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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Crooked Stic on March 09, 2023, 05:06:19 PM
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What is everybody using? I have a pen from T bird from way back. It did good for awhile now it is pretty hit and miss.
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I have a drawer full of stuff I've bought and tried but still not satisfied with any of it.
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I am thinking of having my wife make a stencil of my name and the specs with her cricut joy and airbrush over it before spraying.
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I have some pens I picked up at hobby lobby that I use for marking crank baits that I airbrush and seal in epoxy. Copic sketch pens. Many colors and they last awhile. They are also alcohol based.
https://www.amazon.com/E51-S-Copic-Sketch-Marker-Milky/dp/B001IYR9MO/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1MWTRTL5KKR3F&keywords=copic+markers+white&qid=1678411292&sprefix=copic+markers+white%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-4
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I’ve been using these for years now…. Get the extra fine tip. Gold , black and silver work well… the white is very bright and I don’t care for using it.
The only issue I’ve had with these is in really warm weather the tips will clog up if you do not store them in a drawer out of direct sunlight.
https://www.amazon.com/DecoColor-Extra-Markers-Pkg-White-1234-3B/dp/B06Y1MZ8QF/ref=sr_1_36?crid=119TT1CJIOK46&keywords=Deco+color+paint+pens&qid=1678415197&sprefix=deco+color+paint+pens%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-36
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I use a dip pen and India ink. A bottle will last a long time and the ink does not fade in the sun.
Kyle
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I use these. But I would get the next 1 or 2 sizes larger next time I buy some. I have one for white and black. Get the pen cleaning kit to. I used these in drafting class back in highschool. Black widow uses the same pens. Sold at Dick Blick in Galesburg Illinois.
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I like India ink and use a quill type pen I made with a piece of bamboo.
(https://i.imgur.com/dfJgzEC.jpg)
Not the prettiest but it works well.
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Reminder to self don't drink coffee before writing on bow. Beer might be better 🤣
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Mike message me your address and we will send you off a new pen. Sorry you had an issue with the first one
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I use these. But I would get the next 1 or 2 sizes larger next time I buy some. I have one for white and black. Get the pen cleaning kit to. I used these in drafting class back in highschool. Black widow uses the same pens. Sold at Dick Blick in Galesburg Illinois.
These look like nice precision artist pens, that can be cleaned and refilled. Do you have any photos of the writing done with these? I think I’d like to try these but am uncertain on tip size.
Do you have any issues writing on glass with these?
The Deco color paint pens work ok…. But the tips clog up sometimes and they are toast… also.. I’d prefer something with a smaller tip for writing on the riser belly ramp that has nice clean lines…. I never could get the consistency I want from a calligraphy pen. That’s an art form working with dip pens I’ve never mastered.
Thanks, Kirk
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Kirk, I can show you some pictures of my handwriting. But my handwriting sucks. These were drafting pens that I used to use 42 years ago in high school. And I sold my whole set away. Found out later they were useful for what I do now. I don't think you'll have a problem writing on glass. I would least go the next size bigger , or two sizes bigger. And stick with their ink or the one of the white that I posted earlier. No problems with smearing after it's dry under a clear coat. JF p
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These pens I've been very happy with. Just have to make sure you clean them out when you're done and they'll work fine. The next time you want to use it. I know Black widow goes through a lot of handwriting a day. But I know they clean them out regularly. JF
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I was curious about the tip size and what the diameter of the actual ink laid down. Yours look to be.035, So you think the . 060 mm would be better ? Thanks. Always looking for a better finished product.
Kirk
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Yes Kirk, the bigger diameter size I think would work out better than what I've been doing. The ink does not flow out after You make your mark. I like it. Little more work. Keeping the pens clean but I'm happy, very happy with results. I got this information from Roger at Black widow. JF
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Thanks…. I just placed an order with black and white ink…, wish they had a gold color. That looks better than white. Kirk
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The white will look good. You can try out different ink. Black widow uses? Dr.? Maybe they make a gold. But I use this ink that goes along with the pins.
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This one I did. Zoom in.
