Post by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2021, 05:54:06 AM
Hoping 2021 gets a lot better than 2020 was.
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2021, 07:51:37 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 01, 2021, 08:07:27 AM
It's off to a good start! .3" ice and 8-12" snow forecast for today! Dogs got me up at 5 and then wouldn't go outside... :laughing:
Good thing it's you and not me :laughing:
Happy new Year :tongue:
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2021, 08:08:23 AM
Annie, our 90 pound lab, had me hanging on the edge of the bed when I woke up, so I got up instead of hitting the floor.
29 degrees here, 1 inch of snow, fire in wood burner has house at 71 degrees.
Haven't burned but maybe 15 gallon of oil so far this winter.
Happy New Years guy...
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 01, 2021, 08:16:53 AM
Happy New Year! May it be a good one for everyone. :pray:
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on January 01, 2021, 08:41:32 AM
Looking forward to a much better 2021 for my family, myself and most of you guys :saywhat: ...well OK, Roy too!
Have a great 2021 guys.
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2021, 08:56:13 AM
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2021, 09:09:16 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 01, 2021, 10:03:22 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 01, 2021, 10:43:19 AM
Mississippi weather :dunno:
Post by: Shredd on January 01, 2021, 11:32:43 AM
Hate to rub it in but it's supposed to be in the high 70's the next three days... Maybe go to the beach when my work is done... :) :)
Post by: Flem on January 01, 2021, 12:35:05 PM
I think we should all rendezvous at Rich's place, bring sunglasses, cause I'm one pale hombre!
Post by: Mad Max on January 01, 2021, 06:45:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/m0iAV83.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/H5pBlX4.jpg)
I braced it to 4-1/2" No limb twist
(https://i.imgur.com/DZvLqMp.jpg)
Stiff, after mid limb, both sides.
I used Eric's tillering gizmo and was looking under there to see if I had pencil lines under there and--------
Houston, we have a problem
I have a crack on the whole working limb on one side, I remember seing a line on the back, did'nt think it was anything :knothead: so I filled it with SG and will wrap it at mid limb
(https://i.imgur.com/f8U9SBb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yOV0nUp.jpg)
Here is the back
(https://i.imgur.com/Tnx9nBp.jpg)
1 more picture
(https://i.imgur.com/jlR1MNl.jpg)
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 02, 2021, 09:04:37 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 02, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
Love the tillering string too:)
Post by: Mad Max on January 02, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
I see cracks in bamboo all the time and find when filled with superglue they are never a problem. I never clamp them closed after I fill them, I prefer to have a lot of glue in the crack to fill all the fibrous nooks and crannies.
:thumbsup: Yes, I'm going to proceed
Thanks roy
Post by: Pat B on January 02, 2021, 09:57:43 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 02, 2021, 10:12:20 AM
Post by: Autumnarcher on January 02, 2021, 10:15:39 AM
Post by: Pat B on January 02, 2021, 10:32:53 AM
Post by: Flem on January 02, 2021, 11:38:20 AM
Those turnbuckles are an excellent idea, it's always a pain to keep adjusting a timber hitch while tillering.
I love learning something new!
Post by: Mad Max on January 02, 2021, 03:56:34 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 02, 2021, 04:12:36 PM
On strike today, NO work :readit: :tongue:
I understand...
:wavey:
Post by: mmattockx on January 02, 2021, 04:40:25 PM
it might also help if the two outside clamps bottom legs could hook in the same hole in the middle where the center clamp is
It does need to move over :thumbsup:
The holes were just randomly put there as a generic clamping point. Since it is obvious the outer holes will need to be much closer to the center for most risers I will drill a set of closer spaced holes in the other end of the center support and make the middle hole larger to fit 3 clamps in if I need to. That will give me two sets of options for clamping up risers and lams.
No pictures yet today, I am just about to head out to the workshop to get started on things.
Mark
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 02, 2021, 05:21:09 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 03:19:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/bM5wLdr.jpg)
Still one layer on the boo, up buy the ruler
(https://i.imgur.com/U8J1rbQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bM5wLdr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qyMHjXy.jpg)
I going to remove the belly lam the whole 10" of the tip.
And keep moving forward with a new tip, what kind I don't know? Maybe a coat hanger :tongue:
(https://i.imgur.com/b0NZegb.jpg)
Post by: Flem on January 03, 2021, 06:42:00 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 07:04:20 PM
Looks more like a fracture than a de-lam, unless you have pulled it apart.
Definitely delamed the spruce wile bracing and then broke the Ipe :)
Post by: Flem on January 03, 2021, 07:15:13 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 03, 2021, 07:54:40 PM
Post by: mmattockx on January 03, 2021, 08:38:29 PM
That sucks Mark.
+1.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 09:27:52 PM
Bad glue joint?
Yes :knothead:<-----Me
I got one limb glued up with some reflex today wif Smooth-on
Post by: Pat B on January 03, 2021, 09:35:05 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 03, 2021, 11:36:59 PM
Post by: Shredd on January 04, 2021, 08:20:59 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 08:30:50 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 08:31:34 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 08:42:21 AM
I thought it would be OK.
Moving forward
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 08:58:17 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 09:06:53 AM
Bad glue joint?
Yes :knothead:<-----Me
I got one limb glued up with some reflex today wif Smooth-on
Yestaurday
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 09:26:08 AM
Bad glue joint?
Yes :knothead:<-----Me
I got one limb glued up with some reflex today wif Smooth-on
Yestaurday
I know was agreeing wif ya....
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 09:44:41 AM
:laughing:
Post by: Flem on January 04, 2021, 10:18:36 AM
That soup would stick to your ribs eh?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 10:46:57 AM
What the heck kind of trad bowyer are ya?
LOL
:wavey:
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 12:33:33 PM
Tree sap we use as moustache wax and attaching arrow points. :wavey:
Post by: Flem on January 04, 2021, 02:18:08 PM
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 02:44:52 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
Flem. It is good for sinew backing bows and I have been thinking for a while to make a Turkish style horn bow. Mostly I guess I am a wood and glue nut, like to make different stuff. :)
Build-a-longgggggggggggg time.
I would like to see that being made ;) no matter how long it takes :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 04, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
Curbside delivery.....
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 06:17:52 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 06:24:19 PM
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 06:27:54 PM
Post by: Buemaker on January 04, 2021, 06:31:58 PM
Drying on shallow plastic lids.
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 04, 2021, 07:24:43 PM
Post by: Flem on January 04, 2021, 07:34:40 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 07:46:54 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 04, 2021, 09:54:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VOiCMvg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qj2LmFa.jpg)
And I glued up the other end today
--------------------------------------------
Some Buffalo Horn for the tips
(https://i.imgur.com/Ru2vRxA.jpg)
Post by: mmattockx on January 04, 2021, 11:01:15 PM
First, an overall shot showing all the posts in place with the riser, core lam and belly lams clamped in place:
(https://i.imgur.com/lw5MsAc.jpg)
A closer view of the riser area and the fades. Thanks to Mark for the suggestion to extend the ramp that the belly lams are bent against, that worked great:
(https://i.imgur.com/BG9bUl7.jpg)
I ended up with gaps on the ends of the fades on both sides. On the right I need to fine tune the riser curve a bit since it looks like there is a dip the belly lam is not dropping into. On the left the end of the riser is simply not thin enough yet to let the lams close together properly:
(https://i.imgur.com/vgYJqv5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B0S3LMP.jpg)
I ended up removing the posts closest to the riser, which gave more room to clamp the lams together and let the pieces bend a bit more naturally:
(https://i.imgur.com/bczuFTo.jpg)
I will rework the ends of the riser and see if that has solved the gaps problem and then can move forward with a real glue up.
Mark
Post by: williwaw on January 05, 2021, 12:22:11 AM
Quote
This is the deflex glue up where I take the belly lams and core and pull them back into deflex before pulling that assembly forward into reflex when the backing is glued on.Deflexing the belly lam before glueup, but reflexing the backing? What profile are you hoping it will be when it's time to tiller?
Post by: Flem on January 05, 2021, 12:27:11 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 07:00:16 AM
Those fades look short and the ramp very steep. You might try using a French curve to achieve a less acute angle on your riser.
x2
The fades need to be longer each side and less steep :thumbsup:
Make a lam 4" longer than the riser, .125 thick and taper like this.
use 2 tooth picks to dowel the lam to the riser (so it dose not slide) and you will be good, the first 1' will bend and part of the 2nd " will bend too :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0ghan8.jpg)
Post by: mmattockx on January 05, 2021, 10:46:32 AM
looking good!
Thanks
Deflexing the belly lam before glueup, but reflexing the backing? What profile are you hoping it will be when it's time to tiller?
If it all goes as planned the final profile will be reflexed with the nocks ~2" forward of the handle. By deflexing first, then reflexing when the backing is added I am getting a much larger Perry Reflex effect without ending up with a huge amount of finished reflex that makes it tough to string and overstrains the backing.
I am deflexing the nocks ~6" behind the handle on the form (the final amount will depend how much spring back I get off the form), then pulling them forward to ~3.75" of reflex on the second form. To get that much preload with a flat belly lam I would need to pull the bow into 9+" of reflex when gluing the backing on. That is sinew backed bow territory and more than the backing wood could survive. If it did manage to survive it would be tricky to final tiller and would be nasty to get a string onto.
Those fades look short and the ramp very steep. You might try using a French curve to achieve a less acute angle on your riser.
The fades aren't as short as you think, but I can look at making them longer next time. No french curves required, they are drawn in CAD and accurately printed onto a template, but suffered where I had to freehand the last of the taper due to not having a profile sander. I made a pattern for the riser and used a flush trim bit in my router to cut the ramps and into the fades, but had to leave material at the ends and finish the taper by hand on my belt sander. The hand work is where the problems are.
The ramp is working out to be a bit steep and I will be changing that on my next bow.
Make a lam 4" longer than the riser, .125 thick and taper like this.
I can't do that now, the stack is already completely designed to final thickness (like a FG bow). If I add a lam it will alter everything in the design.
I think I will be doing the next bow as you describe, it seems like an easier way to get the fine taper right to nothing off the end of the riser block until I work out a profile grinder of some sort. Now that I have the thickness sander working OK I know I can taper a lam to nothing with no problems.
Mark
Post by: Flem on January 05, 2021, 11:42:10 AM
I don't think the computer program knows you are building an artificially stressed design.
Post by: Shredd on January 05, 2021, 12:24:11 PM
Titebond lll
I am not crazy about TB III... Every time I bought it, it seemed too thick and was also lumpy... I have glued up some outdoor wood things with TB II and no finish and they are holding up just fine... Plus TB III is darker and and is easier to see the glue joints... As long as you finish your bow well you should never have any issues with TB II...
Post by: mmattockx on January 05, 2021, 03:35:48 PM
Make a lam 4" longer than the riser, .125 thick and taper like this.
After further consideration and discussion with others, were you thinking I should take 1/8" off the bottom of the riser and replace it with the extra lam or just add the lam into the stack? It might work if I cut the riser down by the same amount the lam adds. I will have to take a look at the riser and see if I think I can get it cut accurately enough. Tapering a lam to zero on the ends would be way easier than feathering the fades by hand as I am doing at the moment.
Forget the CAD, you need BAD= Bow aided design :bigsmyl:
Nice. You should copyright that quick before someone steals it.
I don't think the computer program knows you are building an artificially stressed design.
That doesn't affect the design in this case. All the Perry reflex is doing is reducing belly stresses, hopefully minimizing any set. This is very much an experiment and I am not too worried about my final draw weight. I have a target in mind, but part of the experiment is seeing how well the software predicts the final results.
You may not believe it, but the fades are very carefully designed. Where I have dropped the ball was in my execution of the design. If I can make Mark's lam modification work out then I will go that way to get nicely feathered fades.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 04:04:43 PM
Just glue on a lam 2" longer than your riser, to the riser.
reshape the fades, done
Shreddyyy I wet the lams wif water so they would bend easer , it needed TB lll for wet wood :thumbsup:
Post by: williwaw on January 05, 2021, 06:24:12 PM
Just glue on a lam 2" longer than your riser, to the riser.
reshape the fades, done
MM,
I think mm's question was how to proceed without a profile sander. I have been following along to see if there are alternative methods. I was recently looking at the wightman page with various HH bows. Does anyone know about earlier methods to shape ramps with thin runouts?
Post by: Flem on January 05, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
Post by: Shredd on January 05, 2021, 07:21:04 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 07:51:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/5XOfANM.jpg)
Going to brace it tomorrow
(https://i.imgur.com/5VEnOs8.jpg)
Here is the two together.
The top one is the one that delaminated.
and the bottom one has reflex in the last 7"
(https://i.imgur.com/lHL7SIr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7O98cH9.jpg)
Post by: Bvas on January 05, 2021, 08:42:42 PM
Spindle sander, sanding drum on drill press, pulley on end of edge sander, pulley on belt sander or grinder, or sandpaper wrapped around 2" PVC pipe. Just about anything with a round profile you can get abrasives on will work.X2
No profile sander here.
Sanding drum on drill press to get close and finish with hand sanding. I don’t trust myself with power tools when finishing fades to paper thin.
Post by: Mad Max on January 05, 2021, 09:22:47 PM
Spindle sander, sanding drum on drill press, pulley on end of edge sander, pulley on belt sander or grinder, or sandpaper wrapped around 2" PVC pipe. Just about anything with a round profile you can get abrasives on will work.X2
No profile sander here.
Sanding drum on drill press to get close and finish with hand sanding. I don’t trust myself with power tools when finishing fades to paper thin.
x2
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
Post by: Shredd on January 06, 2021, 09:41:15 AM
Post by: Pat B on January 06, 2021, 09:54:08 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 06, 2021, 09:57:57 AM
George sounds like fun...
Post by: Mad Max on January 06, 2021, 10:24:50 AM
Nice save, so far, Mark. The newest edition looks better than the original. Fingers Crossed. :thumbsup:
I like the look of it too :)
Post by: Flem on January 06, 2021, 11:24:06 AM
Going to video the stringing for us? ;)
Post by: Mad Max on January 06, 2021, 08:25:15 PM
Yeah, thats a sweet looking bow, hope it holds together for you after all the work you have put into it.
