Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Cward on May 07, 2008, 09:43:00 AM

Title: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Cward on May 07, 2008, 09:43:00 AM
PICTURE ADDED ON PG 2.

Hi to all. I'm new here and a new traditional archer. Know NOTHING, but have picked up some tips here already. I just aquired a Browning Medallion recurve bow from my dad that my mother bought him new the year I was born! I'm in the midst of cleaning it up. It's a 64" AMO, 41# bow at 28".
Wondering right off if someone could advise me on what string and string length I should get and a good starting point arrow? I shoot at 29" draw length, and planning on 100 or 125 grain tip. ??
Thanks in advance and thanks for having me at such a neat site.     :wavey:    

Cward
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Longbow rookie on May 07, 2008, 09:49:00 AM
Welcome and good luck!  Sounds like you're off to a good start.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: joseph_valencia on May 07, 2008, 09:53:00 AM
Welcome Cward, you will find lots of answers on this site, some one more knowledgeable than I will chime in soon.  Again welcome to the TradGang.  :wavey:    :campfire:
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Gatekeeper on May 07, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
Welcome to the site

Here is a AMO standards site  http://archerysearch.com/publications/AmoStandards.pdf

I am not sure when you were born but you will probably want to use a Dacron string on an older bow.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Migra Bill on May 07, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
As far as the string - it should be about 4 inches shorter than the AMO- so go with a 60 inch string. As far as the material of the string you want B50 Dacron - stay away from fast flight. Now arrows - many choices here. You should decide if you are gonna shoot woodies, aluminums, or carbons. No wrong answer here just personal choice. I went with aluminums (took cost and durability into account). I shoot 40 and 45 pound bows and they love my Easton XX75 Camo Hunters in 2016. 2016 is the key and should shoot great out of a 41 pound bow.

I hope I've helped. Just 3 months ago I was in your shoes; I was asking all these same questions. Good luck and good shooting.

Bill
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Cward on May 07, 2008, 10:15:00 AM
Thank you very much for the information and the hospitality. I will go with the 60" Dacron string and I'll give the Easton 2016 a try.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: workin at it on May 07, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
No answers for you. New here also.

But... you are going to looooove this site.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: LEOPARD on May 07, 2008, 10:30:00 AM
Welcome to the gang!  :wavey:
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: smilinicon on May 07, 2008, 10:30:00 AM
that is a very special bow! Have fun shooting it. Learn a bit about setting the brace height when you get your string.

Cary
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Chris O on May 07, 2008, 10:33:00 AM
looks like you got some good suggestions for the string and arrows but welcome to the gang! You're gunna love it
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: just a bit outside on May 07, 2008, 10:40:00 AM
As a new shooter, and if you don't mind spending a few extra bucks (not much, maybe $20)... you might want to consider shooting carbons. Something like Gold Tip 3555. They are virtually indestructable and they will last you for a long time. I shot aluminums for a little while and when I was a newbie, I would bend them all the time when I was stump shooting. I tried woodies too and instead of bending them, I would shatter them. It took me a little while to get competent enough to be comfortable shooting woodies or aluminums. Carbons are fast and extremely durable. For $65 to $85, you can get a set of GT 3555 or Carbon Express that will last you for years. I've had my set of GT3555's for two years now and I'm only missing one.

My .02 cents. A lot of shooting is about personal preference.

Greg
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Cward on May 07, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
Good point about the carbons! Thanks!

What would yall think would be a good brace height and nock point starting point on this bow?
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Gatekeeper on May 07, 2008, 11:23:00 AM
I tried to find that information on the web but I didn't have any luck. My guess is within the range of 8.5" to 7". Your arrows should weight 10 or 12 grains per draw weight or 410 to 500 grains.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: pjsnell on May 07, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
What type of shooting do you plan to do?

I've been shooting for about 6 years, and I mostly shoot target and 3D.  I have yet to break or bend an aluminum arrow, although I've lost about a dozen.  

I would get half a dozen aluminums as your first set, so you can get out and shoot as much as possible.  The suggested size from Migra Bill should work for you.  

If you want tough shafts, for stumping, try 5/16 ramin from one of the sponsors (git-r-done archery for example) at a buck a shaft, it's a lot less distressing when you loose one (and you will).
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: shade seeker on May 07, 2008, 01:47:00 PM
This IS the cyber campfire that welcomes and speaks great wisdom... I'm new too -- glad you discovered the pursuit of all pursuits.

shade seeker
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: The Whittler on May 07, 2008, 08:00:00 PM
Welcome to the gang, and I would try some 1916.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Bear on May 07, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
Welcome!!!

