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Title: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: skychief on June 05, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
I don't see it now.   It was near "trad events" and I had a thread or two on it.   Am I missing something?   Wouldn't be the first time!   Thanks.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Curtis Haden on June 06, 2008, 12:25:00 AM
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Terry Green on June 06, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
The Shooters Forum was closed.

In the last couple of weeks it became a battle ground for personal combat that drifted over from other sites.

It was a total distraction from the helpful friendly forum it once was.

I'll deal with it later, when I'm in a better frame of mind to do so.

Thanks for concern, and to all those that emailed me with your comments and concerns regarding this  matter.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: no on June 06, 2008, 10:20:00 PM
Thats too bad, there used to be some good stuff on there & was helpful when I started shooting. Mike
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Widowbender on June 06, 2008, 11:06:00 PM
Man I hate when Folks goof up a good thing...   :banghead:
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Stumpknocker on June 07, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
Well, I guess I missed all that in the middle of St. Judes.  Sounds like some folks need to get their heads on straight.  That forum really helped me with moving towards working the kinks out of my form, not that I'm done yet!  Terry, your vids and advice on form were so much help, too.  Also, those threads re target panic showed me the value of coming to full draw and really feeling what I was doing.  I still practice a rapid anchor-release in anticipation of those quick hog hunting shots, but also now incorporate into every session the act of just coming to full draw and holding there.  These drills really make me feel like I just might break through a plateau this summer.  All this I learned here.  Sorry to ramble on, but you guys have really helped me with the info in the Shooter's Forum, so there's my 2c worth.  Thanks again for such a great site, Tge
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: horatio1226 on June 07, 2008, 05:15:00 AM
That crap will ruin our site as evidenced by the removal of a great forum. Hopefully there is a way to deal with these people without shutting down our forums. Sorry you have to babysit Terry.
Nothing worse than having to babysit infantile adults. Jeez!
Brian
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Sharpster on June 07, 2008, 06:59:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by horatio1226:
That crap will ruin our site as evidenced by the removal of a great forum. Hopefully there is a way to deal with these people without shutting down our forums. Sorry you have to babysit Terry.
Nothing worse than having to babysit infantile adults. Jeez!
Brian
Very well said Brian,

We looked long and hard at all the traditional sites before choosing one to sponsor. We chose TradGang for exactly these reasons. There are many, many great guys/gals here who get along very well. While occasional disagreements are inevitable, it's very rare to hear disrespectful, argumentative posts and personal attacks are virtually non-existent here.   :thumbsup:  

While I didn't see any of the threads in question, Terry, it's to your credit that you nipped this in the bud. I'm sure that you'll come up with a resolution to this situation that's far better than the standard "Sorry, this topic has been closed" that some other site's moderators seem to enjoy using.

While I'm at it, I'd like to thank each and every member, moderator and sponsor for keeping TG the most respected trad site there is. It's because of you that we are a PROUD sponsor!

Ron
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: ber643 on June 07, 2008, 07:54:00 AM
That's too bad - I missed all of it too but glad I did. St. Jude was more important at the time. That was always a great forum but sometimes, some folks, get rally puffy about "Their way".
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: David Mitchell on June 07, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
Why, oh why, do some people get so bent out of shape over how one shoots a bow and arrow?  You would think it is a matter of the most grave importance rather than something we do for fun and recreation.  As stated above, some people need to get their heads on straight!.....Dave
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: shamus on June 07, 2008, 10:04:00 AM
looks  I missed the meltdown.

It's a shame when people pee in the pool.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: jacobsladder on June 07, 2008, 10:28:00 AM
traditional archery is completely a personal thing...not one bow is better than another, not one shooting form is better than another, not one way of aiming is better than another.... it is how much we are willing to practice with our choice of equipment and shooting method to pursue consistancy..... the one whos form, aiming method, anchor, and release is the most consistant will be the best shooter...that is why the fellows that have this figured out can pick up any bow and shoot well.... the bow and matched arrow will always out shoot the shooter...
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: NDTerminator on June 07, 2008, 08:39:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
The Shooters Forum was closed.

