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Title: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 04, 2023, 08:12:41 PM: I shoot a #40 longbow with a 560 grain arrow with a 2 blade head. I was wondering if anybody shoots a 3 blade at #40? I was looking at the Montec M3.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Terry Green on March 04, 2023, 08:53:11 PM: What ever you don't shoot a montec.
Powdered metal has no place in broadheads. They are Mickey Mouse Make Believe heads, that will never sharpen.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 04, 2023, 09:33:08 PM: Thanks Terry!
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Smguinnip on March 04, 2023, 10:25:58 PM: Quote from: Terry Green on March 04, 2023, 08:53:11 PM
What ever you don't shoot a montec.
Powdered metal has no place in broadheads. They are Mickey Mouse Make Believe heads, that will never sharpen.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Smguinnip on March 04, 2023, 10:30:29 PM: They look good in the package but that’s all
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Terry Green on March 04, 2023, 11:02:51 PM: Quote from: Smguinnip on March 04, 2023, 10:30:29 PM
They look good in the package but that’s all

That's called make-up. :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Cory Mattson on March 05, 2023, 06:27:10 AM: Quote from: Terry Green on March 04, 2023, 08:53:11 PM
What ever you don't shoot a montec.
Powdered metal has no place in broadheads. They are Mickey Mouse Make Believe heads, that will never sharpen.

Agree 100%
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Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BWlongbow on March 05, 2023, 07:41:48 AM: I shoot a 45# bow and have used the VPA 3 blades and the Woodman broadheads with success. The VPA broadheads sharpen easy for me and really hold an edge.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: 5deer on March 05, 2023, 12:06:49 PM: vpa :clapper:
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 05, 2023, 03:12:26 PM: Lets make a left turn in this post.I ve been looking at Magnus Black Hornet 2 blades. Some say they are too short and wide. Would you rather shoot a 3 blade or the short wide 2 blade?
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: cacciatore on March 05, 2023, 03:26:25 PM: I think there must be a limit on everything. Those extra short and tiny broadheads aren’t for me especially at stick bow hunting distance
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Don Batten on March 05, 2023, 05:51:29 PM: ive had good luck with 40 lb recurve with vpa 3 blade heads. 250's. in the dirt passthroughs on deer, a bear and pigs under 150 lbs. I do spend some time on them to get sharp as I can.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Terry Green on March 05, 2023, 05:52:41 PM: Yes, you can shoot a 3 blade if you tell me what you are planning on shooting.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 05, 2023, 06:03:49 PM: I’ll just stick with my 2 blade. Thanks
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: huskyarcher on March 06, 2023, 09:38:45 AM: 3 blades can certainly work well with a well-tuned 40lb bow, I’ve taken several deer, hogs, and turkeys with that set up and a narrow 3blade like woodsmans. One really important part of the equation is draw length—40lbs at 26in is no where near the same as 40lbs at 29in.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Duker on March 06, 2023, 02:28:20 PM: I've had good luck shooting a 42# pound bow at my draw length with well sharpened woodsman broadheads :archer2:
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Terry Green on March 10, 2023, 09:35:14 AM: Quote from: Duker on March 06, 2023, 02:28:20 PM
I've had good luck shooting a 42# pound bow at my draw length with well sharpened woodsman broadheads :archer2:

Yes, that's what the Wensel boys designed them for!!!
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Squeeze on March 10, 2023, 11:35:48 AM: When shooting lower weight hunting rigs, think about a wheelchair ramp. The long gradual slope takes less effort than a short steep ramp. Same goes for broadheads the long gradual angle like a woodsman or 1 1/8" VPA needs less energy to gain deeper penetration.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: SS Snuffer on March 10, 2023, 01:44:23 PM: BUCKY I have been thinking of trying a VPA 3 blade next season instead of my beloved DELTAS. Shot Snuffers for years, great heads but changed to Deltas when I had to drop bow weight.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Tim Reese on March 11, 2023, 08:46:42 AM: I’ve killed the majority of my deer with 40-45# pound bows and the OG wensel woodsmans. No issues at all. I have switched to mainly 2 blades but only for options and I can sharpen them better imo. Still have and will use the WW’s as I need. All were pass through. Arrow get hung up on feathers a lot but always two holes.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Tim Finley on March 15, 2023, 11:18:37 AM: If I was shooting that light of a bow the WW is all I would shoot it will penetrate farther and never a small narrow 2 blade .
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Post by: gordydog on March 16, 2023, 08:36:31 AM: It would be interesting to know the arrow weight of these 3 blade pass throughs?
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Dave Pagel on March 16, 2023, 10:59:06 AM: With my 42# Firefly Messenger my arrow weight is 510-515. Great performing combination.

D.P.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 16, 2023, 11:07:57 AM: Tim, why no 2 blade?
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Tim Finley on March 17, 2023, 11:27:51 AM: Arrow pinch and bad blood trails I hung up a fully intact deer carcass and shot different heads through it and the WW penetrated better than the two blades .
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Tajue17 on March 19, 2023, 12:13:39 PM: The wensels hissed in flight for me, bucky you should look at the vpa heads they are a solid 1 pc design. You should tell us more about your setup though what bow and what type of arrow and what point weight your tuned at. I have a 40# saunders recurve and i use a heritage 90 with a 250gr left bevel abowyer whitetail and its a huge two blade.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 19, 2023, 03:14:29 PM: Tajue 17, i have had great success with 2 blade Stingers for 10 years. Just wondering about 3 blade. Arrow is GT trad 500 spine with 150 head 150 insert. Bow is Kanati LB 40@26
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: BUCKY on March 19, 2023, 03:15:35 PM: Tim, no problem with my 2 blade penetrating.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Tajue17 on March 20, 2023, 06:08:31 AM: Id look at the vpa 3 blades even the wensels it really comes down to budget but if your arrow is flying straight and your shot distance is reasonable then a really sharp 3 blade will work,, there are many pics and videos. My favorite 3 blades are the big snuffers but they are hard to find.. using a heritage 90 with a 160 snuffer and a 42gr long aluminum insert i shot straight down into a big 170# doe and my arrow was sticking out the bottom between her shoulders, the bow was a 46# northern mist baraga with B50 non FF string.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: hvyhitter on March 27, 2023, 10:07:29 PM: Have no second thoughts with either snuffers or woodsmans. Used 160 snuffers on 2014s out of daughters 42# recurve to take a fat Ohio doe a few years ago to see just how well it would work. Arrow blew through on a broadside. ......YMMV....
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Terry Green on March 27, 2023, 10:24:49 PM: Are we still talking about this?

70# longbow and Wensel Woodsman, 2000#s plus.....

Surely you can shoot a 150# deer with a 3 blade. :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Bamboozle on March 28, 2023, 01:02:53 PM: Quote from: Terry Green on March 27, 2023, 10:24:49 PM
Are we still talking about this?

70# longbow and Wensel Woodsman, 2000#s plus.....

Surely you can shoot a 150# deer with a 3 blade. :bigsmyl:

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Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Jim Jackson on March 29, 2023, 09:39:42 AM: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: jesse cales on March 29, 2023, 05:32:43 PM: 70# :scared:
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: TwistedHollow on March 29, 2023, 06:52:32 PM: I like the Wensel woodsman’s and had success with them but had a hard time getting them sharp. VPAs are also a nice head
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Bowwild on March 29, 2023, 09:16:26 PM: As a 26" arrow shooter, a longer arrow out of the same draw weight may be about 30-36 grains heavier (if shaft weight/inch are identical), but I don't think the draw length matters as long as the draw weight at the different draw lengths is identical. Once the arrow leaves the back of the bow, no more force can be applied to the projectile.

Of course if one is using a bow that is 40#@28", the 26" draw will produce less energy out the front than any longer draw would.

I have only shot one big game animal that I consider not thinned skin ( TX boar). I've shot bear, whitetails, mule deer, and pronghorn with 2 and 4 blades. Great placement, sharp, and stable arrow flight = dead.

By the way, that Boar wasn't even shot with a "broadhead". I was a guinea pig (no pun intended) using a -4 cable bladed "head" called the atom. I was astonished at the effectiveness of this head. However, I never hunted with it again. Boy, I'd bet it would should hammer squirrels though!

All said and done though, I'm more comfortable with 2-blades even though I have no poor reports otherwise.

I should add, it has been 47 years since my last physics class, so I am more than grateful to be reminded. :)
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: JohnnyBa on March 30, 2023, 06:45:01 PM: Quote from: Tim Reese on March 11, 2023, 08:46:42 AM
I’ve killed the majority of my deer with 40-45# pound bows and the OG wensel woodsmans. No issues at all. I have switched to mainly 2 blades but only for options and I can sharpen them better imo. Still have and will use the WW’s as I need. All were pass through. Arrow get hung up on feathers a lot but always two holes.

Just being nosy, and the fact that I really don’t know, which two blade is the preferred BH for 45# draw weight? Not sure why, but I like the looks of the single bevel Eskimo’s. Thanks, John
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Mint on April 10, 2023, 04:44:57 PM: I've been using, woodsman, snuffers, palmer extreme cuts, phantoms out of my 47lb Palmer recurve and haven't had a problem on deer. For hogs i switched to a simmons big two blade really liking the land shark and had no problem getting passthroughs on hogs.
Title: Re: 3 blade with #40
Post by: Terry Green on April 11, 2023, 01:57:38 PM: "I dont think many can pull 70# anymore, i know 2yrs pulling 67# i needed shoulder surgery"

Some of us aren't pansies.

If anyone has to have surgery from pulling a bow has NO IDEA what they are doing in drawing a bow. ZERO!!!