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Title: Sanders and such
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on July 11, 2022, 02:28:20 PM
Let's talk hand sanders. What do you use that you find invaluable.  I use my mouse sander religiously and hardly ever my nice orbital. Occasionally will use my 1 " belt sander.

Anyone use the 1/2 " handheld belt sander (air file type)?

Looking for ways to speed up the shaping of areas such as the shelf, window and handle area.

I have roughed in my windows and shelf on my milling machine but it is at another location. The bandsaw leaves a lot of work to be done.

What are your go to sanding and removal tools?
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: OldRawhide42 on July 11, 2022, 03:49:53 PM
I use a electric grizzly 1/2 x 18  ( T10745 ) for the shelf  after the milling . I like it a lot. Do not get the one from HF  it lasted 2 bows
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Buggs on July 11, 2022, 03:59:11 PM
I use a spindle sander sometimes for rough shaping. If possible, I prefer holding the bow, rather than the tool.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 11, 2022, 05:11:43 PM
My most used sander for risers is my Rigid oscillating belt/ spindle sander. I like to grind a notch in my shelf to give some more clearance for the fletching, so I do that with a round rasp and a small half round rasp that I bought for carving. I do most of the sanding by hand. Not that I like sanding, but it just seems right on a riser. I have a Grizzly 1/2” X 18” sander as well. I used it when I built a two piece take down bow. It would be good for the sight window, but I usually forget I have it. 🤔
I also have a Dremel oscillating saw/sander with a nice triangle shaped sander. I like it for getting into tight corners.
Dave.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Longcruise on July 11, 2022, 05:40:52 PM
I use a spindle sander sometimes for rough shaping. If possible, I prefer holding the bow, rather than the tool.

I do similar using a Rigid oscillator.   On risers, I often attack with a farriers rasp then clean up and shape on the Rigid with 36 grit. 
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: jess stuart on July 11, 2022, 05:58:38 PM
I use a spindle sander and a orbital sander a bunch when shaping and finishing risers.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Mad Max on July 11, 2022, 09:32:48 PM
I do the belly profile and the left and right profile on the edge sander then rasp and sandpaper wrapped around a 6" ruler. Takes about 2 hours. :saywhat:
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Mark R on July 12, 2022, 01:00:13 PM
I shape my handles mostly with different size drum sanders and carbide wood grinding sleaves in hand held electric drill
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: kennym on July 12, 2022, 04:46:00 PM
I had one of these for awhile , just put a bolt in it and used in a drill. Worked pretty well but I gave it away for some reason...LOL

https://www.amazon.com/Astro-235RASP-2-5-Buffing-Wheel/dp/B00CDDDDEW/ref=sr_1_26_mod_primary_new?crid=2WWJETWJVWLOD&keywords=tire+buffer+wheel+3%2F8&qid=1657658582&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=Tire+Buffer+Wheel+%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-26
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Tim Finley on July 13, 2022, 10:35:46 AM
drum sander on a flexable shaft
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Mad Max on July 13, 2022, 11:08:56 AM
I have a drum sander that hooks to a drill but I don’t use it much
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Longcruise on July 13, 2022, 11:18:25 AM
I had one of these for awhile , just put a bolt in it and used in a drill. Worked pretty well but I gave it away for some reason...LOL

https://www.amazon.com/Astro-235RASP-2-5-Buffing-Wheel/dp/B00CDDDDEW/ref=sr_1_26_mod_primary_new?crid=2WWJETWJVWLOD&keywords=tire+buffer+wheel+3%2F8&qid=1657658582&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=Tire+Buffer+Wheel+%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-26

Wow.   Looks like something that I could do some serious damage with.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: kennym on July 13, 2022, 12:43:17 PM
Actually worked pretty well.   And just reverse drill to keep workin glass into wood...
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on July 13, 2022, 02:07:32 PM
I have one of those as well for a 4" grinder. They are great for hog work . They throw  A LOT of dust and wood every where though.
I juts ordered a 1/2 handheld belt sander. Can't wait to try it out.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: kennym on July 13, 2022, 03:29:41 PM
Here ya go Mike, this will make short work of a bow...  Maybe the whole bow... :laughing:

https://www.amazon.com/Arbor-Wood-Carving-Chain-Disc/dp/B087DYWX38/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=37AMNYS8N9Y5M&keywords=carving+tool+for+grinder&qid=1657740501&sprefix=carving+tool+for+grinder%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzSkYxRTlJSUk5TVNHJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDY5OTQ0MkNKTDA0REVCVlZUNCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTUwNDE5MVVLT0tDWEhTME9YUSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 13, 2022, 04:14:51 PM
Here ya go Mike, this will make short work of a bow...  Maybe the whole bow... :laughing:

https://www.amazon.com/Arbor-Wood-Carving-Chain-Disc/dp/B087DYWX38/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=37AMNYS8N9Y5M&keywords=carving+tool+for+grinder&qid=1657740501&sprefix=carving+tool+for+grinder%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzSkYxRTlJSUk5TVNHJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDY5OTQ0MkNKTDA0REVCVlZUNCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTUwNDE5MVVLT0tDWEhTME9YUSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
I have one of these. It’s hands down the most dangerous tool I have, but boy, can it remove wood! In half an hour, it will do what I can do by hand in a day.
There are two rules that I follow religiously with this tool. Never lock the tool in the on position and always wait for it to stop spinning before putting it down.
Dave.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: kennym on July 13, 2022, 04:54:20 PM
It about scares me to look at that thing.   :o

I would think kickbacks would be easy and one handing could cost a lot of flesh and bone...
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Longcruise on July 13, 2022, 06:11:50 PM
Not a tool for me!  Too scary.

Otoh, I can see trying that super gouger thingy.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 15, 2022, 09:49:15 AM
I go from hatchet to drawknife to stationary  8" belt sander  fr roughing out the bow. I only do all wooden bows. Jawge
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on July 15, 2022, 05:18:01 PM
My new 1/2" handheld belt sander arrived!
This thing I really believe will be great for sanding the shelf area.
Variable speed and swiveling head.
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Kirkll on July 15, 2022, 10:59:51 PM
I use a spindle sander for the grip. start out with 36 grit to rough it out, then use 50 & 80 grit. the fades and tapering for the over all riser shape is done on the 80" edge sander. Same thing, start with 36 grit then down to 50. The shelf cut out is done on the bandsaw, then i use a die grinder with 36 grit to rough out the shape and site window. Then i use a palm sander with 80, 120, 220 to finish sand using a sanding sealer.... after she looks good, i sand the whole thing with 120 and 220 by hand.   hole process takes about an 445 minutes to an hour max.

My palm sander is the the one i spend the most time with and i spent some money getting one that was balanced well.   Worth every penny too.

https://www.amazon.com/Mirka-MID62520CAUS-Direct-Electric-Orbital/dp/B00RZSV0N6/ref=sr_1_5?crid=24V0QJ1UWBXW9&keywords=mirka+6+inch+sander&qid=1657940253&sprefix=Mirka+6%27%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-5

Kirk
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Jeff tech on July 16, 2022, 05:44:52 PM
I like to tape off where I want to grind to the glass to. On the riser. Then I get out my 6-in and 24 grit handheld grinder, for my body shop days. Want and then step down to an 80 grit on my palm sander DA. I know a lot of you guys are scared of the 6-in grinder but hey I've used it for 40 years. I'm used to it. I know it's not for everybody. JF
Title: Re: Sanders and such
Post by: Kirkll on July 16, 2022, 07:48:07 PM
For grinding limb glass, and laying out the width profile. I use a limb pattern made from Formica and just spring clamp it to the limbs, then use spray paint to paint the outline.  I use no masking tape until I’m boring the limbs.   36 grit on the edge sander makes short work of it roughing things out. Then use the electric or DA palm sander for finish. I like the balance of the small DA sander better than the electric, but the Mirka 6” with a 5” pad is pretty well balanced too.    Kirk