Going to video the stringing for us? ;)
You have to Like/Ring bell/Subscribe all that $h1t
https://youtu.be/rs1jPua-Mko
Post by: Flem on January 06, 2021, 08:51:12 PM
Glad it held together for you :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on January 06, 2021, 10:16:47 PM
I got the 8" of tips bending just a little today and mid limb out. Looking Mo better :)
Post by: Hoosierarcher88 on January 06, 2021, 10:50:33 PM
Post by: mmattockx on January 07, 2021, 12:29:47 AM
You have to Like/Ring bell/Subscribe all that $h1t
That was so much less dramatic than bending it by hand and waiting to see if it blows up in your face.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 06:10:22 AM
That was cool, Mark.
Hope it stays together for you.
Post by: Buemaker on January 07, 2021, 07:03:32 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 09:25:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 09:32:10 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 09:44:37 AM
Post by: Longcruise on January 07, 2021, 12:12:50 PM
Anything to maintain Binocular vision. :)
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 12:27:40 PM
"How to string a bow in only 4 minutes and 34 seconds! :biglaugh:
Anything to maintain Binocular vision. :)
:laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 01:02:52 PM
Post by: Flem on January 07, 2021, 01:23:07 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 01:41:47 PM
Post by: Bvas on January 07, 2021, 05:04:51 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 07, 2021, 05:51:06 PM
Did you delete my comment Roy? :tongue:
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 07, 2021, 05:54:55 PM
Post by: Shredd on January 07, 2021, 08:19:23 PM
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 05:02:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 05:25:14 AM
Did ya use the soup glue?:)
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 06:13:14 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 06:25:53 AM
29 degrees here, just fired up the wood burner...
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 06:37:43 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 08, 2021, 06:55:19 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 07:09:21 AM
I didn't know you like to weave too:)
:laughing: :wavey:
What type pellet stove ya have, Mike?
I have this in the shop, gotta be careful with the wood cause it will chase ya out.
Been many times I had to open the door and windows cause it was 80 degrees inside.
So now just a little wood at a time.
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 07:37:05 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 07:48:59 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 08:31:42 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 08, 2021, 09:20:22 AM
It's 6:25AM here. I'm usually up at 4AM everyday. But take a nap around noon:)
29 degrees here, just fired up the wood burner...
Noon, I can post my cartoon :laughing:
inside joke
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 09:47:09 AM
Post by: Flem on January 08, 2021, 11:23:18 AM
Post by: Longcruise on January 08, 2021, 02:16:02 PM
I could make you one, but run out of pink so I guess you would not like it.
Did ya make the striped jammies.
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2021, 02:23:25 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2021, 04:55:02 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on January 08, 2021, 06:53:09 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 08, 2021, 08:04:53 PM
Post by: Pat B on January 09, 2021, 10:33:47 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2021, 11:27:26 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2021, 12:01:09 PM
I like it, just wondered if it's a fence thing over there...
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Post by: Longcruise on January 09, 2021, 12:26:49 PM
Post by: Buemaker on January 09, 2021, 01:13:25 PM
Post by: Flem on January 09, 2021, 01:28:55 PM
Roy, it is an old fence tradition here in Norway. I enclose a photo of the real deal and a drawing of my kind of fake fence, just use rough unpainted boards.
Thats impressive! You folks must have some long winters up there :cheesy:
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 03:46:58 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 09, 2021, 03:53:21 PM
Maxi,. lol..
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 03:59:41 PM
Post by: Flem on January 09, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 07:17:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/jPFMdHj.jpg)
Tips are 1/8" wide at the nock
(https://i.imgur.com/yDq2ke6.jpg)
Need to sand the bumps and polish after it dry's
(EDIT) the horn is 1/2" thick
(https://i.imgur.com/TrgRHrS.jpg)
I filed a belly groove at the tip
(https://i.imgur.com/iUO2wOF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ClCndTH.jpg)
This Old dead Osage has some color
(https://i.imgur.com/ZIqFnNu.jpg)
Used some leather dye the other day
(https://i.imgur.com/w9hGOQE.jpg)
Post by: mmattockx on January 09, 2021, 08:05:21 PM
Tips are 1/8" wide at the nock
(https://i.imgur.com/yDq2ke6.jpg)
Yowza. My last bow I had the tips at 5/16" wide and that seemed narrow. Guess I have a new target to shoot for...
I have no pics to post, still working on fine tuning the fit of everything on my lam bow. I went with your recommendation for an extra lam tapered to nothing and then removed some material from the riser to keep the stack correct. Still doesn't quite go together perfectly, but is greatly improved. I also flattened the ramps some to ease getting the belly lams up the ramp. I think my center piece on the form needs to change, it is in the way right where I would like to put some clamping force to get everything together. I'm going to think about that some and see what I can work out.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 08:27:25 PM
I edit the tip pic.
Post by: mmattockx on January 09, 2021, 08:55:52 PM
1/8" at the string groove x 1/2" thick
I edit the tip pic.
I understand. I wouldn't try for 1/8" wide with wood overlays, but it makes me think 1/4" wide (appropriately thick, of course) isn't unreasonable.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 09:18:13 PM
I got this off ebay, about 3" wide 3/4" thick 5 or 6" long
Post by: Flem on January 09, 2021, 09:36:44 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 09, 2021, 11:05:06 PM
Post by: mmattockx on January 09, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
You should be able to find some black horn in the dog chew area in a store.
I got this off ebay, about 3" wide 3/4" thick 5 or 6" long
I never thought of looking in a pet store for horn, will keep that in mind. I have deer antlers, but haven't bothered with them yet. A local guy has yaks, I am going to try and get some horn from him when I get to it.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 10, 2021, 08:40:21 AM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 10, 2021, 12:22:56 PM
Post by: mmattockx on January 10, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
I've noticed that pet stores charge an arm and a leg for those horn dog chews.
I bet they do. It's small volume, convenience store pricing on something like that.
Mark
Post by: Pat B on January 10, 2021, 12:49:54 PM
Post by: Buemaker on January 10, 2021, 01:11:58 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 10, 2021, 01:17:34 PM
The big auction site has horn.
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Post by: mmattockx on January 11, 2021, 01:08:53 AM
The riser. Shaped with a flush trim bit in my router, then feathered by hand:
(https://i.imgur.com/FXqJOm0.jpg)
The extra lam, feathered with my thickness sander:
(https://i.imgur.com/I5XWniV.jpg)
My tip wedges, feathered from 0.096" to zero over 4" on my thickness sander:
(https://i.imgur.com/nF2YY9d.jpg)
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 11, 2021, 07:43:33 AM
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Post by: flntknp17 on January 12, 2021, 09:24:04 AM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1197.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1198.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1202.jpg)
Post by: Buemaker on January 12, 2021, 09:50:12 AM
Post by: mmattockx on January 12, 2021, 10:08:18 AM
I glued up this tri-lam boo/cherry/red oak with osage accents on Christmas Day and have been working on it slowly since. Shoots very well so far.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1197.jpg)
Looking good, you do a first class job on the lam bows. Dimensions/specs? That's going to look great as the osage darkens over time.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 12, 2021, 10:25:31 AM
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Post by: mmattockx on January 14, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
I did a full clamp up dry fit today. Everything looks good now and I should be gluing it up in the next couple days.
(https://i.imgur.com/Au0P63b.jpg)
I also drilled a couple dowel holes in my riser and lams to align everything.
(https://i.imgur.com/dVaTbrI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JIa15fW.jpg)
So why does experience hurt so much? :dunno:
Use 2 dowels everybody said. It aligns everything automatically they said. You know what else it also does? It puts a dowel right in the middle of my sight window. :banghead: :banghead:
I didn't catch it until after the holes were drilled, of course. It won't compromise the riser structure since the back lam is one piece and will provide the tension strength there, but it is going to show and look ugly. The next bow gets one stinking dowel. :knothead:
Mark
Post by: kennym on January 14, 2021, 06:19:03 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 14, 2021, 06:19:37 PM
Post by: mmattockx on January 14, 2021, 06:26:07 PM
Put a :) face on it and keep going
I will see what I can do on that. :laughing:
Mark
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 14, 2021, 06:37:14 PM
Dave.
Post by: Longcruise on January 15, 2021, 05:57:57 PM
I used EA40. It was hard to work into the material and it might not be adequately saturated. Thinner epoxy would be better.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 15, 2021, 06:16:14 PM
If she sees that stove top, yer in deep do do.
LOL you go Mike...
Post by: Pat B on January 15, 2021, 08:19:24 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 16, 2021, 12:07:21 PM
Prefect day for the bow shop, started a fire a half hour ago to get it warmed it up...
Gotta redeem myself after the last bow failure:)
https://youtu.be/oibM4TvySs8
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Post by: Buemaker on January 16, 2021, 12:42:17 PM
Post by: kennym on January 16, 2021, 01:18:58 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 16, 2021, 01:40:35 PM
Yup and ya got kindlin now... :biglaugh:
Your going to Hell for that one Kenny :tongue:
Post by: kennym on January 16, 2021, 01:53:58 PM
Post by: Longcruise on January 16, 2021, 02:12:09 PM
The phenolic project is done. I got away with it in the oven too. :)
The results were a little iffy in several respects but it was a success in terms of learning experience.
The EA40 seems to have worked out fine and it looks so far like penetratated completely. I still think a thinner epoxy would be easier and faster to apply as long as it allows sufficient working time.
My pressure block system needs improvement. The block that goes into the channel needs to have some clearance on the edges. Mine was too tight and tore the sara allowing glue to leak and glued the block into the channel. A chisel was needed to get it apart. :o
This was pine. Hardwood will make a much better pressure system. But, this one served for this experiment.
Another thing is, I allowed some stray threads to get into the layup. They will sand off but the end product will look better without them.
Next, notice that there are some fine lines in the surface that seem to be caused fine checks in the wood. Hardwood with a fine sanded surface should solve that. Also, notice the odd rectangular impression in the surface. It was caused by the label on the wood that is seen in the same photo.
All the photos below will illustrate the comments above.
Finally, I'm going to do more of this but from a time and $$$ economy POV it's not worth it. What will ??? Be worth it will be the ability to create a custom product with custom patterns and colors. Otherwise, just jump on Kenny's website and order it delivered!! :)
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Post by: Bvas on January 16, 2021, 03:20:45 PM
Couple things I did different that might help. Make the mold extra wide so you can trim to width you need. I think I did 2” mold with 1-7/8” fabric and pressure plate for 1-1/2” finished product. Also, use wax paper instead of plastic wrap. Folds much easier into the mold.
Post by: flyonline on January 16, 2021, 06:10:25 PM
The EA40 seems to have worked out fine and it looks so far like penetratated completely. I still think a thinner epoxy would be easier and faster to apply as long as it allows sufficient working time.
When I was into building composite RC gliders, the difference in specific composite resin and general epoxy (wests) was like night and day - don't know how you got that EA40 through!! If you have any composite type shop near by, see if they'll sell you a cup of resin from their bulk just to try before investing in thinner resin. The stuff I used had a pot life of 90min or so, and thinner resin will be quicker to wet out too.
My pressure block system needs improvement. The block that goes into the channel needs to have some clearance on the edges. Mine was too tight and tore the sara allowing glue to leak and glued the block into the channel. A chisel was needed to get it apart. :o
Do you have access to a food saver? They work great. For a release agent, a car polish wax can work, I've only used composite specific wax but I've read of others that used Maguirs type waxes successfully. Try a test run first before you layup something serious, composites can be weird, what works for me may not work for you and vice versa! You should be able to get away with just a release agent, any crinkles in the saran/wax paper will transfer across to the finish.
This was pine. Hardwood will make a much better pressure system. But, this one served for this experiment.
If you have access to the food saver, MDF sanded and sealed also works well. Aluminium channel also works great if you can get it in the right size.
Another thing is, I allowed some stray threads to get into the layup. They will sand off but the end product will look better without them.
Try the lightest mist of hair spray to hold the fabric together. You can also wet it out on a carrier (e.g. wax paper) then place it into the mold.
Next, notice that there are some fine lines in the surface that seem to be caused fine checks in the wood. Hardwood with a fine sanded surface should solve that. Also, notice the odd rectangular impression in the surface. It was caused by the label on the wood that is seen in the same photo.
Yep, any imperfection on the mold surface shows up :laughing:
Post by: mmattockx on January 16, 2021, 07:31:07 PM
Ah well, it is all educational if nothing else. Will see how bad it all looks tomorrow.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 17, 2021, 06:57:25 AM
Yup and ya got kindlin now... :biglaugh:
Hey McKendzie-Boy..
Ah never mind:)
:biglaugh:
Mark, it didn't happen wifout pichers:)
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
Mark, it didn't happen wifout pichers:)
I know, the rule of the interwebz. After a couple of old fashioned's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_fashioned_(cocktail)) last night and getting over the disappointment of having screwed that up so thoroughly I have decided that this will be kindling. I still have a good back lam and another good red oak board in the stash, so I think I will start over with new pieces.
I will pull it off the form today and get some pictures for posterity.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 17, 2021, 11:13:21 AM
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 11:20:02 AM
Kindling is what keeps the shop warm:)
Sadly this is true. I knew this would be a walk through uncharted territory for me, but experience always seems to be more painful than expected.
Mark
Post by: DanoMano on January 17, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
Post by: Longcruise on January 17, 2021, 03:56:40 PM
You guys have helped a bunch. :thumbsup:
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 04:50:17 PM
The bow after coming off the form:
(https://i.imgur.com/ljBBMPx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NZYu6rR.jpg)
On the plus side, it only lost about 1" of the 6" of deflex that the form had. I had expected quite a bit more than that, so it is a pleasant surprise.
A better view of the riser and fades with an 18" ruler for scale, showing they aren't nearly as steep as they looked on the form with all the clamps in the way:
(https://i.imgur.com/nU1mGRl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dnqk6jQ.jpg)
Now for the train wreck:
(https://i.imgur.com/lOro44t.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xTgiVjn.jpg)
The gaps are due to the lams cupping massively. I didn't get any pics of the cupping but it was severe in places, over 1/8" across the 2" wide lams. The glue up was dry in a few spots as well, which is my fault, but the cupping was so bad it didn't matter. I used TBIII because it is more than strong enough, is much cheaper than epoxy and non-toxic, but I didn't expect the lams to cup like they did from the moisture. It looks like I will be moving to epoxy for the next run unless I can figure out a pressure strip arrangement that will keep the lams flat while the glue dries.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 17, 2021, 05:30:00 PM
those little spring clamps don't do much. If the clamps will close up the gaps on a dry run, you would be good.
If you have cupped lams, that's a problem.
