Post by: Terry Green on January 14, 2022, 09:11:57 PM
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From what I’m seeing the “New” crowd of traditional bowhunters spend most of their time listening to podcasts about saddles and lightweight climbing sticks etc. or high tech water proof pants lol. They are not interested in wood arrows or the history and adventure of the hunt.
Yes, so it seems. Not many telling stories like before, not many group hunts like before, not many how to posts as before. We have always had those types of posts mentioned above, but we've always have a lot of posts as those that are slim as of late as I mentioned in my 1st sentence.
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So the audience is there, but it is up to TradGang to learn to adapt to the modes of communication that appeal to it.
There is only so much we can do as we are a totally different platform than mainstream social media. We are much for functional as a resource for information, and much easier to find said info. Also, much easier to follow existing posts, and much more user friendly.
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nobody tells their hunting stories anymore, just look at the highlights page, 24 posts!
used to be 2 full pages of pics and stories.
Yes, and lots of those that use to do that have 'retired' and aren't asking to have their post copied to the highlights after the thread ran its course. I could search out a few and copy them over and the numbers would rise quite a bit.
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Most of those folks (you can fill in the blank of who you think they are for you) haven't been replaced and I think that is a big thing we see... I don't know these men personally and have only shared their adventures through their writings here, but the Giants like Charlie Lamb, Ron LaClair, and countless others can't be replaced.
Yep, they aren't being replaced, along with a lot of other hardcore hunters that shared their stories and info.
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I think less traffic on this forum started when the classifieds started charging to list an item for sale.
No, not at all accurate. We actually shut the classifieds down once as it was so bad, and I'm sure a few people left, but the new members never slowed down. Instead of closing it a 2nd time we just made it a perk for Contributing Members, up until then they were just Contributing Members.
Here are the new members that have joined since this thread started....
We gained over 1400 members in 2020.
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What happened is folks’ attention became split between special interest forums such as TradGang and other feeds like Instagram and Facebook and what not. There are still people here and still people talking online, they are just dividing their attention between more platforms.
Yes, absolutely. We were here 1st.... 2003. There was no facebook, instagram, youtube. Attention is being shared with a lot of other outlets. However, there are still a lot of people coming here daily, but they are not 'living' on Tradgang like they use to.
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If there was a "like" button here you would better gauge the amount of interaction that a post generates.
Pay attention to the views numbers, likes will only be reflected by those that actually click the button, but the views a post gets is the true number of activity a thread gets. Lots of folks that view aren't going to take the time to 'like'.
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When I lost access to the classifieds, I no longer had a motivation to go to TG so often. I'd start with the classifieds, and then end up all over the forum.
The Classifieds are an accessory to Heart of Tradgang, i.e. Traditional Bowhunting.
More in a bit......
Post by: Terry Green on January 14, 2022, 10:06:59 PM
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I understand why TG went to closed/pay-to-play classifieds, and I'm not arguing the point. I think doing so removed a perceived benefit for many and contributed to an eventual loss of momentum there.
Again, it never wavered the 1st time we shut it down and that lasted over a year. Again, see the Classifieds and History thread I just bumped up.
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One thing that turned me off about the classifieds section, it started at 30 bucks then went right to 35 bucks in a very short time.
1st, if you paid $30 and it went up the next year you renewed, I guess you could say a year is 'went right up in a short time' as time is relevant. But it was $30 for over 3 years. Paypal fees went up as well. Ever sell at $500 bow on Ebay? How much did they charge you for the one sale? If you ever paid with Paypal they got their fee as well. Credit card?
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I prefer this site, but it is difficult for me to navigate. I haven't lately, but in doing a search, it just doesn't respond as I think it should. No rhyme or reason to the info coming back. The age of the posts in the search seems to be mixed up so I get frustrated.
See the Search thread I just posted up.
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I also still have problems posting pictures... I'm sure these problems are related to my techno handicaps, but I can't be the only one.
Change the image size to a lower setting on your camera, and or your phone. If you don't want to change the size on your phone you can open the pic and take a screen shot and post the screen shot. That's what I do all the time, so problem.
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So many just love to see a wreck that they can't take their eyes off of it.
Yep, and we aint the Jerry Springer show.
