Post by: Buggs on October 04, 2022, 06:32:41 PM
I've been wanting a fine finish pneumatic for a while and finally decided to treat myself. I like sanding, but I hate the dust and don't have a downdraft table. Plus this will speed up the process and its made in the USA!
Now I just need some bionic hands
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Post by: Mad Max on October 04, 2022, 07:32:34 PM
Post by: Kirkll on October 04, 2022, 08:04:34 PM
The only electric palm sander I’ve ever used that comes close to those in balance was the high dollar Mirka sanders that ran an ac/dc transformer. I had one for almost 10 years and sent it in for repair last year. That’s when I found out they discontinued that model and replaced mine with a wee bit larger sander. I wasn’t happy about that, but I’ve got used to the new one now. It has an unconditional lifetime warranty. Free repair and shipping cost.
On some projects I’ll use my pneumatic more than the electric one. Kirk
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 04, 2022, 08:07:51 PM
Post by: Buggs on October 05, 2022, 10:40:30 AM
But I could not find a 3/32" orbit, pneumatic with vacuum port. I have an inexpensive electric R/O sander that has very good dust collection, but its for rough sanding and I have to wear gel motocross gloves or my hands go numb after a few minutes.
I went with the Dynabrade because of where its made, quality, and its completely rebuildable.
Post by: Kirkll on October 08, 2022, 12:28:34 PM
But…. My old compressor had a quicker recovery than my new one does. It had bigger cylinders in it. That makes a difference too.
Kirk
Post by: Buggs on October 08, 2022, 03:15:25 PM
The 25 is a screamer, so I have them staggered so the 60 takes most of the load.
Post by: Kirkll on October 09, 2022, 12:12:22 AM
Post by: Bivyhunter on October 09, 2022, 10:16:29 AM
https://www.airvantagetools.com/product/1st-generation-5-electric-random-orbital-sander-kit-central-vacuum/
Post by: Buggs on October 09, 2022, 10:31:54 AM
I could not tell from their website where they are made?
Looks the the parent company is in Taiwan.
Post by: Kirkll on October 09, 2022, 11:03:57 AM
I've been using an AirVantage 12v DC random orbit sander now for the past 7-8 years. They are lower profile, lighter and very powerful. I've got the 5" PSA non-vac model, but they are available in a lot of different configurations: 5" or 6", 3/32" or 3/16" orbit, vac or non-vac and PSA or Velcro attachment. I've used their service department for repairs and they are fast and reasonable. Shipping is fast (shipping from CA) and their products are designed well and have held up well with daily use. Below is a link to their site where they can be ordered directly, but you can save over $100 by going to the big A site. I REALLY can't reccomend their products highly enough. I visited BW's shop earlier this year and was talking to their guy that does their limb tips. He'd been using a Milwaukee palm sander for years. I bought another AirVantage and shipped it to them, it's hard to see a fellow bowyer using a tool that has a better replacement on the market.
https://www.airvantagetools.com/product/1st-generation-5-electric-random-orbital-sander-kit-central-vacuum/
That sander looks very similar to what Mirka was offering and I ran for 6-8 years the balance is incredible for doing tip overlay work. It’s I; th3 same price range too. Kirk
Post by: Kirkll on October 09, 2022, 11:07:01 AM
Looks like a nice sander Bivyhunter :thumbsup: 12v huh, You off the grid?
I could not tell from their website where they are made?
Looks the the parent company is in Taiwan.
Those 12 volt DC sanders use a converter, and are the lightest weight of all electric sanders. Actually lighter than the pneumatic models and very powerful. Kirk
Post by: Buggs on October 09, 2022, 11:18:01 AM
That was premature, I just went back and opened up the catalog section and they do give specs.
That sander weights 100% more than the Dynabrade pneumatic 5"
Post by: Kirkll on October 09, 2022, 01:27:42 PM
Hard to tell about the Airadvantage, they give zero specs on the website.
That was premature, I just went back and opened up the catalog section and they do give specs.
That sander weights 100% more than the Dynabrade pneumatic 5"
Well it looks like you got a winner then bro! i'm not sure what my Mirka 12 volt DC unit weighed, but the size and balance was the same as the pneumatic without an air hose.
i bought a cheap pneumatic 6" that i run a 5" disc on last year while waiting for my Mirka to be repaired and i sure wasn't happy with the power it had. I think you get what you pay for some time. :knothead:
Post by: Buggs on October 10, 2022, 11:06:59 AM
I was at the HF store and saw this "Industrial Air Filter" for $13! Of course I knew it is a piece of crap, but for that price I figured I had nothing to loose by trying to make something functional out of it. This is what is inside the can;
A lot of air and this little ceramic(?) filter. This thing is not even sealed to the housing, its held in place with a grip washer on the thru bolt. Truly a P.O.S.
This what I came up with;
The ceramic filter is pressed into a silicone washer at the top and sealed to the thru bolt with a rubber stopper and the whole thing pressed into place with the springs. The tube was added so the intake is at the bottom of the can instead of the top.
