While at the Poke and Hope Shoot yesterday, I had the chance to see and handle some really nice arrows. Some aluminum,carbon, and the woodies felt great as I pulled them from the targets.
So...I was again asking myself. WHY, do I shoot carbons. My answers were:
-I travel in and out of dry then humid climates constantly
- carbons are easily set-up
- I can find replacements at almost any archery shop wheeled or otherwise.
Now I'll ask you guys that shoot them regularly; Why not carry/shoot wood?
I'm not sure what different climates have to do with it....properly sealed woods will weather the weather....whether or not 8^). Woods are just as easily set-up....actually easier.
I think your last question should have been.."why carry/shoot wood." The answer for me is because they work as well as any other shaft. I use all three...matter of fact; however, a good wooden (cedar) arrow gives up nothing to other types.
My quiver usually contains all three and I shoot them all fine.For abuse though Ill pull out the carbon.
I started with Aluminum over 20 years ago. Still shoot them out of my heavy recurves. But everything else,,, selfbows, BBO, modern longbows are all shot with wood. 99% with POC cedar.
Wood is cheap, easy to find easy to work and they work perfect. A quality wood arrow properly worked gives up nothing to a NASA shaft. Properly worked is the key. I've lost arrows in the fall, found them the next spring and they are straight and ready to be refleched.
Plus they are traditional in anyone's "trad scale"... LOL
I love to shoot wood. In my experience they are just not as tough as carbon. If you buy good wood they cost as much as carbon and I just feel you get more bang for your buck with carbon. Wood looks the coolest though!
Hi Billy. It was nice to meet you there. All I shoot is wood. In fact, I shot an arrow made from wild rose almost exclusively. Why shoot wood? Because I don't have to order out for it. :) Jawge
Glad you offered the chance George. It was a treat to be there and meet you and the crowd.
That 'green and yellow camoed' Hickory was a looker.
Not ordering out, sounds good.
I will have to find ways to meet more of the folks on this site and share some 'flight' time with them.
I'm open to ideas for my 50#@28" Red Wing Hunter, drawn at 26.5", by me; where wood set ups are concerned.
I like the woodies the best. As far as cost goes wooden arrows can get pricey. Its also hard to find carbons fletched with feathers in most box sportings good stores. Thanks to them its hard to find a mom/pop shop near where you may be. Lets face it, we are the archery minority. So thats why I buy and salvage any wood arrows I find. It takes a little more time to build woodies, but thats what I like about it. It's like raising a child you start with a blank shaft and build it up.You see it change into different stages until its grown and you send it to its destination. I'm kind of weird about wood.
It was good shooting with you, Billy, I think Bob and Chuck had a good time too. The weather sure cooperated.
C'mon back next year, maybe I'll let you shoot some of my genuine real wood arrows. You know, the kind that you were pulling out of the ten ring all the time (on second thought I think Bob made those...).
Keep on truckin'
:thumbsup: :archer:
I've been shooting wood in all kinds of weather for more than 40 years. I see no reason to change.
I shoot wood only because I enjoy crafting my own arrows. Somehow cresting, crown dipping, and fletching carbon or aluminum just don't have the appeal for me. Oh and you've got to throw in straightening. You don't have to worry about that with carbon or aluminum, at least before you fletch them up. But straightening a shaft is also part of the fun.
Lastly, I own a lumberyard. I like wood. Wood is a renewable resource. Trees grow. Healthy well-managed forests produce plenty of wood for shafts and other building materials and use plenty of CO2 from the atmosphere.
So, save the planet! Shoot wood arrows!
Mike
Yes, carbon is more durable...aluminum is way more consistant, but making your own arrows from wood shafts is just plain fun and rewarding. What better way to spend some time during the off-season than crafting your own wooden arrows? To me it's part of the total trad. experience. Try it, you'll like it!
Aluminum....consistancy with every arrow. I was shooting barrel tapered ash until my supplier went out of business...I loved those durable ash hunting arrows but aluminum is tough, flatter shooting and again, consistant.
Climate means nothng to me, I hunt the World's most extreme, and I use wood arrows exclusively. Just use adequate sealant such as Helsman Spar Urethane. None of that Gasket laquer crap.
