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There are many versions of arm guards with shape, size, materials and attachment systems all at the maker's whim. However, as the proud owner of at least a 1/2 dozen or more I have come to recognize one annoying item, which is the attachment hardware. Working with the assumption that most arm guards " these days" are made of leather and use elastic cord I will go on from there....
I spend a lot of hours in the Fall and winter in a tree stand, and I prefer to sit. I even shoot from a sitting position. I have repeatedly found that the button/hook on the underside of the forearm will catch on some fold of clothing and make a small noise when one moves (and of course often at the least appropriate moment. The antler buttons which have been the most popular type for a longtime seem to be a particular culprit and bigger is NOT better. Small metal hooks seem to be better yet, but not perfect. I do have one single guard that I got at the Baltimore Bowman shoot years ago made by a parttime crafter, that has the cord tied directly to the underside and hooked on top with small metal hooks. This is the best design that I have seen to eliminate the problem but is a rarity. Just sharing
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Here is a picture to make the point. Oops, I just discovered that I also have one of first ones from way back in the day that is what I am talking about. No wonder that I liked it so much that it was my arm guard for all of my trips to Africa. Easy on, easy off and comfortable ( the dark one with lighter side bars and hooks just on one side)
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Nice collection!
I've noticed this also. I was shooting one with big antler buttons with no problems. I switched bows and was hanging up on it all the time.
I've got an idea to make my own. I have some soft leather and I'm going to put grommets in and lace it up and put one of those plastic spring keepers on the end of it. You will be able to pull it taught and run that spring down and hold it. It should be totally snag free.
Good discussion.
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I use an armguard every time I shoot, not to protect my arm from string slap but to keep my sleeve from getting in the way. I've never noticed the problems you mentioned and the 2 armguards I use, one has brass hooks and elastic cord the other antler buttons and elastic cord..
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Make my own with leather tied to bottom and antler buttons on top...no issues other than keeping track of it
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I’m kind of simple ol’ geezer and I just cut a piece of cowhide, shape it a bit, experiment with some leather stamping for looks, and tie in some elastic. Easy on, easy off, no noise and cheap. I’ve had this one going on four years and maybe replaced the elastic once. And, you can adjust for more or less clothing by retying the knots in the elastic.
Honest Jon
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Try this.
Jon
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Arm guards are cool.... They add a bit of decoration to your otherwise drab looking shirt sleeve, and they serve a purpose..... I never use one on a bare arm or tight sleeve shirt, but it's winter time with heavier clothing that they are necessary to keep your coat sleeves or cammo sweat shirts out of the way.
The best arm guard solution i've come across is cutting the toe out of a knee high set of nylon stockings. Actually the heavier support hose , or tights are better yet. You can buy them in black or dark brown too.
Or if you are brave enough, you can raid your wives stocking drawer. :o :o :o I've been using them for many years, and they work excellent. They hold your coat snug to the forearm, and if the string grazes it, it makes no noise..... Laugh if you want, but give it a try sometime. You'll be amazed how well this works. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Kirk
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I make mine almost like a gauntlet, and use buttons with bungie hair holders made by Goodies.
This design keeps my coat sleeve out of the way and with the buttons closer together, they dont snag on anything.
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Very nice, Dale.
:thumbsup:
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A stick bow shooter without an arm guard is like Robin Hood without his feathered cap. :biglaugh:
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I make one where the shape and hooks are out of the way. I’ll have to take a pic. They’re made for right or left hand shooters can’t be switched. I guess this is unfinished but the hooks go on the high side out of the way.
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Man that floral carved guard from Scott Teschner is something else. I regret not getting one when he was still making them. His work with them is some of the classiest I've ever seen.
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Not having shot that long, -1 yr, I have never had the need arise to have to use one. I shoot recurves, 66” down to 56”, 8 bows total, and have only just grazed my arm a few times. Seems it happened worse on a long bow with no real riser thickness, limbs just slightly thinner than grip area. Not a comfortable bow to shoot, lots of hand shock, so I gave up on long bows then, now want another. If the need arises I think the elastic type straps that can be pulled on and over either bare arm or clothing would be best. Probably will be asking more though as the times come.
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Not having shot that long, -1 yr, I have never had the need arise to have to use one. I shoot recurves, 66” down to 56”, 8 bows total, and have only just grazed my arm a few times. Seems it happened worse on a long bow with no real riser thickness, limbs just slightly thinner than grip area. Not a comfortable bow to shoot, lots of hand shock, so I gave up on long bows then, now want another. If the need arises I think the elastic type straps that can be pulled on and over either bare arm or clothing would be best. Probably will be asking more though as the times come.
I find them most useful in winter just to hold back the bulk of a coat or jacket sleeve, especially when hunting where my form/body position is rarely ideal and when you often only have one shot to make it happen. To go out in the back yard and enjoy some time with a stick and string, I pretty much just grab my bow, 2-3 arrows, and shooting glove. I often don’t even bring my quiver.
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just for fun
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Beautiful leather craftsmenship everyone !
Matt..I'm really liking that Wolf bracer/arm guard ;)
Very Nice !
I 'm one that used to always wear one, but like mentioned above ...In warm weather with short sleeves or tight early season jacket I've seen no need for me to use one. Sometimes a thicker one actually increases the chance for contact/noise due to it.
Not advising never wearing one. The ladies almost all have to due to how most of them have arms that bow the wrong way extended ;) , and many Men and women have a shooting form/body build that also mandates the usage
of one ......So everyones milage will vary in that reguard ......
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I really like Matt's arm guard too...
Well done. :thumbsup:
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Thanks I mess around with leather work, it’s enjoyable. I’ve just found that some shapes don’t feel right or don’t hold clothing back enough or won’t stay put. So I came up with a shape that just works. I like lacing over bungees for hunting because it’s so easy to adjust. Messed with all of it. I only wear arm guards when hunting. Typically not practicing. Practice guards I make thinner and use bungee usually.
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I wonder if you can get someone to make one with a leather flap that covers the attachments?
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I've had quite a number of armguards over the years with different type of connections. I've never had any problem ever with
catching my clothing or now string even shooting a longbow at some extreme cant.
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I have found I only need them when wearing bulky clothing, but I too want nothing with large buttons on it. :coffee:
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I am glad to see all the comments. I just wanted to restate the point that my problem with the attachments on the underside is related to sitting and having my arm resting on my leg/lap. Then, if/when I move my arm it is not unusual to catch or tug on the cloth and either make an undesireable sound, distract my attention, or require a larger movement to undo the hangup. When standing or day-to-day shooting, I don't see a problem. I do have to say that elastic cord revolutionized the whole thing. My first armguard was like a "bracer". With small brass hooks and a long leather lace it was functional, but a little bit difficult to make adjustments once "strapped in". I was not unhappy when elastic cord became the way to go.
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They can also protect you from a broken Carbon arrow going through your arm. I have seen it.
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Yikes! And I thought that rough fletching tearing up the web of my bow hand, a big welt on my forearm, and debree splashed back in my face was all I had to worry about when I shot my arrow. Not counting losing the arrow, breaking a shaft with another arrow strike, and having to replace the broken nock or a lost arrow was ALL that I had to think about. I probably won't stop wearing an armguard after hearing that last one. And I wear glasses anyway :)
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I had the same thoughts about arm guards. Came up with this design; [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
It's not perfect, but it does not hang up or grab stuff. The bungie straps are probably a better solution, but I hate anything elastic, so that was not an option for me.
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Interesting and very nice. Thanks for posting