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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: George D. Stout on January 01, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
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I posted this on a few other sites to compare the answers and opinions. I'm sure each will be a little different but it will be fun to find out. ;)
No....I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about metal riser recurve bows. To you newbies out there, they have been around about fifty years. So let's not even get into the traditional-term aspect. Let's talk curb appeal.
Although I'm a big fan of nice woods, warm risers and sexy lams....I like my metal risers as well; and I think they have a beauty all their own. But you guys know that one man's model, is another man's sisty ugler. Talk it out. Here's a few photos:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/goldeneagle.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/08300001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/05230009.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/11180008.jpg)
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Sleek Beauties to me George. I like the curves on older women. Er.. ah.. I mean older bows.
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One of the best shooting bows I owned was a Bear black bear compound riser converted to accept ILF limbs. It wasn't drop dead gorgeous, but it wasn't butt ugly either. Man did it shoot! Kind of kick myself for letting that one go.
(http://cluster.ezphotoshed.com/users/chrisw8658/photos/1163313498-1.jpg)
(http://cluster.ezphotoshed.com/users/chrisw8658/photos/1163313499-2.jpg)
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I think they LOOK good, but when I pick one up...yuck! I am getting to the point all I want to shoot are one piece bows because I don't like the weight.
I may need to add one of these to my arsenal though, it could be just the ticket for those times when my shooting goes south.
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I've got an old Bear compund I've thought about getting converted to accept some recurve limbs but time and $$$ never seem to come together at the same time.
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Looks don't make 'em shoot, but to me no metal riser can come close to looking as good as a nice wood riser. 'Course I've seen some butt-ugly wood risers too.
Chad
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I couldn't tell you why, but Pic2 is just gorgeous. The rest look awful, to my mind. I know it's about how they shoot & not how they look (Think DAS) but I can't imagine ever looking at a metal riser'd bow & thinking 'WOW! Gotta have one...'
As I say though, number two would be the exception to that! What is it?
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pic 1 and 3, butt ugly. pic 2 and 4, not sure I'd clasify them as sleek beauties, but they're nice looking bows.
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im gonna go ahead and say BUTT UGLY.. sorry if you own these bows but i think they are ugly. Either way if they shoot where you want them too then how can you complain much.
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A bow's true beauty is in the flight of the arrows it launches. After all that's what we actually look at when we shoot them.
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I think they are pretty ugly.....but I'm a fan of ugly bows that shoot good. It's like the nerdy guy in highschool who ends up marrying the prom queen!
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Number 2 is a Carroll's, Gentleman Jim Takedown Hunter. They are one of the sweetest shooting bows you can find.
1. Phil Grable Golden Eagle
2. Carroll's
3. Hoyt
4. Herter's
I'll add another here that I really like. It's a Shakespeare (also Phil Grable design.)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/oldearcher46/11180005.jpg)
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Good, bad, or ugly I don't know. I guess it is in the eye of the beholder.
Cold yes!
I was just out shooting my Gamemaster and when it is down to 20 it gets cold in a hurry!
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Try this:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/plywoodkid/detail?.dir=/6293&.dnm=a251re2.jpg&.src=ph
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I've got to go with BUTT UGLY. Metal risers don't do much for me.
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just as an aside....do you guys who think metal risers are ugly...shoot metal or carbon arrows? Or do you stay with that beautiful wood? :saywhat: :saywhat:
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I really like the mating of the limbs and riser on the Carroll's bow.
Bob
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I always liked the old Bear metal riser takedowns. I guess a lot of folks did, 'cause they sold a bunch of them.
Only risers I don't care for are the fancy-schmancy ones with glitter and candy colors.....they just look limp-wristed.
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Man thats just eeewwwgly. a metal riser on a bow is like a black polycarbonate stock on a weatherby. blech.
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Metal risers are not attractive at all, but who cares. Had a Sky hunter Supreme, great shooting bow and I liked shooting it, but I didnt like hauling it to the woods, heavy and cold.
Nothin against them, just dont like'em
Eric
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I don't like metal risers but it would be pretty boring if everyone liked the same things in a bows look. We wouldn't have the privelge to see the artisan work of the master bowyer and the request of the archer who wants a bow made with certain woods. There are a few metal risered bows that will shoot circles around just about any bare bow. As long as I am happy with my shooting and bowyers can help me achieve that with wood risered bows I will most likely stay with the wood. Heck yea I like to occasionally sit in the woods and admire the lines in a nice looking wood riser mated to limbs of osage or red elm or bamboo (grass). I reserve the right to change my mind cause that DAS look like I could hit a knats eye at 20 auh 30 yds!
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I've seen and shot some metal riser bows I thought were very nice. Others I didn't care much for. The same goes for wood risers too.
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Jason,
I'd have to agree with you. It depends on the bow. I've seen some wood that I thought were really ugly. I like the historical aspect of the older metal risers you have pictured there George. I would like to shoot them to see how they feel. I'm guessing stable and heavy?
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I was going to say they are not very attractive, until Ragi may a comment about a poly stock on a weatherby....uh-oh, my Mark V is a stainless, with poly stock in 7mm. So I guess I should say they look, uh, ok?
Not a big fan of metal riser, but haven't shot many- so not a real opinion either way..
Dave
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I prefer metal over most woods but I have been know to take a can of Krylon paint to clear glass limb before. :) To each his own but I like good bows even if some do have wood in them. :D
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Buuuuutt Ugly!!!!!!! Then again I've never owned one so my opinion could change after a short shooting session.
I remember when I got my first 3pc recurve, man I thought that thing was not only ugly and blocky looking but heavy to boot. Changed my mind in about 20 minutes of shooting and still own it today.
Rick
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George, I had the Herter's in the bottom photo. Shot my first bull elk with it using #13 glass arrows out of the 65# limbs. My best friend still has it in it's hard case. Beauty to me.
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I have to vote Butt Ugly. That's not to say I don't shoot'em. I shoot my Hoyt as good as, if not better than any other bow I have. But I won't hunt Whitetails with that ugly thing ever again...it gets too cold! My old Hatfield is my goto Whitetail bow. Here's a couple of pics of my Ugly bows.
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o108/tgdeadsmple/uglymetal1.jpg)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o108/tgdeadsmple/uglymetal2.jpg)
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Ugly. Not so much how they look as the DARNED WEIGHT!
Feels like I'm holding a 2lb lead sinker....
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Gawge, for what it's worth I shoot wood arrows, but I may wind up shooting carbon eventually (they ain't purty either).
Jeff brings up another reason I don't care for them--too dang heavy, and for some reason the feel of a metal riser is about as appealing to me as grabbing a cold bottle of snot. 'Course I'm sure that would change if it were the only bow I had acess to, or if I found I could shoot one better than anything else.
Reckon' there is a reason some wheel bow companies put wood grips on their bows? :archer:
Chad
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I'm hearing a Clint Eastwood "spagetti western" theme song about now LOL
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Actually guys, the Shakespeare and the Carroll's are not heavy at all. Take a look at the design.
Not much metal there and lighter than a Bear Custom Kodiak for sure. Lighter than an MA Widow as well. The Hoyt in the photo has a magnesium riser as opposed to aluminum in the other three, so it's very light compared to actionwood or bubinga.
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Butt ugly, wouldnt shoot one with a bag over my head.
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I prefer Mark Twain's sayings over Albert Einstein. Too much left brain with Al.
"A dog teaches a boy three things: Trust, Loyalty, and to turn around three times before lying down." Mark Twain
Or:
"A goose may honk, but it will not wave."
Patrick F. McManus
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