I have been kicking around this aite for a couple of years now. I love traditional archery.I bought a couple of nice bows and have gotten pretty good with my shooting. I decided that I am going to hunt for the first time this fall with some close friends. I am going to take my bow course and hunter safety course when they become available.
What are some of the necessities that I am going to have to start buying now. I need advice on clothes, boots, gear. I am in upstate New York so it will be pretty cold. What are some of the things that I won't be able to do without on my first hunt, besides my bow and arrows. Thanks
Brian :archer:
Brian,
we nne to get together and do some stump shooting, i have a lot of extra gear if i can save ya so money you are more then welcome to have what ya need. i also do a lot of hunting, have many tree stands in place and most of it is public land that i could show you so you will have a good spot.
Brian, buy a couple pair of good boots, for deer hunting I use rubber in the eraly season and a pair of sorrels for later on as I sit some long hours. A good pair of long underwear like the polar fleece from Cabelas and than just some layering. We can get together and go thru the catalogs if ya want, I myself also find a good armguard a must once ya start layering clothes. Betwen Jamie, Damon and I we can get ya going and I can put ya on some deer as well! Shawn
If I were in upstate New York, I would not be without Grabber Mycoal 12 hour warmers. Air-activated heat packs that are toasty li'l busddies in the nooks and crannies of your clothing.
I would also want to bring along a Kenny.
Killdeer :thumbsup:
Brian, get yourself some good long johns, I like man made fiber for for my first layer wool would be nice but there expensive. I have several different kinds of wool pants and bibs, you can get some $10 army surplus wool that will work good till it gets real cold. Get yourself a good set of breathable rain gear they are good on wet days but they will also keep the wind out on cold windy days. It can get kind of expensive when your starting out, but get the best you can afford.
tell ya what i good a good used set of camo wool bibs only problem is they have a kazillion briars stuck in them, put your kids to work picking them off and they are yours, should serve ya well, killed a few deer in them. also have some good wool hats for ya. sounds like Shawn and Jamied can help ya as well. hunt North with me, South with Shawn and i'm pretty sure you will have a good chance at deer. i know ya will have a shot at bunnies with Shawn! i even have a tree stand i could give ya if you need one?
Do you have woodchucks to hunt? If you do spend some summerdays sneaking up on them, Use your broadheads that you are going to hunt with, If you can get up on them and get a few I think it would help a bunch. Its bigtime fun also.
This Fall Your more then welcome to come and hunt with Us Jersey Boys.... for the early fall bow season.... Our Season starts Sept 13 this year...
Brian, the thing to remember is to keep it simple. A good comfortable pair of DRY boots and a good set of wool and you will be set. One thing that I do is to wear a second arm gaurd over my upper arm when I have multiple layers on, so when you don't get that perfect form in you stand or blind it won't mess your shot up.
Thanks for all of the advice. I wouldn't pass up an opportunity to hunt with any tradgangers. I have been hanging around the Adirondacks my whole life and couldn't imagine a better place to hunt, especially with a guy like Kenny.
That being said, I'd like to open a can of worms and ask opinions on what kind of broadhead I should use. Are trade points a possibility?
Brian :campfire:
Are there gloves that you use for cold weather hunting?
Brian, when the weather gets cold I wear wool gloves, a full glove on my bow hand and either a fingerless one or I just cut part of the fingers off and wear my glove under it. I always carry hand warmers in my pocket or have them in muff, if it is snowing or wet I carry my gloves in to try to keep them as dry as possible, cold hands and feet can end a hunt sooner. I won't get involved in the broadhead controversy let the others take care of that.
What do you use James?
Kenny, are you a plus size man like me? (xxxl)
Horatio, what size boots do you wear? I wear only rubber Lacrosse boots from non insulated to 1200 when it gets to single digits. I have an extra pair of 800 gram your welcome to if you can fit into an 11. PM me if your interested.
