Post by: Russell Southerland on June 02, 2022, 06:45:48 AM
Post by: Michael Guran on June 02, 2022, 08:39:27 AM
Post by: woodchucker on June 02, 2022, 09:00:15 AM
If he runs down the mountain, he's out of sight in about 30 yards.
It's mostly hardwoods & mountain laurel. Unless you're in the Hemlocks, you can't see much more than 50yds.
Post by: Sojurn on June 02, 2022, 10:38:29 AM
It's thick here.
Post by: Orion on June 02, 2022, 11:35:08 AM
Post by: LookMomNoSights on June 02, 2022, 11:46:11 AM
Always shooting through holes around these parts. Always a split second to make it happen before your view is obstructed. Not complaining, it's all a blast :thumbsup: :archer2:
Post by: Pine on June 02, 2022, 01:09:18 PM
Makes me wonder why some people think they need a weapon that can shoot over 100 yards. :biglaugh:
My brother-in-law once said about deer hunting here "First they surprise you, then you surprise them "
Post by: Terry Green on June 02, 2022, 07:17:37 PM
I have never killed an animal with a narrow 2 blade and I don't think I ever will unless I get gifted for an Asiatic Buffalo. From bunnies to 2000# American Bison with 3 and 4 Blade heads. I have killed 5 animals with WIDE 2 blades, one from each of the following, Large Bone Buster Abowyer, Ace Super Express, Zephyr Sasquatch, Custom XL Original Silver Flames, and a Battle Axe. All else multiblades, mostly Zwickey Delta 4 blades, several including the Bison with Wensel Woodsmans, a few VPAs, and one Simmons.
I am on the EXACT same page as Cory Mattson when it comes to Bheads, he ran a hog lease for YEARS and took notes on all hits/recoveries and he banned two blades from the lease after he saw enough data. I've been on and ran bunches and bunches of group hunts and took notes myself and came to the same conclusion.
I pass though 90% of the animals I shoot through giving 2 holes and 75% are complete pass throughs. Either I peg the off side leg bone/shoulder(which results in quick DL kill anyway) or I'm shooting hogs from a tree stand and the arrow passes through but hits the ground on the opposite side because they aren't as tall as a deer and they run off with my arrow(this would happen also with a 2 blade). I've never had an issue of not getting two holes unless its the issue mentioned above on the off side stoppage. I might have even gotten two holes on the Bison but I pegged a rib on the off side as it was scratched up really bad and also nicked.
I always encourage those that come on hunts with me to use multi blades or wide 2 blades, but it's just a recommendation.
Now, here's some pics of where some of my critters run in TX....
Look behind me, that is what I dragged this javie out of last year....
And this is where one of my javies ran into this year....
And look behind the other javie I killed this year....
This is where this hog came from and ran back to, and this is considered OPEN where we hunt in TX. That light area upper right is a stock pond between the prickly pears and those far off trees.
This one one of two hogs that charged me on this hunt and this one was shot at night, while Michael Langahans was holding a flashlight on him and he tried to leave this small opening in the brush, and he dropped right where he lays...
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*** I'll be back after supper with some GA, AL, FL and SC pics. ***
Post by: Terry Green on June 02, 2022, 09:07:56 PM
Two more TX pics coming up... then other states as stated....
Post by: Terry Green on June 02, 2022, 09:12:26 PM
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Post by: Terry Green on June 02, 2022, 09:36:48 PM
Drug this one out for a pic to the opening of 'Little Cambodia' my friend Keith dubbed this laurel thicket...
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Drug this 10 year old sow out to this old logging road for the pic, she was in that white pine thicket behind me where I shot and found her.....
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Honeysuckle thicket within a thicket.....
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SC..... another drug to the opening for the photo...
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AL..... Quail....
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**** These next two will qualify for what to expect in SC, FL, and GA in the swamps.... ****
Post by: Terry Green on June 02, 2022, 10:03:41 PM
This was the 3rd Hog that has charged me I shot.... Was with Curt n Cade....
