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Title: arrow grouping
Post by: texas terror on June 08, 2008, 09:35:00 PM
new arrows are grouping left need some input to help. thanks
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: HATCHCHASER on June 08, 2008, 10:37:00 PM
Sound stiff if you are a righty.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on June 09, 2008, 12:21:00 AM
Just grouping left, or nock left? If your group is left but arrows are straight in the target,  maybe put your nock point a tad higher. If your nocks are left, then hatchchaser's advice is likely. This is just from my experience. I'm no expert.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Shawn Rackley on June 09, 2008, 12:24:00 AM
i am actually having the same problem.
i just bought some easton epic 600.
im gonna try raising my nock point tommorow.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: LKH on June 09, 2008, 02:24:00 AM
Did you bare shaft before fletching?  I spent a lot of money on carbons.  Would get them the length I wanted and then fletch.  Took this slow learner a while to realize I had to bareshaft, especially w/my 27" draw.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: John3 on June 09, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
If the arrows are fletched and grouping left you are for sure too stiff...

Increase point weight or increase brace height.

Need more info, bow weight, draw length, ect..
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: texas terror on June 09, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
the bow is a pse sequoia longbow at 50#. im shooting beman ics 500 @30 inches with a 100 grain tip. just to be clear i should increase my brace height from 6.5 to maybe 7? or decrease?
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Apex Predator on June 09, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
You are gonna need about 200-300 point weight to make those soften up some.  They are too stiff.  At least this is my take on it.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: James Wrenn on June 09, 2008, 09:00:00 PM
Well how much left and at what distance would tell more.Just try some heavier points on your arrows and see if they go back where they belong.They might be a little stiff but at that length it should not take much to bring them around for a 50lb bow.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Traditional-Archer on June 09, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
Check out O.L. sight and you can see you are weak spined, there is all kinds of good information for you on O.L sight .http://www.bowmaker.net/index2.htm
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: texas terror on June 09, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
i think that chart means that your nock is left
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Outwest on June 09, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
Can increasing brace height really loosen up an arrow?

John
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Traditional-Archer on June 09, 2008, 09:47:00 PM
Quote: If the arrow is too weak or stiff, the oscillations are unequal, the arrow will swing more to one side than the other, causing the arrow to plane off line in that direction, away from where it was pointed. This mis-matched situation may be hardly noticeable with field tips or target points, but broadheads will magnify the problem greatly! Let's take a look at the factors involved with properly tuning your equipment and adjustments to make that will get them flying correctly.
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: BLACK WOLF on June 09, 2008, 10:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Outwest:
Can increasing brace height really loosen up an arrow?

John
Higher brace height requires a stiffer arrow...so if your arrows are showing slightly stiff...one of the ways you can correct it is by increasing your bow's brace height.

You can fine tune your set-up with brace height but it won't make HUGE changes.

Ray       ;)
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: BRITTMAN on June 09, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
Forgive me if Im wrong but you want to decrease brace height for to stiff of an arrow to give it more energy/speed , and for a weak spine increase brace to decrease energy/speed . I could be wrong but thats what I have always thought and used while tuning .

Mike
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on June 10, 2008, 05:31:00 AM
aim more to the right...........

(sorry, couldn't help myself)

 :)
Title: Re: arrow grouping
Post by: BLACK WOLF on June 10, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
Brittman,

That's what I use to think...but it's actually the opposite.

Ray  ;)