Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: bowzonly on March 03, 2023, 06:08:16 PM
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Are they still in production
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I don't know. They were Sponsors here for years back in the day. But I quit trying to get a hold of them a few years ago.
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Yes, but going to an electronic only format.
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That's it for me then.
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Likewise.
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Why is that? You read this stuff electronically. Why not a magazine?
I'm by far not the most technologically capable individual but I still have paperless bank statements, billing and payment as much as possible.
If you enjoy it, peruse it online.
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I very much prefer a print magazine, but the reality is there is no way to publish a niche publication like that without bleeding money.
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Sent a payment for a back issue a couple months ago and haven’t received. Having trouble contacting. E mail unable to send, phone # not in service
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I do most of my relaxation reading in the evening in bed as I unwind from the day. Can't take my computer to bed. :saywhat:
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I do the same Dave. Only on my iPad. I will support these publications that go digital. I even read books on my iPad. Keeps from cluttering up my house with books that someone will throw out when I am gone. It is very expensive to have a paper magazine now. Bout like having a landline phone. Times are changing. Remember those old washing machines and TV’s? It’s called progress.
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I dunno. I hear what you're saying, JR, but one year I was persuaded through some promotion to subscribe to Traditional Bowhunter on the internet rather than paper through the mail. That year, I found myself reading very few issues. It just wasn't the same as having TBM on the table next to my chair, so the next year I switched back to paper. OTOH, I don't mind reading my morning newspaper on my iPad. I read it while I'm having breakfast, and it is just as easy to prop up my iPad, probably easier, than it is to prop up a newspaper.
I guess it depends on how you like to read it. Once I’m done with my breakfast, I’m done with the newspaper, and don't want to see it again. I don't have any birds that need flooring or fish that need to be wrapped. But my TBM, I like to pick it up at my leisure over a week or so after I get it.
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Uh, JR, I still have a land line phone too. Cell signal out our way can be pretty poor at times. I really don't like being forced into all the digital stuff at my age, I guess. :dunno:
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I do understand that Dave. If I did not have a cell signal I would have a land line phone as well. Are to change. And you are right. We are being forced to change or fall behind.
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We have a landline for one purpose. If we dial 911 and lay it down the police will show within 5 minutes. Long enough for me to eliminate the threat or if I cannot speak due to a health issue . . .
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Hmmmmm. I don't want to speak for Tom, but I talked with him briefly two weekends ago at the Wisconsin Traditional Archers annual banquet. Tom told me the reason for the change is financial. With higher prices for paper, printing and postage, he said he is losing money with every issue he publishes. He simply can't afford to keep offering a print version. Hope those who like the magazine will do what you can to support him.
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Lots of mags are in the same boat with the rising costs of everything
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From a business standpoint, I would recommend that he still offer customers an option. Over a few years, the price to subscribe to my local newspaper went from about $125/year to $700/year for the print version. The internet version is still $125/year. I don't know of anyone, certainly not me, who would subscribe to a newspaper for $700/year, but there must be some or they wouldn't keep offering it. I feel better about deciding myself to switch rather than having it forced on me.
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yea. No one wants to be forced to switch but at some point someone will be forced to switch
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I understand that both Primitive Archer and Traditional Bowhunter are going digital. I don't care for it but will give it a try. I prefer to read while sitting back in my easy chair, so I am not sure how well this will work out. I get a couple of newsletters online, and seldom do more than a quick glance.
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I'll second what McDave said, and add the magazine is heavy on color photos, and shy on advertisers. I think raising the price for the added quality, add a plastic mailer and offer a digital for 1/2 price. Whatever needs to be done, should be done.
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Gentlemen, it’s advertising that pays for publishing a newspaper or magazine. Learned that way back when newspapers were a dime and magazines were a quarter. We did a cost analysis in my graphic arts (printing) class. Remember those Sunday papers with all the color sections full of adds? The Chicago Tribune weighed a couple pounds. The paper used costed almost the newsstand price. The internet has killed print advertising like we knew it. I liked that magazine but somehow I didn’t get a renewal, print or internet.
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The problem is not the digital format, that's going to be an economic necessity. The problem is that the website, which is the only way to subscribe or buy the magazine, doesn't work well. Many of the links don't work, info links are grouped under "shop", the pdf back issues purchases don't work for some computer and phone systems, and the contact info doesn't work. The subscription info page does not say if it's paper or pdf. It says it is "available for download through apple or android" but I have no idea what that means as I have not found it on either system. In general, the website is so poorly designed that it discourages people from giving them money.
If some of you know Tom C and can actually communicate with him, please recommend that he find someone to fix the website before it finishes driving him out of business. I would hate to see us lose yet another good trad archery publication.
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One more thing, the latest available issue to purchase is Summer 2022, which gives the impression that they're already closed down. Is that true?
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I just bought some pdf back issues form them. They took my money but the confirmation process doesn't work (maybe because I'm on a Mac?) so I can't actually get the magazines. The last time this happened it took several months to get it straightened out. This is why they're having trouble.
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Yea Traditional Bowhunter will be going digital soon as well I would say.
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Traditional Bowhunter is not going digital now and in the immediate future.
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