All and all, we are still gaining one to 7 members a day and they are viewing but not posting as much as new members use to. I would like to see more 'mod alerts' if folks are being jumped on for legit questions. Again, the traffic is here, just not as much participation for various reasons I guess. One not mentioned as far as hunting post is that the pandemic and economy most definitely effected some peoples ability to go on hunting trips.
Our thread views and replies are a lot like instagam in a sense, lots of views and a small percentage of comments. Its always been that way here since we started in 2003, much more reading than commenting.
Trying to change while holding onto your original intent is very challenging. Thanks for bearing with us. :campfire:
Post by: Terry Green on January 15, 2022, 11:04:38 AM
Post by: Skates 2 on January 15, 2022, 11:14:56 AM
Most are too old now to remember the adage of 'Never look a gift horse in the mouth', but now people not only look the horse in the mouth, they are pissed that they weren't given a free saddle. The entitlement mentality has run amuck. Sounds like some people think they are not only entitled, but that the admins and moderators actually work for them as well. Doesn't sound like a Traditional Bowhunter to me at all, nor representative of this forum.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 15, 2022, 01:25:20 PM
Post by: Ronnie Newell on January 15, 2022, 03:53:05 PM
Post by: Daz on January 15, 2022, 04:31:23 PM
He will be censured for shooting too far, for not using a swing draw and for *gasp* using a range finder.
He probably hiked into an alpine basin to chase elk or mule deer utilizing some new tech gear (boots, backpack etc.) but he will also be jumped on for that as well. "He should wear wool. He wouldn't need all that stuff if he had better woodsmanship. etc. etc."
Sorry, but the new generation of hunters using recurves and longbows (especially those in the West) don't see themselves reflected on this site. For the older holdouts that insist that they are the gatekeepers to this way of life they have been bypassed and the world is moving on.
Post by: Terry Green on January 15, 2022, 05:23:49 PM
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He will be censured for shooting too far, for not using a swing draw and for *gasp* using a range finder.
He probably hiked into an alpine basin to chase elk or mule deer utilizing some new tech gear (boots, backpack etc.) but he will also be jumped on for that as well. "He should wear wool. He wouldn't need all that stuff if he had better woodsmanship. etc. etc."
Daz, mind giving examples of who's been censured for such stuff? And examples of who and where someone has been jumped on?
Post by: Terry Green on January 15, 2022, 05:27:34 PM
"The Tradgang this post describes I do not recognize."
Post by: Daz on January 15, 2022, 05:42:23 PM
QuoteHe will be censured for shooting too far, for not using a swing draw and for *gasp* using a range finder.
He probably hiked into an alpine basin to chase elk or mule deer utilizing some new tech gear (boots, backpack etc.) but he will also be jumped on for that as well. "He should wear wool. He wouldn't need all that stuff if he had better woodsmanship. etc. etc."
Daz, mind giving examples of who's been censured for such stuff? And examples of who and where someone has been jumped on?
Terry, the main one i remember is from quite a few years back (probably ten years now) when a young guy came on to share his story of his elk hunt (i think he a a current serving infantry guy at the time). He ten ringed the animal from about sixty yards (while string walking using a range finder) and he was run out on the rails. If i recall correctly (been a long time now) just the fact he referenced using a rangefinder was enough to raise the ire, let alone the shot distance.
Even when there is not open censure, there is a tone of derision that often comes up regarding the new views on single string archery (not my way=wrong).
To be fair, there is a difference between eastern woodlot treestand hunting (the majority of users of this site) and western high country pursuits.
My opinion plus $1.25 will get you a small coffee, so don't attach too much weight to it.
Post by: Terry Green on January 15, 2022, 05:54:05 PM
Also, there have been many range finder threads over the years, and one was pulled that is in Admin that did get broadside. Also lots of different aiming methods are talked about here and I agree there is some 'nit picking' on some of those threads, including instinctive.
Post by: A tag on January 15, 2022, 10:14:53 PM
I do agree with the message Daz posted. I totally understand his meaning and feel the same way most the time. I don’t remember seeing the things mentioned on this site but I have seen it. Seriously, if I hear someone say, you need to learn woodsmanship one more time I’m going to pull my hair out. Stereotyping other hunters for clothing choices, electronics devices, or even type of equipment used for hunting is very common.
I honestly think we are pushing young people away that want to learn about our archery tackle that will not relate to some of our attitudes. We push people away being closed minded about the way people hunt in other parts of the country even though we have never hunted there ourself. I totally see what Daz was talking.