All I shoot are wooden shafts. I've tried aluminums and cabons but I find they just dont feel right. It may only be the psycological factor but I find wood preforms better for me. Besides , if your going to shoot a trad bow why use high tec arrows?
Carbons for me because the wood arrow builders don't want to make me arrows for 56#@32" and 59#@32"....
Billy: It was good to meet you there. For a number of years I made custom arrows. There is nothing wrong with them at all. Unless you are a Jawge and make your own shafts, the biggest issue with good consistent wood arrow is finding a good supplier who can send you shafts that are matched consistently from one dozen to another. If you can solve that "problem" wood is good.
Bill Carlsen
Did you use to have Renaissance Archery in Jersey back in the 90's?
stump
did alum when I started out then moved to woodies.... Wood arrows just feel better to me.
Stump: No...I was Madbury Arrowworks out of NH...back in the 90's.
all I shoot is wood. Just bought 3 dz pre finished from Cabelas and 2 dz from 3 rivers. I shoot long and self bows and to me anything other than wood just don't seem right.
Wood for me Quality is not a issue
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Too this:
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WHAT TYPE OF WOOD IS THAT? SOME DAY WHEN I HAVE THE SPACE, I'M DOING TO DO THAT FROM SCRATCH. WOOD AND WOODWORKING IS IN MY BLOOD. MY UNCLE BUILDT GRANDFATHER CLOCKS WHEN HE WAS ALIVE.THOSE ARE SOME FINE LOOKING ARROWS!
Thank you,
The wider boards are ash my personal favorite, the other two are zebra wood that I am experimenting with. Have also tried Leapord wood made a beautiful arrow that was heavey of weight and spine but a little brittle like Doug fir.
Aluminum and carbon have no soul, no personality. Wood arrows have both, and are quieter, both in shooting and in handling. Ever accidentally tapped your bow with an aluminum while hunting? It's an unnatural sound that alerts everything in the woods. Do it with a wood arrow, and it sounds like an acorn fell.
Wood arrows naturally dampen the vibration of shooting more quickly than arrows made other materials. Aluminum arrows actually "sing" while going through the air. They don't quit vibrating until they hit the target, if it hasn't jumped out of the way or ducked. Stand downrange in a safe place and listen.
For me, nothing equals personally making up a quality set of woods and shooting them, especially taking game or winning trophies with them. They are a link to tradition and personal satisfaction that I just don't get with the manufactured stuff. When I shot competition, I really enjoyed switching to a recurve sometimes and beating the aluminum and carbon shooters with my handcrafted barreled woods, just to show what the woodies can do.
I use Alum. and wood arrows because i like them the best and it feels better to shoot them.
good wood is good. I dont feel I give up anything by using wood arrows. Forgiving, durable, and they just feel "right" to me.
Spend a little extra and buy a tightly matched set and you'll love them.
Trap
I agree SuperK. Making a wood arrows is fun and rewarding. There is a feel and stealthiness about a wood arrow shot through a wood bow that feels right. I don't get that with carbons or aluminumnimums...lol Oh, those shafts will shoot well no debt about it. Just doesn't feel the same.
Some people build model airplanes. I build wood arrows, many of them right from the log. Some of them from shoots. My feathers come right from the turkey too. Cut'm, dye'm, shape'm, glue'm. It's all great fun! And I, for one, can't shoot bare bow well enough to take advantage of the consistancey of aluminum. Admit it folks, if you're not shooting pin sights, you can't either.
I like wood. I shoot aluminum and a little carbon, too (though never from my Hills...). But wood is my favorite.
The older I get the more I tend to think that no matter where I'm headed, 'simpler' is somehow the right general direction. No science or technology to base that on, though. Just a gut feeling.
Those who keep saying you can't get good wood shafts or arrows are not correct. I've been shooting woods for a long time, and yes I do like aluminum as well. I've found great shafts out there that will shoot better then most here can shoot them. Part of the mystique of wood is that they will still shoot straight, if not perfect themselves. I like things that cooperate in the field. If you're looking for perfect straightness and no anomalies at all, then stick with the tubing. The last ones I got from Larry at Lost Nation will group so tight you need tweezers to pull them out 8^). Well...almost.
If I could find wood arrows in the spine I want, that finish out at the weight I want, that are as durable and cost effective as carbons, I'd buy wood in a heartbeat.