beholder. I love this arrows. I've got to come and see those some time.
Nice work everyone!
Adam Those are cool arrows I wish I had that kind of ability. You go Brother!!
Here's a better picture of some of mine. The one on the left was from a set I made for turkey hunting- no bright colors. Stained with Minwax penetrating sealer, coated with gasket lacquer, crested with sharpie pens, cresting coated with spray-on lacquer to keep it from rubbing off. Fletching is wild turkey and wild goose. The other three are done the same way except for the stain, fletched with wild turkey.
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After I have mine stained and crested I start wiping on coats of tru-oil.After every 3rd coat I lightly go over the shaft with 4/0 steel wool.
A little trick you can do after you stain the shaft but before you crest it is to burnish the shaft.Take a brown paper bag and fold it into a square that you can work with now wrap that around the shaft and work it up and down until the friction heats up your hand.What you have done now has helped to close the cells or grain in the wood and the finish will almost have a soft sheen to it.Now you can apply your seal coats which will build up quicker because of the burnishing.I usually apply a couple sets of three until the finish is as smooth as glass.
Craig
Elkbreath
Thanks and if you are ever in the Cheyenne area look me up. I am in the midst of making more for Antelope season that starts in 4wks.
I have two big trash bags full of secondary turkey feathers,before I waist my time grinding are they going to be ok to use? They are all barred just not have high oil lines.Frank
They can be used for smaller fletch, but they will not be as durable as primaries. Probably not a big deal if using carbon/alum because they are easier to strip and refletch.
Defiant, the secondaries I have used have all been noisy in flight, otherwise fine. I wouldn't use them for hunting arrows, but they're great for practice if you don't mind the noise. Also, a jake's primaries are noisy, too. The primaries need to come from a mature bird.
Thanks guys,I will stick to the primaries just too much work for noisy and weak flight.Frank
I've seen arrows crested with snake skin before but how is it done properly?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/Dannysarrows003.jpg)
AK.
You make a beautifull arrow Mr. Kidner!
Eric
Here's my latest... ash arrows, purple rit dye stain, white cap with Testor's model paint crests, Min-wax poly-pro seal.
(http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/41369/2292637570011135707S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2292637570011135707zPCkGP)