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After seeing that... i may need to order a .35 mm too... i just ordered the .60 mm.... Spendy little pens. Kirk
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They aren't cheap, but work great and precise. JF
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Where you ordering these pens
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From Dick Blick in Galesburg Illinois a drafting supply store. JF
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Where you ordering these pens
Amazon
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Dr. Martin has a gold ink that may work with these pens.called copper plate gold
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It will work , Roger down at Black. Widow told me that's the ink that they use. I just never tried it myself. JF
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this one?
https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Ph-Martins-400070-11R-Calligraphy/dp/B0069EYIYA/ref=sxin_16_ci_mcx_mi_sr_m_il?content-id=amzn1.sym.14a38c0a-385f-4735-bb28-d2be35b783e1%3Aamzn1.sym.14a38c0a-385f-4735-bb28-d2be35b783e1&cv_ct_cx=Dr.+Martin+has+a+gold+ink&keywords=Dr.+Martin+has+a+gold+ink&pd_rd_i=B0069EYIYA&pd_rd_r=9b1d774a-5adb-4810-b34e-7378ba314cdd&pd_rd_w=tWVNs&pd_rd_wg=ilG3Y&pf_rd_p=14a38c0a-385f-4735-bb28-d2be35b783e1&pf_rd_r=GZ989BJ17BV9HNSF9Q5R&qid=1680193144&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-1-9eb59ba4-cd99-4f87-9222-b322340b23c8
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Yes Dr Martin's ink. I don't know if Black window use gold but he say they use the Black and White. I use the koinor ink myself.
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I always thought the white sticks out like a turd in a punch bowl myself, and have used mostly use gold on black limbs. I think I'm going to play with these new pens a bit before i order the gold ink and make sure i like em.... Thanks guys!
Hey Jeff, Is it important to use the cleaner and empty the ink between uses? How long can they set, before it causes problems? Kirk
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Unless you are going to use the pens every day. I rinse the pen out with water s lot them I use the cleaner per instructions.Clean out after each use. I don't put much ink in them when I do my signing. JF
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Thanks…. I’ll let ya know how they compare to the paint pens I’ve been using.
Kirk
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I think your going to love um. JF
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Jeff, I recall from drafting that those pens need to be held perpendicular to the writing surface to work correctly. Do you find that to be true when when writing on on your bows?
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Yes almost perpendicular. You can get away with about a 10° lay back. JF
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Jeff, I recall from drafting that those pens need to be held perpendicular to the writing surface to work correctly. Do you find that to be true when when writing on on your bows?
Back in my days of drafting we used mechanical pencils, not pens....but some guys inked the mylar dwgs. Now days it's all done on auto cad. Actually..... it's been that way for pretty much the last 25 years.
I remember the last few sets of drawings i took to have copied at a blueprint shop they told me they hadn't seen a set of pencil drawings for years... I did general contracting for many years and did all my own drafting and design work.
The big one that changed was the surveying industry when all these GPS units came out... Nobody knows what pulling a chain even means anymore, or how to use a transit. :dunno: :dunno: Times change....
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Well.... I just tried out one of these new pens, and I'm not feeling the love....while they are VERY precise, and the size is ok, the flow of the ink is too slow for me....
i bought the 2/.60 tip size, with both Black and White ink, and the KOH--I-NOOR pen cleaner.
After tying the pen out, i cleaned it well with the pen cleaner and put it back in the package. I would be more than glad to pass this pen & Ink along to someone else that appreciates it more than i do.
My writing style requires a quicker flow rate than this pen has.... I had similar issues using a calligraphy pen.
Kirk
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That's too bad Kirk, you don't like it. JF
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That's too bad Kirk, you don't like it. JF
You want it?... send me a pm with your address. I'll send it to you. I'd like to see it get used.
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Kirkl I think I sent you a PM. Jf
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I was going to order a set and now you got me wondering Kirk- I know that once i start writing I dont want to stop and go through fairly quicky
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Kirkl I think I sent you a PM. Jf
You did… I got it… will get this set up in the mail to you soon. Kirk
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I was going to order a set and now you got me wondering Kirk- I know that once i start writing I dont want to stop and go through fairly quicky
Yup…. You nailed it….. everyone has a different writing style. Slow and precise is not something I do well…. I’m a fast and furious, with a flair kind of guy. :biglaugh: If I screw it up, I use a little lacquer thinner to wipe it off and go again…..
these pens may flow better with larger tips though….. if you want to try one, I’d recommend a bigger tip size than the 2/.60 . I can’t even imagine a .35 except for artistry or maybe drafting.