In the last couple of weeks it became a battle ground for personal combat that drifted over from other sites.

It was a total distraction from the helpful friendly forum it once was.

I'll deal with it later, when I'm in a better frame of mind to do so.

Thanks for concern, and to all those that emailed me with your comments and concerns regarding this  matter.
Dang, what in the world is there to fight about shooting a flippin' bow?!!!
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: skychief on June 07, 2008, 09:25:00 PM
Thanks Terry for the reply.   What a bummer.   I was getting some good help from the shooter's forum.   Thanks again and good luck cleaning up what needs cleaning.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: 2-BIG on June 08, 2008, 07:10:00 AM
Lets give the "combatants" a time out from the tradgang so the rest of us can enjoy the help on that forum.  :)
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: horatio1226 on June 08, 2008, 07:23:00 AM
I agree. Instead of everybody suffering, how about the people that can't show respect suffering!  :knothead:
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: frassettor on June 08, 2008, 08:01:00 AM
Thats to bad, I liked that forum alot. Don't know why some fellas have to mess up a good thing   :banghead:      :mad:
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: frassettor on June 08, 2008, 08:06:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sharpster:
QuoteOriginally posted by horatio1226:
While I'm at it, I'd like to thank each and every member, moderator and sponsor for keeping TG the most respected trad site there is. It's because of you that we are a PROUD sponsor!

Ron [/b]
Thanks for being here Ron, and nicely said  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: smilinicon on June 08, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
bad call. the site is worse for losing the Shooter's forum. I saw posts that helped shooters learn to shoot and did not dwell on what one person thought was so terrible that he had to take his ball and go home like a selfish child.


yeah, I'm pissed...
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Billy on June 08, 2008, 08:47:00 AM
the mods have SO much to do , just to keep this site open for ALL of US to enjoy and gain from...
Terry said he'd deal with it in the appropriate time and frame of mind.
I'd say that's as fair as you can ask.
First, no one has to deal with the trash and second; it will be resloved, not bandaged.
I say KUDOS to Terry.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Todd Hathaway on June 08, 2008, 12:28:00 PM
I don't know if it could be implemented on the board, but a handy feature for many sites these days is a post rating system.

A person can click on a thumb up or thumb down, for example, to indicate whether the post was useful or inappropriate. If enough people give the thumbs down, the message gets deleted....or usually it's just no longer displayed by default.

That make community policing pretty easy, and usually works well.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Abel on June 08, 2008, 01:03:00 PM
This forum/website has a bad habbit of simply blocking out or shutting down anything that doesn't agree with a couple moderators.

Its really bad when a traditional archery website simply shuts down its entire shooter's forum. Thats not a fault of posters but a testimony to poor moderating.

Just my opinion fellas, I hope I'm still entitled to it. What say you?
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Craig Holdren on June 08, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
Well, as a brand new member of the gang, and still in the first few weeks of being brutally schooled by my first recurve after years of shooting wheelies - I found that forum REALLY valuable.  Great info/ answers/ analysis on all sorts of questions that for dipstick newbies like myself are hard to find anywhere else.  Now where to go to find answers to my 'tard questions?

In fact, although there was certainly dissent and a bit of snottiness in some of the posts, I thought in comparison to the compound-oriented sites I've been frequenting for years that it was remarkably civilized - even when emotions ratcheted up it struck me as a squabble amongst brothers rather than Hatfield vs. McCoy.

Anyway I certainly hope it's reinstated soon.  Otherwise you all will be made to suffer my dingbat inquiries in all the wrong places.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: James Wrenn on June 08, 2008, 01:58:00 PM
Well it is still there when I click on the link.Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Todd Hathaway on June 08, 2008, 01:59:00 PM
Well,
If you want to discuss shooting and form and such you are all welcome to join us at staf.trinitylongbowmen.com, better known as the Stickbow Target Archery Forum. Rob DiStefano started it years ago, and the attendance was so low that he stopped running it, and gave it to me since I had some spare web space.

The attendance is even lower now, but those who participate are pretty knowledgeable, and there are some great old articles too.

The moderation is light-handed unless you're hocking your viagra.

