I'm quite fired up here. Neck is fixin to swell. Can't take much more of this long hard wait. Scoutin a couple of times a week, shootin more'n I should, makin grunt tubes and wearin out reeds. :help:
Anyway, the point of the thread. I'd like to hear all the Successful Setups (bow,#,head, arrow, distance, etc...) that ya'll have used to take elk. Also, show us those pics to prove it!
:campfire:
I'll start! I've taken a pile of bulls with training wheels but, this is a TRAD thread. this ones reaching back a little bit, I've only been shootin stickbows for 6 years. He was the first bull I took with a longbow.
Called him up around 10 am. Broadside shot @ 28 yards. Arrow actually clipped a branch part way, cut it clean. I think I only got one lung. But, 150 yards later, dead is dead. Many thanks were given for this bull. :notworthy:
Recipe;
Home Made R/D Longbow-
62#@28", 2
8.5" Grizz Stik Alaskan.
Alum insert, 190 gr Ribtek off the tree branch into the lung.
:knothead: sorry, heres proof...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/purist1/elk/7a3dd176.jpg)
nice.....that a 3pc T/D?
Here'a a whipper snapper for my first elk I took last year.
Black Widow PSA Osage 64#
Grizzly heads, 2317 765 grain arrow, 25 yards, heart and both lungs, bull died 30 yards later.
A lot of bulls and bugling everywhere. I will be going back to T Bar M Outfitters this year.
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New Mexico
1999
Public land archery tag
Zipper recurve, aluminum 2216 with Magnus One
5 -7 yards
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mystic, yep. thanks for the input guys! nice bulls!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/purist1/elk/8813eaf8.jpg)
same setup.
mystic, another pic of that bow with my first elk.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/purist1/elk/03f966f3.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m174/bohuntr77/Rotationof2006ElkHunt022.jpg)
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70lb @ 29 1/2" Robertson Vision Falcon
2020 Easton Legacy's tipped with Magnus Stinger 4 Blade.
25yds slightly quarting away -- complete penetration.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/nucduke/50front.jpg)
Super Shrew 67lb @29 1/2 600 gr carbon shaft with STOS broadhead 43 yards broadside heart shot double lung
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bohntr...How did you get a 2020 to spine correctly pulling 70 lbs?
awesome guys! Bohntr and sherpa, beautiful bulls. we'd love to hear a story and general locale/tag. sherpa, I think I'm going with the stos this year. 43 yards! good shot too.
Elkbreath,
I posted a pictorial of that hunt a year and a half ago. I have done a few picture stories that you newly registered tradgangers probably haven't seen. I will bring them up in a new thread: Chronicles of the Missouri Sherpa I will post it in a few minutes.
I'll find it. thanks.
PS, I used to be 'purist' not elkbreath, been around here a little while.
Richie can't really tell you. That particular bow seemed to like a little lighter spine than I would have expected. I started out trying to shoot 2219's which had worked out of my 65lb Habu Death Adder but that was too stiff. The 2020's would make a bullet hole when paper tuning and broadhead tipped arrows flew great so that is what I used. I now use Easton Axis 340's with extreme front of center by adding 125gr brass inserts and shooting a 185 gr. Snuffer.
Missouri Sherp, I didn't think a two blade left a blood trail? Stop going against the norm please! ;)
Great photos guys, hopefully head out that way in 2009.
J
TTT. Just once... Gotta be more elk here!
this one took 65# I believe, and a zwickey eskimo.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/DSCN1837.jpg)
TTT.... C'mon guys there has to be more elk pics out there. I leave in a month for Montana and I need to see some more pics to get my fix.
September 2006....Somewhere NW of Durango
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Brett
Steer.... were you with an outfitter?
I have 33 days before i head to colorado for my first elk hunt.I cant wait.
I leave for wyoming on the 11th of september and cant wait!!!!
Elkbreath beautiful trophy! Is that a c-c-c-c-ccompound bow in the bottom right hand corner of your second pic?
