My hunting buddy Vance shot this boar, what we didn't know was my other friend shot this boar the year before and lost it.
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This boar was shot with a 80lb compound in the face.
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Man I wish we had pigs up here. But I won't givbe up my whitetails though! Great pig King.
Now those are some cutters!!!! :scared:
The boar had no sign that he was ever injured, except when Vance shot it, he would only turn to his right.
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I was with Eddy when he shot this boar the year before, he told me he shot a big boar right in the face and it ran off like a unicorn with the arrow sticking out in front of him.
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Can you believe how much bone was created to surround the broadhead
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We did not even know it was shot until we boiled the scull out, then we saw the shaft in his face, so we cleaned it in hydrogen peroxide.
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Outstanding pig. Needless to say, Vance's shot was better than your other friend's attempt. You guys keep posting pics like this and I'll have to start looking for a job in Cali...NORTHERN Cali that is ;)
Great pics, truly a testament to their resiliancy.
that is a tough pig!
After looking at that chunk of arrow maybe I better recant my last statement :scared: those babies can really take a lick.
Wow that is crazy!! Those truly are tough critters! Thanks for the pics and tell your buddy congrats on a great looking pig!!
How old do you think this guy is, had no teeth and a huge bone growth on his jaw.
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This was truly an old man.
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king,
What do you mean no teeth, that one on the right jaw bone looks pretty mean to me.
I personally would not use a bow on these critters. A pocket knife would be more of a challenge.
YEA RIGHT!
Wow thats amazing, great pics and thanks for sharing
Leatherneck, look at where his molars wouldbe, they been gone for a long time.
Yea, he can still hook-ya with his right, but he could only gum ha on the left.
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I think I'd stay to the left on this one. If he was still kicking that is. Awesome pics king, thanks. Us northern boys don't get much chance to see these pigs. Cool stuff.
That was truly the grandfather hog there.
Thanks for showing that to us.
Ray, how old do you think?
I'm thinking late teens
Great pics. Thanks for sharing.
They had a video at the big Harrisburg, PA sportsman show at a outfitter's booth of hunting hogs...I recall one guy with a heavy compound shooting at a hog rushing him head on...and the arrow (no lie) bounced right off his head and came back at the guy... I stayed to watch that footage 2x to make sure.
Amazing critters! Only ever got to shoot at ONE and hunted them 3 times...they're a hoot! And spookey!
wow
King, I am not familiar with YOUR hogs out there...but look at all the 'dinosaur' characteristics in that bone! Man he is absolutely scary looking..I bet he was formidable looking in the flesh, wasn't he?
I would bet he was way over 10...maybe 15?
I want to ask you something I've asked lots of folks about here....and never gotten a satisfactory answer.
We have conservatively speaking a thousand plus hogs on our land at any one time...we also have lots of bobcats, coyotes, and gators preying on them. We roam all over the property, thick open you name it..we've walked it.
We have found perhaps a dozen hog skulls in places other than our gutpile over the years. Where are all the hogs going that die of old age on our land? It's a puzzle to me...we find deer all the time...but hogs are a rarity. Are they kind of like elephants? Go to some central, out of the way place to pass? Maybe thats not the case for you as your cover looks very open all over.
Ray, they never die !
Man, that's a lot of bone growth in a years time.
Amazing what a body does to heal itself..
I really don't know how long pigs live in our area..but I have seen a hog over several years and it just seemed to grow a little bigger every year..sure didnt get smaller though it got considerably older.
By the way, isn't that a Savora broadhead in that pigs face? Or a Rocky Mtn? doesnt look like a Muzzy but then again I'm no expert on those replaceable blade jobbers anyway.
Ray, that's funny that you would say "your not familiar with our hogs out here" and I think your right, because YOUR hogs aren't anything like our hogs, LOL
It amazes me how different hogs can be by region.
I have only hunted hog on the main land and Islands over here in cali.
This is the oldest hog we have ever killed or even found a skull this old.
The Island hogs never got into a fight, they would growl, huff and puff at each other but never engage, also out of a few hundred kills we never had a broken tusk.
The mainlanders fight every day, with brutal, savage and vicious battles like I have never seen, there scars have scars, it's rare that a boar has not broken a tusk.
As far as where are the skulls of the old boars, you got me? maybe aliens, like in the move Predator. :scared:
thats too cool
King I don't no about everyone else but we need some more pics!!!
Thats awesome.
Thanks
Is it possible that the hogs are cannibalistic and eat their dead? If you ever watched Deadwood you would understand my frame of reference.
of course, I have lost a shot hog to others eating it...but they don't eat those skulls...even a hyena or jaguar would have a hard time cracking a hog skull.
I really like that alien theory about the skulls myself. :thumbsup: :biglaugh:
I have never spent a whole lot of time where there were hogs except when hunting but have never found any remains other than a couple of pigglets a coyote might have got.Where we hunt on bad hurricane years it is major flooding so I always assumed the woods got washed clean every few years. :) On the note of a hog being hard headed.I watched a 22 bounce off a hogs head and hit my dad in the arm one day when he missed the sweet spot at killing time.
QuoteOriginally posted by gehrke145:
King I don't no about everyone else but we need some more pics!!!
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looks fine from here
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All of this bone grew in one year
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It looks like his throat was getting smaller from the growth
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This, I think, confirms, a hog can take some punishment and not miss a beat
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Totally Awesome!!
Wow.
King WB there is a page on boar aging on the front of the texas boars site I think. If you saw the stupid tv show "monster hogs" thing that "monster chasers" on the discovery channel or someone did. That was his ranch they were on. He does a lil trad bow hunting but not much. But he knows A LOT about boars. Once the teeth fall it it'll be hard to age but I think the amount of holes left should tell you something.
that poor pig though. This is a great picture of why you should only take lung or heart shots on pigs. Pigs of any size at least. If that was a fifteen lb pig and you got that muzzy thats fine. But thats WAY too big a pig to shoot in the head.
Jeffer is right, that IS totally awesome.
Excellent example of the ability wild animals
have by surviving, and recovering from severe wounds.
As tough as they are though, we all know what a sharp head to the lungs will do in mere seconds.
Thanks for posting the photo`s Kingwouldbe.
Always something cool coming from you.
What set up was he shot w/ from the other guy. I shot a 175 lbr a few years ago in the same place while he was napping. Went thru his skull, severed the spine at the atlas joint and was bearly poking out of the skin. It was w/ a 70lb whellie bow & carbon arrows though. Sweet pig.... they are IMO the toughest critter in NA.
It was killed with a 55lb Habu recurve and a 530grain arrow with a Delta 2 blade, double lungs
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: Congrats on the trophy.
Nice pics, Dave thanks for sharing. I used to have a deer leg bone with a broadhead in it. The bone had grown back around the head like yours. A friend killed a big buck several years ago that had an arrow imbedded between the antlers!!! Those hog skulls sure are awesome looking!!
David
Nice hogs for sure.I once was in a club that was 3 miles or so from the Paridise trad club. I killed a hog that had a snuffer in his jaw bone all healed up.Hogs are tuff but the interesting thing is he traveled the three miles and stayed. I saw the pig several times before getting lucky and killing him.
Ray I have never found a mature "old" dead hog either.I have found some that I thought were wounded and died but as far as old age goes I hav`nt.Interesting no doubt.R C
I have found several like this one.RC
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Our southern hogs are traced back to the Spainards with Desota expeditions and others that followed him. My favorite deer stand is on the "Desota Trail" on the Big River but that another story......We call our hogs ferral hogs which means domestic hog turned wild. We have ferrel cats , ferrel dogs and we had a one time ferral Emus and a peacock at the Paradise....still another story... However 100% of the hogs I have killed in Ga, Fl and Sc were ferrel hogs from what was the Essex breed. The Essex breed was a popular breed of hog used in the south around 1800's and early 1900 for meat and LARD..They would really put it on after they were casterated. This hog was a predominately black swine with single hair follicle and NOT like the hair of an imported Russian or Belgium hog you see at some fence places.
I would suspect the west coast hogs have a strong background from the polynesian hogs that were dropped off by Capt Cook and others. But with the recent (in last 200 years) settling of the west, I am sure some eastern hogs made the wagon trip and/or train ride.
Interesting enough we now have a ferral Vietinese Potbellied hog showing up recently in mid ga. on some selected tracts .Pet owners turning these pets a loose..Old hogs do die in the woods....their skulls do rot or squirrels chew them up, or deer eat nibble on them but due to TB, hunters, depredation hunters, floods and general sickness,, the ole boy has a hard time making it very old...An average wild ferel hog will gain under decent mast and floral conditons 60# a year...a farm hog will gain what 200#..... so think about how many hogs see in a pack......you might see one large mature 200# -350# every so often....they a far and few between. A mature boar can rome a 100miles in a summer along a tributary..He's bound to run into a hog cowboy and a bulldog, depredation poison,trapped or sickness.....he has got it tough.... I admire these animals greatly....intersting past about them although they are basically scorned by the QDM deer hunting crowd..
Again....cool pics mate, thanks.
AK.
Joe, the hogs we got out here are a mix for sure, The Island hog definitely lean to the polynesian type.
On the mainland we have a mix of Russian from the King city area that where imported and let go, they mixed with feral that where already roaming the hills.
Some areas have banded hogs ( I think there called Berkshire, most of our hogs have little ears laid back tight to there head, every now and then someone will shoot one with floppy ears.
The armorer can be vary thick and in some areas they spend the winter in the snow and grow some long thick hair.
Out here, I think our hogs might have longer legs, they look taller.
Also they don't get hammered that hard, vary little trapping, and a lot of private land for them to get lost on.
As far as age go's the last set of molars come out in 6-7th year, so if those are worn there old and if there missing well, it's vary old.
we have some surprisingly long legged pigs here in the south too.
some are short and fat like lil footballs and others look like a little horse on a pig body. long heads and long legs.
There was a place in Texas we went about 8 yr. ago that the sleepin quarters were in a 100 acre fenced enclosure. The rest of the 5k acres were unfenced (where we hunted).
We dumped the remains of our pigs about 80 yds from the cabin every night and the next day EVERYTHING was gone hide,skulls etc.. you could barely tell anything had been there. If there is a weekness in a fence a pig will find it. The land manager assured us there were only pigs in there, no predators.
don't you love non-typical stuff!