Broadheads, well take your pick. They all will do the job on any eastern game. I like 3-blade snuffers on almost anything. But I'm using 2-blade Eskimos on elk this fall. Use what you want but always make sure it's SHARP!
Mike
Brian,
You're a Lucky Devil,you know that right????? You have about 2 dozen TradGangers within about an hours drive and they REALLY know thier stuff!!!!! I'll be hunting with you up to Kenny's if you go to his annual "Adirondack Attack" hunt. Might even be hunting with you elewhere too!!!!!
No my Friend.....Kenny's not a "plus size" man,(he only thinks he is LOL) but I AM!!!!! I've got LOTS of stuff!!!!! Between me and the rest of "The Gang" we'll get you ready in time for hunting season.
As far as clothing goes,It can get VERY cold!!!!! However.....It can be VERY warm also!!!!! Layers are the key. Personaly,I'm CHEAP!!!!! I buy cotton camo off the clearance rack,then I layer under it with 1 or 2 (or 3 or 4) 100% wool sweaters from the Good Will store. Put good wool socks on your feet,and a warm hat on your head,and your pretty well set for anything.
Tell us about your equipment. What type and weight bow do you shoot????? What kind of arrows????? These will help us get you started.
If you have any questions,feel free to ask!!!!! Most of us will be fallin' all over ourselves tryin' to help.
Look forward to meeting you!!!!!
what BH's to Use...well You're going to get tons of members telling you their favorite BH. The main thing is to get what ever kind of BH deadly Sharp. A BH that isn't sharp, wont do you any good...Keep on shooting, when hunting season gets here & with the help from others on here...You'll be fine.
Taking Ken and Shawn's advice to heart would sure be a good starting point...if I'da known those two when I was first starting out, I woulda had a deer or five by now...
Brian ya cannot go wrong with Snufferas 125 to 160 grains, they are easy to sharpen and cut a big hole. I wear a thin glove of cotton on my bow hand and none on my string hand, I just use one of those chemical hand warmers in my pocket and keep my hand in there when real cold! Shawn
QuoteBrian ya cannot go wrong with Snufferas 125 to 160 grains, they are easy to sharpen and cut a big hole.
I'll second that. I only have experiance with the 100 and the 160. It doesn't take much to realize that those Snuffer 160's will leave a massive hole. But, I'm kinda leaning more toward the 100's on a 25-grain adaptor. Still a 1-1/4" cut, yet less prone to planing.
Not to mention, all you need is a BIG file to get 'em sharp, and maybe some fine emory cloth to finish 'em...
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I have a 1969 Kodiak Magnum 47# and 52"( this is the bow that I thought I would hunt with but that was before I bought the other 2)
Great Plains Palo Duro recurve 50# and 60"
V- Archery reflex deflex 52# and 62"
Thay are all good shooters but don't know which one would be best for hunting. I don't know if I should get a bow quiver. Right now I have a basket quiver and a hip quiver. I am shooting sitka spruce arrows but will buy whatever is the best for hunting.
I know I'm lucky Chuck. I am going to tap into the resource that is New Yorker. Looking forward to meeting you. Thanks for the help and advice.
Brian
Brian,
this weekend and next is shot for me but lets make plans to get together and do some stump shooting. i'm sure Bowspirit will go and who knows who else. we can get ya squared away with some gear. i highly reccomend wool clothers and like Chuck said layers is the way to go.
Ken
I can't think of anything that I would rather do.
I am finishing up Little League and Scout camp and then let's do it. I need a couple of weeks. Got a good place? I want to go to your church!
Brian
to quote Shawn oooohhhh yeeaaaaahhhh i have a couple good places to go stumping, right in the ridges i deer hunt. streams, hard woods, swamps and wild beauty! as far as shooting and tuning the bow Shawn and Bowspirit are who you want to hook up with as i am not all that good with set up. i do know deer, tree stands and a lot about the woods that i can help you with, i can get ya on them, you do the rest! i have hunted a long while and have been around big bucks often enough to learn a thing or two. look forward to flinging some arrows with ya.
I remember the post about the record buck when you were a kid. That's good enough for me!
Be careful though...that Ken'll get you hooked on hunting those northern hardwood hilltops. Used to be a "Southern" boy myself till last years Adirondack Attack. Haven't hunted the Southern Zone since, except for the JLMBH. He just makes it look too fun... :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
Horatio,
If you do decide to go with the snuffers, tru-angle makes a little kit for under $30.00 which is called the snuffer tamer. They make sharpening a snuffer so easy even I can do it. Just some info.
Those boots do run a tad big. I wear a 10.5 and always buy an 11 to wear heavy socks. If you want to try them then send me your address and I'll get them out to you next week. Let me know. Good Luck!
Thanks for the offer Mike but I doubt that they will fit me. I went on a 3-D shoot today to compare the way my aluminums flew compared to the woodies I made. The woodies flew much better and seemed to hit harder. Should I set up some woodies to hunt with? Is there a good reason not to? Can I get snuffers in any diameter? How do I decide which bow to start practicing with? My bows are listed above. Am I thinking too much?
Brian
If you plan on hunting early season, don't forget about BUGS! Start putting some Thermacell aside, check past posts about how to do it on the cheap. Maybe a BugSuit also, or at least a Headnet to keep them from buzzing near your face. Up where you are you probably get lucky and have fairly early frosts, that helps.
The K-mag would be a good choice for hunting since it's short (so easy to get through brush, and can shoot it in more places, like sitting for instance.)
I like my Kodiak a lot. :D
If you plan on being out all day, then you should take more than 1 warm facemask/hat thing (in cold weather anyways). If you're anything like me, then the vapor from your breath soaking into the mask, and being pressed against your face all day will drive ya nuts.
You'll find Snuffers come in 11/32" diameter, but they work for 23/64", 21/64", and even 5/16". Just so long as you make sure they spin true, they'll work just fine.
i;ll add that you can find many great hunting clothes at area garage sales. i do not use camo very much, i use plaids, wool, and flannel. just got 3 great plaid shirts for 75 cents at a garage sale Sunday!
I'll 2nd the wool. We as hunters get tooooo caught up in camo and tend to forget that deer are colorblind. Wool will keep you warm no matter what and is really quiet. The old Filson red plaid coats are everywhere if you look. Could get one pretty cheap. Good luck.
Hunt with the bow you shoot the best. The limb length has not been a great factor with me, though I have not hunted a bow over 60". I used a 52" '65 K-Mag and a 58" Morrison Dakota last fall. I hunt on the ground, for what it's worth. (Not much, according to the deer. :p )
Shoot all three for a month or two, then ask yourself a couple of questions. Which one am I most confident with? Will I be able to pull it easily after sitting with my butt frozen to a log for three hours?
Pick your bow, then, and shoot it exclusively. Shoot the arrows that you shoot best. Make more. Any of your bows is capable of doing the job with the lightest Sitka Spruce or aluminum, or the heaviest ash, hickory or lam-birch arrow.
I will put in a plug for genuine Polartec fingerless gloves from Ragged Mountain. They come in black, or black. I used them on the bunny hunt, as I have for the last seven years. Just bought two more pairs.
Killdeer :campfire:
Killie, where do you get those gloves? They sound pretty good. I don't normally wear gloves when deer hunting but bunnies my hands are covered. Too cold that time of year. Are they real thick?
Thanks, Mike
Get rid of all your cotton.
1st layer: Silk or something to wick away sweat.
2nd layer: Wool.
3rd layer: Wool. Or polar flees.
Boots: Waterproof 1000g Thinsilate. Rubber if possible.
Gloves: Wool.
Hat: Wool.
Socks: Smart Wool.
Final layer: I have leafy wear comos.