i was wondering if any trad guys in missouri know of any good places where there is a high concentration of feral hogs with good chance of succsses. me and jds3 from the gang would jump at a chance for a hog hunt in mo if anybody knows or has some of ther property and want them removed pm me thanks john
also any other trad guys are welcome to come if we can find a place to go to get us missouri trad guys toghter
Wish I could join. There used to be a bunch at FT Leonard wood, but i beleive they killed them all.
Best place I've heard of so far is Lake Wappapello. Some of the Southeast Mo. Boys have had a couple hunts down there the past couple years. They say there is hog sign around the lake but no one has scored yet.
I've heard there is some around Truman Lake in Henry and St. Clair counties, but I haven't had a chance to even go look.
Yes there are hogs at Lake Wappapello. I Corps will help you in any way they can if you call and ask them. They will try and get you close to and hogs at least where they last knew they were. And you can kill as many as you want if you find them. A friend of my dads hunts them on his land from horses with dogs. They kill 15 one weekend I think. In the Wappapello area.
so if i could orginize a trip dowmto wappapello would any body be intrested in going and is I corps like the army core of enigneers like at lake truman so if any body is serious i would like to get this trip toghter i hate not having anything except swuriells to hunt during the summer here in mo
If you go to the missouri conservation site there is information on feral hogs. Last I heard there was supposed to be quite a few around the warrensburg sedalia area. Ft. Leanord Wood was another area you could get in to hunt on as well.
There are also isolated populations in Iron and Reynolds counties, I would be interested in a hunt but would prefer cooler weather. I have hunted hogs in the summer and it can get pretty miserable! Maybe a combo Deer/Hog expedition in the early fall?
Bob
Yes i ment army corps sorry
I would be game. I am a away at school but only 3.5 hours away from Wappapello.
I am about 4 from Wappapello. Would need to know well ahead of time and have to be on a saturday, plus i would still have to get a bow.
Lets make this happen. I want to suggest a Hog/Squirrel combo hunt. We can hunt, stump shoot and camp. Bring the family; more the better. There should be public ground with camping somewhere close.
It doesn't have to be 4 hours away. Lets get some info about around Ft. Wood. A Conservation agent told me that there are hogs around the Ft. Leonard Wood area.
goodoldboy- try to get ahold of the MDC. I'm for sure in when we can get the details.
JDSIII
Well, if you guys decide to try it in the Ft. Wood area, I can do a little scouting and talk to a few guys I know who've killed hogs up there. No promises, because the way I've heard it, it's feast or famine.
I'll make some inquiries in the next few days and post here. What kind of time frame were you thinking about, John? Got any dates in mind???
One thing is for certain... BRING TICK SPRAY!!! :biglaugh:
No matter what i am at least 4 hours away i am living in Mississippi right now but i am Missouri born a bred still have Missouri Drivers licince and car tags.
ft leprnard wood sounds good to me i will try and get it orginized and if any one can help and tell us where there are any good conservation lands down there orif any one has private ground taht would allow us to hunt that would be even better
29% DEET, will not leave home without it.. Ha
goodoldboy let us know. I'm in for sure whenever you all can make it.
What dates seem to work for everyone? I'm more or less open to any other than the third week of August I have to be out of state.
Sanderlin III
I think some MO guys put something together about a year and a half ago and I couldn't make it at the time. Seems like one of the guys heading it up was 'citori'. I'd be up for it this time depending on the date(s).
I am in
Scott
well any body who is serious about going lets set a date that can work for everybody it will be on a weekend like get there friday nite set up then go after it in all day saturday and sunday then leave sunday afternoon any body who is serious pm me the dates that would work fo you so ican get this thing organized
The ground work is being done. We should know "where" we are hog hunting soon.
John III
Well, I'd been exchanging some PM's with John (JDS3) about a couple of places here in north Texas County. I've made arrangements to meet with a person who's been trapping piggies for the Conservation Dept. on Tuesday, June 24. We're going to go to an area where they've trapped pigs and have taken several game camera pics in the past. According to my friend, there are tons of pigs in the area, and it's all public land.
