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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: arrow30 on January 16, 2023, 03:50:00 PM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/e_hLLNNwD0Q?feature=share
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Omg glad she is ok!!! That sucks. :scared:
Kinda excited to see what she buys next to replace it. She is a good shot
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Unfortunately I’ve seen some quality control issues with some of the new production Bear Grizzlies. Mainly dry glue joints (kinda) like this. I shoot Bear Kodiak takedowns, and I don’t have any problems with mine. But then again, Bear is a top mass production company, U.S. that is. We often don’t hear all the raves about how great bows are, or how satisfied customers are. When something fails, that’s usually when we hear all about it…..
Still, it looks like they got some QC issues needing addressed.
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It happens. I had a Dick Robertson Montana Falcon Takedown's upper limb break on me in 1998. Dick Robertson replaced the limbs for free. It can happen with any brand bow, production or custom.
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My guess?? She left it strung, in the sun...??
Old Bears, can give up the ghost at any time, but this appears to be a new bow. (quiver bushings)
Also, it's sunny, and she's wearing a tank top. It appears to be warm out.
Years ago, at the White Mountain Traditional Rendezvous in New Hampshire, I saw the same thing happen.
A guy had a (few years old) custom Robertson Stickbow lower limb fold on him.
He had left the bow strung, and laying on a picnic table, in the shade under the pavillion.
In the coarse of an hour or two, the sun had moved and exposed the lower limb to the sun.
This created a temperature imbalance between the two limbs, and to not draw equally, causing the collapse.
At least that's how it was explained to us, by a vending bowyer there.... :dunno:
I'm glad she wasn't hurt too!!
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With my Dick Robertson Montana Falcon failure according to Dick Robertson it was a bad glue line. Like I said he build me new limbs at no charge, so all was good. Any bow old or new could give up the ghost, depending on if there is a defect or how it was treated. Heck, I got a 1956 Bear Polar that's still going strong. :thumbsup:
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I've had 6 blow ups 3 recurves and 3 ASL's, 1 Black widow, 1 bear T/D Mag handle, 1 RER limb on Bear T/D, 1 Zebra ASl, 1 Bighorn ASL and 1 Golden Eagle ASL. All went while at full draw 56-88# so It can happen to any of them.
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6!!! Holy crap. I can see one or two in a lifetime but 6!! Lol. Man hope you were never injured in any of those
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yep. It can happen and does happen to all kinds of bows.
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I've had it happen to me once. I personally think it was a design defect by the bowyer, but I have no way of proving that honestly.
I've also wondered if shooting too light of arrows ever has anything to do with this, when I was younger I disregarded arrow weight and just shot whatever we had.
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No Tim I wasn't injured in any of the blowups. 2 of them were Bamboo and just folded over, the timing was bad on 2 of them, it was just before big hunts to BC and Alaska but it would have been worse if I was already on the hunts!
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Buckeyebowhunter,I think your right on both your points. I know of a couple guys that like to shoot light arrows because they like the speed, but the bows they had did'nt last and the new ones they have will probly fail also, they both have at least 30" draws, and are shooting recurves at 60" or under, and 45lbs draw, also they use the step through method to string and unstring. There pretty good shots and I believe it makes them think they know more than they really do. If you make your own Bows for awhile you can usually tell when some one is using a Bow not designed for them and others uneducated in the basic care of there Bow, all of which can lesson the life of a Bow. A well made Bow should last a long time, I have a 1960's Bear K Mag my first trad bow, flea market for $10, left it in the work van strung all year, to this day it still shoots fine and no limb twist, I'm talking below zero and likely over 110 degrees. Not a good thing but just sayin, I know better now.
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I had a Morrison Dakota blow at almost full draw once. My son was standing behind me, but luckily the pieces hit me. I sure scared the stuff outta me! It failed where the laminations butted against each other in the handle at the glue joint. I had been hearing intermittent ticks, but thought it was the string wax sticking. It was a good shooting bow too.
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I had two bows fail - one blew up , rather got cut down on full draw (the string ripped down the nocks to mid limbs and the other was shot 10 times and gave up the ghost when strung and left sitting in the bow stand indoors.
Scary stuff and glad no one on this board has been injured
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With any material , it's not "if" it's "when" ;^)
Might be tomorrow ....might be several generations down the path....but all will give-up-the ghost if used .
I have a 59 griz still going strong ! I had a custom go after about 10 seasons . She gave warnings before letting go ,and like others above ...luckily she folded more than a clean break. The warning signs were a changing brace=tiller, followed by a very slight click . I pushed the envolope knowing what was likely to follow....I will NEVER order a bow without it being elm limbs. I believe that the toughness of the elm limbs saved the limbs from a clean break . She simply let go through the glue line.
I'll never again own a gull-wing hot-rod design . Just don't trust them due to the force they are under. Just me.
On the young lady and her bow giving up the ghost on video.....She does a lot of trick shooting I think ? Twisting a bow around shooting also places great stress on the bow and glue/lams. Not making excuses , but recurves are more susceptable to torquing , and light weight -thinner limb lams even more so I would think. but really , who knows why that bow let go.... :dunno:
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My 1971 bear victor viking take down top limb blew at full draw. But it was 40 years old and thousands of shots.
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I'd imagine that bow has been shot quite a few times, way more than most.
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Shooting bows with light weight arrows can be hard on them. Those are the ones that give up the ghost first.
Good old rock hard maple cores are the way to go in recurve limbs. I prefer that over elm any day... Kirk
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I wouldn't argue about Hard Rock maples toughness nor would I over a respected bowyers preferred limb wood of choice...Bear archery has also proved that over a lot of years/bows :biglaugh:
I was simply stating "for me"I prefer Elm for a lot of reasons. Beauty/weight/splitting strength be a few...
I fully agree on the light arrows as well Kirk ;)
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Friends,
I think there is a lot going on there that we don't know. The bow did not break as she got to full-draw, but rather when she released the string. I suspect it is an old bow designed for B55 strings that is now set up and probably shot many times with a new low-stretch string. She was also having trouble holding at full draw and the nock might have slipped some. I don't think we can conclude too much until a lot more detail is known.
I had a Bear Take-down break a limb on me. It happened as I was approaching full draw with the third or fourth arrow in a 10-arrow quiver. I found that the screw that held the latching lever for the limb clamp was preventing the latching lever from fully engaging. I fixed it the riser but needed new limbs. When I contacted 3-Rivers they told me they would cover it under warranty but because I was so short of time I just bought replacement limbs and went hunting. The 50# Bear Cheyenne if bought as a back-up is SWEET!
I don't think we can infer anything about that bow without a ton of additional detail that isn't in the video.
Best Regards,
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Right before Christmas I had a Dwyer Original Longbow blow up on me right as I hit my anchor point. I’m not sure how but some thing rapped the knuckle of my middle finger on my right hand hard enough to leave a deep bruise. It’s still a little sore.
To be clear: I’m not knocking Dwyer. I bought that bow used in 2017. I shoot on my own property so it probably had 30k shots through it. It was also tillered to 28” and I wonder if my 31” draw length helped do it in.
It gave me the excuse to order a Howard Hill tillered to my draw length. It will be nice to have a bow with my name on it instead of some other guy’s too.