How'd that get in there!!! :-)
actually, that's my buddies bow, hes still shootin the training wheels, and we've been hunting together for 6 years now. I didn't include any of my own wheelie bow kills here.
Used to not carry a camera much at all, but since I've gone to the stick and string, I seem to remember it more!
Thanks to everyone for keepin this thread alive! just a couple more weeks and its finally time.
The Rocky Mountains is the Marrow of the World!
The bull above, with the curve in its antlers, was taken last year by a friend.
This funky bull was killed a few years back...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/purist1/elk/MarkElk.jpg)
How about a meat bull? Pass through, laid down with in sight...
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_8091.jpg)
Stripped Clean
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_8094.jpg)
Meat bull fulfilling the measure of his creation...
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_8093.jpg)
How about my first Bull killed without camo! Now that was a milestone!
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_6529-1.jpg)
Anyway, tag ya'll are it!
Some good looking pics there Elkbreath. Seems to be you know where to find 'em! Thanks for posting ,
AK.
Elk breath, Just because it's not your bow dosen't mean it's ok to post picks with compounds. :knothead:
Don't get me wrong I'm a elk hunter and I love to look at the picks but Terry and the mods have a job to do and could pull this whole thread if the wanted to and that would be a shame because everybody wants to look at the elk picks right now. It's that time of year and you are doing a great job on getting everybody fired up.
See if you can crop out the wheel bows or find a different angle or something and then we can all injoy the picks. Looks like you know what your doing thats for sure and I wish you good luck this year. :wavey:
Tracy
Richie Nell,
Yes sir....I was with an outfitter.
Brett
Elkbreath this is a fine thread and the hunters who have killed an Elk with a trad bow are to be celebrated-they have reached a level many of us are working towards. Frankly, your pics have me confused; in the middle of page 2 there is the 'meat bull' in the first pic there is what looks like a backed self bow hanging from the tree great pic!
A couple of pics later the meat is wrapped, clean up time, and presto! There is a different tool laying on the ground-you can see my confusion. I'm not being an elitist snob; I hunt with guys who shoot compounds, sometimes; but their animals don't rank here, with the Trad folks who have taken their trophies, with the tools we have chosen to use. A rifle shot Elk wouldn't belong here either.
nice bulls guys , best of luck to y'all this year
Hey would you guys please lighten up you ask to see bow killed elk and now your gripen bout a few wheels in the pics i dont see you guys posting many pics so give the guy a break :(
If nothing had ever been said about compounds I doubt if that many people would've noticed or cared. I sure didn't. And if you think killing an elk with a compound is any easier than killing one with a recurve or LB....you've never been elk hunting.
My hat is off to elkbreath. Anyone who can consistantly kill elk with whatever bow is to be commended. Obviously...he can!
Anyway...the point of this thread was pictures of dead elk....no more or no less.
Brett
I have killed elk with wheels and trad and have plenty of picks of both but we are talking about respect. Please respect this site and refrain from showing wheel bow picks because like I said I don't want to see this thread pulled.
" The point of this thread was pictures of dead elk" With trad equipment on a trad only sight :thumbsup:
Tracy
Just because I like to see other bowhunter's critters. Here is one of mine.
65# Bruin Recurve, Snuffer Broadhead
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Kagyone/87Elk.jpg)
I respectfully submit this. :bigsmyl:
Here is a brief copy of the agreement that all Trad Gang members agreed to before becoming a member of this site. The Parts boxed in are what make this site unique. The atmosphere and the fact that this is a traditional only site are what keep me here.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/Gatekeeper100/TradGangRules.jpg)
I love seeing pictures of past and current traditional hunts. This will be my first year to hunt elk and I am very excited! So keep the traditional pictures coming gang.
Ok, all pictures have been edited to remove the evil influences.
Lets not let this thread to turn into an argument of semantics...
Boy you guys are to dam harsh on the guy . Thank you elkbreath for posting many nice picture of you and your elk
elkbreath,
Thanks for handling this thread so well. I had a friend just this morning send me some great pics of elk he and his 13 year old son killed last year.