So... If no one has a better idea, I will report back here after next Tuesday, and we can start thinking about getting some dates set. I'll know more after looking it over, but I can tell you now that it's walk-in only, and the most likely area will be a little less than a mile from the nearest public road.
Curtis
Curtis,
Thank you again for all the "work" getting us set up.. Walking in just makes it better. I will not have to see or hear any 4 wheelers or people out bird watching..LOL
When you know for sure I will get an area map to make a plan with.
I hope you find good sign and then we can all get after them.
thank you very much curtis and we planned on camping out anyway so that makes it even better as long as it is legal to camp there
Put me down as another guy who is very interested. I'll be looking for info when you guys decide on some dates.
are you thinking paddy creek? any where south of post should give you as good a chance as anywhere.You cant camp on post but you could always make a day of it..
Geno, the area I'm going to scout Tuesday is known as "Tie-Slide". It's only about 4 road miles from the Paddy Creek Campground, and probably about 2 miles through the woods. There's an old creek slough near Tie-Slide where the hogs are supposed to hang out quite a bit.
Given what little I know now, I think the biggest obstacle will be whether or not the hogs are moving during daylight hours. It has been hunted in the past, but not by me. If the scouting trip doesn't look favorable, I'll post that and if someone wants to suggest an alternate location, it won't hurt my feelings.
Well, I'm seeing this kind of late but if the Ft. Leonard Wood location doesn't look good for some reason I can take a look at Lake Wappapello.
Seein' as I only live about 15 minutes from it, it's not much trouble. I helped with some of the grunt work for the 1st SEMO Hog Hunt. I wasn't able to make the actual hunt because of work commitments. I'll tell ya though, hog hunting around the lake is tough. They get pressured pretty hard as I understand it & are mostly nocturnal. I've seen lots of sign but I've yet to see a hog, plus it's been a while since I've been up there specifically intent on pursuing hogs so some things may have changed.
There is lots of camping opportunity around the lake on Corp. owned campgrounds plus Miller's Motor Lodge is there if you want to rent a motel room. Poplar Bluff is a short 15 minute drive as well and it has lots of motel rooms. Seeing as I live here, if you guys start to lean back towards the Lake Wappapello location let me know & I'll see what kind of up to date info I can get together.
I should add that Paddy Creek Campground is primitive camping only. They have toilets, but if you want electric/water/etc. hookups, you'd have to go to Licking, MO, which is about 10-15 minutes away. There should always be motel rooms available in Licking as well. There may be camper hookups at Deer Lick Park, but I'll have to check on that.
I was afraid I'd forget to mention that later, so there it is. :cool:
I'll check on getting some area maps if the final decision is made to try it here.
I might be persuaded to join in. I live in Central AR, I also have 100 acres in Dade County, but no hogs in this part of SW MO, at least we never seen any around my place.
Let me know goodoldboy?
Barry
once we get the where we I will try to get a date toghter that will accomadate as many people as possible
Let me know if I can help with anything! I can probably make it if I get a little advance notice, camping is good for me. Sounds like a good time.
Bob
Guys,
Better shoot for Lake Wappapello...I think hogs have been succesfully eradicated from Ft Leonard Wood (at least untill someone illegally releases some more).
I attended the Feral Hog Conference that was held in St. Louis in April and the Area Biologist at Wood said there were no hogs at present time.
Hog hunting in Missouri is definitely more famine than feast. I'd take along a fishing rod and a .22 cal. for squirrell hunting if you want to eat fresh game in camp.
Trap
Im in...I wish we could get everyone to leave them alone for 2 years...then there would be plenty and we could have more gang hunts like this...I have no desire to see them killed out
Well, I have news, but it's not very good.
I spent a couple hours walking around the tie-slide area today, and I did see some some sign. Hundreds of tracks, and a few rubs. Very little rooting. The problem is, the sign is very scattered, and the vegetation there is just horrendous. There were several large bottom fields that might be possible to spot & stalk, but you'd just have to look for moving grass, because it's waist high or better. The old slough I had high hopes for is so dense that there are many areas where visibility is about 10-20 feet.
