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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Wudstix on January 04, 2024, 07:02:30 PM
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If you could only use one broadhead which would you chose and why? Cause I like it isn't good enough.
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Ace two blade. Oh wait, that's the only one I use now. :thumbsup:
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I like the woodsman for whitetail but, if I could only use 1 head it would be the Eskimo from Zwickey. I would feel comfortable using the Eskimo on anything, they fly well sharpen easily are rugged and reasonably priced.
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I'm partial to three blade heads, so 190 grain Snuffers are my current date. Until I rum out. Big heavy head that leaves a large hole.
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I like woodsman's as well, but if limited to only one, I would use the Zwickey 2-blade No Mercy. It's what I use most of the time now. Like the length to width ratio, sturdy and easy to sharpen with a Tru-angle stone or with a file.
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I think I'd vote Zwickey No Mercy too. The Woodsman Elite/VPA are top flight...wait, so is Eclipse and STOS. You said ONE right?
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Ha, that's easy.
If I could get 'em, the big Grizzly Kodiak single bevels.
They fly great, are not hard to get really properly sharp, they leave a more than adequate hole, and in my set-up's, they penetrate like there's no tomorrow.
Just wish I had a few more than the 8 or 10 I've got stashed away...... :biglaugh:
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Lex
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For me I like the 150 grain 2 blade Magnus Stingers for a few reasons personally.I need a scew in mostly.The price point is very good.Mine have come razor sharp.Reasonably strong main blade.I can swap out the blade.Just make sure the screw is tightened down strongly!I like the diamond tip alot to prevent tip curl.I like the 150 grain weight.They fly true.Last I have had excellant results with them.Thats my screw in head of choice.
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I think for me it would be an Ace journeyman. They are super durable, fly well and I truly can get them crazy sharp. They are very affordable as well. My go to head for decades. I have to confess that this year I strayed and tried a 3 blade head and was quite happy with the results.
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TimberShark:
- Excellent for deer, hogs, turkeys and larger game
- Extra-large wound channel and consistent upper-end blood trails
(From several deer measured: ~3 ½” entry…~2” exit)...shortened recoveries...
- Durable and penetrating and lethal
- Easy to sharpen
- Easy to tune
Note: Have had success with a plethora of different BH's since the mid 70's.
My 2nd choice would be the 250 gn VPA three blade...
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170 grain VPA 3-blades (Woodsman Elite's) for me. The best combination of penetration and cutting surface equate to more recovered animals in my experience. Just for the confindence if nothing else.
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2 blade Delta,because they work for me and have for a long time
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Just one, Then Zwickey Delta for me. Fly straight, easy to sharpen and great penetration with all the bow weights I use.
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The vintage Bear Razorheads (aka: Greenies). Have used them since 1969 with no issues. :archer2:
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I use the two bladed black diamond eskimo 85% of the time and if I could choose only one...that would be it. The steel is superb, sharpens to like a razor, and holds an edge extremely well. The eskimo is a very adaptable for use from rabbits to elephants and mounts on anything from wood to carbon. They are easy on the pocket book as well. Lastly, I taken over 125 big game animals with the eskimo with absolutely zero complaints.
The sun never sets on a Zwickey.
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Well that depends on what I'm hunting because it takes more arrow to quickly and cleanly kill a large, heavy boned animal than it does for a smaller lighter animal. And I build my arrows to the task at hand instead of the other way around. That being said, I use single bevel 2 blade broadheads at the front of all my hunting arrows (with the exception of very small game arrows).
My brand of choice used to be Tuffheads, but you can't get them anymore, and I'm tired of chasing Sirius Archery as to when they might be back in stock. So it's Abowyer broadheads for me. Awesome quality and a warranty that can't be beat.
For big game like elk and moose I use the 300 gr. Brown Bear because of its superior ability to get the job done when that broadhead happens to hit bone.
For smaller game like caribou, deer, pronghorn, javelina, turkey, I use the 175 gr. Wapiti, for the same reason mentioned above.
And before someone starts lecturing me about making a well placed "perfect" shot, well that goes without saying. Even when the archer does everything perfectly (which is more rare than most will admit) a lot can happen before the arrow hits its mark, most commonly the animal moves. And when that happens, a bone hit is a 50/50 proposition, and I want that broadhead to still be able to do its work.
