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Title: Step through or stringer?
Post by: kolt on June 09, 2008, 06:16:00 PM
I came across a site the other day that said the step through method of stringing a bow is bad for the bow and unsafe. I have a stringer but lately just use the step through cause its quicker. What do ya'll use?
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Post by: Killdeer on June 09, 2008, 06:20:00 PM
I grew up using the step through, but use a stringer now. Looking at a lot of old lower limbs convinced me.

Killdeer  :wavey:
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Post by: sonofabuck on June 09, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
Stringer
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Post by: KYArcher on June 09, 2008, 06:37:00 PM
Stringer Always!
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Post by: VA Bowbender on June 09, 2008, 06:42:00 PM
Be safe use a stringer.  You'll be less likely to twist a limb.  Most if not all new bows come with a stringer, why do you think that is?  Like Killdeer said, I too grew up stepping through but I don't anymore.  Mostly because I don't want to hurt my bows with a slip.
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Post by: horatio1226 on June 09, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
Once my bows started getting nicer ( and more expensive) I found myself using a stringer more.
Brian
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Post by: b.glass on June 09, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
I've heard of someone who lost an eye stringing a bow without a stringer. May not have been the step through method but a strong point for using a stringer.
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Post by: Kevin L. on June 09, 2008, 06:50:00 PM
Always a stringer. I have extras in the truck and in my pack, so I always have one when I need it.
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Post by: smokin joe on June 09, 2008, 06:54:00 PM
Save your bow -- use a stringer.
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Post by: WidowEater on June 09, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
i was taught with step through and as soon as i saw a stringer being used I thought, "that looks better"

as for the guy who lost and eye that might just be an urban legend bc it seems like that story comes back around every once in a while, but i guess Jesus told parables for a reason
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Post by: UKarcher on June 09, 2008, 07:08:00 PM
It's no urban legend. I have actually had to administer first aid on a woman who had the limb tip  smack her in the eye. She didn't lose the eye, but she split the eyelid from her eyebrow to the lashes. While we were waiting for the ambulance she went into shock. Seems to me to be a lot of anguish for not using a stringer.
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Post by: Dave Worden on June 09, 2008, 07:14:00 PM
My understanding is this.  Never use step through on a recurve as it can twist a limb.  Longbows, on the other hand, have thick, narrow limbs and step through won't hurt them.  The "eye problem" is with the push-pull method sometimes used on recurves (and, I guess, on longbows too).  It can also damage your shin if the bottom end slips out.  I can attest to that issue.  Soooooo, with all that being said, I use a stringer (most of the time!)
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Post by: stmpthmpr on June 09, 2008, 07:22:00 PM
No comment! LOL!!
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Post by: John Krause on June 09, 2008, 07:25:00 PM
I have been using step thru for many years and haven't ever had a problem. Maybe a couple of times in 25 years but never even came close to ruining a bow or getting hurt.  I look at guy's bows who use a stringer religously and can see the limb twistwhen it is strung up. Mine all look good.  Whenever I watch someone use a stringer it hurts to watch. I step thru all bows but will unstring a longbow push pull unless it is really heavy. If you have a rubber tip cover over the bottom limb it helps alot so the loop doesn't come undone. Just another gadget in my book.
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Post by: wingnut on June 09, 2008, 07:30:00 PM
NEVER USE A STEP THROUGH METHOD ON AN ALL NATURAL BOW!!!!

It is the quickest way to ruin one next to dry firing.  In fact, I'll bet more are ruined with step through then dry firing.

You can twist a limb the first time you do it.

Push/Pull or use a stringer.

Mike
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Post by: mmgrode on June 09, 2008, 07:46:00 PM
I use both the stringer and the step through method at different times.  I have run into problems if I step through on highly r/d bows.  However, I have one bow I have probably strung up hundreds(if not a thousand) of times and it lines up just like when I finished it.  Hey, when I'm out in the woods and I don't have a stringer, that bow still needs to get a string on it!  However, I do think a stringer is safer for both you(compared to push/pull) and the bow. If you got one with you you might as well use it.  If you don't, well I'll still go hunting!  Matt
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Post by: frassettor on June 09, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
Stringer always  :)
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Post by: WildmanSC on June 09, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
I always have a stringer with me and I always use it.  It makes my skin crawl when I see folk stringing their bow using the step through method.  There's too much of a chance of twisting a limb.  I recently purchased a bowstringer strap from Alaska Bowhunting Supply.  I wish I would have had it in IL last year.  I would not have experienced the problems with one longbow that I has to string and unstring in the morning, and in the evening, too.  My Selway stringer kept slipping off the upper limb.  I had a dryfire in essence on two or three occasions.

Bill
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Post by: Widowbender on June 09, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
Stringer...Always

David
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Post by: Dutchman on June 10, 2008, 08:59:00 AM
I used the step-though when my I was a kid and didn't know better.

