Post by: kennym on January 24, 2022, 03:36:50 PM
52” NTN, one taper at .001 and 2 veneers
Scrap together riser, so so curly maple veneers, hard maple taper
Drawn to 28"
Post by: Buemaker on January 24, 2022, 03:52:50 PM
Post by: kennym on January 24, 2022, 04:01:00 PM
Need to add a bit of reflex to give a bit more preload.
This one will go to a kid anyway. Being that short I didn't know exactly what to expect for weight. Didn't want an 80 # er
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 24, 2022, 06:48:50 PM
Post by: kennym on January 24, 2022, 06:58:19 PM
Post by: BrushWolf on January 24, 2022, 07:43:47 PM
Post by: Bvas on January 24, 2022, 09:53:16 PM
I originally built my shorty form with the intention of 52”, but got scared and ended up building a 54” off of it.
Post by: KenH on January 25, 2022, 07:03:53 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on January 25, 2022, 07:18:38 AM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on January 25, 2022, 07:26:36 AM
The guy had a 30" draw. I thought it was going to be horrible.
He collects Bear bows and he says they are his favorite for hunting.
He did say that he has let more go than he has kept in the 48" versions. He claims they are not all good and smooth like the one he has. When he runs across one like that he keeps it.
I only have a 27" draw, so works for me!
Post by: kennym on January 26, 2022, 04:31:21 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 26, 2022, 04:34:31 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on January 26, 2022, 05:10:19 PM
I would be interested in buying plans from you for a shortie! Post up the build if you dont mind.
Ken
Post by: kennym on January 26, 2022, 05:53:11 PM
Post by: Shredd on January 26, 2022, 07:28:44 PM
Just my two cents...
Post by: kennym on January 26, 2022, 07:31:42 PM
Post by: goobersan on January 26, 2022, 09:22:05 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 27, 2022, 09:26:28 AM
May need to shorten it a bit for more draw length.
Post by: kennym on January 27, 2022, 02:01:03 PM
How long is the riser ?
May need to shorten it a bit for more draw length.
Or lengthen the bow!! :biglaugh:
It's 14", hate to make less sight window... :)
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 08:45:18 AM
Hate to burn shop propane on nonprofit ventures... :laughing:
My dust collector moves a lot of warm air outside when I run it. So I avoid it when it's 0 outside, because that's what replaces the warm air sucked out! :o
Post by: Mad Max on February 04, 2022, 10:03:02 AM
James Parker setup
(https://i.imgur.com/5DlGixp.jpg)
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 10:33:10 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 04, 2022, 01:46:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7wspne3.jpg)
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 01:50:12 PM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on February 04, 2022, 03:11:18 PM
Post by: kennym on February 04, 2022, 08:08:55 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2022, 10:15:55 AM
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 12:09:11 PM
Notice the pc of masonite pressboard in there? I was out of the right thickness plywood to make it work so this is a scrapped together form. LOL
I just added a pc of black locust .075 to the face. My template had a void and the pattern bit bearing went in very slightly so I used bondo and still wasn't happy with it . So had a long pc of black locust in shop, sawed and sanded to .075 and put it on with contact cement.
Now feeling a bit fuzzy from fumes. May need another coat ... :laughing:
Post by: B-JS on February 05, 2022, 12:11:24 PM
I love serious preload in bows.
Hope IT won't shock.
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 12:12:55 PM
That's where I messed up on first form, didn't study my plan enough! :biglaugh:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 05, 2022, 12:54:44 PM
Kenny what riser length and forward taper. Don't think it will be to hyper.
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 01:19:17 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2022, 02:16:53 PM
Goin 14" again and .001 taper. No tip wedge on this one...
Watching this one closely.
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 04:59:52 PM
Post by: JGR1269 on February 05, 2022, 06:20:19 PM
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2022, 07:02:49 PM
Post by: B-JS on February 06, 2022, 01:21:01 PM
My 50" Kids bow works up to 30" without hard stacking.
If you ignore the fingerpinch.
Post by: kennym on February 06, 2022, 02:07:40 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 06, 2022, 04:11:52 PM
The trouble with short risers is steep belly ramps
Post by: Mad Max on February 06, 2022, 06:27:26 PM
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2022, 12:49:14 PM
Post by: kennym on February 10, 2022, 06:28:07 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 10, 2022, 08:32:40 PM
Post by: kennym on February 22, 2022, 09:45:22 PM
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 23, 2022, 05:19:37 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on February 23, 2022, 06:09:00 PM
Nope, hate this one more than the last! :tongue:😲🤔
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2022, 08:35:10 PM
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2022, 01:00:10 PM
And no pics of this turd... :laughing:
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on February 24, 2022, 02:17:36 PM
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2022, 05:04:33 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2022, 05:32:32 PM
We need pics, that way we don't make the same mistakes..