This is gluing a .030 belly lam 4-1/2" long on the bow tip after the bow was glued up
(https://i.imgur.com/dM6S0lN.jpg)
Post by: mmattockx on January 17, 2021, 06:33:55 PM
those little spring clamps don't do much. If the clamps will close up the gaps on a dry run, you would be good.
If you have cupped lams, that's a problem.
The spring clamps did close the gaps no problem on the dry fit, but were no match for warping wood when the glue was on. I wouldn't have used the spring clamps except I used all the others I had first. I am going to to order another dozen or so of the smaller F clamps for the next run. Fool me once, and all that.
What do you guys use for a pressure strip on the glass bows?
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on January 17, 2021, 06:43:09 PM
for the rubber band method I don't know?
Post by: Longcruise on January 17, 2021, 07:03:53 PM
I think you would be ok with the firehose and topless form approach.
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 18, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
I have made hundreds of strings over the years and don't really like to make them, I find boring work. If I give Steve a jig he can make strings for these people.
I copied my old string jig that I made 35 years ago and have made countless strings on it. I put feet on my jigs so I can sit in a chair, make strings and hold the jig firmly between, my knees.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 09:39:38 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 01:53:14 PM
Still in shop putsen round.
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 02:23:15 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 03:03:50 PM
Rookie....
:laughing:
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 03:38:02 PM
ROFLMFAO...
Rookie....
:laughing:
I got nuthin... :biglaugh:
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 03:58:28 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 18, 2021, 04:34:03 PM
mine stick a little at the fender washers, rubber hammer works
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 04:41:48 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 18, 2021, 04:50:12 PM
Glued a bow blank to the form somehow . Hammer and chisel time ...Why would you even admit that? That would be like me getting hit in the head by the 25# pendant on the big crane at work and then telling everyone.
Once my head stops spinning, I look around to make sure nobody saw and get back to work. 😜🤕
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 04:51:31 PM
Post by: Mad Max on January 18, 2021, 05:12:23 PM
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
Started another BBO.
Better get after it Rody , cold snap comin... :goldtooth:
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 18, 2021, 05:28:59 PM
LOL
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 05:37:31 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on January 18, 2021, 08:03:48 PM
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
Glued a bow blank to the form somehow . Hammer and chisel time ...Why would you even admit that? That would be like me getting hit in the head by the 25# pendant on the big crane at work and then telling everyone.
Once my head stops spinning, I look around to make sure nobody saw and get back to work. 😜🤕
Dave.
I got no secrets...
I can screw up with the best! :biglaugh:
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 18, 2021, 08:55:07 PM
Dave.
Post by: ztontonz on January 18, 2021, 09:37:47 PM
Today I measured bows I have. Dfc and chrono:
Post by: 4 point on January 18, 2021, 10:52:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xkcoGok.jpg)
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 18, 2021, 11:44:49 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on January 19, 2021, 03:30:04 AM
Evil i like your new friend, hoping for a fish I guess.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 19, 2021, 08:01:13 AM
Damn those cracks in the ice would bother me...
Post by: kennym on January 19, 2021, 08:43:37 AM
Feed that poor bird, Evil ! !!
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 19, 2021, 09:49:48 AM
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Post by: Flem on January 19, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
That ice would sketch me out too :scared:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 06:38:57 AM
Post by: kennym on January 21, 2021, 07:36:26 AM
All pick up in IA tho I think it said.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 07:38:56 AM
Post by: kennym on January 21, 2021, 07:45:00 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 07:47:54 AM
Gots yer address too..
Just sayen:)
Post by: kennym on January 21, 2021, 08:50:27 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 09:00:35 AM
Post by: flntknp17 on January 21, 2021, 11:52:15 AM
I glued up this tri-lam boo/cherry/red oak with osage accents on Christmas Day and have been working on it slowly since. Shoots very well so far.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/b36/flntknp17/IMG_1197.jpg)
Looking good, you do a first class job on the lam bows. Dimensions/specs? That's going to look great as the osage darkens over time.
I haven't checked the thread in a few days.....
Thanks! I try to do the best I can with the few power tools I have. Some day I'd love to have sanders and jointer tables to help with the process....but one thing at time. This bow is 66" and 1.6ish wide at the fades after shaping and is full pyramid to 5/16" at the tips. I've been having good luck using a piece of really hard material (like osage or che chen) for the tip and then only making a groove on the back of the bow and no grooves on the sides, but thinning the tip to a pyramid cross section so the string doesnt rub.
Matt
Mark
Post by: Longcruise on January 21, 2021, 12:05:05 PM
That and a new Jeep Wrangler:)
Gots yer address too..
Just sayen:)
Pretty sure you need the wife's permission to even open a door on the Wrangler. :)
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 01:14:06 PM
Got me some buffalo horn delivered today...
Post by: Mad Max on January 21, 2021, 01:18:16 PM
Post by: Longcruise on January 21, 2021, 01:44:19 PM
LOL Mike..
Got me some buffalo horn delivered today...
What kinda buffalo?? Who sells this horn stuff?
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 01:49:38 PM
Every slab of horn is a little different, that white doesn't necessarily run all the way through.
Very tuff stuff though.
Ya have a PM..
Post by: williwaw on January 21, 2021, 02:52:05 PM
Anybody looking to get into bow building needs to look at the classifieds. Shaun in IA has some good stuff to sell...
can you post a link to the classifieds? they don't seem to be easy to find.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 21, 2021, 02:57:29 PM
Then you can see the classifieds.
http://tradgang.com/sponsors/cm.html
Post by: flyonline on January 21, 2021, 10:37:28 PM
LOL Mike..
Got me some buffalo horn delivered today...
Dunno, that looks like carbon to me :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: mmattockx on January 21, 2021, 11:27:39 PM
I have been thinking that a riser more like Kenny's last FHLB would make more sense in that it lets me use larger radius bends for the belly lams, which should ease the glue up forces.
In the attached sketch my first riser is shown on the right with the FHLB styled riser on the left. In both sketches the belly and back lams are hatched to highlight them. The sketches are accurately drawn to scale, so all proportions are correct.
Let me know what you all think about the alternative design as compared to the first one.
Thanks,
Mark
Post by: Shredd on January 22, 2021, 12:14:09 AM
Where are they not going down?? Is it the last inch or whole ramp area??
Post by: Longcruise on January 22, 2021, 12:32:10 AM
I've been thinking about alternative riser layouts and designs for my lam bow. While the first one eventually worked out, I wasn't really happy with the force required to get the belly lams into place, even after pre-forming them with steam. I learned a bunch in the first attempt and am sure I could get things to go more smoothly on a second run but I would prefer to design a better riser layout to eliminate the issues from the start.
I have been thinking that a riser more like Kenny's last FHLB would make more sense in that it lets me use larger radius bends for the belly lams, which should ease the glue up forces.
In the attached sketch my first riser is shown on the right with the FHLB styled riser on the left. In both sketches the belly and back lams are hatched to highlight them. The sketches are accurately drawn to scale, so all proportions are correct.
Let me know what you all think about the alternative design as compared to the first one.
Thanks,
Mark
I think the alternative design solves your problem AND will be more attractive. I might even "borrow" your design. However, I'm also thinking that the problem you had was more about form fit than the angles.
Post by: Mad Max on January 22, 2021, 08:34:32 AM
Mark... How thick are your lams going up the ramp on the belly side??
Where are they not going down?? Is it the last inch or whole ramp area??
x2
How long is the riser??
What is the radius??
How thick are the lams at the riser??
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 22, 2021, 10:05:55 AM
You can edit your post ya know?
Post by: mmattockx on January 22, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
Mark... How thick are your lams going up the ramp on the belly side??
Where are they not going down?? Is it the last inch or whole ramp area??
x2
How long is the riser??
What is the radius??
How thick are the lams at the riser??
Sort of in order:
The lams were ~0.150" where they went up the ramps. This is pretty thick and was a result of following Dan Perry's suggestion on the proportion of belly wood to back wood for same wood bows that use Perry reflex. One the next one I will be using thinner belly lams, more like 0.125"-0.130", with a thicker core.
It wasn't one spot as such that was a problem, it was more how hard I had to clamp them to get them on everywhere. I was worried about squeezing all the glue out. I boiled them and clamped them in place to pre-bend them but it still took a lot of force.
The riser block was 9.5" long and the lam I put under it to smooth the fades was 14" long. The riser ramp radius was just over 6.25". The alternative design uses a bend radius of 10.375" for both bends.
I think the alternative design solves your problem AND will be more attractive. I might even "borrow" your design. However, I'm also thinking that the problem you had was more about form fit than the angles.
I think it will look good, too. You may be correct on the fit versus angles. This is all new to me so I am dealing with things on the fly with no previous experience to fall back on. Even doing the same thing again will go better because I have one attempt under my belt now, but I would prefer to have a better design to start with.
Mark
Post by: Longcruise on January 22, 2021, 11:18:39 AM
Fixed the bore for ya, Mike.
You can edit your post ya know?
Whaaaa!!!
Just kidding, I know that. It's harder to do on my phone so I just clarified.
But, I sure am learning a lot from you this week, Roy! :biglaugh:
Post by: Shredd on January 22, 2021, 11:54:03 AM
Is this a glass bow?? How long is the bow, nock to nock?? Are you using a air hose?? It sounds like you are not and clamping it...
Post by: mmattockx on January 22, 2021, 12:17:09 PM
As a rule of thumb I was always was told not to go over .120"... 6" radius sounds way too tight, especially for .150"... 10" radius still sounds way too tight... But then it might work with the new design if you go down to .120"... I use a 18" to 22" radius and a thicker lam may still be stubborn to push down... The riser sounds short also...
Is this a glass bow?? How long is the bow, nock to nock?? Are you using a air hose?? It sounds like you are not and clamping it...
Again, somewhat in order:
6" radius with 0.150" lams is far too tight for a dry bend but not when the lams are boiled and formed. It is a larger radius than guys typically bend recurve tips to on selfbows.
10.375" radius isn't too bad for a 0.125" lam, that works out to a strain of 0.6%. Wood selfbows are routinely bent to higher strain amounts than that. I will likely steam and pre-bend the belly lam on this design as well, just to reduce the clamping force required during the glue up.
It is an all wood lam bow, no glass involved. Bow is 67" NTN, target weight is 40-42# @ 28". No air hose, I am indeed clamping it.
The riser length is really 14" from end to end of the fades with the lam added in. It can't be nearly as long as a glass bow riser because I need the working limb length to not over stress the wood.
Mark
Post by: williwaw on January 22, 2021, 01:55:34 PM
Will riser-2 have a full length lam, or 2 half length lams with a joint mid-handle?
Have you considered tillering a wood pressure strip for the difficult areas?
Post by: mmattockx on January 22, 2021, 02:40:49 PM
mm,
Will riser-2 have a full length lam, or 2 half length lams with a joint mid-handle?
Have you considered tillering a wood pressure strip for the difficult areas?
For the belly lam? I am going to try to do it in one piece. The back lam will remain one piece.
I am going to try using TBIII one more time, with aluminum pressure strips for the bulk of the limb length and shaped blocks for the riser portion, like I did with the first one. I have no complaints with the blocks, it was in other places I had the issues.
Mark
Post by: flyonline on January 23, 2021, 02:30:34 AM
Looked at tomorrows forecast.
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Decided against it :laughing:
Mind, that's down from a forecast the other day that had 45C/113F
Post by: wood carver 2 on January 23, 2021, 08:23:33 AM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 23, 2021, 08:38:17 AM
Warm temps would feel good about now...
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Post by: Mad Max on January 26, 2021, 11:43:28 PM
Sorry about your misfortune's
I'm getting my 1st shot next week
Post by: Flem on January 27, 2021, 09:39:54 AM
Post by: Mad Max on January 27, 2021, 10:05:06 AM
We must be expendable here in the hinterlands. Not many doses making it to Montana. I think we are still in the first phase of shots.
Us old farts were setting up at the coffee shop talking about how to get the shot and looking at the website and one of the guy's sent me a link to it on my cell, a few minutes later he said they just added more shots, so 4 of us got appointments.
Monday may be a good day to sign up, check it often, good LUCK
Just a hour later all shot were gone.
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 27, 2021, 10:28:00 AM
Post by: Pat B on January 27, 2021, 11:20:43 AM
My wife and I are ready to get our shot but we're not waiting in line to get it. She 72, I'm 70 and fortunately we are both in good health, No prescription meds for us so we can afford to wait until the forks that really need it, like med staff, first responders, essential workers, nursing home residence and people with illnesses, pre existing conditions.
We'll just hunker down here at home except for groceries, etc and wear double masks when we do go out until it's all over. Hopefully that will be next fall or winter. With 350M people that need shots even with 1M a day that is a year at least. Hopefully they can get it done quicker.
Post by: Mad Max on January 27, 2021, 01:46:23 PM
ordering and production are 2 different things.
I think it will be more than a year.
Don't quote me on that ;)
Post by: Pat B on January 27, 2021, 02:45:10 PM
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Post by: Shredd on January 30, 2021, 10:41:57 AM
I wouldn't doubt if it were a year, Mark but we can hope. We will be at 500K deaths by the end of February, I can't imagine what it will be in a year with 3k to 4k deaths a day in the US now.
It may not stop until everyone pretty much gets it or totally isolate yourself and stay out of harms way... Best defense is a good immune system... Get a good amount of sleep... Eat lots of raw veggies and have a good balanced and natural food diet... Exercise... Vitamins, especially C, D And Zinc... Keep stress low... If you got health issues stay at home... Let some one else do your shopping...
Wishing you all the Best...
Post by: kennym on January 30, 2021, 10:44:49 AM
Good day cutting staves.
Dan, you better get that feller out from under the truck. :laughing:
Lot of staves there!
Post by: Buemaker on January 30, 2021, 10:51:45 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 02, 2021, 09:25:36 AM
Is that going to be a all wood bow? :bigsmyl:
Post by: Shredd on February 02, 2021, 10:05:27 AM
Post by: Longcruise on February 02, 2021, 10:10:01 AM
Kool free hand sanding jig... I just use a block of trued up wood behind the riser but it is more stuff to concentrate on...
That's how I do it too. With practice it has become pretty easy to do.
Post by: Buemaker on February 02, 2021, 12:37:35 PM
Post by: flyonline on February 03, 2021, 03:45:31 AM
Takes a small amount of reflex after some bending at the moment, from almost board flat to a 1/2" or so. Still has a bit of snake and prop twist to keep me on my toes and test my limited skills :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 03, 2021, 06:09:20 AM
Is it taking reflex or deflex?