Until this thread, all I focused on were the elk and their success, not on the fact there were compounds in the pictures. I guess I better delete them from my computer.
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I used a homemade Osage bow at 93#s and 23/64 cedar shafts with a grizzly 190.
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I think I messed up on the last post. Here is the elk with the 93# bow
Welcome Elkbreath!!! your experience and knowledge will be welcomed here......just get better at PhotoShop :D
Awesome Big Archer! 93#, thats a heavy bow, as if you didn't know that. did you shoot through him?
Gun, that is a beautiful bull. Look like he had been around the block a couple of times!
that's "MISTER Big Archer, sir..." :D
Im done with this thred, I'm not one to bash what people hunt with.
I'm headed to a camp in September where I will be the only one shooting a traditional bow. 3 other bowhunters, all over 60 years old, shooting wheels. They love bowhunting, I love bowhunting. I hope they appreciate the commitment and dedication it takes for me to shoot my bow and build my own arrows, but I don't think any less of them for shooting their technologically superior weapons. We all have a great time by the fire, and funny, we never talk about who's shooting what. We just talk about hunting and racing 1955 Mercuries and the like.
Have a good camp and respect others.
You guys are doing a fair job of policeing your selves on this thread SO FAR
However if it goes ANY farther we'll step in OK
Please RESIZE your Photos to 640. Help thread is locked to the top. Edit your posts to get back on topic!!!
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To all those on a mission to rid the world of compound shooters, our brothers; and at the same time ruin a perfectly good thread which is not about compounds, but rather killing elk with trad bows and what it was that did the job;
I invite you not to read this thread, to share your thoughts here, nor to invest your time here. If you have pictures of elk that you have killed or friends, and would like to share them, please do.
NONE of the elk pictured here that I took where with compounds, one was by my friend. I called him up and I have pictures of many more if folks want to see them. But, it doesn't matter. The fact Is I call in 4-5 other bulls that get killed with bows every year by friends or family. All of them with wheels other then my own. All of them were deserved and respectful kills. i personally lean toward the purist view as do all here, but it is a very narrow minded way to live if we can't see that others are enjoying our sport while riding training wheels.
Again, this thread is about dead Elk, and what they were killed with, and posted to all those who shoot Traditional Bows on tradgang. It is posted in a Traditional forum because thats what We here want to hear and talk about. Outside of that discussion, if you have a picture to share of a deserved bull, I'd love to see it. I hope you felt the spirit that I feel when hunting in harvesting it, be it with a pocket knife or cannon. We are getting nowhere if we are here to rag on others thoughts, feelings and views.
We are getting somewhere when tolerance is King, and the love, passion and dedication that are seen in traditional archery are sought in all our pursuits. Calling and Taking Elk included.
Pictures of compound bow kills aren't allowed on Trad Gang as the focus is traditional equiptment only.
Not the least bit predjudiced just keeping the site on track.
To prove the lack of predjudice we don' allow bashing of compounds either.
We also try to keep oversize pictures in check.
I went through and cleaned up the thread a little bit.... it's a good one.
thanks for the effort Charlie and Iron Bull. It look like the whole thread is trad only now!
Ok, the floodgates should open, there has to be more elk kills here to keep us moving!
Shoot Straight, Dan
Elkbreath, do you have a dead elk picture showing a heart punch in relation to the crease for a broadside? thanks
To get us back goin I'll post another.
I know I posted this one recently on the Backpack thread, but It fits here too. Its one of my favorites because of the situation. I had been fortunate to have been in on 4 bow-kills this year, in 4 days, the two weeks before. But, by the time it was my turn, things had slowed and I only had a couple of days (having a baby in September will do that to you). The first day was a Friday. 3 of my brothers Joined me and my dad. This was the only day we've ever had all of us in the woods at one time (I have another much younger brother and sister). The day was very slow, unusually slow, we only called in a couple of spikes and a cow, and never heard a single bugle that day that I remember (repressed memory), to this point. Than, walking out, the whole herd of 5 of us, bumped some cows. We all hit the deck and blew cow calls, all of us. The bull grunted a soft bugle, and came running up to us. Being the only trad guy (two of my brothers had tags still) my bow was drawn and shot first, by far :D
The combination of an oddly slow day, this much of my family there, how fast it all happened (like 20 seconds from the time we bumped a cow to the time the arrow zipped through him) make this bull one of my very favorites. He ain't big, but he had the cows in that spot (haven't been back there) and gave us a show.
69# @ 29.5" Saluki Ibex.
Beman Black Max arrows,
razorcap heads.
17 yard shot, Clean pass through, short blood trail and short pack out! Only like 3/4 mile to the truck (hence the reason this little guy had cows), five strong backs to share the load, thats a good bull any day.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/IMG_4285.jpg)
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Joe, I don't. My shot on the above bull was tad high, shootin uphill. Notice the exit wound in the 'family' shot, much higher!
look at the Graphic picture of Missouri Sherpa's bull on the first page. Thats some dang nice shot placement there. A couple inches above the elbow and a couple toward the front is where to put them. just inside the muscle crease.
Dan
Great family picture Dan! That picture is worthy of framing. Great story also. Thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:
The one in my avatar was taken with a 60# BW TF with cedar shaft and Magnus 1. 8 yards, both lungs and cut all the arteries at the top of the heart - less than 40 yards to crash.
One for one on elk hunting with a bow, going to wreck that stat with a trip to CO in a few weeks.
Great shot....Dan, is that an Elknut Monarch Bugle tube with external reed or do you use a mouth call and blow his Chuckler bugle?
31 days and counting. I've been packed for 2-weeks! Hope I get a little of your mojo Elkbreath. Great thread.
Thanks Charlie, thats the way you handle this in respect to the author. Dont bash him, help him.
Good job Elkbreath!
Mike
After six trips west looking for elk I finally found the right one (dumb one?) last year in New Mexico. Robertson Vison Falcon, and Wensel Woodsman heads riding Gold Tip arrows weighing 630 grains. Coolest thing I have ever done! And in three more weeks I'll be in the same mountains again!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/CopyP1010367.jpg)
Awsome pick Whip, The smile says it all :wavey:
Tracy
I love that picture! And being in Wisconsin, thats a pretty big trip down to NM! congrats.
Joe, That is the Monarch Grunt tube from Buglin Bulls Game calls (rocky Jacobson)sans the external reed. I use that one and a couple I've made out of whiffle ball bats and primos grunt tubes. Diaphragm reeds are the way to go as far as bugling goes, none of the external reed calls can match them. They also are great for cow sounds, though I like to carry a couple reeded calls for that too. Some guys can use their voice, I've tried but cant, except for on short pants/huffs and moans. My preferences, its what works for me!
Thanks again everyone.
You see that patch of blue sky between Whip's hat and the antler? We had to pack that guy up there just to get to the cliff edge BEFORE the 2+ mile hike back to the truck.
Good luck Joe, shoot one next to the trail this time! I'll be about 100 miles south of you this year. Meet you in Unit 52 next year...
Elkbreath, what did the antler tips on that bull you shot look like up close? Were they broken or some kind of growth defect?
yeah, it was like growin season ended too soon for him, top tips were still round. Odd bull.
Man you guys make me sooo want to go elk hunting!!!
Here is a picture of my 2006 Elk.I used a homemade longbow 57#@28",Beman shaft and Ziwicky head.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/delljohnson/ElkBest2006.jpg)
old way what happend to the elks leg? You start skinning ?>
mrgreenhead that is where the meat tag was attached.
Thanks Tracy - yeah that smile was way too big. Made the elk look smaller :rolleyes:
Good luck Norb. I will have to spend at least one day back in that spot, but it sure would be nice to get lucky closer to the truck!
Not sure what all happened, but I thank Charlie for fixin it.
:thumbsup:
TTT More please :goldtooth:
Tracy
Great job guys! I hope everybody gets together and shares the 2008 harvests also. Good luck!