There are no advertisements, so I don't make any money off the site, but you're welcome to stop by and chat...at least until this board gets it's shooter's forum back up.

-Todd
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: horatio1226 on June 08, 2008, 02:01:00 PM
16,559 members. Mods must be doing something right. Respect is the key here. Pretty simple really! There are other forums to go to.
Brian
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: trip on June 08, 2008, 04:59:00 PM
The shooting archive is still available with plenty of good info.  I'm sure the administrators and moderators are still very busy with St. Jude's and they will find a solution to get the shooters forum link back some way.  We just need a little patience and maybe check out some the other links on the site we wouldn't normally click.  Just a thought.  I miss it too.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Terry Green on June 08, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
Abel,...your opinion stinks...you aint got a clue about moderating, or running a site this size, or what ELSE we are working on that we don't have time to fool with the shooter's forum at the moment.

Hope I didn't break my own rules...what do you say?

BTW, you haven't posted in the Shooter's forum in over a year, so what do you care?  I'm pretty sure I already have the answer to that.

smiliecon.....ONE PERSON??? Guess you didn't read my 1st post. Clueless, read the 1st paragraph of this post again.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: ozarkcherrybow1 on June 08, 2008, 05:21:00 PM
You Moderators do a fine job on this site. I may not alway agree with everything you do, but with the overall scope of things here on Trad Gang, your doing GOOD!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  
 This will all pan out fine folks....HAVE PATIENCE.........Terry
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Guru on June 08, 2008, 05:28:00 PM
Abel and Smilinicon,  It's guys with "opinions" and "understanding" like yours that belong elsewhere. Like Terry said...clueless!

For you guys that can understand "the why" of this happening...it's not over yet...hang in there.....and thank you for the support    :notworthy:
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on June 08, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
I love Tradgang. I spend ALOT of time here and have met some great people, shared info, even hunted with some of them. I would like my Tradgang experience to broaden on line as well as in the field. Keep up the GREAT work Mods and thanks for the privilege to share and learn in this forum.    :clapper:
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: sticshooter on June 08, 2008, 06:36:00 PM
TG is the BEST. For those who don't like the way the show is run can always find someplace else to hang out. This is Terrys house and HE makes the RULES! We are guest's here and should act as such. Thanks to all the mods who do a great job. And when they do there jobs get crap from people.<><
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: barebow62 on June 08, 2008, 06:43:00 PM
terry...bring the forum back...just exclude the idiots!   discussion is always good,but if people get stupid this isnt the place for it....thanks for a cool site by the way,much appreciated
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: vermonster13 on June 08, 2008, 07:10:00 PM
Patience. Folks have close to $90,000 dollars of Auction business to take care of, businesses to run, jobs to do and a life off of here that needs tending. Give the guys some time. It will be back better than ever in time.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: jacobsladder on June 08, 2008, 11:17:00 PM
"Expect to be respected if you decide to join the gang, because the rule of respect is held highest of the few rules that apply. Tradgang.com has a zero tolerance for disrespect directed to anyone. If you want to disagree, then please do so in an adult manner. Debate is healthy, as one sword sharpens another, but it must be done in an honorable fashion"

The rules have been layed out plain and simple.... its all about simple respect...doesnt mean you have to agree... you just have to disagree respectfully..... I don't agree with all of the decisions that the moderators make, i dont agree with all comments that are posted... but i respect others opinions and i'm smart enough to know that the moderators are the ones that are protecting this site and the ones that have to babysit the few fools that want to ruin a good thing....The rules have been layed out and there are very few of them....but respect is a must !! seems fairly simple to me.... just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Was the "shooter's forum" removed ????
Post by: Terry Green on June 09, 2008, 06:36:00 AM
BTW...two things I should have posted but was in a hurry as usual.

This is not, and has never been, a 'traditional archery' site.  Nowhere can you find that statement about Trad Gang, we have always been since day one a traditional BOWHUNTING site.  

Number 2, if someone needs help learning to shoot, they don't have to have a 'shooters forum' to get help here at Trad Gang.  They can post right here on the PowWow.  We didn't always have a shooters forum ya know, and folks got help back then as well.