I use a stringer exclusively now.
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Post by: TXRED on June 10, 2008, 09:18:00 AM
Stringer... for me & my bows.
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Post by: robtattoo on June 10, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
I always push/pull longbows, stringer for 'curves (now, after nearly losing an eye!)
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Post by: Benha on June 10, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
Stringer for everything.
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Post by: VA Bowbender on June 10, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
When I went to the Baltimore Trad Classic, Byron Ferguson was there.  I was very surprised to see him use the push/pull method.  Granted he does use a longbow, but with all the children there watching I thought he should teach by example.
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Post by: George D. Stout on June 10, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
I see nothing wrong with the push/pull method for longbows.  It is an option that should be taught.  If done properly, with safety in mind, it's as safe as a bow stringer.  I've seen two different bows go flying from bowstringers not seated correctly on the lower limb.

We need to revisit common sense.  You don't need to stop something because someone was careless.  You stress safety from the beginning.  I've never had an issue with push pull on longbows and think it's the best way to string them.  Now recurves?   They are best strung with a bowstringer...one that fits the bow and is also used properly.  

I quit stringing bows by the step through method in the 1970's.  That can bend limbs and make ugly shin music as well 8^).
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on June 10, 2008, 02:23:00 PM
Push/pull everytime.  It's very controllable, loads the limbs evenly and I never leave my push/pull in the truck by accident.

George is right.  Someone getting hurt stringing a bow is a reason to pay attention to what you are doing, not to stop stringing bows.
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Post by: wingnut on June 10, 2008, 02:39:00 PM
Yep George!!  I push / pull 100s of times a year.  Always on a longbow, never on a Curve.

Heck we are so strong about it, that we give a free stringer with every curve we sell.

Mike
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Post by: Davie C. on June 10, 2008, 11:56:00 PM
push pull for me.

Step through is sketchy as hell. I wouldn't do that with any bow.
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Post by: WDP on June 11, 2008, 02:27:00 AM
Before I started flinging arrows a coworker here at our company back in '73 was stringing his longbow with the push pull. Well the string didn't get in the groove correctly and when he went to get a closer look it released. The lower limb was on the ground so it jumped and the upper limb went into the upper part of the eye socket which popped out the eye. He lost sight in that eye but returned to work till he passed away years later. He still shot after the accident but used a stringer. I on the other hand use the step thru.
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Post by: stmpthmpr on June 11, 2008, 02:50:00 AM
Changed my mind...I WILL comment.

First, no matter what method is used, there should be a tip protector on the bottom tip. I like the rubber ones as they are real tight. I do however take them off if Ive been out in real wet weather, just to ensure that moisture doesnt get in and get trapped.

With a rubber tip protector, I am confident that I only need to be concerned with getting the string in the nock Im looking at.

I step-through on my heavy 68" and 70" longbows. Id push-pull but my arms arent that long and its hard on the back. On a glass laminated bow, it's a wives tale that you can cause limb twist. If that were the case, they would take a set as well... and they dont.

Push-pull is my method of choice.
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Post by: Recurve50 LBS on June 11, 2008, 06:12:00 AM
I like my bows so I always use a stringer. I pack an extra string and a stringer in my day pack just in case I need to replace the string.
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on June 11, 2008, 06:18:00 AM
Always a stringer for recurves and push/pull for longbows.  

I don't own a stringer.

:D
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Post by: LEOPARD on June 11, 2008, 06:28:00 AM
I always use a stringer on my recurve, and use a stringer MOST of the time on my longbow (I do sometimes use the step thru method on it tho).
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Post by: wingnut on June 11, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
Randell,

If you don't think a glass bow will take set, leave your best longbow recurve standing in a corner for a couple of months.  The limb lean is because the wood core took set.  The same thing happens all the time with "step through" recurves.  A lot of time they can be fixed fairly easy.  But twisting the limb while pulling it up to string will "set" the limb on a glass bow.

Of course on an all natural bow, you can ruin it with one bad move.

Mike
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Post by: UKarcher on June 11, 2008, 09:19:00 AM
For the amount of cash we spend on our archery equipment, spending a few dollars on something that will keep us safe, prevent damage to the bow and can be rolled up and stuck in your back pocket does not seem too drastic.
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Post by: Chris Surtees on June 11, 2008, 09:40:00 AM
I always use a stringer.

Not using one voids some bows warranty as well.
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Post by: Flinttim on June 11, 2008, 11:47:00 AM
I can push / pull my longbows up to about 60# but after that I have to use a stringer. Just the way I'm built or weak I guess. All recurves use a stringer.
Also I would not use a block type stringer on any selfbow or all wood bow. Unless of course you really like hinges. Don't ask how I know.
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Post by: Chad Sivertsen on June 11, 2008, 05:38:00 PM
I prefer the push/pull method but like Tim can only do it with my shorter bows under 60#.

I use a stringer most of the time and only use the kind with pouches for both tips.
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Post by: WidowEater on June 11, 2008, 07:14:00 PM
what does the block type stringer do to longbows??
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Post by: flatbowMB on June 12, 2008, 01:28:00 AM
Recurve:  Always use a stringer

Long bow:  A stringer or push/pull is fine.  If using push pull, be sure that you position your body so that your head is not in line with the bending limbs.