Post by: Terry Green on January 15, 2022, 11:17:04 PM
Post by: A tag on January 15, 2022, 11:25:30 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 16, 2022, 05:44:30 AM
Post by: F. Dobbs on January 16, 2022, 04:07:25 PM
"The Tradgang this post describes I do not recognize."
I do not recognize Tradgang either described in that post. If folks want to 'pass us by' via the watering down of skill by gadgetry, let them breeze right on by. :campfire:
Post by: Sam Spade on January 16, 2022, 04:53:12 PM
New bow materials, new arrow materials, new advances in the stuff we really used before compounds is what I see Tradgang was about when it was started and still is what its about. I too don't think things like ozonix machines belong here, nor in the woods hunting. Its pretty clownish IMO that someone 'must have' a device/gadget to 'make them a better hunter'.
Oh, and don't get me started on the classifieds madness that went on. I'd charge too if I had to put up with all that garbage admin had to deal with. Gone slick as a minnows ear ever since. :thumbsup:
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 16, 2022, 05:43:00 PM
There isn't a website out there that's perfect. There will always be people who post with a negative opinion. We monitor this site best as we can.
If you see something posted that isn't quite what you think should be posted, hit the report to moderator and we will address the situation.
Roy's post is extremely important. We can't see all the threads and all the posts, that's just impossible.
If you see a thread or post that you may think doesn't fit in with the rules, focus, or goals of Trad Gang, please push that "Report to moderator" button and let us know. It's literally your forum, and will only be as good as you want it to be - we're just here to make sure it remains on a true course. Thank you! :campfire:
Post by: electricstart on January 17, 2022, 09:13:25 AM
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 10:47:38 AM
Kind of hard to post in the "How To" section when only a few select people are allowed access.
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2022, 11:34:37 AM
"Yes, so it seems. Not many telling stories like before, not many group hunts like before, not many how to posts as before. We have always had those types of posts mentioned above, but we've always have a lot of posts as those that are slim as of late as I mentioned in my 1st sentence."
Kind of hard to post in the "How To" section when only a few select people are allowed access.
The "How To" board is read-only for a reason - we had issues with folks creating non how-to threads.
If you have created a thread that you think is "How To" board worthy, just PM or email a Mod or Admin and we'll move your thread to the "How To" board.
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 11:54:33 AM
It's not like the delete function is not used regularly.
There isn't a website out there that's perfect. There will always be people who post with a negative opinion. We monitor this site best as we can. If you see something posted that isn't quite what you think should be posted, hit the report to moderator and we will address the situation.
There isn't a website out there that's perfect. There will always be people who post with a negative opinion. We monitor this site best as we can.
If you see something posted that isn't quite what you think should be posted, hit the report to moderator and we will address the situation.
Roy's post is extremely important. We can't see all the threads and all the posts, that's just impossible.
If you see a thread or post that you may think doesn't fit in with the rules, focus, or goals of Trad Gang, please push that "Report to moderator" button and let us know. It's literally your forum, and will only be as good as you want it to be - we're just here to make sure it remains on a true course. Thank you! :campfire:
Seems there is more than one mechanism in place to deal with undesired posts.
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2022, 12:08:28 PM
Thats lame. Why not just delete them? I am not inclined to ask permission every time I try to share how to info.
It's not like the delete function is not used regularly.
So you're going to be creating a LOT of how-to threads? How often? Either way, that's highly unusual. Would you like to be the how-to board Mod?
Post by: Sojurn on January 17, 2022, 12:45:32 PM
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 01:13:36 PM
Thats lame. Why not just delete them? I am not inclined to ask permission every time I try to share how to info.
It's not like the delete function is not used regularly.
So you're going to be creating a LOT of how-to threads? How often? Either way, that's highly unusual. Would you like to be the how-to board Mod?
I was not thinking just for myself, there are at least 50,000 users here.
It looks like every forum here has posting guidelines, except one, the How To. It also looks like there have been a total of 21 threads started in the last 10 years in that forum, 6 of them started by you, Rob. Thats a pretty small thread to member ratio. My takeaway is that not many members are contributing because they don't know it's an option.
If the Mod offer is a sincere one, lets talk.
Another thing to note is the thread views count in the how to forum, they are all in the thousands.
Post by: Terry Green on January 17, 2022, 01:45:15 PM
Flem,
How to threads are generated in the Powwow and moved to said forum when they run their course.
It's not "lame". We could just let them all fall away into the other 3 million posts(lame), but we categorise them instead for quick reference.
What do you have in mind for your 1st how to topic?
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 01:52:37 PM
Open up the How to forum and lets see what happens!
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2022, 01:59:03 PM
Thats lame. Why not just delete them? I am not inclined to ask permission every time I try to share how to info.
It's not like the delete function is not used regularly.
So you're going to be creating a LOT of how-to threads? How often? Either way, that's highly unusual. Would you like to be the how-to board Mod?
I was not thinking just for myself, there are at least 50,000 users here.
It looks like every forum here has posting guidelines, except one, the How To. It also looks like there have been a total of 21 threads started in the last 10 years in that forum, 6 of them started by you, Rob. Thats a pretty small thread to member ratio. My takeaway is that not many members are contributing because they don't know it's an option.
If the Mod offer is a sincere one, lets talk.
Another thing to note is the thread views count in the how to forum, they are all in the thousands.
If YOU or any member has thread that they wish to submit to the "How To" board, then by all means contact a Mod or Admin and your request will be reviewed.
I'm waiting for a flood of requests.
We will NOT allow just anyone to post directly in the "How To" board because when we did in the past there were threads created that did not belong there.
Is the above clear enuf?
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 02:00:20 PM
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2022, 02:04:20 PM
I'm guessing the offer to become Moderator was not a sincere one?
Snarky replies won't get you anywhere good - go talk to Terry.
Post by: huntsfairchase on January 17, 2022, 02:59:07 PM
I think what Rob and Terry are saying is that you (or anyone) is welcome to start a “How To” thread on the PowWow board. If it goes over well and makes sense, they’ll put it in the “How To” board for you. Guessing they do that so the How To’s don’t get outta hand and repetitive, etc.
It goes without say that it takes a lot of work and patience to keep these sites going and all of us that are affiliated with traditional archery should do our part to help keep it going. Especially when a new member starts or participates in a thread. Sure, they’ll probably ask questions that have been asked before. That’s where we need to practice patience and help out. And if people are into the latest greatest nose jamming make you invisible super suits, electronics, etc, don’t sweat it. If it’s not your thing (not mine either) just don’t read the thread or post on it.
Post by: Harry j on January 17, 2022, 03:21:39 PM
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
I'm guessing the offer to become Moderator was not a sincere one?
Snarky replies won't get you anywhere good - go talk to Terry.
You are right that was snarky and the lame comment was inappropriate, but if the offer still stands, I would be gladly be the Moderator for the "How to" forum.
You guy think about it and PM me on your decision.
Thanks, Flem
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 17, 2022, 03:33:58 PM
Hi everybody I'm new at posting, but how do you find the ''how to'' forum to read info. I enjoy this website I learn a lot thanks harryj
Click on main boards at the top left of screen, then on next page scroll about 3/4's of the way done the page and you will see the how to threads.
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2022, 04:10:16 PM
Flem-
I think what Rob and Terry are saying is that you (or anyone) is welcome to start a “How To” thread on the PowWow board. If it goes over well and makes sense, they’ll put it in the “How To” board for you. Guessing they do that so the How To’s don’t get outta hand and repetitive, etc.
It goes without say that it takes a lot of work and patience to keep these sites going and all of us that are affiliated with traditional archery should do our part to help keep it going. Especially when a new member starts or participates in a thread. Sure, they’ll probably ask questions that have been asked before. That’s where we need to practice patience and help out. And if people are into the latest greatest nose jamming make you invisible super suits, electronics, etc, don’t sweat it. If it’s not your thing (not mine either) just don’t read the thread or post on it.
Thank you, Nathan.
Post by: Terry Green on January 17, 2022, 04:38:49 PM
Post by: Wilderlife on January 17, 2022, 04:45:29 PM
As a relative newcomer to trad I've found this forum an interesting place. I'm fairly young (almost 34 years old) and from another continent, so I enjoy sitting back and looking at a lot of the North American stuff from time to time with a different perspective.
Yes, I'm one of the many people who 'found' bowhunting through people like Cameron Hanes and Aron Snyder. I couldn't care less if a lot of the old guard don't like those blokes because at the end of the day, I'm enjoying my life much more as a result of having found fitness goals and traditional bowhunting so that's all that matters to me.
In a lot of the circles I 'go' in, there is talk about the 'trad police' and how they are reluctant to change and they hate a lot of the newer ways things get done. I see that a little bit here, but I see it everywhere - YouTube, Rokslide, Facebook groups, etc. Yes, most of these 'circles' are online because there aren't that many people I can interact with regularly about traditional archery where I live. Having said that, I've started to take my local archery club (compounds and trad bows) more seriously and went to a state shoot last year. It was a stack of fun meeting more like-minded people and my interactions were all positive. Lots of older blokes all interested in the way I do things as it's different to what they've seen - many of them are fascinated by the trad vanes on my arrows. :deadhorse:
Having said all that, since picking up the ASL I've found a lot of social media to be polarising. I consider myself fairly young/fit/strong and when I was getting measured up by my bowyer for my first ASL, he said I'd have no problem handling something over 60#. This was based on him watching me shoot a handful of bows in his shop, as well as talking about the weightlifting programs that we both use. The reason I bring this up is because I had people all over the place telling me that a 65# bow was a waste of time. "You'll destroy your shoulders!" "That poundage is pointless!" "You can't handle that! I can see you shaking at full draw!"
This dialogue inspired me to make my video - "Are You Overbowed?" - in an effort to put it 'out there' to show people that they might benefit from being curious and asking questions a lot more, instead of jumping out of their computer chair to leave a comment based on exactly f*ck all. I've never understood why so many people are so quick to leave stupid comments? Lots of people want to appear as though they know everything so they can look down at others? I dunno.
ANYWAY...I was reluctant to post that video on this forum because I thought I'd get more of the same comments, but I have to say that when I did post it I was delighted to find the opposite. This forum took that video exactly as I intended it to be taken. All of the discussion in that thread and in private messages afterwards has been 100% positive. I don't mean to sound as though I wanted 100% praise for my efforts; I just wanted to promote some authentic discussion and thoughts around the whole idea. It seems that while this place cops criticism from a few places, it's the one place I've found on the internet or in real life (so far) that doesn't automatically have people wanting to tell me that shooting a bow over 55# is a complete waste of time and purely a macho exercise.
I guess that's a very long-winded way of me saying I appreciate a lot of the dialogue I've had as a result of being a member of this place and it's inspired me to share more of my videos and 'content' in the future, for anyone who may be interested in following along with a newbie from Australia who is enjoying feeling his way through the learning curves of traditional archery.
Post by: Flem on January 17, 2022, 05:31:53 PM
Yep, like I said, generate on the Powwow and we'll move move... no need to ask permission to start a thread.
Fair enough. You guy's have the final say in the matter and I can abide by that.
Maybe you guy's could provide some guidance. I currently have a how to thread going in the bowyer bench.
Be nice to know if it qualifies to be archived and if not what could be done to make it so.
Thanks, Flem
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 17, 2022, 06:32:53 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Terry Green on January 17, 2022, 06:58:51 PM
Post by: Wilderlife on January 17, 2022, 07:29:12 PM
I know the trend is towards lighter bows these days but that doesn't mean a heavier bow isn't good as long as you can handle it OK. As I've done a lot of rifle hunting I'm always connecting dots between the two worlds. Yes, a .243 is fine for most of the stuff I hunt down this way but that doesn't mean my .300WM isn't a better choice a lot of the time, provided I can shoot it OK.
Anyway, carry on everyone!
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 17, 2022, 07:48:00 PM
As to "modern hunting gadgets", it's all subjective stuff, use what makes ya most happy, no judgements from me.
Post by: TGbow on January 17, 2022, 08:14:58 PM
I think this site and any other has the right to run the show how they choose.
There are a lot of things I don't agree with in life but I value freedom ..freedom to run your site or business how you choose, whether I agree with it or not.
I have experienced some mighty nice folks on this site and many of them have helped me with information I've inquired about.
I started shooting recurves in 1975 at the ripe old age of 15. Never owned a compound.
Back then it was just archery..never heard the word "traditional".
Matter of fact a lot of the archers we encountered back then were shooting with sights mounted on their bows.
