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Title: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 15, 2008, 02:03:00 PM
Some pictures fromlast winter from the south french alps, my english is also from the same place...

I was lucky again to have a opportunity to hunt "mouflon" .In this mountains you can hunt mouflon or chamois and only look at the bouquetin (a kind of ibex) who are fully protected)

I was fortunate enaugh to get a other one but i made a bad shot in the elbow ... the sound was horrible "paaaaa" but the mouflon didn't went far ... i saw him going down quicly !

i used a 630 grs  big FOC arrow ( 18%) with a SB broadhead "grizzly" , the bow is 55 pounds but i was in very inconfortable place and i have to shoot very quickly from up to down

look a the exit Hole :

  (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/osa.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 15, 2008, 02:04:00 PM
the entrance hole

 (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/osb.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 15, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
the broahead, hard to sharpen but when hou get the right angle !!! it's working

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/osc.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 15, 2008, 02:09:00 PM
the arrow didn't get completly outside, the end part with the feathers was completly inside

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/osd.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on June 15, 2008, 02:10:00 PM
I guess you got it. How about pics of the animal?
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 15, 2008, 02:13:00 PM
voila !

it's a 3 years old wild mouflon

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/ose.jpg)


thank you Doc Ashby for all your work on the arrow penetration !

For the next season i have already prepared 20 % + foc arrows !

Ciao / K&K   :archer:
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: saltwatertom on June 15, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
MMMMMMMM........ I am envious!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Bonebuster on June 15, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
Congratulations kibok&ko.

Sometimes to take the shot, you have to make the shot, and shooting from an uncomfortable position
is all you get. Success sometimes comes from the ability to make the best of whatever shot presents itself.

Looks like a Pittsley Predator hiding under the camo wrap.
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 15, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
it's effectively a predator bow "hunter" model, a very good tool for difficult place
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Post by: Bjorn on June 15, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
Good pics and story kibok&ko-beautiful trophy. Thanks!!
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on June 15, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
Well done!
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Post by: LEOPARD on June 15, 2008, 05:16:00 PM
Excellant! Congrats!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: frassettor on June 15, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
great job!   :thumbsup:   how far did it go?
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 16, 2008, 02:27:00 AM
not far with a big "locomotion" problem, something like 100 m in a 30 % slope, fortunatly a i saw all the way because it's was snowing at this time
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: C. Lacey on June 16, 2008, 05:35:00 AM
Congrats Kibo!   :thumbsup:  

The Doc is already out bush in the Northern Territory but I'll be sure to point out this thread when he returns.  

When you get to making up those new arrows, why not try getting up around 25 - 30 foc.  He's finding that range works well for most people.  I have my favorites set at 28foc - takes some practice to ensure you keep your shots in the 'happy range' (they sure aren't flight arrows  :)  ) but even at my light poundages they pack a good deal of punch.

Cheers   Cher  :)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Mike Orton on June 16, 2008, 07:03:00 AM
Kibo, nicely done!  You took what poor opportunity came to you and made it work.  I'm sure it wasn't pretty but you got the job done.

As for our English, much better than my French....thanks for sharing your success with us.

 :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: J-dog on June 16, 2008, 08:13:00 AM
Awesome, you should get some pics of the country you hunt! I imagine it is pretty there.

Great Ram,

J
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Falk on June 16, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
Nice - I like the Mufflon! At least some Europeans are allowed to have a little fun ...

You titled your post "Thanks you Doc Ashby" and not only because of that I can't do otherwise then ask, why you used LW feathers with a RW Grizzly?!

 ;)  
Falk
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Falk on June 16, 2008, 08:21:00 AM
double post - mods please delete!
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 16, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
Hello Falk, because i made an order mistake on this feather and the shop was on the other side of a big amount of water  ...

By mistake i glued them like right wing ...

A  friend of mine said to me the same thing and i change everything already ...

Imagine the result with a good RW feather !!!!  ...

i keep those LW now for the LW SB No mercy for Roe Deer in july ...  Wait and see !
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 16, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
a picture of a typical place during a scouting WE with familly and friends this spring ...


Normaly you can't go with a car, it's forbiden.

But the sheperd is a friend and i'm helping him time to time to bring heavy things in this place  

During the winter it's can be a lot of snow ...

 (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/CAMP2.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Kingwouldbe on June 16, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
David, do you have any pic's of the entrance or exit wound?

Thanks
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on June 16, 2008, 03:55:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by kibok&ko:
a picture of a typical place during a scouting WE with familly and friends this spring ...


Normaly you can't go with a car, it's forbiden.

But the sheperd is a friend and i'm helping him time to time to bring heavy things in this place  

During the winter it's can be a lot of snow ...

  (http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/CAMP2.jpg)
of course to go up there to camp with a car you need a real one, an english aloy "cube"   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on July 06, 2008, 03:52:00 AM
for KWB,a friend of mine have a pic of the exit hole

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn293/lossogwan/sortie.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Featherbuster on July 06, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
Great pictures!!!!
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Post by: Ian johnson on July 06, 2008, 10:31:00 AM
nice shot what other things can you hunt there?
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Post by: George D. Stout on July 06, 2008, 12:13:00 PM
That's some fine looking protein there too I might add.   Great to hear experiences from our European brothers.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: bob@helleknife.com on July 06, 2008, 01:22:00 PM
Great job!

Looks like a wonderful place to hunt.

Bob
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Doc Nock on July 07, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
EFOC w/ carbons kinda required screw in adapters for BH's...till I found on Kustom King these nifty brass inserts like I now use...but these take it one step farther...they are a unitized brass insert with a glue on 5 degree bevel.

75 gr fits the 5/16" ferrule and the 100 and 125 fit the 11/32" ferrule, according to an email reply to that question to Kustom King.


Those danged li'l aluminum bh adapters always freaked me out...they seem to vary in size and weight a LOT... and they offer a weak link on a strong, bone cutting broadhead... I wonder if the solid brass insert w/ bh adapter as a unit will help?
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Doc Nock on July 07, 2008, 02:47:00 PM
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm292/DavidLandis/BHadapter.jpg)

Hope this works... the li'l BH adapter and brass insert combo...  :)
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: OkKeith on July 07, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
Doc Nock,

Looks like a strong system. I have one question though, would you need to use glue-on target points (of same or similar weight) for practice? I'm not real big on day-to-day practice with broadheads but want to use an arrow with as close to the same weight as my hunting arrows. I do practice with the broadhead arrows, but not all the time, every day.

What do ya think?

OkKeith
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Doc Nock on July 07, 2008, 04:50:00 PM
Keith,

Ya can't catch fish sleepin!   :knothead:    :D  

(ya'd have to check his profile to know)

I hear ya. I'm currently using 100 gr. brass threaded inserts and screw in heads...

After finding those on KK, I kinda got to thinkin... I might have the threaded 100 gr. brass insert for practice to use the screw in field points...and then have those set ups for my hunting arrows w/ broadheads...???

Just toyin and love to get opinions...but don't want to hijack the thread... just thought it sorta added to

...but to your pointed question, you could use glue on practice points... My situation requires 160 practice and so far, I can't find em anywhere...so I use 145 and 3 5gr. brass washers... so I'd have to keep that up, huh cause I've not found glue on 160's either!?
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: BobCo 1965 on July 07, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
Very nice!!!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: OkKeith on July 07, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
Doc Nock,

That was just a nap due to being worn out from catching them all!

Your idea sounds good. I believe that Dr. Ashby said that the broadhead to arrow connection was a weak spot in the arrow. I don't see why you couldn't figure a way to use glue-ons with some added weight some how for parity. I commonly use the screw in addaptors for broadheads. I really like the Ace heads. I get the 125 grn. heads and use a sturdy 50 grn. addaptor, for a total weight of 175. I have a long draw and use full length arrows with 5 inch or sometimes 5&1/2 inch shield cuts. These fly really well for me in several bow setups. Good luck with the experiment and try and have fun now..OK?

OkKeith
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Ol'school on July 07, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
Very nice! Love those Grizzly's
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on September 16, 2008, 09:29:00 AM
up , smaller than a big tembo but i think "le doc" it's also a part of it !
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Post by: Horne Shooter on September 16, 2008, 09:57:00 AM
Good stuff...thanks for sharing!
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Post by: Izzy on September 16, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
Nice animal.
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on September 17, 2008, 05:56:00 AM
thank's you Doc you're a big part of it !
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: Dr. Ed Ashby on September 17, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
And here's a public "Thank You" to you David, for the copies of the photos you emailed me. They are great.

Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
Title: Re: Thanks you Doc Ashby !
Post by: kibok&ko on September 18, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
de nada