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Title: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Ronnie Newell on September 15, 2021, 08:16:02 AM
Was gonna refinish my hickory selfbow. Found these two cracks. Will backing save this thing or is it toast?
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: woodchucker on September 15, 2021, 08:33:55 AM
Are you sure they are cracks??
Most cracks I've seen go lengthwise with the grain... :dunno:

They almost look like drawknife nicks?
Have you tried to shoot it since you found them?
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Orion on September 15, 2021, 09:20:03 AM
Is that on the back of the bow, or the belly?  On the belly it's called crysalling. Regardless, it's not a good sign either way. Early indication of eventual limb failure. 
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Ronnie Newell on September 15, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] looks to me they go all the way around. I'm afraid to shoot it but I  flexed it hard and didn't see or hear anything. It must be surface cracks.
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Ronnie Newell on September 15, 2021, 10:15:54 AM
I have heat treated the belly and too much I think. Its lightly charred, wondering if that made it too brittle and caused this.
 I really don't know much abt wooden bows, other than I don't have much luck with them. Thats why I  don't have an Osage or Yew
......lol
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: PrestonTaylor on September 15, 2021, 10:31:28 AM
Bummer Ronnie. But on the positive side, it's time to make a new bow!
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Pat B on September 15, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Not good, back or belly. Like Orion said on the belly it would be compression fracture(fret, chrysals) on the back a tension failure.
 Unless you strained the bow right after heat treating it probably isn't the reason for the cracks or frets.
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Ronnie Newell on September 15, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Thank ya'll for the info. Think I'm  through messing around with wooden bows.
Thanks again
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: GCook on September 15, 2021, 09:42:37 PM
Thank ya'll for the info. Think I'm  through messing around with wooden bows.
Thanks again
I've heard that from you before.  Now go build another one. :wavey:
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Bisch on September 15, 2021, 11:18:01 PM
I’m a hunter-indian. I let bow builder-indians build bows for me to shoot!

Bisch
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Basinboy on September 16, 2021, 12:11:08 PM
Mr Ronnie you might be able to salvage it if you wrap it in sinew and coat with Tite Bond. I did that to the Osage bow I built when it had a fracture on the back. It is still shooting  :thumbsup:
Give me a call and I’ll explain in more detail
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: blacktailbob on September 16, 2021, 01:17:05 PM
Or you could just send it to me.
I am a recurve guy but it would look cool at the top of my rack.
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Sam McMichael on September 16, 2021, 07:47:42 PM
I would not trust a cracked bow.
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: The Whittler on September 16, 2021, 08:20:35 PM
Just remember if you shoot it and it breaks your the only one who's going to feel. :-)
Title: Re: Cracked selfbow
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 17, 2021, 09:07:40 AM
I have a friend who puts on a longbow shooting demonstration at the local SCA Renaissance Fair, he has several hickory long bows he lets the interested shoot. I looked at one and saw chrysals from stem to stern, perhaps a dozen of them, every hickory bow he had was the same.

He said they had been that way for years, none had ever failed.

Perhaps you will get lucky, I would give the area a good sinew wrap for insurance although I have never seen a bow crack all the way around like yours.