Compounding the flora problems, is the fact that there is water everywhere. No isolated areas where the hogs will congregate to water and wallow. I'm convinced this will be a good area in maybe August or later, but for now, it would just be blind luck to see a pig.
I'd still be glad to help with logistics if you guys want to camp and hunt in the area, but my hopes for success, at least for now, are greatly diminished.
Some good news is, from what I saw there are still a good number of pigs. I just think it won't be very good hunting for a while. I looked at some pictures from when the Conservation Dept. was trapping there in February, and you'd swear it was on a different planet! I think it would take a lot of bait, or some dogs, to make this a feasible hunt right now.
I might add that there are literally thousands of acres of forestry service land in mature timber that would be available to hunt, but again, finding pigs in that much area might prove difficult.
Feral Hogs are destuctive and detrimental to native flora and fauna. It will probably never happen, but the sooner they are erradicated the better in my opinion.
Feral Hogs are being released under the cover of darkness on public land in Missouri so they can be hunted by selfish violators that call themselves sportsmen. If they were to release them on private land they wouldnt be able to hunt them without trespassing and if caught in the act of releasing them on private they might get shot.
You can bet that landowners and land managers that are managing for native Missouri species such white-tailed deer and wild turkeys don't have much use for them.
Not saying you should or shouldnt hunt them. Kill all you can. A dead hog is a good hog IMO.
I'd hate to hear Missouri commonly referred to as a "Hog-Hunting" state. (we're not there yet and it will be a sad day when we are) Sure, a few hogs are killed in Missouri by hunters, More are killed by the scumbags that are releasing them illegally and charging people to come hunt them behind their dogs. Even more are being killed by employees of state and federal agencies as part of a statewide erradication program.
The only way to truly solve the problem would be to make the hunting of feral hogs illegal, thus taking away the commercial incentive of those that are illegally releasing them for their own monetary gain. Kansas has done this and they still have alot of hogs to kill but at least the illegal release has been minimized.
Sorry to hijack a thread but when I hear people encouraging the building up of a feral hog population it makes me wonder if those same people have thought it through. They arent landowners I can assure you. Maybe they could just care-less about habitat that is unique to the Missouri Ozarks and the native wildlife that resides there.
Like I said in a previous post, if you want to experience the Missouri Ozarks why not grab a fishing pole and a "Rebel Crawdad" and go catch a nice Smallmouth or two. Or better yet, take a kid huntin and put some young of the year Fox Squirrels in the game bag and on the grill.
This obsessive desire to hunt "Big" game even if it's a non native horribly destructive disease ridden and carrying POS Hog has me a more than a little concerned.
Respectfully submitted and awaiting a wave of criticism, Daryl Damron
Trap, I tend to agree with you. You have to admit a little that it would be nice to have some hogs to shoot. I have seen the destruction hogs can do to land because when I lived in Georgia and had a quail lease in southwest Georgia The rooting was unbelieveable. The thing about it though you never hear people from the south complaining too much about them unless they are on their land.
I'm kind of divided. It would be nice to be able to shoot wild hogs, but then again the destruction they do is not good.
Sounds to me the area Curtis was talking about is the best option to go try for them other than Wappapello. I like to try and go down there later this summer or early september if I can get away.
QuoteOriginally posted by TRAP:
Sorry to hijack a thread but when I hear people encouraging the building up of a feral hog population it makes me wonder if those same people have thought it through. They arent landowners I can assure you. Maybe they could just care-less about habitat that is unique to the Missouri Ozarks and the native wildlife that resides there.
Like I said in a previous post, if you want to experience the Missouri Ozarks why not grab a fishing pole and a "Rebel Crawdad" and go catch a nice Smallmouth or two. Or better yet, take a kid huntin and put some young of the year Fox Squirrels in the game bag and on the grill.
This obsessive desire to hunt "Big" game even if it's a non native horribly destructive disease ridden and carrying POS Hog has me a more than a little concerned.
Respectfully submitted and awaiting a wave of criticism, Daryl Damron
Daryl,
I'm not going to criticize you or your beliefs, but simply say I disagree with you on making hunting illegal for existing hog populations. Also, I don't believe anyone on this thread, to this point, has advocated the illegal release of hogs into the wild. The fact of the matter is, we have feral hogs in parts of our state, and they breed like rats.