Then I filled the can with cat litter (Zeolite)
Bingo! Industrial air filter
I use compressed all the time, for blowing dust off lams, spraying finish, sanding, etc.
Hopefully this will prove to be an inexpensive alternative to a true industrial air filter.
Post by: Kirkll on October 10, 2022, 01:56:35 PM
Post by: Buggs on October 10, 2022, 05:36:49 PM
What are ya gonna do when your cat starts cocking his leg on your new air filter bro? :o :o :o
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Post by: Kirkll on October 10, 2022, 07:05:04 PM
Kirk
Post by: Buggs on October 11, 2022, 10:10:08 AM
Post by: Buggs on October 12, 2022, 09:58:44 AM
I had to smooth all the contact and mating surfaces. The cylinder was not square, had to lap the ends. Replaced the O rings on the nuts and polished the gaskets. I even had to tear down the regulator, it was leaking so bad!
I did end up with a functioning filter for about $25. but I can't recommend this for anybody who does not have time to kill.
Post by: Kirkll on October 18, 2022, 11:56:37 AM
It’s similar to the paint pump rigs professional painters use, only smaller. But…. They are expensive…. Kirk
Post by: Stagmitis on October 19, 2022, 09:29:25 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Fuji-2804-T75G-Mini-Mite-PLATINUM-Gravity/dp/B00D4NPPNM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2T1O41V1SENQW&keywords=fuji%2Bmini%2Bmite%2B4&qid=1666130893&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjYwIiwicXNhIjoiMi4zMiIsInFzcCI6IjEuNzkifQ%3D%3D&s=hi&sprefix=fuji%2Bmini%2Bmite%2B4%2Ctools%2C94&sr=1-1&th=1
Post by: Buggs on October 19, 2022, 11:16:50 AM
For the $1000. or more spent on a plug and play turbine unit, I think I would get an 80gal compressor and a really "Bitchin'" gun
Post by: Kirkll on October 19, 2022, 02:59:51 PM
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Post by: Bryan Adolphe on October 21, 2022, 11:08:59 AM
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Post by: Buggs on October 21, 2022, 01:03:27 PM
It is strange the way its elevated with those struts.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 21, 2022, 01:42:49 PM
I paid $1200 for mine.
Post by: Kirkll on October 22, 2022, 11:10:07 AM
Kirk
Post by: Buggs on October 22, 2022, 02:42:42 PM
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Turned it into a ramp and indeed table with the addition of one sawhorse
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Turns out the dang stave splitter is good for farwood too!
Post by: wood carver 2 on October 22, 2022, 03:23:27 PM
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Post by: Buggs on October 23, 2022, 10:16:21 AM
Post by: Kirkll on October 24, 2022, 10:52:04 AM
I’ve been walking funny ever since though… :biglaugh:
I finally figured out the starter is bad in mine, but haven’t replaced it yet. Have no idea where to get parts for the old motor it has on it. I may just up grade to a bigger motor. My wood splitter is huge by comparison. The ram came off a D8 cat, and it has a hydraulic crane.
Post by: Buggs on October 24, 2022, 09:59:23 PM
Actually I'm not a fan of the wood splitter. I only burn a couple cords a season, and have always enjoyed chopping the stuff. Reached an age where I am picking my battles more carefully :tongue:
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on October 25, 2022, 07:58:15 AM
I need to order some belts what are The most used sanding grits for bow building ? 36-40 grit and ???
Cheers Bryan
Post by: Buggs on October 25, 2022, 09:16:43 AM
You should be able to modify and improve that unit easily. A quick search on y-tube, shows its a popular machine to build. Lots of good ideas
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36grit for hogging off material, 80grit for more delicate work. Everybody has their own preferences.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 25, 2022, 10:30:00 AM
Post by: Kirkll on October 25, 2022, 08:24:38 PM
Looks like you got Doug Fir and Alder, there Kirk. Thats a lot of wood. You heating a warehouse or a communal sauna? :biglaugh:
Actually I'm not a fan of the wood splitter. I only burn a couple cords a season, and have always enjoyed chopping the stuff. Reached an age where I am picking my battles more carefully :tongue:
Yup! good old doug fir......For many years i heated the house and the shop both with woodstoves burning 8-10 cords a year sometimes. The shop burned more that the house did. That old splitting machine i have has split 100's of cords of wood over the years. I've had it for about 25 years. It was built by a rancher/farmer up the road from me back in the 80's , and he used it for many years before selling it to me. He bought a big acre ranch in eastern oregon and didn't want to drag it over there. I bought it for $250.
I got rid of the shop woodstove 2 years ago, and put a propane heater out here. With the cost of firewood going up so high, its cheaper running propane. The days of free firewood are gone in oregon. Its going for $200-$300 per cord now buying it cut and split, and more for hardwood like oak.
I had a deal going for a few years with a buddy that had timber land. he would deliver it in rounds for me to split for $150 per cord. I did that for a few years. Saved me a lot of time and gas money going up into state forest land cutting in permit areas.
Now every time i start wrestling cord wood i pay for it for 6 months. I haven't been the same since i ran a splitter last spring with wyatt helping me. This getting old sucks! Kirk