Start with 2016, GT 3555 (see Sipsey River for absolute best price), or wood in the 45-50 range. Use what ever is cheapest and easiest for you to build with your current tools. Assuming you dont have dip tubes, stain, paint, etc. that would mean either carbon or aluminum. Don't get too hung up on it, this isn't a permanent decision and I'd be money you'll move past this first set very quikly.

Use big feathers and don't get hung on all the tuning. As long as they don't kick noticeably call it good. Your form and release will develop a lot and now is no time to ruin your progress with a bunch of stuff that will only frustrate you and distract you from the basics.

In short...shoot, shoot, shoot! Work on form, release, and accuracy, and don't be in a rush to go worrying about your arrows, or your bow for that matter.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Killdeer on May 07, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
"Use big feathers and don't get hung on all the tuning. As long as they don't kick noticeably call it good. Your form and release will develop a lot and now is no time to ruin your progress with a bunch of stuff that will only frustrate you and distract you from the basics."

Exactly!  :readit:  
But I woulda suggested 1916s too.
Killdeer  :D
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: bayoulongbowman on May 07, 2008, 08:47:00 PM
ur shooting about 44 pounds , vaporwood 2000 from sipsey river should work cut ur arrows about 31 1/2...mark
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Wednesday Caste on May 07, 2008, 08:49:00 PM
Before you get the arrows and string, be sure to get a bow stringer!
Quinn
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: just a bit outside on May 07, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
Bear makes a great point.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: frassettor on May 08, 2008, 09:15:00 AM
Welcome aboard
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: leatherneck on May 08, 2008, 09:32:00 AM
Welcome. And Bear hit it on the head. Start with Carbons or Alum. so you don't have to worry about your shafts and concentrate on your form. G.T. 35/55 should work for you. My Bud shoots the same as you and he cuts them at 30". Don't cut them off too short right now until you get your form down. You can take it off later but you can't put it back on. I like the big feathers as well(5 1/2") Good Luck and welcome again!
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Cward on May 08, 2008, 02:45:00 PM
Thanks very much everyone!
I am gonna go and make up some Easton 2016's with 5" shield cut barred feathers and a right helical and cut them at 30" lg. Ordered a string from Goldenhawk on here. I'll post a pic when I get the bow and arrows finished up. Again, thanks for the welcomes and great advice.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Mr Green 740 on May 08, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
welcome I shoot gold tip ultralight 600's with 3-5 inch shield cuts. My shafts are cut at 29 inches with my draw at 28 inches. I shoot  145 grain heads but they will fly great with lighter heads. Please take my advice and have someone who knows what they're talking about take the time to explain gap shooting. In my honest opinion for a beginner this us the best way to learn form and the basics. You'll probably hear a lot of guys tell you about instinctive this and that but trust me when I tell you if you learn the gap style FIRST instinctive will be much easier. If you have any questions and want honest straightforward answers feel free to P M me and I'll try to help you avoid my mistakes!
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: ductape on May 08, 2008, 10:39:00 PM
Welcome to camp!!  :wavey:    :campfire:    :coffee:
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Cward on May 15, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
Here's the bow with a new string from Goldenhawk.
Great guy to deal with!

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm283/cward_album/Browning.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: joekeith on May 15, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
OK......how does she shoot ?  :archer:
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Gnat on May 15, 2008, 11:10:00 AM
I'm new at this as well. A couple tips that I've found to help with my shot a lot:

Keep your weight more on the balls of your feet, knees slightly bent.

Focus your draw on your back muscles, between your shoulder blades.

Your draw arm should be an extension of your arrows, going straight back behind it (elbow in alignment).

Perhaps most importantly, and noticeable in making my shots better: push the bow towards the target slightly as you release (let your fingers relax and the string push them away). Keep aiming; don't drop your arm until the arrow hits.

You can feel it immediately as a good shot when you follow through with good form...and bam, the arrow goes right where you want. Well, every once in a while, anyway.  ;)

As far as arrows go, I've lost a dozen already. I have yet to damage any carbons, but ruined plenty of fletching by shooting into the ground. In general, don't get anything too fancy. Seems like carbon is the way to fly.
Title: Re: I'm a new archer....PIC
Post by: Traditionalfirst on May 15, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
The string sounds good, we all have a favorit arrow to shoot. I like the gold tip traditional carbon arrow. They come in a few spines from 35 to around 95 I think. Good luck and keep us posted. And welcome aboard.