If you are truly sorry to hijack this thread, you could always post your thoughts in the "Hunting Issues and Politics" forum.
Curtis,
I'm quite certain I never accused anyone that has posted on this thread of advocating the "release" of feral hogs, but someone mentioned leaving them alone for a couple years so their population would grow so we'd have plenty for gang hunts like this.
It was my intention to simply point out the negatives of this train of thought
I'd love to get together with a bunch of guys and go hunt them someplace they are more abundant and accepted as wild game. Anybody want to make a trip to Texas? Better yet, how about Hawaii where feral hogs have denuded 70% of native flora and caused hundreds of plant species to become extinct.
I'll take your advice and start a thread in the "Hunting Issues and Politics" forum and maybe we can all get to the "ROOT" (no pun intended) of the Missouri feral hog issue.
Daryl
Curtis,
Thanks for the legwork down in the brush. All I know is that we can't kill a hog in the house. Lets let it dry up a bit and go get after them some weekend in July. It HAS to quit raining sometime soon. We can do pushes, ect trying to get the hogs moving. This can be a hog drive/squirrel/stump shooting Missouri trad gang guy weekend... LOL
I'm all for it. Goodoldboy get a weekend picked and we will see who can make it. I'm in for anyweekend between now and August 15th.
Again Curtis thanks for the scouting down there.
John III
i understand familytime and depends on the weather it is supposed to be hot the next couple of weeks so what a bout the 4th of july weekend i know myself i have a threeday weekend for the 4th and what is more american than trad guys on a hog hunt to defend missouri lands from the destruction caused by these feral hogs and if anything squirells are in season so if you think that weekend will work for you let me know if not we can set another date
Thank you curtis for all the hard work you put in to trying to get this off the ground
Well, I'm certainly NOT asking anyone to conform to my schedule, but I'll have to work July 4th weekend. The next one I have off is the weekend of the 19th, but that's MOJAM IIRC...
The weekend of July 26 might work for me, but again, whatever suits the rest of you is fine with me. I live close enough I can go anytime, so don't worry about that. I'll still be glad to help in any way possible.
John & Curtis... You two pick a weekend. The 26th works well for me.. I too have to work over the 4th. But,, any weekend you two pick I will make it work..
Lets go chase some hogs.. Make a weekend "official" and we will get everybody on board.
John III
hay curtis i live north of willow springs on 137, if you get somthing going let me know.just not in the heat of the summer. loyd
Problem around the lake wapapello area is they are hunted hard by locals with dogs and pickups. So they are mostly nocturnal. We have been down ther a few times and they are spooky, real hard to hunt. Pm me if i can tell you anything else.JIM
Soooo... John H, what do you think about a date and/or location? Only thing I can promise anytime soon is heat and humidity here. :saywhat:
One benefit of doing it early is the dog/gun hunters might be less inclined to crash our little party. Wait a little latter, you have the possibility of dryer weather and the chance to hunt water. Everything's a trade-off. Shot several hours in the back yard yesterday in semi-comfortable conditions. The mosquitoes must have all morphed overnight, cuz they about carried me off today... :biglaugh:
Only thing I know for sure is that I would welcome the chance to get together with some of you guys and hunt. Squirrels, hogs, whatever... Just say when!!!
i am ok with what ever worrks for most people and i would say lets try fort leonard wood are i mean we can always get lucky if not we can have a camp out and stump/ squurrel hunting weekend, i wiill just be happy to be able to bring borthers of the bow toghter for a weekend so what work dates will work for the people who wana go
I kicked one up a couple of yrs ago on the ft. I have rabbit hunted alot down there.There is a place to camp there that is not on post but right outside a small west gate..
Went through Houston yesterday Curtis on the way to Ava. Always keeping an eye out for ya.My son and I would have enjoyed stopping by and taking some lessons. :)
G
Dang, Geno... Didn't know you were wealthy enough to take lessons from me!!! There's no charge for the experience, but I'm assuming you know the only "lessons" I teach are on how to lose arra's! :biglaugh: