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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Terry Green on May 27, 2008, 10:39:00 PM
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Thanks to Tom Mussatto for compressing this clip for easy download.
I'd also like to add that I center punched the shoulder MUCLE...not the shoulder bone. The lungs were behind the shield where I hit and not bone. This shows just how far forward you can shoot a hog and go straight to the vitals boneless....if you got enough bow or the right broadhead to get through the shield.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/paraboar10.jpg)
Not all hogs have shields this thick(2 inches), but they are noticeable when they get this big, so this might be good to know before you shoot if you see some saddle bags hanging off of one. Turn your volume up....
Click Here (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/hog1.wmv)
This is another hog I shot with Ray Hammond a couple of years ago...
This might be a great opportunity to show some shot placement photos. Ray and I discussed this on the way back, and by showing these pics someone may save themselves some grief. It shows just how forward you can shoot a hog because of the front end bone structure.
Remember, this 300#er only ran 30 yards, and this shot did get both lungs and the heart......Note the forward exit wound and this was from a 60# longbow and a Zwickey Delta 4 blade.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/sc20.jpg)
This pic reveals that 'Bride of Horse Tail' was slightly quartering away. It also shows how far forward it exited without hitting any bone. This picture however is deceiving on how low on the body the shot placement was.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/hogshotplacement2.jpg)
This pic shows the true elevation on the body...and makes the shot 'low and tight'.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/hogshotplacement3.jpg)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/rayhammond123/feralhog1.jpg)
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nice job, Terry!!! Great shooting, as usual.
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dang thats nuts, what bw setup did u use to take it terry?
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Great info. You always hear about the shoulder armor on hogs but until you see it, it is hard to understand just how thick they are.
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Thanks Terry,
I didn't know that shield was that hard! I guess I better step it up if I want to get through that on a big hog.
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Thanks for the video!
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It was a 70# Thunderstick MOAB - and an Ace Super Express.
(http://www.bowsite2.com/aceshopping/images/ITEMS/Super-Express-175.jpg)
Yep, the guy had petrified catcher's mitts as saddle bags.
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Thanks for the tutorial Terry, for people like me with no experience with hogs, it's very valuable info.
Paul.
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:clapper: :clapper: Well done terry
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No problem guys....that's what this place is here for.
That Ace is not really correct in image....its a bit longer more spear point shaped. That pic came off their website...I'll try and get a better one.
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Terry...thanks for the video. Hogs (or hawgs as we say below Macon), have been my nemesis til this year. i finally took my first & second so far since January. My problem had been that subconsciously i couldn't make myself shoot that far forward. Until i get a few more under my belt, i'm still not comfortable shooting them unless they have at least a slight quartering angle.
That was awesome!
Randy
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good stuff thanks for posting it
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Now that's a shield! Very cool little video Terry.
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Do all hogs have a shield that hard?
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Great video, thanks for sharing Terry
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Thanks for the video. Nice info.
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Cool vid and pin point shooting as usual Terry.
Its hard to make oneself shoot right above the hog's leg on the body, seems like the bone will be there, but its not. The leg bone elbows forward and then back at the scapula. As Nicki Roth told me in Florida, "Everything behind the head is guts." Shoot right through that above the leg point or to pass between the legs on a quartering away shot. The heart lays right on the bottom of the chest you can't shoot too low.
Stone Knife, only the larger boars have a shield that heavy, but younger ones will have some thickening.
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neat video
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I think I need a bigger bow :bigsmyl:
Cool Video, Terry. Thanks for sharing!!
David
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Thanks Terry thats good info! I have a hog hunt with Ray next month and am researching everything I can on how to hunt and where to shoot a hog. This was a very instructive video.
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Great hog Terry! That shield really is unbelievable till you see it for yourself. That big hog I shot last night of Sweat had a shield 1/2" thick. The weight of the shield pulled the skin off as we skinned it. Once we had the shields off we layed them out and it was all anyone of us could do to drive a knife through that shield. I wish we would have had more time to let some of the guys shoot at shields with lighter poundage bows. I was using a 75# Morrison with 640gr arrows and only got 10" of penetration at 15 ft.Hit was directly behind shoulder and took out both lungs.
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The shield on that boar was nearly 2 inches thick where I hit him.
Seen shields before, but this one was VERY visible from over 50 yards way on the hoof.
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Here's a better pic of the ACE...sorry it took me so long....
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/ace1.jpg)
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/ace2.jpg)
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ive also seen them with shields that are very defined. im nobody but i always try to get a slight quartering away shot and in the arm pit. i have never wounded one that way with a 45# recurve. like i said i aint no expert it just has made me more successful and kept me off the thick stuff.
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Nice penetration. I always aim just behind their "elbow".......
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:campfire:
Thanks for sharing. Very informative..........
:clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Hawgslayer
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TTT for the guy going on his 1st hog hunt.
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Thanks Terry, some great info/evidence. I must have missed this on the first go-round.
Eric
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Cool pics and video. Its rare a fella shoots to far forward on a hog.I shoot light poundage bows and aim for the pocket and forward.On small pigs I try to shoot through low shoulder.RC
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Good example for Heavy Broadhead!!!!!!! :)
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This is the type of information that can make the difference between success or failure.
Great thread.
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A couple of the best anatomy pix I've ever seen...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/anatomy%20pix/heartlunghog.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/anatomy%20pix/cavityhog.jpg)
You can really see how low the spine runs thru the shoulder area. Also how low, forward, and small the lungs are.
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WOW Curt, killed my share of hogs, never looked at them like this though! Thanks for the detailed pix!!! Learn something everyday.-Bill
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Thanks for sharing this info. I am hunting with 7th Age the first weekend in May and this has been some great info.
Paul
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TTT