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**** So as you can see, I like running big nasty Broad Heads through them as I want to let the air and blood out of them right now****
Post by: Wudstix on June 02, 2022, 10:12:04 PM
:campfire: :coffee: :archer2:
Post by: Cory Mattson on June 03, 2022, 04:31:37 AM
I never thought about east and west before but yes I’ve seen all of the animals I hit fall. This includes multiple Elk which seems crazy to me. Mule deer too. A bunch of em. All I can remember now.
Here in the east the results have varied a lot along the learning curve mid 70s till now. What we did see starting a little over twenty five years ago is that we hear most of our animals crash. And we see a lot crash. Probably 40% we see go down in varied covers that are pretty thick. I don’t have pics of the cover because I take a picture of every animal as it lays when I walk up then immediately text some friends. This doesn’t show the cover really. THICK Deep South and I’d include a lot of Texas in this yes it is so thick most of our covers the animal is out of sight in ten yards but we hear most of these crash. 80%. We expect to hear them crash.
Yes we have a lot of data. Much of it started in the early 90s when we hunted Texas every year. Results from our groups and hundreds of other bowhunters each week most years multiple weeks. We almost opened our Savannah River Bow Zone in Texas we had several ranches that wanted us but we ended up closer to home.
We’ll cover broadheads elsewhere, much to share. Covered up at work right now.
Good Hunting <><
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Post by: Terry Green on June 03, 2022, 07:18:19 AM
Here in the east the results have varied a lot along the learning curve mid 70s till now. What we did see starting a little over twenty five years ago is that we hear most of our animals crash. And we see a lot crash. Probably 40% we see go down in varied covers that are pretty thick.THICK Deep South and I’d include a lot of Texas in this yes it is so thick most of our covers the animal is out of sight in ten yards but we hear most of these crash. 80%. We expect to hear them crash.
We’ll cover broadheads elsewhere, much to share. Covered up at work right now.
Good Hunting <><
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Yep!
Post by: smokin joe on June 03, 2022, 05:24:00 PM
Post by: Sam Spade on June 03, 2022, 08:11:15 PM
Post by: Mike Malvaini on June 03, 2022, 09:50:56 PM
Uh, yeah, that's thick. Not the 'golf course' terrain we have here.
Yep! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Post by: GCook on June 03, 2022, 10:23:07 PM
I use wide two blades to get as much blood on the ground and brush as I can. Every now and then you get to see one go down. But it's the exception. Still cool when it happens though.
Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on June 04, 2022, 06:13:59 AM
Here in the Midwest in the type of cover I hunt whitetails I see about 1 out of 5 or so go down. Hear most of them crash.
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Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2022, 08:30:40 PM
I love these photos of the thick stuff where it is tough to see very far. It makes me want to go back to that thick cover in Texas ASAP.
They make me just want to go somewhere period!!!!
Post by: smokin joe on June 05, 2022, 11:02:27 AM
Here is an example of the advantage:
At the last Trad Gang Laredo Tusk Hunt, I shot a javelina that we could not find. There were just a few drops of blood in thick cover. We went back after dark and Terry saw the nock glowing. The arrow was still in the dead javelina and he had not gone more than 30 or 40 yards total through thick cover. We would never have recovered that animal without the use of a lighted nock.
Of course, many, if not most, shots will pass through. But the occasional arrow that stays in might result in some recovered meat if I use a lighted nock. I see it as cheap recovery insurance in thick cover.
By the way, that Laredo Tusk Hunt cover redefines THICK. It is incredibly dense and everything has thorns.
Post by: Russell Southerland on June 05, 2022, 02:36:51 PM
Post by: soap creek on June 05, 2022, 04:21:33 PM
Post by: GCook on June 05, 2022, 05:35:12 PM
Welcome to Texas. Fangs, stingers, thorns and spines .
By the way, that Laredo Tusk Hunt cover redefines THICK. It is incredibly dense and everything has thorns.
Post by: Jim Jackson on June 07, 2022, 11:05:11 AM