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I have every broadhead available and most that have came and gone since the mid 80's and me personally id keep my Snuffers over all of them if i could only have one and my hunting situation hasn't changed,,,,, if you said id be hunting everything in North America id have to go with a single bevel abowyer or cutthroat because of elk, moose or brown bears and my light bows.
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I can get a razor sharp edge on Bears and have killed more animals with them then others so I guess Greenies. I'll keep thinking on it.
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Zwickey Eskimos or Ace standard Both 125 grain and both are in my quiver at any given time for over 30 years.Never failed me if I do my part.
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I've come to like the Zwickey No Mercy 2 blade. It's a tough head that sharpens well and I like the profile.
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Just when I was down to the last 6 antique Bear Razorheads, I was lucky enough to find another dozen , with inserts, at a garage sale. Still in original packaging. So I will carry on till they are gone too. I’ve always loved the look and performance was never a question.
But I also tried the Wasp Traditional Sharpshooter because I liked the look, somewhat similar to the old Bears, same weight, and loved the flight. And razor sharp out of the package, and extremely well built to take on any hit on bone. Not super wide, but deadly nonetheless.
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Some good well though out answers. Zwickey are good heads, but for me don't come heavy enough. I prefer a head weight at least 160 grains. Haven't had much experience with single bevel. But plan to rectify that. Big three blade heads just put allot of blood on the ground, making tracking easy.
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VPA 3 blades. Solid head, great warranty, easy to sharpen and hold a great edge. Very easy to sharpen in the field. I hunt whitetail and turkey here in Indiana and of all the heads I shot over the years, I have had the most consistent positive results using the VPA. Years back I did kill a hog in Oklahoma with a VPA and 2 caribou in Quebec with an original Wensel Woodsman, which is pretty much the same profile as the VPA.
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Zwickey No Mercy, because they are strong, relatively inexpensive compared to some other brands, easy to get a razor sharp edge on and I have several dozen of them already. IMHO Zwickey just makes a good tough broadhead.
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OK, I did some thinking and researched my records that I've keep since 1972 of our Archery Clubs big game records. Since Going back to my first big game animal and ending with my last I've used 17 different broadheads to kill animals. I'll list them with the number of animals taken.
Black Panther 1
Ace 5
Bodkin 1
Copperhead slicer 0
Bear razorheads 70
Zwickey 13
Pearson switchblade 5
Pearson deadhead 3
Hunters head 4
Razorbak iv 3
saxon 19
snuffer 12
muzzy 1
Ribtek 12
woodsman 37
razorcap 1
steelforce 4
magus 2
Looks like a lot of them work as long as they are sharp!
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Snuffers are my favorite. I'll be honest I'm not a great shot, I need a head that will allow me some room for error and I never felt like the smaller two blades did that for me. People can say what they want "be a better shot it's all about shot placement" Yada Yada. I shoot everyday and constantly work to get better but things just happen when you're hunting and I feel like if you can just get the arrow in the body cavity with the snuffer that deer is dead.
That being said I've had good luck with the big Zwickey Deltas too. But my experience has been that they're more difficult to tune and sharpen than the snuffer.
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160 grain STOS Great design and easy to sharpen.
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I agree with the old snuffers, but I would choose the 300 grain 1 1/2” VPA, because they are still being made. I’ve killed more critters with 125 magnus buzzcut 4 blades though.
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I can't speak from years of experience or anything, but the half dozen or so big game kills that I have with a trad bow have all been with 3 blade 200 grain VPA's, and I've never had any issues with them aside from having to dig one out of a tree with my knife after it blew through a doe. They're easy to sharpen, durable, hold an edge well, and leave good blood trails.
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I'm sure the data supports multi-blade over two blade in most situations. Wider heads with more cutting blades just make sense. Be it three or four blade.
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Two Blade Tree Sharks consistently put more blood on the ground than any 3 and four blade heads in my experience.
Approximately 4 1/4" entries and approximately 2 1/2" exit wounds. Sat with a gentleman. just last evening...shooting a 42@25 Thunderchild using a Tree Shark....his shot on a mature doe was spot on....complete pass thru...blood bath for 50 yards where she expired...that was his 4th deer harvest with the very same arrow and very same broadhead and same Thunderchild....previous three deer all had similar results....this hunter is more than competent to go it solo...
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Centaur two blade would be a close second to Snuffers. Haven't shoot enough game with them yet, but so far I'm impressed. Just hopping on the single bevel train, so news at 2300.
