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Title: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Sologuy on March 17, 2022, 08:38:15 AM: Id like to hear opinions on this from some who USE it

Thnks
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 17, 2022, 10:20:09 AM: They don't sell it any more. Moot point, unless you have back stock on hand to use up.
Vinyl sealer is good stuff and available everywhere.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 17, 2022, 10:20:20 AM: If you refer to the vinyl stuff it works well if you apply with a foam brush.
But a lot of sanding afterwards.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 17, 2022, 10:30:08 AM: Stic, lot less sanding if you spray it, rather than brush it.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 17, 2022, 12:15:52 PM: Never tried spray but think it may dry in the air before it gets there. :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Sologuy on March 17, 2022, 01:59:31 PM: Quote from: Flem on March 17, 2022, 10:20:09 AM
They don't sell it any more. Moot point, unless you have back stock on hand to use up.
Vinyl sealer is good stuff and available everywhere.

Vinyl sealer ??
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 17, 2022, 02:08:38 PM: Like this;

It's real common. I think every paint store, like SW, BM, etc. will sell their own version.
It's nitro-lacquer based, so it dries fast and sands easy. As long as you don't brush it on. :smileystooges:

Forgot to mention that some vinyl sealers can be used either stock or catalyzed, if you really want bomber base coats.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: bjansen on March 17, 2022, 03:30:56 PM: I love the high solids vinyl sealer from TB. I used it for years and it really works well to fill grain. I have never tried the ML Cambells, but looks promising. I have tried some from Sherwin Williams that I did not like that much.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 18, 2022, 12:01:11 PM: Actually, this is the stuff I have been using;

I've not tried the quick dry. I prefer the water white with a lacquer base sealer, because they have a tendency to yellow over time. That and the W.W., can be catalyzed. Vinyl sealer is pretty tough stuff to begin with, but catalyzed, it's armor.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 18, 2022, 03:11:13 PM: How much for a gallon. Does it use the same Cat as regular varnish?
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 18, 2022, 03:40:58 PM: I don't remember what it cost, but I do remember thinking it was reasonable without shipping costs. Unfortunately the local mom and pop home center that carried Campbell's sold. Might be the last gallon for me!
It uses the same catalyst as Krystal and a few other products
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 18, 2022, 04:43:34 PM: I got a home center about 60 miles that will order the ML Campbell stuff. The varnish was $64 a gallon. Guess I give them a call.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 19, 2022, 12:49:32 PM: Considering the cost of shipping hazmat items, plus the cost of fuel, driving an hour is probably economical.
Especially if you consolidate your shopping trips. Last time I checked, shipping a gallon of finish added close to 50% to total cost!
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 19, 2022, 07:11:49 PM: Yeah be cheaper to drive.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 21, 2022, 07:01:54 PM: Getting a gallon of the ML Campbell tomorrow.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 23, 2022, 03:02:01 PM: Well just sprayed the first Cambell vinyl sealer. Have to say sealer is about all it may do. It is water thin no buildup at all by spraying. :dunno:
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Flem on March 23, 2022, 03:06:55 PM: It's not epoxy. Will take multiple coats if you need some heavy build.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 23, 2022, 04:35:37 PM: Not real impressed so far. But will try several coats and see what happens.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Sologuy on March 23, 2022, 05:24:00 PM: So..... I thinned up some Thunderbird, wiped it on and started sanding with 220.... let it fill pores..... worked pretty good
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 23, 2022, 09:27:35 PM: You can spray several coats of epoxy gloss and level most woods if you can afford it.
Thinking of getting some of the seal cote shellac to try also for buildup.
Title: Re: Thunderbird High Solid Sealer...... anyone using ???
Post by: Sologuy on March 24, 2022, 06:44:31 AM: I tried that....its sooooo much waste, and time so I been wiping it on....