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Title: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Mike L. on January 15, 2022, 05:19:46 PM
I’ve got some sheets of pepperwood burl veneer that seems just long enough that it might work for limb veneers, but it’s got a lot of checks and small voids.  I wonder if there’s some way to make it work, like possibly backing it with some thin maple veneers and filling in the voids with epoxy at glue up?  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Mad Max on January 16, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
I did this one time with some really thin Veneers.

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Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Mad Max on January 16, 2022, 10:28:27 AM
Or you could just use plenty of epoxy during glue up :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 16, 2022, 04:34:25 PM
Yep if you can spread the glue without them breaking use plenty of smooth on and fill the voids.
I got some buckeye veneers a while back that were backed with bamboo. Been too fragile on thier own.
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Bivyhunter on January 16, 2022, 07:48:35 PM
Cut your veneers to the width of your bamboo core tapers, lay them on your tapers and use a brown or black sharpie to color the bamboo taper where it lined up with the holes in the veneers. Then glue the veneer to the core, pressing them together flat, wrap in plastic wrap and clamp between two boards.
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Mike L. on January 17, 2022, 07:26:44 PM
So it’s workable to glue them to a backing and let it cure, and then do the normal glue up at a later date?  That’s awesome.  This stuff looks so cool with dye, too.  If I can get a few of these into a bow intact, I’ll consider that a win.  Thanks guys! 
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Crittergetter on January 17, 2022, 10:36:47 PM
Just add a little dye to your glue when you back them. That will fill the voids with a color of your choice and will add more character to the veneers when glued into the bow.
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Mike L. on January 18, 2022, 12:36:41 AM
Oh wow, those are gorgeous.  I’ve got some Micah powder for resin.  I wonder if that would work for ea40.  I’ve even got a glow in the dark powder dye, but I’ll probably save that for something less dramatic than Burl limbs.  I’m excited to see what I can put together with these.  I hear buckeye Burl isn’t strong enough for a riser, even stabilized with an i beam?  I’ve seen some guys use it; Maybe not the whole riser, but an accent. 
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 18, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
You can use buckeye in a riser  But you want more G10 and more or less have slabs of buckeye
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on January 18, 2022, 10:09:47 AM
I have a longbow with Buckeye Burl riser and limbs. Done by Ron Madden at Primal Tech.

It is just as you say, a G10 riser with Burl slabs and Burl Veneers on the limbs.

Gorgeous bow. Looks like mother natures camouflage !
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Crittergetter on January 18, 2022, 01:05:33 PM
Quote from: Appalachian Hillbilly on January 18, 2022, 10:09:47 AM
I have a longbow with Buckeye Burl riser and limbs. Done by “Randy” Madden at Primal Tech.

It is just as you say, a G10 riser with Burl slabs and Burl Veneers on the limbs.

Gorgeous bow. Looks like mother natures camouflage !
Fixed it for ya   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on January 18, 2022, 02:05:11 PM
Sorry about that! For the life of me I could not remember your first name!

Hope the family is doing well!

Ken
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Crittergetter on January 18, 2022, 06:49:44 PM
Lol, it’s all good man!
Wife is doing well, just trusting the Lord and taking one day at a time!
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on January 18, 2022, 08:27:37 PM
Very good brother! Thats all we can do!
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Arlo on January 21, 2022, 08:43:51 PM
Quote from: Crittergetter on January 17, 2022, 10:36:47 PM
Just add a little dye to your glue when you back them. That will fill the voids with a color of your choice and will add more character to the veneers when glued into the bow.


I'm curious what kind of dye you use with EA-40 ?
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: bownarra on January 22, 2022, 01:52:20 AM
Smooth-On sell a range of compatible dyes.
Title: Re: Burl for limb veneer
Post by: Crittergetter on January 22, 2022, 05:28:38 AM
Quote from: bownarra on January 22, 2022, 01:52:20 AM
Smooth-On sell a range of compatible dyes.

This^^^
I’ve used transtint dyes as well.