Ditto... Unstrung, braced and 28"... :) please...
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2022, 10:20:11 PM
2 outta three ain’t bad but ain’t good enough
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2022, 10:42:42 PM
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2022, 10:51:05 PM
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2022, 10:52:09 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 26, 2022, 12:19:24 AM
Post by: kennym on February 26, 2022, 10:01:47 AM
Post by: Carpdaddy on February 26, 2022, 10:29:35 AM
Who's the old guy drawing the bow for you 🤔Don’t you see the name right under his arm? That must be Big Jim? Sure got uglier since I last saw him! :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: kennym on February 26, 2022, 11:15:30 AM
Post by: Pat B on February 26, 2022, 11:26:48 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2022, 11:52:55 AM
Dude prolly doesn't even know his glasses and hat are on backwards:)
Post by: Stagmitis on February 26, 2022, 11:55:58 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2022, 12:25:49 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 26, 2022, 02:02:34 PM
Post by: kennym on February 26, 2022, 05:27:03 PM
I'm at a loss for words to describe this.
Dude prolly doesn't even know his glasses and hat are on backwards:)
You ain't at a loss for words... :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2022, 06:15:26 PM
:laughing:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2022, 02:47:28 PM
Post by: kennym on March 11, 2022, 02:49:11 PM
She's like a fun girlfriend , kinda fast but unstable...
Gonna be some pinch but I didn't really notice it. Told John he may need to shoot 2 fingers...
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2022, 04:46:28 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 11, 2022, 05:08:50 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 11, 2022, 05:13:03 PM
:o
Post by: Pat B on March 12, 2022, 05:38:30 PM
This is only an aesthetics view from a selfbow builder. The numbers show good performance. :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on March 12, 2022, 07:22:05 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 12, 2022, 09:28:59 PM
It would be cool if you put a built in lever on those tips. Just about 6 in. From the string grooves start a little kick back to about 3/4 in. I did it once by mistake. Kinda a tip wedge without the extra weight. Just stiffens that area some.
Post by: Pat B on March 13, 2022, 12:49:48 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 13, 2022, 08:01:44 AM
The tips don't come around like you and I are thinking of.
I guess it's ok:) :laughing: :thumbsup:
It's reflexed at the circle and the tips are way back, so the outer 3rd is working but not going to come around into a full arc.
Prolly why it's pretty fast..
I still guess it's ok:)
Post by: kennym on March 13, 2022, 08:37:32 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 13, 2022, 10:48:52 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 13, 2022, 11:27:09 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 13, 2022, 11:31:43 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 13, 2022, 12:41:06 PM
To my selfbow builder's eye, it looks like it's bending too much in the handle. I know the handle is deflexed giving that appearance but the limbs being mostly straight at full draw and not opening up more makes it look like that to me. To my eye, a deflexed handle bow looks best with an arch of a circle tiller. Roy usually gets a good circular tiller at full draw on his R/D bows.
This is only an aesthetics view from a selfbow builder. The numbers show good performance. :thumbsup:
I believe you hit the nail on the head when you said "The numbers show good performance."
It is difficult to get that kinda speed out of r/d limbs... That speed tells me that those limbs are bending close to optimally, if they were not you would lose speed... Sometimes things are not what they appear to be... Because of that recurve throughout the whole limb at brace the limb may appear to be bending more or less in certain areas when it is not...
My 2cents...
Post by: Shredd on March 13, 2022, 01:02:48 PM
That's not to say that you could change the bend on the limb and possibly get a more aesthetically pleasing bend ( or something close to what you think it should bend like ) And gain even more speed... Anything is possible... You never know unless you try... Each design holds it's own secrets... But it is in my experience that 184 to 186 fps tells me that the limbs are bending pretty optimally and it is in my opinion that is a good rule of thumb to go by...
Post by: kennym on March 13, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
It will have to wait til after turkey season tho, bro took it home along with my blind that I despise to sit in. He has the patience to kill one and a pretty good plan to get it done. His other bow is 64" , so a "shortie" might be better than a " longie" ... :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 13, 2022, 01:35:14 PM