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I like any good two blade broadheads I shot Magnus stingers, Bear razor heads, Grizzly, and Zwickey, all work great and easy to sharpen and price right.
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Grizzly double bevel for me. They cut a decent hole going in are devastating on the innards. They are fairly easy to sharpen even for a sharpening challenged guy like me. They are priced decently also!
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I’ve had good luck with 160 grain STOS. It flys well, easy to sharpen and strong. I know someone else posted awhile back that they didn’t like them. So be it but they have worked well for me.
They are no longer in production so I am going to Vpa, or Cutthroat three blade in 160 weight.
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Shot STOS for awhile, until I ran out. Switched to Magnus. Then I found heavy FOC.
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As I posted earlier, I really like the eskimo for the reasons I stated. I like any two edged broadhead as long as it sharpens well and isn't too wide. Perhaps the fact that I have a shorter draw has something to do with that. I pair the eskimo up with a 100 grain steel insert to make a 225 grain broadhead which really brings up the FOC. Still, even with this setup, I occasionally don't get a pass through.
I'm sure that almost everyone has read the Ashby study that recommended a two blade head in a 3:1 configuration (among other things) as the most lethal setup.... primarily I think to promote penetration.
In the end, the two blade broadhead has likely killed more animals than all the multiblade heads put together....if for no other reason the ancient cultures before us couldn't chip stone into a three blade configuration:)
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I’ve used several different broadheads over the years. But if it came down to one it be the Zwickey 2 blade Delta last count I think I’ve killed 40 or so deer and 30 hogs with them. They fly well they sharpen easy, the Grizzly broadhead has also done a great job.
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Original woodsman
Killed lots of critters with them and they have never let me down, easy to sharpen, penetrate well, and fly great.
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VPA 3 blades are my current choice, but I've used Snuffers and the original Woodsmen heads with great results as well in the past. VPA is made not far from me in Fort Wayne, IN and a friend designed them, plus their just fantastic heads. Durable, easy to sharpen and make nice big holes. :thumbsup:
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Yes, there are many good and great heads out there, pick your poison. Good solid heads are all winners.
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I'd have to pick either a 3-blade VPA, or the old 1 1/2" Magnus two blades. For whatever reason, those are the 2 out of the dozens of brands / styles I shoot that I can get the absolute sharpest with the least amount of effort. For that reason alone - I'd pick one of those 2.
Woodsman's would be a close 3rd for me for the same reason - I've somehow just developed the right touch with my files on those 3 above all the other heads I've owned and used.
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I cheat with the Snuffer or any other three blade. The 344 Stay Sharp system is amazing at putting scary sharp edges on broadheads with minimal effort. Big Magnus 2 blade 160 grain is also one of my favorites. I'll figure out the single bevel trick for these Wapiti heads.
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That’s way to much pressure for my OCD!!!
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I've used many different heads over the years, if you put them where they should be all work as they should. With that the past several years I prefer wide 2 bladed heavy heads 300 Plus grains. The Old Magnus, the wide ones with insert to get to 300 gr. never fail to penetrate, even at the lower poundage I shoot now. I don't care for vented blades. this is my preferences, just keep them sharp.
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VPA 3-blade for sure. 160 grain on woodies, 175 gain screw in on my aluminums and 200 grain screw in on carbons.
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Like wide 2 blade: Magnus Mag, Centaur, Abowyer or 3 blade; Snuffer, VPA, Grizzly instinct. All scary sharp and flying true.
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I still have about 100 original Magnus BH that should last me until I am around 120 years old. By that time I expect that they will be reintroducing the old Butterfield Brute and then I will switch to that.
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1 1/8 3 blade VPA's (344 sharpener is great) for blood trails second best Deltas for penetration and ease of sharpening. Been doing this for 60 seasons.
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Magnus Stinger 150 grain, 2 blades, does everything broadheads costing twice as much do.
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Magnus Stinger 150 two blade. I have used them with great success and they are one on the best American made / warranty backed heads I can find. I will get a set of the Magnus single bevel once available as I like the bone breaking strength of that design. I am certain that there are other great ones out there but these are the ones I use.
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First off, must be a glue on broadhead so I can mount it my way.
Then it must be easily sharpened by me and re-sharpened in the field.
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Ace two blade. Oh wait, that's the only one I use now. :thumbsup:
Beat me to it. Why? Easy to sharpen with just a file, and MASSIVE blood trails.