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Title: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 08:53:57 AM
Building a bow to paint and possibly use this fall if it shoots as good for me as my ol faithful.
Will be a 3 piece with hard maple riser laminated from 1/4” slices of flat grain from a really heavy board .

Gonna go with .0025” per inch taper and some streaky glass I put back from orders .

64” again but with a tip wedge 6” inside nocks of .060 to 0 instead of the super lam .

Here’s the start of her...


Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2022, 09:13:52 AM
What's ya gonna paint it up wif? A camo paint job or solid color?
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 09:15:35 AM
Saw a camo paint job on pow wow awhile back done with loofa sponges that was cool so gonna try it
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2022, 09:32:54 AM
I've stained BBO bows with a wash cloth and the little threads that stick up on it made cool little lines on the bow..
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: Pat B on February 04, 2022, 09:55:04 AM
A regular kitchen sponge makes a good pattern maker. I use it on leather a lot. I made a belt recently using the method. I've also made stencils from leaves and bunches of leaves with spray paint on bows and tree stands. It works good.
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: Mad Max on February 04, 2022, 09:59:55 AM
Watching  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shredd on February 04, 2022, 10:12:44 AM
Cool...  I am Guessing it's gonna be a R/D bow???
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 10:34:32 AM
yep d/r for me!!
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 01:18:39 PM
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Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: Bvas on February 04, 2022, 01:41:14 PM
Sponges? Wash rags?  Loofa????

Just refreshed my browser. I thought I had ended up on a Martha Stewart site by accident.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Started another project
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 08:04:10 PM
LOL Brad !!

I cut the pads to 12 degrees today , one was not zackly square with side of riser so hit it on the 6x80 a little til it was right

Then pulled out a self centering jig that I’ve had awhile and messed with it a bit

Got it drilling in center of a scrap block and drilled one end of riser perfectly!! Man this is great I thought.

Second end not quite perfect so I’m wondering if when I glued and clamped the 6 pcs of maple, I put different pressure on back and belly of riser or something.

I think it will work tho
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 08:25:45 PM
Little change of plan , found some brown glass with damage enough I won’t sell it. One 040 and one 050, limbs are short nuff to cut damage out...

Now to decide to go with 040/040 or 050/030

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Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 05, 2022, 08:33:15 PM
Well it ya go 50 30 50 on the belly. :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 08:39:42 PM
Yep , I haven't decided but if I go 50/30, it will def be 50 on belly!!
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2022, 07:41:11 AM
Ha! Another change in plan, remembered I had one pc of black .030 so its gonna be black and brown glass!!

Lams and wedges and tip wedges are made , glass taped up, ready to mix glue for it and the shortie...
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on February 07, 2022, 10:53:23 AM
Maybe I overlooked it,but what weight are you shooting for?
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2022, 12:13:11 PM
Guessing about 45@28
But using maple and not boo, more taper, tip wedge so  :dunno:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2022, 12:50:12 PM
First limb in oven with shorty
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 08, 2022, 04:38:21 PM
Here’s how I keep tip wedges in place without elaborate pin system . LOL

Notice the dots on lam edge for nock and 6” in for wedge




Then just apply glue and fold back on lam , tape holds wedge in place and acts as a hinge...

Just make the wedge plenty long and cut to get feathered end where you want it.
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: OldRawhide42 on February 08, 2022, 05:26:46 PM
Kenny what kind of glue ???
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 08, 2022, 05:32:35 PM
Sorry ea40 and done at limb glue up

I wasn’t real clear on that
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 10, 2022, 08:33:02 AM
Are they still in the oven :laughing:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 10, 2022, 06:27:00 PM
2nd one is...

Don't you have somethin to glue together?  :laughing:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 10, 2022, 11:17:44 PM
2nd one is...

Don't you have somethin to glue together?  :laughing:


I got the glass today but still waiting on the glue, maybe tomorrow
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 11, 2022, 08:22:53 AM
DATE   TIME   LOCATION   STATUS
Feb 11   6:10 AM   Batesville, MS, United States   Out for delivery, expected delivery by 9:00pm

Better take ya a nap, so you can work tonight!  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2022, 08:32:54 AM
 :coffee: :o
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 12, 2022, 02:19:07 PM
A little snaggle , with my drill jig the limbs didn’t line up so good so I drilled pin holes to 5/16” for the 1/4” pins . Put a pc of Saran Wrap over the pin on riser and as close to bolt as possible. Waxed the glass around the pin hole , slapped as much Ea 40 in hole as I figured it would take to fill around pin and put limbs on . Adjusted to center limbs over riser center and limb bolts and letting it set up. Hope it’s still a three piece ... :laughing:

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Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Bvas on February 12, 2022, 05:41:12 PM
We have a saying. It’s not a f*#k up if ya can fix it.

Hope it works out for you.
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Buemaker on February 12, 2022, 05:48:40 PM
Good idea. Hope you still have a three piece.
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 12, 2022, 07:39:38 PM
Hmm shoulda drilled all the way thru the limb and went to fastenal and got some 5/16 Dowell then overlay the limb.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 12, 2022, 07:48:51 PM
I reckon I could have but I don't care for overlays on limbs on a TD ... :dunno:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 12, 2022, 08:04:02 PM
Well phoey  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 12, 2022, 08:17:35 PM
LOL that’s just me :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2022, 01:45:19 PM
Limbs came right off! All good.  Now to shape on em a bit...
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2022, 04:00:41 PM
Finally got to work on her some more. 

Limbs mounted

Riser roughed in

Had to shoot it, seemed pretty good so I checked speed just for giggles.

47@28

Spare string off my hunting bow, one set of wool puffs, 2 tied on string nocks.

523 grain  (11.12 gpp)  176 FPS

519 grain (11.04 gpp)   179 FPS

472 grain (10.06 gpp)   184 FPS

423 grain (9.00 gpp)    192 FPS

This was off a shooter, so prob deduct 4-5 for fingers

I'll take it tho!!  :thumbsup: :)

Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2022, 04:21:54 PM
Nice...  Great speed...  I find it tough to get past that 184 mark with an R/D bow...
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2022, 04:38:25 PM


472 grain (10.06 gpp)   184 FPS

423 grain (9.00 gpp)    192 FPS

This was off a shooter, so prob deduct 4-5 for fingers

   

And deduct another 2-3 for a tight nock...
And another 2-4 for wrong spine...
And another 2-4 for bad form...
And another 1-2 just because...

That brings you down to about 167 to 169 FPS...
That bow sounds a little slow to me... You better start over...    :laughing: :laughing:

   You better off just saying that you used a shooting machine and leave it at that...   :)
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 18, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
Okay now unstrung strung and FD pics.
That 10 gen. Speed pretty good.
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2022, 05:46:27 PM
Or maybe...

And add another 2-3 for a properly fitted nock...
And add another 2-4 for right spine...
And add another 2-4 for my precise form...
And add another 1-2 just because...

 :laughing: :laughing:

These arrows weren't tuned at all, just stuff I had to get weight close.

Mike I'll shoot some pics tomorrow . Maybe even a full draw... :biglaugh:

Oh, I'll be hunting with the 11+ grain ones, so I'm not too concerned with the speed anyway...

Now to shoot her for a bit and be sure the grip suits me completely before I
 paint her... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Jeff Freeman on February 18, 2022, 08:17:46 PM
Finally got to work on her some more. 

Limbs mounted

Riser roughed in

Had to shoot it, seemed pretty good so I checked speed just for giggles.

47@28

Spare string off my hunting bow, one set of wool puffs, 2 tied on string nocks.

523 grain  (11.12 gpp)  176 FPS

519 grain (11.04 gpp)   179 FPS

472 grain (10.06 gpp)   184 FPS

423 grain (9.00 gpp)    192 FPS

This was off a shooter, so prob deduct 4-5 for fingers

I'll take it tho!!  :thumbsup: :)
those are good numbers Kenny 🏹👌
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2022, 09:47:41 PM
  Hell Kenny... In that case you might have a world record...   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2022, 08:15:48 AM
  Hell Kenny... In that case you might have a word record...   :biglaugh:

I'm way past worryin about any records... :laughing:

I just want a decent performer that shoots nice. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 19, 2022, 08:37:09 AM
Is this one a design you already had or something new?
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2022, 09:14:32 AM
Had it for a bit but only built a couple off it . A modified td . Added some reflex ...

Kinda expected it to be hard to shoot but it’s not .
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2022, 09:14:44 AM
Picturesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :dunno: :tongue:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2022, 10:15:53 AM
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The strait edge shows nock to nock and total reflex from back of bow
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
Maybe could go more reflex but at some point she will get torquey
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2022, 10:59:50 AM
Nice Kenny
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: B-JS on February 19, 2022, 11:13:40 AM
Looks good to me.
A lot of reflex also can also result in Handshock and nervous Shooting.
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 19, 2022, 12:13:17 PM
If those limbs arnt floppy that looks good. How does it feel after the shoot?
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Longcruise on February 19, 2022, 12:24:13 PM
Think you nailed it, Kenny.  Good speed and well behaved! 👌
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2022, 05:34:25 PM
Shot it some outside in the snow, it will work !  :thumbsup:

About ready to paint, was gonna shoot it awhile first, but with paint, I can sand on it anytime and add a bit of paint!
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Buemaker on February 19, 2022, 06:05:28 PM
Looks good
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 08:57:44 AM
The hard maple riser surprised me , looks decent with clearcoat on it but still gettin camo paint.

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Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: OldRawhide42 on February 20, 2022, 09:22:19 AM
Kenny how close to center did you go ?
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 10:24:04 AM
Cut not quite a 1/32 from center. 
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 11:33:29 AM
Just before she turned gray...

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Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2022, 12:05:19 PM
Looks good Kenny. It’s got nice curve’s. Don’t get overspray on the John Deere
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 12:15:24 PM
That would be serious on either tractor. Renee claims the 4020 as hers.  :)
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 01:15:44 PM
Well she's gray and has the first of the other colors added, it is gonna be kick-a ... er butt, in my opinion  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 03:33:42 PM
Not gonna add the white , think this is camo enough...

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Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2022, 04:01:07 PM
Better not lay that down in the woods, it’ll be lost! I like it!
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2022, 06:32:31 PM
Nice Kenny :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2022, 07:57:36 PM
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Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2022, 10:52:37 PM
Nice camo job, what did you use to put the colors on :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 21, 2022, 07:54:42 AM
Used a loofa shower sponge thingey.  Worked pretty well seems like.
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 21, 2022, 08:14:07 AM
I am seeing two kinds of loofah. One looks like the plant  cut off the other is kind of a wad of cloth. I expect you used the wad one ??
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: kennym on February 21, 2022, 08:59:20 AM
Yes, the synthetic wad of mesh stuff . $ general or wally has them
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: Stagmitis on February 21, 2022, 09:17:00 AM
Man thats so cool looking
! :shaka:
Title: Re: Started another project 64” d/r td
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 21, 2022, 10:52:38 AM
You’re going to have to keep it on a lanyard so you don’t lose it.
It looks great.
Dave.