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Title: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Longcruise on April 25, 2021, 11:44:28 AM
I'm not looking to start any arguments here but if friendly debate ensues, I guess it's no harm.

The reason I ask the question below is that I make some bows and also the strings for those bows.  I have used B50 and B55 almost exclusively so far.  I'm going to add a low stretch material to the material inventory and 8125 seems like a good choice but still am open to suggestions.

BCY says that 8125 is the choice of most Olympic archers.  Given that many of those archers live with their bows and therefore strings,  is that claim a well qualified endorsement of 8125?

Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: bigbadjon on April 26, 2021, 11:53:03 AM
I'm surprised no one replied yet. My opinion is that the speed gains are over rated. However the low stretch strings for me have outlasted polyester by a significant length of time. I use BCY X and the longevity makes it for me.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: algstick on April 26, 2021, 11:55:47 AM
Same here, I have been using B452X and it lasts forever. a bit pricey tho
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2021, 12:36:30 PM
B50 has killed more deer than all the others combined...

 :wavey:
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Car54 on April 26, 2021, 01:05:47 PM
"MY" favorite stringmaker uses Mercury,  no problems for me using them. 
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: kennym on April 26, 2021, 05:18:56 PM
I’ve used d97 and bcyx and don’t see much diff in those 2
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 05:19:13 PM
Interesting responses.   That high end stuff is pricey but I need to add a high performance material to the repertoire.

Roy, just say the word and I'll send you a nice linen string.   Will go perfect with your trip lams!  Serious.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: kennym on April 26, 2021, 05:20:08 PM
B50 has killed more deer than all the others combined...

 :wavey:

So have motor vehicles but I don’t like using them either...
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 05:22:55 PM
I’ve used d97 and bcyx and don’t see much diff in those 2

Looks like D97 is significantly cheaper than 8125 or 452x. If you endorse it, Kenny,  then I'm going to save a few bucks.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: kennym on April 26, 2021, 05:25:14 PM
My endorsement ain’t worth much , I don’t even like making strings !! :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 26, 2021, 05:34:05 PM
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Roy, just say the word and I'll send you a nice linen string.   Will go perfect with your trip lams!  Serious.

Sounds good but I'll have to get you a string length when I build Roy a trilam BBO.

Thanks Mike
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Wudstix on April 26, 2021, 06:42:30 PM
I've had good luck with D97 and Mercury.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 09:50:00 PM
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Roy, just say the word and I'll send you a nice linen string.   Will go perfect with your trip lams!  Serious.

Sounds good but I'll have to get you a string length when I build Roy a trilam BBO.

Thanks Mike

Just let me know.   I have a couple thousand feet of this stuff. :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: katman on April 27, 2021, 07:07:54 AM
D97 and 8125 are both good string materials. If your not looking to squeeze out all the speed you can then save some $ and go with them instead of the newer more costly material.

I have settled on bcy-x and have a supply to last since it has been replaced by x-99. The added vectran improves stability in our summer heat.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Wheels2 on April 27, 2021, 10:24:48 AM
I strarted having my strings made from it because Border recommends it or FFplus.  Only difference is that one has thicker strands than the other.  It has a bit more stretch than 452 so less strain on the limbs of their Hex limbs.
Might be cheaper but I don't go through a lot of strings.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: CEW on April 27, 2021, 12:58:05 PM
I went to the BCY website several months ago. If you read up on the material they offer you'll find that they do not recommend some of the strings mentioned above for recurves.
As you said in your original post 8125 is the go to as far as they are concerned. D97 is basically the same as 8125 just a little thicker. I believe the other BCY string that they said people like because of the feel was the 652 spectra.
http://www.bcyfibers.com/FAQs.php
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Longcruise on April 27, 2021, 10:55:18 PM
Good info.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Ari_Bonn on April 28, 2021, 09:14:09 AM
I’ve used d97 and bcyx and don’t see much diff in those 2

Looks like D97 is significantly cheaper than 8125 or 452x. If you endorse it, Kenny,  then I'm going to save a few bucks.

D97 is the same base material (SK75 Dyneema)  the difference between the 2 is 8125 is made thinner for pin nocks and ect.   if gonna be shooting a regular arrow d97 is fine.   in my experience its a heck of alot better feeling than any dacron string.   you will have to slightly retune your brace.  my favorite is bcy X    its an even newer material not faster than d97 (maybe a tiny bit) but gains a ton of stability and once it stretches in you pretty much never had to touch the BH  even during temperature differences.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Wapiti Chaser on April 28, 2021, 10:26:41 AM
I use 8125 on my FF compatible bows , it’s the quietest FF I have found for my bows I make them reasonably skinny and have never had any issues. I also pad the loops with B50.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Overspined on May 10, 2021, 11:50:04 PM
452x is sweet
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: Steelhead on May 11, 2021, 02:19:55 AM
8125 is very good all around material.It has a little more give than some of the really stiff materials.Its easier on the bow.Very good for vintage bows if you choose FF over B-50 for that reason.Though I would recommend B-50 for old bows overall.14 to 16 strands is a pretty good strand count for most bows with 8125.

Border Archery does use it for thier recurves as well because its a little less harsh.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: darin putman on May 16, 2021, 09:26:29 PM
8125 is all I use on my selfbows, I put a continuous loop string on each one I build. I really dislike making strings almost as much as I dislike building arrows. But I enjoy building selfbows so it works for me.
Title: Re: Is 8125 All That??
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on May 17, 2021, 04:08:07 PM
I used Fastflight Plus for years, the last three bow I bought from Yellowstone Custom bows Rich has used Dynaflight 97 I was going to try some 8125 but the spec doesn't look that much difference than Fastflight. Just my 2 cents not saying one is better than the other.