Post by: Pat B on February 03, 2021, 09:41:21 AM
If I may suggest, instead of pegs on your tiller tree use a rope and pulley. It is less strain on a bow being tillered and it's easier to exercise the limbs as you watch the bow bending. Once you get the limbs tillered out a bit you can use the pegs, pulling the bow less than before to use a tillering Gizmo to find the stiff and weak spots. Straining a bow that hasn't been taught to bend and recover yet can cause excess set.
Post by: Shredd on February 03, 2021, 09:59:20 AM
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Post by: Flem on February 03, 2021, 10:05:09 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 03, 2021, 10:55:07 AM
What's that have to do with the bow tiller?
Post by: flyonline on February 04, 2021, 12:56:39 AM
Looks good.
Is it taking reflex or deflex?
Ooops, lack of sleep :banghead: Taking deflex of course.
Thanks for the comments on using the pegs, I only use it to take a quick photo as I normally use a rope 'n' pulley when tillering in real time. It's still some way under target weight (@ 40# aiming for 50ish).
Thanks for that Shredd, I was thinking that a catch of some kind would be better than me trying to hang onto the rope with one hand and use a gizmo with the other :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2021, 04:18:42 AM
How long is the string you have on the bow in that picture?
I start out tillering with a string that just barely slides into the string grooves and lays snug against the belly of the bow.
Longer strings lie and don't give you a true indication of the tiller.
Once the tips are bending down about 6 inches, I brace the bow to 4 inches and keep tillering.
When the tips are bending down 9 inches, I brace the bow to 6.5 inches and finish the tillering process.
So far your bow is looking nice.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2021, 08:00:27 AM
Flem, gonna be used for accent stripes in a TD riser.
I did the same thing one time Bvas, I bet thickness sanding end grain on that osage was a pain in the bu__.
Mine was Hard Rock Maple. :knothead: mine wanted to burn when sanding
WE ripped it the wrong way :nono:
Post by: Flem on February 04, 2021, 10:17:02 AM
We didn't miss it.
What's that have to do with the bow tiller?
My mistake. I have always assumed a tillering tree is a freestanding version and a tillering board is mounted.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 04, 2021, 10:35:50 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 04, 2021, 12:17:09 PM
Post by: hunting badger on February 04, 2021, 01:33:35 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 04, 2021, 05:05:35 PM
Smooth On Massacre... :laughing:
No problem Fly... Here are some pics... Have the cam cleat about 16" above your pulley which is just 2 to 3" above the ground.. The cleat should sit back about a half to one inch from the rope... When you want to engage the cleat - as you are pulling with one hand push the rope in towards the cleat with the other... The rope will slide in place... Let off some slack and the cleat will engage... To disengage just pull on the end of the rope and the rope will pop out of the cleat on it's own... Be careful to put the end of the rope safely out of the way when it is engaged and make sure the rope is not accidently kicked or pulled on when engaged...
Works great and is very safe when used properly... Guys talk about it slipping... That's because they never used one... It has not slipped once... And they are mainly used for sailing... If they were to slip, on a boat that could be very dangerous... Possibly meaning someone getting slammed with a boom or thrown overboard...
Post by: flyonline on February 05, 2021, 03:22:47 AM
I tiller with a pull rope but I also have holes drilled in the wall board of the tiller tree at every inch down the tree and I use a smooth shank bolt to hold the bow string down while using the gizmo.
How long is the string you have on the bow in that picture?
I start out tillering with a string that just barely slides into the string grooves and lays snug against the belly of the bow.
Longer strings lie and don't give you a true indication of the tiller.
Once the tips are bending down about 6 inches, I brace the bow to 4 inches and keep tillering.
When the tips are bending down 9 inches, I brace the bow to 6.5 inches and finish the tillering process.
So far your bow is looking nice.
Thanks Roy!
so far the string is at a very short brace height (1-2") and I'll twist it up as I go. I found out the long string lying thing a few bows ago - lost a nice little boo backed cypress before I worked out what I was doing wrong :banghead: Now I go as short as possible without over straining the bow (or me!).
Shredd
thanks for the pics! I've got one on order now and I should be able to add it with only minor alterations to current setup :thumbsup:
Steve
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 04:28:23 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 10:04:08 AM
Smooth-On massacre is over, got all the lams together and cooking. Will see tomorrow what it looks like.
Post by: Shredd on February 05, 2021, 10:05:17 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 10:23:34 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 05, 2021, 10:40:04 AM
Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2021, 11:15:19 AM
What is that tool on the window sill that looks like a rocker with handles? :dunno:
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 05, 2021, 11:19:49 AM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 12:15:51 PM
A blast from the past:)
(http://i.imgur.com/lGZU8vg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lGZU8vg)
Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 12:58:02 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 05, 2021, 01:52:29 PM
Was gonna ask the same thing about the tool..
A blast from the past:)
(http://i.imgur.com/lGZU8vg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lGZU8vg)
A happy man setting on his Mountain
Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 02:07:59 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 03:06:27 PM
Belonged to my grandpap.
Guess it was used to scribe lines, see the little pointy metal piece at the end in 2nd and 3rd picher?
Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2021, 05:16:51 PM
Bue, looks like a double bladed Norwegian ulu. :)
Post by: Buemaker on February 05, 2021, 06:24:39 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 05, 2021, 07:16:40 PM
Post by: mmattockx on February 05, 2021, 08:17:01 PM
Guess it was used to scribe lines, see the little pointy metal piece at the end in 2nd and 3rd picher?
That is a woodworking marking gauge.
https://www.amazon.com/Crown-135-Marking-Gauge-Beech/dp/B00EC9AOZQ/ref=sr_1_37?dchild=1&keywords=marking+gauge+woodworking&qid=1612574179&sr=8-37
Mark
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2021, 08:29:06 PM
https://www.infinitytools.com/igaging-3-in-1-digital-marking-mortise-gauge
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2021, 08:42:16 PM
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Post by: Eric Krewson on February 06, 2021, 10:27:27 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 06, 2021, 10:32:33 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 06, 2021, 10:38:52 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TUiz9qS.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 06, 2021, 10:43:49 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 06, 2021, 03:44:23 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 06, 2021, 04:44:22 PM
Dave.
Post by: Mad Max on February 06, 2021, 04:46:03 PM
Yep, under my house I have a big crawl space I can walk upright in, I loaded it up years ago and will never work my through my collection, there are two more full areas that are not showing.
(https://i.imgur.com/TUiz9qS.jpg)
I'm not to far from you Eric :bigsmyl:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 06, 2021, 05:21:55 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 06, 2021, 05:25:01 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 06, 2021, 08:00:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BeiLtzk.jpg)
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Post by: Flem on February 07, 2021, 01:15:17 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 07, 2021, 05:58:30 PM
Post by: Flem on February 07, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
I don't think I could get them all squeezed before the glue set
Post by: Bvas on February 07, 2021, 07:19:28 PM
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:goldtooth:
Post by: Mad Max on February 07, 2021, 07:38:14 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 09:59:36 AM
Post by: Longcruise on February 08, 2021, 11:26:18 AM
Hossenfeffer! :thumbsup:
Would hossenfeffer be horse meat? :dunno: :deadhorse: :)
Post by: Pat B on February 08, 2021, 12:01:02 PM
Post by: mmattockx on February 08, 2021, 12:06:29 PM
Started making my first real knife a few days ago. Cut it out and finished grinding the shape, but can't go any farther until it warms up enough to work without gloves for grinding the bevels. Steel is O1, 1/8" thick, 7.5" long with a 3.25" long blade.
(https://i.imgur.com/iLa7NNk.jpg?1)
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Mark
Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 03:15:30 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 03:19:27 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 04:17:23 PM
Did you finish the Glass one?
Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 04:25:33 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 08, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 04:30:57 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 04:40:19 PM
I think they are too high pixel wise vertically and TG software thinks the wide part should be horizontal.
Post by: Buemaker on February 08, 2021, 05:36:26 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 05:52:10 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 06:04:10 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 07:55:18 PM
Up in the rafters, 4 total with knots and the short one at the BBQ grill is white all over the back side 35" long.
I got 2 pieces 3/4" x 2" x 35" and resaw them about .055
From looking at it I though the veneers would be mostly white until I cut them.
:bigsmyl: :goldtooth:
Just cut NOT sanded yet
(https://i.imgur.com/7VMXHXW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WBPlm35.jpg)
I like these
(https://i.imgur.com/cA4dUD5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TYFev18.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2021, 09:02:10 PM
Post by: Flem on February 08, 2021, 09:59:51 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2021, 10:40:22 PM
The first cut veneer was a little brighter inside than the outside :thumbsup:
Post by: Pat B on February 09, 2021, 12:22:57 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 09, 2021, 04:37:47 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 09, 2021, 07:47:49 AM
Treasure in the shed is nice.
:laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 08:08:24 AM
:laughing:
Nothing smells better than cutting cedar...
Post by: Mad Max on February 09, 2021, 08:12:50 AM
Post by: Flem on February 09, 2021, 08:45:46 AM
Post by: Bvas on February 09, 2021, 01:38:33 PM
Spending the day processing a doe I shot last week.
Took a little break to enjoy the fruits of my labor. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
Looks awesome..
Ya even have a deer hoof print in yer taters:)
Post by: Bvas on February 09, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
You have enough deer running around to get your own.
Or do they stay just outside your 8yd effective range. :jumper:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 05:39:14 PM
Post by: kennym on February 09, 2021, 05:40:50 PM
I think that's with the heavy artillery .... :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2021, 06:57:14 PM
:laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2021, 08:29:05 PM
Log was cut 3 years ago and I left the bark on and stored it in the shop.
Moisture content was 14 % inside..
Check out those growth rings.
Post by: Mad Max on February 10, 2021, 08:31:10 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2021, 08:31:47 PM
Post by: Bvas on February 10, 2021, 09:02:39 PM
I bet Chris is tired after swinging it.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2021, 09:07:24 PM
I pushed them wedges in by hand..
Post by: Shredd on February 10, 2021, 09:11:37 PM
It's a rubber mallet for show.
I pushed them wedges in by hand..
:laughing: :biglaugh: :laughing:
Post by: Bvas on February 10, 2021, 09:19:06 PM
It's a rubber mallet for show.LMAO
I pushed them wedges in by hand..
I didn’t know beer muscles were a real thing.
Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 06:26:06 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 11, 2021, 08:19:05 AM
LOL
Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 08:48:23 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
Post by: mmattockx on February 11, 2021, 10:43:56 AM
:wavey:
It's currently -34C here with a -50C wind chill. Yours doesn't look too bad to me... :biglaugh:
Mark
Post by: Minnesota Bill on February 11, 2021, 11:04:33 AM
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Post by: Flem on February 11, 2021, 11:44:06 AM
I will just add a link to this post. This guy pretty much covers the whole process
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO2QT0LjLSw
Post by: Shredd on February 11, 2021, 11:51:53 AM
Post by: flntknp17 on February 11, 2021, 11:54:21 AM
Got about 8” of snow last night, so I had a snow day with the kids
Spending the day processing a doe I shot last week.
Took a little break to enjoy the fruits of my labor. :bigsmyl:
I did a double take because we have exactly the same dishes and we have similar tastes in food :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on February 11, 2021, 12:12:22 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2021, 12:24:10 PM
Ah heck never mind :laughing:
:laughing: My EA-40 got here today :thumbsup:
Post by: mmattockx on February 11, 2021, 12:30:37 PM
It appears that the humidity, dampness in the air, has a lot to do with this.
The weather people will tell you that the humidity has no effect on perception of cold, but I will disagree. Most anyone who has experienced damp cold will tell you that slightly cold and damp is typically much more uncomfortable than more cold at lower humidity levels.
Mark
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 12, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
Roy is dat a gwass bow oven in da background :wavey:
Post by: flyonline on February 13, 2021, 03:53:30 AM
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What's the best way to reduce tip weight? Side tiller as I get closer to full draw, keep going as I am but take off as much from the sides as I can while keeping the tips stiff, bit of both?
Could be a longish while til I get it close to shooting in, about to start the grape harvest/vintage for this year :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 04:20:26 AM
Stickypops what's you yapping about?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 07:09:03 AM
Post by: Pat B on February 13, 2021, 09:04:07 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 11:20:40 AM
To prove my point about being over-rated, I was taking most of my limbs down to around 7 /16"... I was never really comfortable with such a narrow limb... Just looks a little on the frail side to me but I thought it is the way to go for performance... One day I made a R/D bow that was shooting 187 fps... The tips were rough sanded just a hair over 1/2"... I said to myself, "Boy, wait til I take these limbs down to 7/16", this puppy is gonna scream".... I did it and the bow went down to 184 fps... End of story... There are such subtleties in limb shape that you can't even see unless you map out the limbs and compare the way they bend... I keep kicking myself for not mapping out those limbs...
Now I make my bows a 1/2" at the tips... They look much nicer and stronger to me and I am not really losing any performance...
*** This was my experience... Yours could be different when it comes to design and materials used... No matter what anyone tells you, you should never take it as written in stone... Take that info, store it, use it as a guideline or reference but you always have to find your own path... ***
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2021, 11:28:09 AM
Post by: mmattockx on February 13, 2021, 01:18:44 PM
I personally think limb weight is over-rated to some degree...
I have not done the experiments you guys have but this is the impression I have gotten from the tests people have published. You need to take a significant amount of weight off to really change the performance. If you were making a flight bow then you would go all the way with it. If it is a hunting bow then it won't make a noticeable difference and the extra durability is probably more important than another 2fps.
One day I made a R/D bow that was shooting 187 fps... The tips were rough sanded just a hair over 1/2"... I said to myself, "Boy, wait til I take these limbs down to 7/16", this puppy is gonna scream".... I did it and the bow went down to 184 fps...
:biglaugh:
Murphy sure is a jerk some days. I would suspect that your tips weren't quite thick enough and the lost stiffness when you narrowed them let the tips bend a bit and reduce the speed. Did you measure draw weight before and after the narrowing? Did it change any?
Mark
Post by: flyonline on February 13, 2021, 04:58:56 PM
The best way to reduce tip weight is to leave the tips thick(1/2" or so) and to narrow them down to 3/8" or less. Wood is a lot stronger in thickness than in width. I usually save this until I get to brace so I can see how the string tracks. You can make adjustments just by reducing the width on one side moving the string over.
:thumbsup: I've already done a bit of tip alignment, and could do a little more as I thin but so far string is tracking dead straight through the riser.