I just enjoy seeing people shoot their bow of choice..metal riser, self bow, laminated wood bows, ECT.
I don't look down on anyone for their choice of weapon.
If we think about it, when laminated fiberglass bows and aluminum arras came on the scene well over 70 yrs ago, they would not be considered traditional in that aspect.
Archery for me is a passion, and Im thankful I have been blessed to be able to hunt and shoot my recurves n longbows for the past 46 yrs.
Seems like a few yrs ago I was 40 yrs old and here I am 61 yrs old..lol.
I'm thankful for Tradgang and sites like this.
I know they have helped a lot of folks getting into traditional archery.
In 1975 my Dad n Mom divorced so Dad got us 4 boys into archery to help keep us together more, that along with playing music, it has been a blessing.
We had nobody to show us anything to any large degree about shooting recurves..a place like Tradgang would have been very helpful back then.
Post by: Wudstix on January 18, 2022, 10:44:37 AM
:campfire: :coffee: :archer2:
Post by: Russell Southerland on January 18, 2022, 11:11:51 AM
I like how Tradgang has not wavered and caved their principals like the majority of folks/businesses have. Tradgang is still holding onto its original intent, and to that I say mega kudos. People will come and go, like anything in life, but for those that have stayed, this place has been a consistent.
Broad bushes are all about, one size fits all mantra, yada yada yada..... Most of these type of believers never kill anything, so they are easily dismissed by those that do. I remember the post that Michael Langahans posted a few years ago, the thread title was "What have you learned at Tradgang"? and Michael's reply was "I've learned who hunts and who don't". Genius.
Post by: Terry Green on January 18, 2022, 01:32:55 PM
Once we updated to the new format, we could no longer 'copy' threads to another forum so some didn't want them moved as they would no longer be on the Powwow.
I might have Rob check on that for us....
Post by: gregg dudley on January 18, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
I remember the post that Michael Langahans posted a few years ago, the thread title was "What have you learned at Tradgang"? and Michael's reply was "I've learned who hunts and who don't". Genius.
Hilarious. And true. I need to look Michael up. It's been more than a minute since I talked to him.
I think that it is important to realize that while this site was developed for and is maintained to promote traditional bow hunting there is a wide range of experience, commitment, and interest among the membership. There are people here who have never actually hunted and there are people here that tag out every year on public land in Georgia. It would be impossible for a site to be all things to all of those people.
I think that the time that Terry and Rob have put into responding to member feedback here shows a willingness to help this site grow to fit member needs. I also think that the conversations generated by this thread and the one before it have put into perspective the need for members to actively participate when they are here. That is what grows the site and develops a deeper more meaningful experience for all.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2022, 02:23:14 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Skates 2 on January 18, 2022, 02:46:31 PM
I remember the post that Michael Langahans posted a few years ago, the thread title was "What have you learned at Tradgang"? and Michael's reply was "I've learned who hunts and who don't". Genius.
Hilarious. And true.
Yes, and I have quoted that many times over the years. I have no idea who started that thread, but I'll never forget that quote!
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 18, 2022, 02:58:44 PM
In reviewing this thread, I also left out another 'Hightlights' issue....
Once we updated to the new format, we could no longer 'copy' threads to another forum so some didn't want them moved as they would no longer be on the Powwow.
I might have Rob check on that for us....
That is correct, Sir.
There were incredibly large software hurdles to jump just to get off the old and onto the new, and some things just could not be accommodated.
Post by: Mike Malvaini on January 19, 2022, 07:25:27 AM
I have certainly paid attention over the years and have seen the new members that have been posted and it simply amazes me that so many people are still registering. Although they may not be posting as much as the longer time members, they are viewing and that shows up in the views column. Like stated earlier, folks are just not living on here like they use to due to other platforms that came after Tradgang.
I like how Tradgang has not wavered and caved their principals like the majority of folks/businesses have. Tradgang is still holding onto its original intent, and to that I say mega kudos. People will come and go, like anything in life, but for those that have stayed, this place has been a consistent.
Broad bushes are all about, one size fits all mantra, yada yada yada..... Most of these type of believers never kill anything, so they are easily dismissed by those that do. I remember the post that Michael Langahans posted a few years ago, the thread title was "What have you learned at Tradgang"? and Michael's reply was "I've learned who hunts and who don't". Genius.
Times 2 to a *T*. Well said and true.
Post by: charles m on January 19, 2022, 03:35:52 PM
Pansy's are us might be a better message board for those limp wristers.
This place has been pretty consistent since I've been here from what I've seen as far as 'staying on target', pun intended. :goldtooth:
Lots of folks that have only been here a few years have no idea at he history in general of Tradgang. I do hate to see some of the old timers fade out here, some familiar names and faces will be missed.
Post by: JamesD on January 19, 2022, 08:22:56 PM
Post by: Terry Green on January 20, 2022, 06:46:50 AM
Post by: Jim Jackson on January 20, 2022, 07:05:13 AM
Post by: Bamboozle on January 20, 2022, 09:42:09 AM
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Post by: jhg on January 20, 2022, 10:29:09 AM
All I can do is "try" not to be too crusty.
I try to model for youngers that there is value in connecting to what you do and knowing why you connect to that activity, in deeper ways than through what you buy or what you post on social media.
Our society has always been a largely selfish one (post WW II) in general. I see it everywhere and hunting is no exception. Many hunting stories are only really about the hunters themselves, not as journeymen learning, growing, evolving, but as mini celebrities with nice smiles, salt & pepper beards, savvy slang and 1000 dollar outfits.
So I switch them off or do not re-visit.
I enjoy and appreciate the other platforms and film content out there that include some humility and some mention either in action or in word that what we do is richer when we are connected to the activity in a soulful way beyond "stuff".
I do not care what gear you use and is then brand flashed across the screen.
What I want to know about is how it FELT when you stalked that animal, failed, then succeeded. I want to hear about what you saw in the morning mist that made you gasp in awe. Tell us about beauty and loss, show us hardship and perseverance. Give us something real and deeper than another shallow grab on what it means to be alive and vibrant in a shrinking world. I can count on one hand the films I have seen where a guy mentions that what they are experiencing- a dawn, a sunset, a sweet pine scented breeze is special, let alone naming it as beautiful.
Trad bowhunting for me is....
You fill in the rest.
Post by: McDave on January 20, 2022, 04:23:06 PM
What I want to know about is how it FELT when you stalked that animal, failed, then succeeded. I want to hear about what you saw in the morning mist that made you gasp in awe. Tell us about beauty and loss, show us hardship and perseverance. Give us something real and deeper than another shallow grab on what it means to be alive and vibrant in a shrinking world. I can count on one hand the films I have seen where a guy mentions that what they are experiencing- a dawn, a sunset, a sweet pine scented breeze is special, let alone naming it as beautiful.
Trad bowhunting for me is....
You fill in the rest.
I think that is the most succinct explanation of what it means to write well, and not just bowhunting, that I have ever read.
Post by: Bamboozle on January 20, 2022, 05:33:27 PM
Post by: Bobaru on January 20, 2022, 06:07:27 PM
I like Trad Gang a lot. Best Traditional forum for hunters out there.
In the more recent times, I'm on all my different devices and don't have access to my password ... so I don't post.
But, also, I spend mega time elsewhere because my primary love is in learning more about big game hunting. And, there are lots of gifted people who don't shoot trad that I will listen to. For myself, it's the hunting knowledge. Certainly, Trad-gang is good in that respect because, with Trad, one must get close to the game.
Sure hope we don't ever lose Trad-Gang. Great place.
Post by: Terry Green on January 20, 2022, 09:32:36 PM
Post by: Russell Southerland on January 21, 2022, 05:27:46 AM
What I want to know about is how it FELT when you stalked that animal, failed, then succeeded. I want to hear about what you saw in the morning mist that made you gasp in awe. Tell us about beauty and loss, show us hardship and perseverance. Give us something real and deeper than another shallow grab on what it means to be alive and vibrant in a shrinking world. I can count on one hand the films I have seen where a guy mentions that what they are experiencing- a dawn, a sunset, a sweet pine scented breeze is special, let alone naming it as beautiful.
Trad bowhunting for me is....
You fill in the rest.
I think that is the most succinct explanation of what it means to write well, and not just bowhunting, that I have ever read.
Yes, and there's quiet a few stories like that have taken place here over the years. And still more to come, like jhg's. Much more enjoyable that like other platforms that just slap a picture up for a double tap. Looking forward to some TX stories soon from the Laredo gangs that are leaving out soon. :campfire: