I have been following all the chatter about the single bevel broadheads, and how well they seem to cut. Did anyone have a chance to check out the new "Woody weights" at Compton? For those of us who choose to stay with wood shafts, these things are gonna be awesome. They attach to the shaft ahead of the broadhead, and move the "point of center" forward. Talk about increasing penetration! I believe they will be made in 75 grain and up to 200 grains. You definately need to check these out if you are still dedicated to wood arrows!
Do you mean 'behind the broadhead'? Either way; can't wait to see one.
who makes them?
Where can we find them? 3Rivers, are you listening?
Yep. I saw them. 200 grainers. No doubt they'll work. All that metal hanging on the end of the arrow will look a little ugly though, IMO.
Mike Deppe has come up with them. He will be in Grayling this weekend at the Jamboree. Or you can contact him at woodyweights@comcast.net
Bjorn, guess I should have stated it that way. They have a female taper that glues on the shaft taper, then a male taper to attach your broadhead to. Guess that would be behind. Oops
The are carried by Mike Deppe redbear02@comcast.net They are very easy to put on. I used a 125 gr field point, so it intantly added 325 gr to my footed hexshaft arrow. Total arrow weighs 890 gr now. Flies great out of my 75 # Brackenbury.
I just spoke to Mike this afternoon, and he told me that to contact him, send e-mails to woodyweights@gmail.com He is also busy working on a web site for these.
I would love to see these.
Herdbull,
How much did you have to increase your spine to achieve good flight with the additional weight?
Thanks!!!
The hexshafts I got from Whispering Winds were spined about 90#, and shaft alone weighs 535 gr., but my finished arrow is 32 inches long. My prefered setup includes 4x5 inch fletching as well. I did not bare shaft or anything. I have not shot this heavy of arrow for very long and I have not hunted with this yet. I will wait and see how my acuracy and confidence is after shooting them for a while. Does it look kind of ugly? Yes. But maybe the elk won't mind. Ha! Like I've said I havent commited to this set up yet, but it does seem like a good option. If you can't wait for Mike to come out with less weight, you can always grind a little off the tip and get down to 175 gr. etc etc. Mike
THX!!!
A small group of us wood shooters got together with Mike Deppe over Memorial Day weekend, up in the northern Michigan forest, at my cabin. We feild tested these babies on everything from 3D targets to stumps. We were certainly all impressed with the added penetration...-and they don't take anything away from the traditional flow of things. If anything, I thought they added to it. They kinda look like a little stem for your broadhead. Worth checking out, they're awesome.--Don McKellar
Yes I saw them and to be honest here, isn't this all getting a little bit crazy? How dead is dead? The last deer that I shot and didn't have the arrow go in one side and out the other was when I was 16 and shooting a 45lb Shakespear Wonderbow.
Don't those osage footed shafts put extra weight up front? Wish I could've seen those at Compton's. Maybe a 75grain weight with your BH would increase your penetration? That way when it went out the other side you could still check the arrow flight!
can someone post a pic of them please.
Jerry (Orion) has been playing with a way to forward weight (.. and strengthen) a wood shaft that sounds very promising. I wonder if he has gone forward with his idea ?
Jerry ?
ChuckC
Here are the photo's of the woody weights.These are patent pending.
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm413/jetskiaj/DSCF0450.jpg
http://i318.photobucket.com/albums/mm413/jetskiaj/DSCF0451.jpg
Nice simple idea-should work real well.
Mike and I currently have in the 75, 125, and 200 grain woodyweights*. All sizes will be in by summer end. We will be in Denton Hills, PA end of July 24-27, GLLI in Hastings, MI August 8-10. Also in the Upper Penninsula, and at Elm Hall, MI Contact us at woodyweights@gmail.com
*patent pending
Chuck: I've made a few prototypes. Just drill a 3/16 hole in a 11/32 shaft and insert about 2 1/2 inch steel rod, which yields about 100 grains. Then taper the arrow and put on the point. Because this "internal footing" extends about 1 1/2 inches into the shaft behind the point, it appears to also strengthen the shaft immediately behind the head where it is most susceptible to breaking. I've shot these into plywood (intentionally) and an oak tree (unintentionally) and haven't broken any yet. I'm having a machined jig made to ensure absolute centering of the pilot hole with a hand held drill. Will be able to vary the weight added by length of rod inserted. It will be fairly easy to do after I get the jig made, but still not as fast or easy as the woody weights. Arrow will look cleaner though because the weight is entirely internal.
Is John still trying to get some jigs made up ?
Longer drill bits are available. I saw some in a sales flyer recently that were over 12" long, even for 3/16" diameter.
I want to hear how these work out for you. Maybe even try some of my own. I like woodies a lot.
ChuckC
Chuck: John's working on it. You'll probably see it before I do.
I look forward to trying both ideas in and on my wood arrows.
I was trying to add small lead fishing weights to a hole drilled in the font of the shaft then epoxy them in. I like the idea of the steel rod better.
Looks like the web site is up now. www.woodyweights.com (http://www.woodyweights.com)
I like the Woody Weight concept, but I only need abot 25 - 30 grains for my Judos to match my Snuffers???
Zbone, you might try melting a few lead shot pellets in the ferrule to bring the judos up to the desired weight.
Trap
Question for any of you guys having knowledge or experience with the Woody Weights reference arrow spine.
I usually follow this basic rule when estimating for correct spine when adding additional point weight:
"If your point weight is heavier than 125 grains, add 3 to 5 lbs for every 25 grains."
Does this also apply to the Woody Weights? If I have a current combination that is dead on for spine with a 70-74# shaft and I add a 75grain Woody Weight, will I need go up to an 85-89# shaft??
Thanks for any input,
Daddy Bear
Trap - "Zbone, you might try melting a few lead shot pellets in the ferrule to bring the judos up to the desired weight"
Thanx, but I tried it, didn't work for squat. Also tried drilling out the end of an already tapered shaft tio insert a nail and that didn't work very well either by hand. Think I may try to pick up some 75-grain WW and drill or grind them down. Whatgez think?
Just giving a little plug for Mike... The Woody Weights worked great! Thanx