I personally think limb weight is over-rated to some degree... Of course you don't want grossly over weighted limbs and slim and narrow as a general rule will always be faster... I also feel that some of those older recurves with wide limbs, especially near the tips, whatever they gained in performance of recurving the limbs they lost some performance by being so wide...
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Now I make my bows a 1/2" at the tips... They look much nicer and stronger to me and I am not really losing any performance...
For sure! Not going for any records or anything, just trying to keep hand shock down. If it ends up hiking up the hills with me it may end up being used as a trekking pole at some stage....
*** This was my experience... Yours could be different when it comes to design and materials used... No matter what anyone tells you, you should never take it as written in stone... Take that info, store it, use it as a guideline or reference but you always have to find your own path... ***
My own MO for life/learning as well :thumbsup:
Looks good Steve.
Phew, if the master thinks it's ok I must be on the right track :laughing:
Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 05:29:23 PM
Murphy sure is a jerk some days. I would suspect that your tips weren't quite thick enough and the lost stiffness when you narrowed them let the tips bend a bit and reduce the speed. Did you measure draw weight before and after the narrowing? Did it change any?
You suspected right... But I did not take the width just off the tips, I removed from the whole limb... Removing a 1/16" off the whole limb can be a very subtle change so subtle that you could put two bows up next to one another and not hardly see any difference in the limbs bending... But they are bending differently... That's where limb mapping is a useful tool.. When you get your design refined to the point of maximum performance there is a fine line, a balancing point... Tip the scales too far this way and you lose performance tip the scales too far that way and you lose performance... I believe it's all about having that magic recipe... If the tip area is too stiff or the stiffness extends too long off the tips your dfc may look pretty good and the bow will draw real smooth but you will lose performance because you have the working area confined to a smaller area and the limb travel is a bit farther...
Yes... I always measure and record draw weight along the course of making a bow... Yes... The weight did change... While experimenting I have also made bows that shot 180 when rough sanded and 184 when the bow was finished... In my earlier days I would have credited that to a thinner limb and cutting off excess weight, which may be partially true but now I think it was more due to change in limb shape...
Post by: Pat B on February 13, 2021, 05:31:20 PM
You referred to Roy as a Master? :saywhat: :deadhorse:
Post by: mmattockx on February 13, 2021, 09:20:24 PM
Removing a 1/16" off the whole limb can be a very subtle change so subtle that you could put two bows up next to one another and not hardly see any difference in the limbs bending... But they are bending differently...
Taking a fixed amount off the width will definitely change the bend, because you are changing the stiffness distribution along the limb. If you want to take weight off without changing the bend you have to take the same percentage of width off along the length, not a fixed amount.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 09:29:58 PM
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2021, 09:35:17 PM
If the string is tracking well just take a little off each side. :thumbsup:
You referred to Roy as a Master? :saywhat: :deadhorse:
I hear he's purty good at fishin too... :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2021, 09:49:06 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 10:13:12 PM
Removing a 1/16" off the whole limb can be a very subtle change so subtle that you could put two bows up next to one another and not hardly see any difference in the limbs bending... But they are bending differently...
Taking a fixed amount off the width will definitely change the bend, because you are changing the stiffness distribution along the limb. If you want to take weight off without changing the bend you have to take the same percentage of width off along the length, not a fixed amount.
Mark
Agreed... And it looks good on paper...
But do you remember what I said?? The limbs were rough sanded I was simply removing stock to get up to the lines I drew on the bow... Following the recipe that I already set into action and drawn out on the bow... When experimenting with design you usually only want to change only one thing at a time...
Post by: Shredd on February 13, 2021, 10:27:46 PM
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Post by: Flem on February 17, 2021, 10:21:39 AM
I especially like the rheostat
Post by: Longcruise on February 17, 2021, 11:41:45 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 12:19:16 PM
There needs to be something over the top that holds them a tad snug.
Post by: kennym on February 17, 2021, 12:37:57 PM
Small one... :biglaugh:
Post by: Flem on February 17, 2021, 12:45:01 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 17, 2021, 02:27:05 PM
I have one I bought but the darn arrows seem to wobble a bit.
There needs to be something over the top that holds them a tad snug.
I use my finger. :)
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 02:41:01 PM
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Post by: williwaw on February 17, 2021, 04:03:09 PM
Mattox- Good luck with removing a percentage to back peddle and get the exact same bend while narrowing the limb by 1/32" off each side... There are so many unforeseen things... The odds are that you will not get the exact same bend and if you did the odds are that you will not get the same speed... Not saying that it could not happen but I believe the odds are not...
shredd,
what does a "mapping" of the limb consist of?
a tracing of the bend? a numerical formula? your thickness and width recipe? a model in a spreadsheet?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 17, 2021, 04:08:01 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 17, 2021, 04:33:15 PM
Check you limb bend every inch. some trace it on paper and fold it in half and get each limb the same all the way thru the draw. What the end is each limb returns to brace at the very same time.
Wonder if that return will vary with the grip?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 04:39:48 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 17, 2021, 06:22:26 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2021, 07:32:37 PM
Exactly Bue and that is how my tiller tree is setup, taking into account that I will place the arrow string nocks at 3/8 inches above the arrow shelf, and I tiller for equal limb timing.
Post by: Shredd on February 17, 2021, 08:23:39 PM
I sometimes map limbs when I am testing and looking for performance... I take a piece of paper and I have three tiller sticks... 18", 22" and 26"... I put the bow on the paper at brace and trace the top limb on the back side of the limb onto the paper... I flip the bow and see if the bottom limb matches the top limb bend which was drawn on the paper, for tillering reasons... Then I will trace the top limb using all three tiller sticks... Then I will take another bow of the same design and with a different lam layup and possibly different performance and compare the bend to the one drawn on the paper... If one bow is shooting faster than the other I will stay away from the slower bow's limb bend and try to tweak the next bow I make limb's bend similar but slightly different from the faster bow's bend hoping to gain a bit of performance... Thousandth's of an inch can effect the bend and performance of a bow...
** Warning ** :scared: Messing with tiller sticks could be very dangerous (especially at full draw)... Treat with lots of caution as if it were a loaded gun... Stay out of harms way as much as possible... Make sure your tiller sticks are solid...
Post by: williwaw on February 17, 2021, 11:25:10 PM
Here is how I map limbs...... draw a line along the limbs belly.Then flip the bow over so the handle is in the same place and draw a line again, I want the lines to correspond. Then I draw the bow on a 20 inch long stick and draw lines again and finally on a 28 inch stick.that's how I trace the limbs when tillering a wood bow for evenness. I also like to have an unbraced tracing to reference for seeing set.
If one bow is shooting faster than the other I will stay away from the slower bow's limb bend and try to tweak the next bow I make limb's bend similar but slightly different from the faster bow's bend hoping to gain a bit of performance... Thousandth's of an inch can effect the bend and performance of a bow..Tweak the next bow by varying a thickness taper?
Heres an example stress curve. Stress varies between otherwise similar bows if you change limb width, thickness, shape, r/d or length. It might be an informative way to see what part of the limb is working harder.
Below it is the associated profiles for the example.
Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2021, 12:19:26 AM
Interesting diagrams you have there... Maybe you can open up a thread and explain in more detail how to work with that graph and how you plot it out, how you can gain performance using it and what to look for and what would be an optimal curve... When I look at the WTT contest pics there is a question I always ask myself... Some of the highest performing bows appear to be bending a lot right off the fades... It seems to go against a basic rule of what a lot of guys think on here and also what I think what a bending limb should look like for good performance... Am I missing something here?? Limb shapes can be deceiving... Maybe your method could help explain how those limbs are being stressed...
As for me I use a good old dfc... It's not an absolute but in general it is a good tell tail on performance and how the limbs are working...
Any tool that you can use to plot some accurate numbers to get a better view of the inner workings of a limb is a good tool to me...
Bowyer's Alchemy - Going deep into the inner workings and manipulating what you want in a limb...
Post by: Flem on February 18, 2021, 11:49:14 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2021, 12:02:51 PM
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2021, 12:06:16 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2021, 12:08:47 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2021, 12:11:34 PM
Post by: Flem on February 18, 2021, 01:02:58 PM
I bet this guy could get one dialed in
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Post by: Buemaker on February 18, 2021, 02:01:22 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2021, 03:08:15 PM
Post by: williwaw on February 18, 2021, 05:09:48 PM
That’s a good looking bow in that graftthat's a tweaked "design" taken off a bow I bought years ago. BTW, handles do not render well in the program, but are under such low stress I do not think it matters much.
The untweaked model is shown below for comparison. The graph shows a stress concentration at the fades.
Modification of limb crossection in my tweaked example lowers max stress and distributes it out more along the limb. Whether the changes would make the bow shoot better is anyone's guess. The model is somewhat imprecise because I had to guess at glass thicknesses when measuring out the bow.
Post by: williwaw on February 18, 2021, 05:11:49 PM
Interesting diagrams you have there... Maybe you can open up a thread and explain in more detail how to work with that graph and how you plot it out,
I would like to model something with known specs and open up the discussion to community proposed tweaks which I could post for all to review, and hopefully compare to a new build.
One possibility I have been considering for a build is a bow Stagmitis posted about in another thread. It's an intriguing straight limbed design that did well in the WTT...
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=174675.msg2952360#msg2952360
Shredd, do you still have the longbow mentioned in post 400? A pic would be nice! or a newer design if you are willing to share?
I'm gonna throw a bow together and see how it turns out. All this engineering is makin my head hurt. :laughing:Perhaps Kennym or someone else has a longbow design they are willing to share if new builds are under consideration?
Post by: Shredd on February 18, 2021, 06:13:09 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2021, 06:32:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JSwsIeu.jpg)
I was looking around the bow shop and found where I stashed it :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/eVVDVik.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2021, 07:08:47 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2021, 07:25:06 PM
Neat, looks like the top portion of a ridged sander.
Because it is :thumbsup:
I bough t he floor model at home Depot years ago for $100.00
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 19, 2021, 09:19:49 AM
I got out my number one toy yesterday and dug my way out. I don't want to chance taking my F250 out on the ice but when it warms up tomorrow I should be good to go. I rode my 4 wheeler to the store only to find it had closed 5 minutes before I got there.
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2021, 09:26:04 AM
Post by: williwaw on February 19, 2021, 09:28:54 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 09:34:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/1mC6mkp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/1mC6mkp)
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 19, 2021, 10:34:47 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 10:56:18 AM
Post by: Flem on February 19, 2021, 11:36:51 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 19, 2021, 11:57:36 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 12:33:49 PM
My mower is a 5 foot cut on 3 point hitch, its 24 years old. I had it galvanized when new and rebuilt it twice.
It's still working great.
Post by: Longcruise on February 19, 2021, 01:45:10 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2021, 01:59:24 PM
Bought it new :bigsmyl:
Post by: Bvas on February 19, 2021, 05:30:10 PM
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2021, 07:00:13 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 19, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
Post by: mmattockx on February 19, 2021, 07:48:34 PM
:bigsmyl:
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 19, 2021, 08:01:28 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 19, 2021, 08:18:24 PM
Post by: williwaw on February 19, 2021, 08:49:07 PM
Post by: flyonline on February 20, 2021, 05:52:28 AM
Hitting 50# @ 22" now, still a little ways to go but a few shaves here and there is getting me there slowly. Right limb (top) is a little weaker than the bottom so yet to even them up a touch. Started on shaping up the grip and shot my heavy 'shoot-in' arrow from short draw and it's nice and quick :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2021, 05:58:41 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 20, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
Suggestion... Raise that tree up to the top of that doorway... (80"} And move that cleat up about 16" from the pulley... You won't have to bend over as much to engage, it should be easier to engage and may be a bit safer to use...
You could just add wood to the bottom of the tree or make another if you choose... I don't know if I would trust those easy clamps so much... Might wanna use C clamps...
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2021, 11:58:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/GIkB5rE.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2021, 12:28:48 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2021, 03:12:46 PM
Those are sweet, Mike.
x2 stic :thumbsup:
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2021, 03:13:41 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2021, 03:18:03 PM
Hope ya feel better soon, Pat.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2021, 03:19:49 PM
The Predators are sweet
Post by: Pat B on February 20, 2021, 05:18:00 PM
I've been dealing with this for over 30 years now, on and off. Generally a few days on the couch with Ibuprofen will do the trick. It funny, it never bothers me if I'm working but just sitting around does it every time.
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2021, 05:23:39 PM
...but where is the gold? :dunno:
I've been dealing with this for over 30 years now, on and off. Generally a few days on the couch with Ibuprofen will do the trick. It funny, it never bothers me if I'm working but just sitting around does it every time.
me too
Post by: Longcruise on February 20, 2021, 09:17:43 PM
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Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2021, 11:03:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dvzgFRY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FKD0pz4.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2021, 11:51:15 PM
Looks really good :clapper:
Post by: Shredd on February 21, 2021, 12:02:11 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2021, 04:27:08 AM
Mike why not much snow?
Post by: Walt Francis on February 21, 2021, 08:55:58 AM
Got the bow I'm donating to my states bowhunters organization roughed out. Hopefully get the final sanding and a coat of finish on it tomorrow. Had to steal the birdseye out of my personal stash. I don't seem to get time to build myself a bow anyway.
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Travis,
That is one fine looking bow!
Post by: Longcruise on February 21, 2021, 08:57:48 AM
Mike why not much snow?
This country is relativity low. The high point of the venture was about 7800'. It snowed about 8 inches there last week but even as cold as it's been the sun melts it off on the south faces. On the less sunny slopes there was quite a bit of snow hanging on.
On top of all that, the lower slope of the east side of the divide is much dryer than the west side. However, our big snow months throughout the state are February, March and April. Sometimes may so it ain't over by a long shot.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2021, 09:15:52 AM
Post by: Flem on February 21, 2021, 10:03:12 AM
Thats pretty country you live in LC, looks like high desert.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2021, 10:06:39 AM
Didn't happen wifout pichers:)
Post by: Buemaker on February 21, 2021, 11:29:19 AM
Post by: Stagmitis on February 21, 2021, 01:36:34 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 21, 2021, 01:39:59 PM
Buddy is coming over around 4pm to shoot some of my bows... Have not shot in a while... Hope I don't embarrass myself...
Post by: Bob D on February 21, 2021, 03:09:46 PM
Flem, I hope you don’t live at 7800 ft. :o
We had 46 inches on the ground by spring 2018 and and that bout kilt me.
Not so bad this year, only bout 2 ft. But then we still got 2 months to go. :tongue:
Post by: Flem on February 22, 2021, 11:02:34 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 23, 2021, 09:06:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 09:18:08 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 23, 2021, 09:26:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 09:28:51 AM
That's ok you can keep the sanding belt:)
:laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2021, 10:10:59 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2021, 04:08:27 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 04:11:38 PM
We can't even get an appointment for our first shot.
Post by: Flem on February 23, 2021, 04:34:13 PM
This is no fun. I got my second Covid shot yesterday. Today I have fever and chills. I hear it's normal for some but :dunno:
My sister said the same thing. She said it lasted a day or so. I cant even sign up to get in line here :banghead:
Post by: skeaterbait on February 23, 2021, 04:50:48 PM
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2021, 08:14:33 PM
Good to see ya today!
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2021, 08:48:43 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on February 23, 2021, 09:38:39 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 12:33:06 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 03:48:33 AM
Post by: skeaterbait on February 24, 2021, 06:43:34 AM
Dude wif horny hat worry about side affects? Hmmm... :biglaugh:
Good to see ya today!
You make a good point!!
Good to see you as well.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 06:45:58 AM
Have the riser all machined out..
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Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 07:14:41 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 07:24:26 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 07:30:35 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 07:37:49 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 07:59:52 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 08:45:16 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2021, 09:41:53 AM
Nah, gonna go wif carbon limbs...
Whaaaat..?? Stick Bow Man goes straight to carbon..??
Did you have one of them vaccinations?? :laughing:
Post by: Buemaker on February 24, 2021, 09:46:30 AM
Post by: Pat B on February 24, 2021, 09:52:54 AM
I'll get my vaccination as soon as they let me and I'll take whichever one is offered. I don't think you get a choice.
Someone made the statement the other day that we have had an average of deaths from CoVid 1 every minute for a year now. Twice as many as Brazil which is the 2nd highest death toll in the world.
Post by: Flem on February 24, 2021, 09:53:39 AM
Nah, gonna go wif carbon limbs...
Unidirectional or woven?
:wavey:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 09:55:38 AM
G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...
LOL guys:)
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2021, 10:15:13 AM
Unidirectional all the way baby..
G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...
LOL guys:)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I'll race yah... :goldtooth:
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
Unidirectional all the way baby..
G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...
LOL guys:)
Gonna look funny with that carbon slathered all over that bamboo! :o
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 11:30:24 AM
Bue, he's crooked at both tips. :readit:
I'll get my vaccination as soon as they let me and I'll take whichever one is offered. I don't think you get a choice.
Someone made the statement the other day that we have had an average of deaths from CoVid 1 every minute for a year now. Twice as many as Brazil which is the 2nd highest death toll in the world.
:laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 11:39:59 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 24, 2021, 12:10:52 PM
Unidirectional all the way baby..
G10 I beam and phenolic tips, gonna make a super bow...
LOL guys:)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I'll race yah... :goldtooth:
:dunno: Guess not... :(
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2021, 12:23:39 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 01:25:34 PM
:laughing:
Post by: Stagmitis on February 24, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 03:30:14 PM
Ya otta use it, I did.
(http://i.imgur.com/2Kh4fmX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/2Kh4fmX)
(http://i.imgur.com/UZ5o7Jp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/UZ5o7Jp)
(http://i.imgur.com/qjL86U1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qjL86U1)
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2021, 03:55:42 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 03:58:32 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on February 24, 2021, 04:04:55 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 04:33:38 PM
I made that rocker, Mike.
Hey Missouri Cupcake, nuff outta you boy:)
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2021, 04:55:33 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 05:09:21 PM
All ya need is fresh green saplings, soak them in hot water, then bend into the shape you want and anchor them somehow till they dry.
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2021, 05:52:57 PM
Dave.
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2021, 05:54:09 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 07:36:57 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 07:48:28 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 08:18:31 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 08:54:31 PM
"In times like these, it’s important to remember – there have always been times like these.” Paul Harvey
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 09:00:10 PM
Post by: skeaterbait on February 24, 2021, 09:01:28 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2021, 09:04:40 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 24, 2021, 09:10:18 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 24, 2021, 09:17:49 PM
Hope your second one treats you better than mine. Felt like crap the day after fever and chills
I hear people are sick 1 day stic, 2nd day much better???????????
My 2nd shot is March 4th :o
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 10:41:47 PM
Ah dang Roy, he ain't got but one...
Kin only use one at a time.
Post by: Longcruise on February 24, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
Hope your second one treats you better than mine. Felt like crap the day after fever and chills
I'm wondering about that ever since I read your earlier comments. The wife got her 2nd today also. We'll see what tomorrow brings!
Post by: 4 point on February 24, 2021, 11:13:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/vCQQ5LD.jpg)
Post by: Buemaker on February 25, 2021, 03:20:49 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 04:35:05 AM
Post by: Buemaker on February 25, 2021, 07:01:56 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2021, 08:30:37 AM
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2021, 08:43:15 AM
Bue, what are the thingies straddling the limb?
I sprayed a bow yesterday, couple more coats today I hope..
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 08:58:12 AM
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2021, 09:09:20 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 09:10:03 AM
3Rivers sells them
Ya got a PM .
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 25, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
I didn't see a dead deer going up but saw what looked like a monster doe on my way back. I stopped and it was a monster buck that had lost its antlers. It looked fresh but I couldn't tell for sure, it was going onto rigor which means it may have been there a few hours.
About that time my brother-in-law came by, I stopped him to see if he had seen the deer on his way to the barn, he hadn't but did say there was a van pulled off at the honkytonk across the street with whole front end mashed in that had been there since early this morning.
We discussed it and decided the deer had been there too long, it was so huge I couldn't have loaded in my Honda anyway although I keep a tarp in my car just in case I need to haul home a road kill. All that meat going to waste, at least 100lbs worth.
I looked up the onset of rigor and it said 5 or 6 hours for the main trunk, this deer's front shoulders were in rigor, it had been in the sun too long.
I hate to miss out on a good roadkill, here we can pick them up and take them home, no questions asked, no need to contact the DNR. Over the years I have picked up 3, two of which I saw get hit, one near my house wasn't on the side of the road when went to town but was when I came back about 45 minutes later.
My last fresh roadkill, still steaming when I cut it up.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 09:59:24 AM
Post by: mmattockx on February 25, 2021, 10:42:53 AM
All that meat going to waste, at least 100lbs worth.
I understand your sentiment on that, but the scavengers that will strip that carcass clean don't think the meat is going to waste.
Mark
Post by: Flem on February 25, 2021, 10:59:33 AM
Post by: Longcruise on February 25, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 11:57:09 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2021, 12:32:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/NGWprT4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NEampBH.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2021, 01:00:31 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 25, 2021, 01:09:01 PM
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2021, 01:11:23 PM
Adjustable for different limb widths.
3Rivers sells them
Ya got a PM .
Ouch, shipping is more than half the cost of the item.
Post by: Longcruise on February 25, 2021, 01:48:36 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2021, 07:38:03 PM
Post by: buddyb on February 25, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
Post by: Walt Francis on February 25, 2021, 08:21:26 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2021, 08:23:23 PM
I picked up a new tool today from HF I think will work for tip shaping and corner rounding and sight window work. 1/2x18 p-newmatic :biglaugh: operated belt sander.
(https://i.imgur.com/NGWprT4.jpg)
I have one of those stic for metal work.
what grit sand paper are you going to use??
That thing is loud on full power
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 25, 2021, 08:41:45 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2021, 08:46:26 PM
Mine has a platen bar behind the belt, maybe should take that out :dunno:
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2021, 11:22:13 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 26, 2021, 05:10:29 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 06:12:28 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2021, 07:33:03 AM
Stic, I have one of those. I tried it for roughing out shelves and I didn't care for it, I used 40 grit. I decided a farriers rasp was faster. They seem to go thru belts quickly.
And eat up air Quickly
Nice picture Bue :bigsmyl:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 26, 2021, 07:50:34 AM
Nice Bue and 4 point
Post by: Shredd on February 26, 2021, 09:54:50 AM
Nice job Bue on bow and picture:)
:thumbsup:
Actually the bow looks crooked in the pic... :goldtooth:
Nice looking lines Bue... How about one at full draw...
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 09:56:43 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 26, 2021, 10:50:42 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 26, 2021, 04:43:05 PM
At least I must have my morning coffee with «special» sweetener first.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 05:30:12 PM
Have a new motor under the bench and decided to make my own sander, got the arbor adapter the other day.
Made the wood adapter for under the bandsaw table to collect the dust, got to wait for the magnet glue up to dry..
Made a bow stringer for my victims swap bow.
And my manual miter saw was delivered, got a good one, purty nice.
Sent the miniature electric one back, it wasn't gonna do what I needed.
Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2021, 06:15:53 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2021, 06:28:11 PM
Post by: mmattockx on February 26, 2021, 07:58:56 PM
I think he uses a "special" sweetener in his coffee in the morning:)
Doesn't everyone use some whisky in their coffee to get the day started right? :coffee: :bigsmyl:
did not happen wif out pictures
+1. Sounds like at least one or two build threads are required from that laundry list.
Mark
Post by: Shredd on February 26, 2021, 10:22:37 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2021, 11:34:10 PM
Roy... Looks like you are gettin a lot of stuff done... What's your bow stringer look like / how you making it??
He did nt do none of dat stuff :tongue:
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Cause? I'm a bit surprised by the complete delam (so to speak) on the belly. There is a hint of a dark line running through the limb, kinda wondering if there was some weakness in the area that let it split parallel to the back/belly and then fold. I thought I heard a tink just before, but running my hands and eye over it completely I couldn't find anything.
Post by: flyonline on February 27, 2021, 03:27:47 AM
Anyhoo, onwards and upwards :laughing: :banghead:
Post by: williwaw on February 27, 2021, 04:42:51 AM
was looking nice, is it osage? Stained on the back?, Almost looks toasted?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 05:50:07 AM
Seems odd it broke at that dark spot, so I'm guessing there was a problem with the wood in that area.
Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2021, 09:27:25 AM
Post by: Flem on February 27, 2021, 09:45:54 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 10:49:44 AM
Stringer made with deer hide and paracord.
There are several ways to make a stringer, this is only one of them.
I cut a piece of deer hide or any leather into a 3 inch diameter circle, then cut it in half. Then fold one piece over and punch 4 holes into the bottom flat edge. Then I weave the paracord through the holes and bring out about a 6 inch tag end. I tie both sections of the paracord into an overhand knot leaving about an inch space from the leather part. Then I punch 4 holes at the top and stitch that with sinew, that gives ya a little edge to grasp onto.
This is for the bandsaw, seen this on YouTube a while back.
Magnets counter sunk into the wood with glue, might not need the glue cause I had to tap them in with a hammer and block of wood. Slots cutout for the blade clearance. Cut down an end for my shop vac hose. There is a 1/2" deep void under the saw table that will leave a channel into the shop vac hose.
This last picture they look to be a different size, but they are identical in size. Looks different cause the piece with the hose attachment has it raised up 3 inches off the table.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 10:59:26 AM
Have a good new motor so decided to try a project.
It's not completed yet.
When done the bolt sticking out the right side is going to be counter sunk a 1/16th of an inch then ea40 to make the depression smooth.
Post by: Flem on February 27, 2021, 11:06:52 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 11:09:04 AM
Ya otta see some of Stickypops contraptions:)
And Kenny, just watch your fingers boy, don't wanna see comments from the peanut gallery:)
:wavey: :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2021, 04:19:11 PM
nice work on the other stuff :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 05:18:53 PM
Might just buy me a new belt/disc sander, mine is 30 years old and no disc, but not sure if I wanna drop $300.00
Post by: kennym on February 27, 2021, 05:36:28 PM
I'm looking at em too. My 30 year old 6" skil is about done. Hate it too because the tables on newer ones don't seem to be super sturdy
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 05:38:22 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 05:51:37 PM
LOL, ya only get what ya pay for...Not necessarily, I once paid good money for a German made bandsaw. What junk. I can’t believe it was made in Germany. My Grizzly saw is 100 times better.
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
I can get the shop fox 42" x 1" belt and 8" disc for $215.00 delivered...
Tempting....
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Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 06:45:37 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 06:47:18 PM
I learned a lot from that saw. No matter what the maker’s reputation, always look closely at it.
Dave.
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 06:48:33 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2021, 06:58:03 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 06:58:29 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 27, 2021, 07:03:08 PM
But I thought the Italians were known for their mason work, glass, pizza and make one hell of a wine...
They combined the wine and pizza on a construction job and the building is about ready to fall over! :scared:
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 07:04:01 PM
Have you ever seen some of the boats they build?
Dave.
Post by: Stagmitis on February 27, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 27, 2021, 07:26:28 PM
Post by: kennym on February 27, 2021, 07:29:14 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 07:30:14 PM
Dave.
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 27, 2021, 07:31:30 PM
Dave.
Post by: kennym on February 27, 2021, 07:32:16 PM
Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 07:35:54 PM
But my shredding days are over... :tongue: Now I pour my passion into making bows and playing pool...
Post by: Shredd on February 27, 2021, 07:39:29 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2021, 08:23:32 PM
Post by: flyonline on February 28, 2021, 01:57:38 AM
what is that dark spot above the cursor? The break looks like a tension break, across the crown
was looking nice, is it osage? Stained on the back?, Almost looks toasted?
That's just a tiny piece of missing wood causing a shadow, the wood is not blemished in that spot as far as I can see, at least on the back. No stain or toasting done.
Flem
although I'm not 100% sure, I don't remember that I heated it at all and a quick check again makes me think that's still right. I believe I split the sister billets from a larger piece that had been sitting around for a few years, then roughed it out before another pause, which may(?) account for the darkened areas.
Gives me confidence going forward to do some more splicing though, as I have plenty of billets stashed away in pairs.
Post by: Buemaker on February 28, 2021, 08:02:46 AM
Full draw is at 28 inches.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2021, 08:04:12 AM
:thumbsup: :laughing:
Very nice bend...
Post by: kennym on February 28, 2021, 10:59:34 AM
Post by: Shredd on February 28, 2021, 12:40:36 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 28, 2021, 06:10:27 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 06:06:21 AM
My belt sander is 30 years old and I removed the 6" disc years ago because it made the machine vibrate like crazy.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 06:10:33 AM
I seen they sell the sanding belts in 50 foot rolls and you need something like a special tape to adhere the ends together?
May be cheaper in the long run if they hold together!
Or it could make ya tear your hair out?
But they gotta tape them together wherever they make them.
Post by: Buemaker on March 01, 2021, 07:26:41 AM
Post by: flntknp17 on March 01, 2021, 09:41:48 AM
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Post by: Buemaker on March 01, 2021, 09:46:16 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 09:50:28 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 01, 2021, 10:21:15 AM
Post by: Flem on March 01, 2021, 10:46:40 AM
Anyone ever make up your own sanding belts?
I seen they sell the sanding belts in 50 foot rolls and you need something like a special tape to adhere the ends together?
May be cheaper in the long run if they hold together!
Or it could make ya tear your hair out?
But they gotta tape them together wherever they make them.
I thought about making my own, till I found out how inexpensive 2X72 belts are. I know you need a polyester or PTFE fiber reinforced tape with a thermosetting adhesive to splice.
Post by: Shredd on March 01, 2021, 11:42:33 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 11:45:18 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 01, 2021, 03:54:58 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 01, 2021, 04:07:45 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on March 01, 2021, 06:02:32 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 01, 2021, 06:06:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 01, 2021, 08:58:22 PM
Bokotay!
Yah us :bigsmyl:
Yes
Post by: Flem on March 02, 2021, 12:04:07 PM
Flem... Do you have a link on where to get that tape?? I would like to repair belts that break on me...
Rich ya have a PM
I'm guessing Roy hooked you up. Which would be good because I never bought the splicing tape.
I recall it was expensive, had a shelf life and you had to buy a lot of it. It might have needed to be stored in the freezer?? I think there were only a couple of manufactures, 3M and the other "I cant remember". Seemed to be a lot of folks selling the rebranded "I cant remember" tape.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 02, 2021, 12:19:59 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 03, 2021, 08:31:59 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 03, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
Nothing worse than washing skunk piss off a dog.
Post by: Mad Max on March 03, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 04, 2021, 07:40:47 AM
I will keep you updated on how I feel :scared:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 07:47:04 AM
Get the second shot in 2 weeks.
Post by: Pat B on March 04, 2021, 08:38:03 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 04, 2021, 09:33:21 AM
. felt like the flu. The next day much better.
Post by: Longcruise on March 04, 2021, 09:38:33 AM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 04, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
Post by: buddyb on March 04, 2021, 10:18:15 AM
Post by: kennym on March 04, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
Helped bro burn some more tall grass CRP , don't know how to post video tho...
Send it to you tube, then copy URL and paste in text box.
Post by: kennym on March 04, 2021, 05:16:04 PM
I did get the target my bro ordered for me put in the yard today.
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Post by: Buemaker on March 04, 2021, 05:23:48 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 05:25:52 PM
Post by: kennym on March 04, 2021, 05:32:26 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 04, 2021, 05:47:51 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 04, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 06:40:16 AM
I'm going to get that 2nd shot this morning :o
I will keep you updated on how I feel :scared:
Feeling good this morning :bigsmyl:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 06:53:35 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:05:41 AM
Cut off the bad section of an Osage split, check out those growth rings:)
Sealed her back up.
Made a bandsaw blade guide cover out of oak.
Removed old sander and attached bigger table top for the new sander coming, it's a bit larger than my old sander.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:08:09 AM
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Also put 3rd coat of tung oil on swap bow, think one more coat should do it.
Post by: Buemaker on March 05, 2021, 07:20:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:25:59 AM
You are real busy Roy, is it spring fever?
It sure is, Bue.
23 degrees here right now, but going to be in the 60's this coming Tuesday and Wednesday:)
Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 07:26:48 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 07:35:47 AM
Post by: flntknp17 on March 05, 2021, 09:38:05 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 05, 2021, 10:02:46 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 05, 2021, 10:37:10 AM
Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2021, 11:51:40 AM
Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2021, 12:29:45 PM
Post by: kennym on March 05, 2021, 08:12:19 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 08:33:39 PM
Need some pictures of the rings :bigsmyl:
Post by: kennym on March 05, 2021, 08:49:33 PM
He said there are some really nice and some knarly
Post by: Mad Max on March 05, 2021, 10:11:15 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 06, 2021, 04:14:16 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 07, 2021, 01:53:09 AM
This to me looks like a select piece of Sheoak with a nice red color... I think there are about five different species... The deep red color could be coming from one of the species or possibly minerals in the ground... The grain can get very interesting depending on how you slice the wood... And it also has chatoyance where the grain can almost disappear when the piece of wood is shifted in the light...
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2021, 04:04:00 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 07, 2021, 07:41:43 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2021, 08:09:41 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2021, 08:35:09 AM
Yes, installed a photo resize app into my cell phone.
Simple and easy to resize pictures.
Post by: Stagmitis on March 07, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 07, 2021, 07:02:27 PM
Post by: Pat B on March 07, 2021, 10:37:30 PM
Post by: bow loving man on March 07, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
Post by: flyonline on March 08, 2021, 03:49:30 AM
(http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/hairy%20oak/hairy%20oak%201%20end%20grain%20s25%20plh.jpg)
I believe the cones are also great for smoking food, and it makes good firewood. Never tried it myself, I've heard it mentioned but haven't seen a selfbow made of it either. Another one to add to the list.....
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 06:58:15 AM
Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 09:43:31 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 10:11:09 AM
But it did keep way less dust out of the saw bottom.
Thinking about a 1.5 inch plastic pipe with a slot cut out just wide enough for the saw blade and say cut a hole on top just around the blade path, then hook the vac hose to the end of it.
My wheels are turning, LOL...
Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 10:14:54 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 10:16:08 AM
I'll see if I can find those types.
Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 10:19:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 10:19:20 AM
Prolly otta use duct tape, LOL
Post by: Shredd on March 08, 2021, 11:18:50 AM
At a guess that looks like Hairy Oak (from the related family Allocasuarina). Between the Casuarina and Allocasuarina families there's quite a few species - Wikipedia <cough> lists 77 species.
(http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/hairy%20oak/hairy%20oak%201%20end%20grain%20s25%20plh.jpg)
I believe the cones are also great for smoking food, and it makes good firewood. Never tried it myself, I've heard it mentioned but haven't seen a selfbow made of it either. Another one to add to the list.....
Good guess... I asked and he said it was Hairy Oak... Yes, another species of Sheoak...
I don't know about the seed pods but the wood is supposed to be the best cooking wood... I researched it years ago and a couple of people said it is too brittle for a self bow... But I might not go by that... You never know unless you try and one of those species might be good for a self bow... You will have to let us know...
Post by: Longcruise on March 08, 2021, 11:20:18 AM
Took one off the form, first try with topless...and cleaned it up
How'd you like the topless?
Post by: bow loving man on March 08, 2021, 11:41:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
Just sayen.......
Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 04:25:30 PM
This morning I had a key that needed to be put back on a nail on a tree next to the gate at the hunting club.
So I stopped by the gate on my way to the coffee shop and there was a cardboard box about 20' away from the gate with the top closed, so I went over there to collect my Million dollars found on the side of the road. When I was opening the box my mind said watch out, but I pulled back the top and 2 White Puppies in there (eye's still closed), so I grab them up in the box, Frost was on my windshield this morning but I don't know how cold it was.
I called a friend girl I know and took them to here. She was happy to help. They started moving around after 5 minutes in my truck on the way to her house.
Makes you feel good and P Oed at the same time.
Feeling good today :thumbsup:
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 08, 2021, 04:36:52 PM
There’s a bunch of ways to get rid of unwanted pups. Abandoning isn’t one of them.
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2021, 04:54:14 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 05:01:49 PM
Was there an address on the box? Good for you, Mark. I don't understand people that abuse animals, and puppies no less.
Thanks pat I will find out if there is a address :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 05:34:14 PM
The day keeps getting better.
Post by: Shredd on March 08, 2021, 05:36:55 PM
Post some pics of them when if you can...
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 05:39:46 PM
I like to put who ever did it in a box out in the cold.
Yer a good man, Mark..
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on March 08, 2021, 05:41:21 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on March 08, 2021, 06:02:06 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 06:45:44 PM
My friend is doing all the work.
:thumbsup:to her.
Now I'm going to want to look in every box I see on the roads.
Post by: Bvas on March 08, 2021, 08:20:44 PM
You just moved up a spot on the pecking order as far as I am concerned. :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 08:31:52 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 08, 2021, 08:59:35 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 09:21:10 PM
You’re a good man Max! I’d like to have a discussion with the person that did that!
Me too.
No address on the box.
The Mama dog fell threw.
The pups are in the hands of a lady that bottle feeds lots of puppies until weaned.
And then they will go to a Society that's takes abandoned dogs and will place them to responsible homeowners.
My friend really came threw today and the dogs are in good hands. :thumbsup:
I know this is off topic for the forum, Hope Terry don't mind to much.
Thanks everybody ;)
Post by: kennym on March 08, 2021, 09:25:57 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 09:28:24 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 09:29:17 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2021, 09:33:31 PM
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Post by: 4 point on March 08, 2021, 10:17:18 PM
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Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2021, 10:29:25 PM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 08, 2021, 10:52:34 PM
Gotta love the best friends! This is Betty, our 1 year old French Bulldog.
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Post by: Flem on March 08, 2021, 11:15:34 PM
Shotgun Bert. Thats his seat and he knows it!
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Post by: Mad Max on March 08, 2021, 11:17:15 PM
I had a Doberman in the 80's from 6 weeks until 7 years, she had lymphoma and I had to put her down.
It liked to have killed me loosing her.
I can't do that again.
Meet Hilda
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Toped out at 65#
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Post by: mmattockx on March 08, 2021, 11:23:16 PM
I’d like to have a discussion with the person that did that!
+1. Anyone that would do that needs an attitude adjustment.
How does anyone live without dogs. :dunno:
Indeed, they are some of the finest creatures on this planet. I had to put my last one down in December (that never gets any easier), will be getting a new one later this year or early next after our new house is built.
Mark
Post by: zhangkeyang on March 09, 2021, 01:19:45 AM
Post by: flyonline on March 09, 2021, 04:02:17 AM
Steve is that also called blood wood?
Not that I know of, but Hairy Oak grows in a different part of the country to me.
Go Max!
We lost our two dogs within a year a while ago, must admit I'm not missing the vet bills, finding them somewhere to stay when we go away, the dead chooks/snakes/birds, the 'landmines' and bat breath.
Do miss the licks and snuggles on a cold morning though. Our GSD turned a 3 dog night into a 1 dog night too!
Post by: Flem on March 09, 2021, 08:32:16 AM
Looks like us goofy N. Americans aren't the only critter lovers :)
Thats one fine looking friend you have there Zhang.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2021, 09:30:58 AM
Found a nice piece of wood for the riser.
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Post by: kennym on March 09, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on March 09, 2021, 10:26:14 AM
Went to the gym for the first time in a year. The wife went into a department store first time in a year. Went to Costco first time in a year.
I'll say that the wife has not done well over this pandemic. It has had a lot of negative impact on her. Me, not so much. I keep busy with hobbies, hunting and just hitting the woods.
Before and after. :)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2021, 10:33:54 AM
Our second shot is this coming Sunday.
Looking forward to it, hope the reaction doesn't hit us too hard.
Post by: Longcruise on March 09, 2021, 11:53:15 AM
Post by: Longcruise on March 09, 2021, 11:58:25 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 10, 2021, 08:15:51 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 10, 2021, 08:43:37 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 10, 2021, 08:47:44 AM
I think Longcruise looks much younger in the blue T shirt, kind of hippie style.
He has those dingle balls on his lamp shade in the back ground :bigsmyl:
Where is your Keep on Trucking poster
Post by: Flem on March 10, 2021, 08:52:38 AM
Post by: Longcruise on March 10, 2021, 09:14:16 AM
Very distinguished, if disheveled look Longcruise, you look like a professor :saywhat:
Yeah, yeah, that's it, like a professor........ yeah, that's it! :)
Quote
poster???‽‽‽ :dunno:
Post by: Flem on March 10, 2021, 05:04:32 PM
Post by: onetone on March 10, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 10, 2021, 10:28:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/H5zEPcV.jpg)
Post by: Buemaker on March 11, 2021, 02:12:40 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 04:12:42 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 05:15:07 PM
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Started another bow too.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 11, 2021, 06:19:30 PM
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Post by: kennym on March 11, 2021, 08:41:21 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2021, 08:46:52 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 11, 2021, 09:20:34 PM
Post by: Flem on March 11, 2021, 11:14:17 PM
Got 24" of snow last night. Woke up to find a roof leak from this ridiculous ice dam above my deck. Spent 3 hours digging the house out and then started cutting back drywall and getting some heat trace up on that ice. Been a fun day...
Powder day!
Nice sander Roy :thumbsup: Look to have a decent size motor.
Post by: hunting badger on March 12, 2021, 02:07:04 AM
Post by: Stagmitis on March 12, 2021, 07:31:58 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 07:46:52 AM
Flem it's only 1/3 hp motor.
Post by: kennym on March 12, 2021, 08:11:51 AM
Risers and buffalo horn tip overlays.
Flem it's only 1/3 hp motor.
Same motor as in your Yoter? :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 08:35:32 AM
:laughing: :wavey:
Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 09:25:10 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on March 12, 2021, 12:20:51 PM
Heh, we gots a Jeep too:)
She gots a jeep. :biglaugh:
Post by: Longcruise on March 12, 2021, 12:25:25 PM
Got fert on the lawn so the snow should soak it in.
Won't be doing much in the shop so I'm stitching leather.
Post by: Flem on March 12, 2021, 12:29:20 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 12, 2021, 03:29:44 PM
Post by: Flem on March 13, 2021, 09:25:02 AM
Damn that controls the power to the whole vehicle...
Dont I know it!
I actually purchased something I probably could have made. Hope I'm not getting too lazy to be cheap!
These little G10 rods are for handle pins, but I was thinking it might look cool doing some kind of mosaic pattern for an arrow pass. I like inlays and such instead of leather. The colors don't not come thru well in pics, but it they look great sanded and moistened.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2021, 04:34:17 AM
Post by: Longcruise on March 14, 2021, 03:38:00 PM
It's a cold day in the shop. Maybe make some bow stringers later. Electricity just went out again for the 5th time.
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Oops electricity just came on and went out again!
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2021, 06:13:57 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 14, 2021, 06:48:02 PM
Mike how about a few pictures of how you make your stringers?
x2
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
Mike how about a few pictures of how you make your stringers?
x2
X3
Post by: Longcruise on March 14, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
Snow is still coming down! :o
Probably more than my anemic little snow blower can handle. :)
Post by: Flem on March 14, 2021, 11:18:34 PM
Knife handle pins.
Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 06:29:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 06:31:22 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 06:45:48 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 09:36:29 AM
Growing weary of cold temps...
Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 09:40:46 AM
Post by: Flem on March 15, 2021, 10:41:51 AM
Did you check it out for damage Bue?
Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 11:24:50 AM
.oo35 is a hair bue :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 12:33:29 PM
Post by: mmattockx on March 15, 2021, 12:45:24 PM
I am using the Bjorn glassfiber and had a strip that I peeled off a bowlimb. Thought I would see how much bend it could take without any damage. The diameter on this bend is about 2 inches. After it springs back to completely straight.
Max, the glass is .035 thick.
As severe as that looks, that only works out to 1.75% strain which is well below the limits for glass lams.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 02:14:34 PM
Put yer specs on Maxi-Boy:)
You can change text and Pictures Roy
But I got your number :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2021, 04:21:57 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 05:38:16 PM
:jumper: :tongue:
Post by: Buemaker on March 16, 2021, 04:45:43 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 06:39:20 AM
Post by: Flem on March 16, 2021, 08:25:21 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 08:30:49 AM
I let the shop go for so long till it starts bothering me, then clean up a bit...
Post by: Mad Max on March 16, 2021, 08:48:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6JwJFO3.jpg)
Before starting a new bow
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 08:51:41 AM
Yupper:)
:thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on March 16, 2021, 09:20:14 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 04:31:32 PM
Tried out the new bow stringer, works fantastic.....
Shot the swap bow.
Cut out a bow pattern from a piece of boo.
Did preventive maintenance on the drum sander.
Got the dust collector modification for the bandsaw up and running, works pretty darn well sucking up the dust....
Workbench looks like Maxi-Boys...
Time for dinner:)
Post by: Mad Max on March 16, 2021, 04:37:27 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 05:59:43 PM
Post by: Flem on March 17, 2021, 11:29:22 AM
Post by: kennym on March 17, 2021, 12:59:27 PM
Made me remake my .002 sled ... :knothead:
Post by: knuklhed on March 17, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
Got the dust collector modification for the bandsaw up and running, works pretty darn well sucking up the dust....
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Pichers????? I'd like to see what you came up with.
Post by: Buemaker on March 17, 2021, 01:40:12 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 17, 2021, 02:20:34 PM
KennyM did you mess up your sanding belt?
Post by: Shredd on March 17, 2021, 03:01:24 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 17, 2021, 04:47:33 PM
Ohhhhh Chit.... Sorry there buddy.... I am sure you have a master sled...
He don't have no master sled, he IS the master sled maker :goldtooth:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 06:15:19 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 06:23:04 PM
I seen one that used a 6 inch long piece of 1.5" plastic pipe that should really work well.
I might try that later on but this works so good it's fine now.
Post by: kennym on March 17, 2021, 06:39:48 PM
That .002 sled was pretty thick anyway and just cleaned it back up with the CNCed aluminum master sled.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 07:47:55 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 17, 2021, 07:53:13 PM
WoW Roy... Aint you Mr. Tricky?? :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on March 17, 2021, 08:00:59 PM
Told yah he had a master sled... He's no dummy... :)
WoW Roy... Aint you Mr. Tricky?? :thumbsup:
gOT A MASTER SLED ANYWAYS... :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on March 17, 2021, 09:57:23 PM
Told yah he had a master sled... He's no dummy... :)
WoW Roy... Aint you Mr. Tricky?? :thumbsup:
:laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 04:00:17 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 08:52:47 AM
Post by: Flem on March 18, 2021, 09:30:32 AM
Post by: kennym on March 18, 2021, 09:54:46 AM
:wavey: Kenny when you kick-off can I have you master sleds?? :laughing:
When that happens , they may be up for sale... :biglaugh: :wavey:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 10:02:17 AM
:laughing:
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2021, 10:08:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 11:09:33 AM
Is that a sand paper tube and it's replaceable I assume?
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2021, 11:21:08 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 11:36:36 AM
Kenny... Whatcha gonna do with all that money?? Take it with you?? :laughing:
Quick story...
I probably mentioned my buddy passed on about 9 months ago... I go and visit him a day or two before he passed... 6 months before he said that he had some calipers that I can have... Mine were acting up... He used to be a machinist... I asked him if I can have those calipers?? He said yes, go out in the tool box and get them... I came back with the calipers and a 2 inch micrometer... I said can I have this too?? He said, are you kidding me?? That cost me $300... I was like, ok... :dunno: I am not gonna argue with a dying man... I knew he wasn't right in the head... I still laugh at that to this day... I know wherever he is he is probably laughing at it too... :laughing:
Love Yah, Gary.... Hope you are in a good place....
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 18, 2021, 12:14:02 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 02:27:27 PM
I lost my best friend John, about 6 years ago, we were brothers in the truest meaning of the word.
The sander Bue, I did see that on Grizzly site, might have to order one....
Looks like the sanding drums are $8.00 each, damn,,,
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 18, 2021, 04:47:29 PM
Dave.
Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 05:04:30 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Woodstock-D4623-Sanding-Sleeve-Grit/dp/B01K4JSZQC/ref=pd_bxgy_2/144-6103160-0798620?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01K4JSZ8K&pd_rd_r=b35fe609-e9a5-47c2-a0aa-1b0c19072cdb&pd_rd_w=53xLT&pd_rd_wg=HnqQF&pf_rd_p=f325d01c-4658-4593-be83-3e12ca663f0e&pf_rd_r=95E2KZJ7KA4NJ51CCETN&refRID=95E2KZJ7KA4NJ51CCETN&th=1
Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 05:05:34 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 05:31:53 PM
Supergrit sells them even cheaper.
$10.00 for 5 of them.
Post by: kennym on March 18, 2021, 07:38:33 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 18, 2021, 08:17:23 PM
Roy, I remember now that you said it, I got my sleeves at super grit.
I try to get all my belts from them :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2021, 08:49:24 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 18, 2021, 09:09:42 PM
Shreddy ... I measure wealth in arrows . Right now I’m pretty poor... :biglaugh:
Damn Bro... I had no idea... You should have said something... I got a bunch of broken and bent ones I can send you... :laughing:
Post by: kennym on March 18, 2021, 09:56:03 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 08:13:47 AM
:wavey:
Post by: Longcruise on March 19, 2021, 10:09:29 AM
Shreddy ... I measure wealth in arrows . Right now I’m pretty poor... :biglaugh:
Does that mean I can pay for my next order with arrows?¿? :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 11:55:39 AM
Post by: williwaw on March 19, 2021, 12:51:09 PM
Finally warmed up so much that I can use this dust making devil outdoors.
Nice setup for taking the sanding outside. Is the snow melting at your place? off the target yet?
Post by: Buemaker on March 19, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 19, 2021, 01:17:30 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 01:28:29 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 02:22:00 PM
Post by: kennym on March 19, 2021, 04:58:13 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 19, 2021, 05:44:18 PM
Post by: kennym on March 19, 2021, 09:00:44 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:38:09 AM
Post by: Flem on March 20, 2021, 08:41:38 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 20, 2021, 11:53:32 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 20, 2021, 01:26:28 PM
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?board=5.0
Pow Wow
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?board=2.0
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 04:08:24 PM
Added a little more reflex also.
Not sure if that was a good idea or not, yet:)
Was looking at it and a thought crossed my mind, be careful Mr. Kennedy:)
Was thinking about you guys making those forward handle bows and thought if this extra deflex accomplishes the same concept?
Can't wait to pull this one out of the form.....
Anyways here she is:
https://youtu.be/9-ajdJgU7Oo
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 04:18:51 PM
Speaking of forward handles, anyone seen "Forward Handle", AKA Rich I think is his name?
He has not posted in a long time, hope all is ok with him.
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 20, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Was looking at it and a thought crossed my mind, be careful Mr. Kennedy:)
I thought I saw smoke rising from the East! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 05:04:13 PM
LOL
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 20, 2021, 05:15:59 PM
Post by: Flem on March 20, 2021, 06:15:55 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:18:04 PM
Post by: Flem on March 20, 2021, 06:21:53 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:28:34 PM
:knothead:
Post by: kennym on March 20, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
How the hell do you lift that thing Roy? It looks like it weighs 50#!! and its awkward :dunno:
Chris one hands it for him, right Rody? :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2021, 06:45:02 PM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on March 20, 2021, 06:50:40 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 20, 2021, 08:03:55 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 20, 2021, 09:56:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FajCvrj.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on March 20, 2021, 10:15:47 PM
4-1/2" radius :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/E1f34iz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SpJL3cD.jpg)
Post by: 4 point on March 20, 2021, 10:28:46 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 20, 2021, 10:59:09 PM
Sounds good Ol' Rawhide... We'll compare notes...
Tanks Max...
Post by: Buemaker on March 21, 2021, 08:11:39 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 08:17:08 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 21, 2021, 08:25:24 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 21, 2021, 08:54:05 AM
I use a 2" radius for static's but it will open up a tiny bit.
Nice setup Bue
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:00:58 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on March 21, 2021, 06:23:43 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:30:44 PM
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 06:32:45 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:36:39 PM
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 06:40:43 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 21, 2021, 06:41:55 PM
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 07:08:35 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 21, 2021, 08:30:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nsWH2Hb.jpg)
Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 08:41:10 PM
My buddy is just getting into archery... He found some big ol fields with those big ol round hay bales on it... Recipe for fun.... I tried my hand at some flight shooting today and got then arrows to go about 280 yds... I was like damn, holy chit, what the hell... I had no idea that they were gonna go that far... And I still can't believe it...
Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 08:51:50 PM
Post by: Longcruise on March 21, 2021, 09:11:03 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 09:13:54 PM
Did it break all the way? Looks like it let go at the nock point.
It did not break... It's kind of a double exposure...
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2021, 09:19:27 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 21, 2021, 09:21:17 PM
Post by: Shredd on March 21, 2021, 09:41:03 PM
I was wondering how it did that! That’s the string after the shot up front ?
I guess... lol... Would love to see a slow-mo of the whole shot cycle...
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 05:42:32 AM
That is weird for sure, the string I mean:)
My old 42# Bear takedown launches a light flight arrow at least 300 yards...
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 07:31:12 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 08:00:40 AM
Looks like a Foster Grant sunglass poster:)
That is weird for sure, the string I mean:)
My old 42# Bear takedown launches a light flight arrow at least 300 yards...
I have seen a slow-mo video before... The string definitely does some oscillating...
It's amazing, isn't it?? Never thought about how far they can shoot... :o This bow is 39# to 40# shooting a 410 gr. arrow... Next time I am gonna mark it off and get an accurate measurement...
Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 08:03:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwbc7yBwDBs
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 08:18:02 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 08:23:53 AM
The first shot to a target, the bow has to be held at a 45 degree angle, the rest of the shots are however you want.
I made up some flight arrows with only two 2 inch long feathers on it to guide it.
I tried aluminum, carbon, and wood to get the lightest arrow and put a 50 grain little target tip on them.
The wood arrow weighed the least, I'd have bet on aluminum to be the lightest.
The total arrow weight was about 300 grains for the wooden arrow.
My 42# bear takedown was hanging right in there with 60 to 65 pound bows, I never would have thought that?
Brings me back to what I said a few weeks ago about a longer riser and shorter limbs is a pretty fast combination...
Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 08:41:42 AM
Kenny... I think I read about this before... I believe the digital camera does some kind of sweeping motion to take the pic and if you can beat it to the punch you can get multiple images in one photo...
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 08:48:12 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 09:13:43 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2021, 09:14:32 AM
In contrast to the failure with the Field bow limbs, the footbow limbs I built this year turned out to be the best performing and most durable that I have made up to this point. Of the arrows found, every cleanly shot arrow exceeded a mile. The biggest issue was finding the arrows. At the Smith Creek dry lake, the longest drawn arrows disappeared into an area of hummocks covered with vegetation that we didn’t realize was there. At the Bonneville Salt Flats, the longest drawn shots just couldn’t be found. I lost so many arrows. The longest verified shot was just over 1,986 yards plus 1-foot.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 09:20:11 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 22, 2021, 09:46:24 AM
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 10:29:17 AM
Post by: mmattockx on March 22, 2021, 10:30:19 AM
Mark
Post by: Flem on March 22, 2021, 11:06:38 AM
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Post by: B-JS on March 22, 2021, 03:04:33 PM
Had to string a 60" hybrid longbow with 105# without a Stringer.
10mm (0.4") Stack with 1,3mm (0.05") Glass.
Post by: Longcruise on March 22, 2021, 04:08:17 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 22, 2021, 04:09:52 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRWvY8PUPwk
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 04:54:02 PM
Converted my 4" metal bench vice over to a 6" x 3" wooden block vice padded with rubber....
Glued the riser on the bow today.
Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2021, 06:33:19 PM
Lookin good roy
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 06:36:34 PM
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2021, 08:40:15 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 22, 2021, 09:01:22 PM
I had to slow them down cause the feathers were burning off b4 the arrow got to the target
and I was missing high...
And its a longbow not one of dem recurve thingahmajigs....
But I'll try more hook on next one just cause I wanna smoke the pants off ole Shreddys bows.
Plus this one is headed out west for a guy who never shot a stickbow, yet.
So he doesn't need the speed demon rody special, yet...
Post by: mmattockx on March 22, 2021, 09:42:37 PM
I'd have trouble with that using a stringer. :o
+1, that is a stout bow.
Mark
Post by: Flem on March 22, 2021, 10:32:34 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 23, 2021, 12:25:19 PM
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Post by: Shredd on March 23, 2021, 02:34:41 PM
If your gonna catch me you better be shootin that bow out of that corvette that Kenny mentioned doing a buck 20... :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on March 23, 2021, 04:20:22 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 23, 2021, 05:19:37 PM
Needs cleaned up yet.
Post by: Bvas on March 23, 2021, 07:49:16 PM
Or did Chris just get tired of your grumpy butt and vanquish you to the shop.
Either way, nice job. :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 23, 2021, 08:36:16 PM
Been a long time since I was serious about making bows.
Chris with her cancer, then my back, then the virus and riots, then the depression all that crap sent me into.
Then the guys talked me into the swap and I knew I had to do better for the swap bow.
And it turned out so nice and a month ago, a buddy with 60 acres in Ohio who supplies me with Osage logs, asked me to make one for a friend of his out west. What could I say to my Osage supplier? LOL
And seeing all the awesome risers the glass bow guys in here make, got me thinking about making nicer risers, and the light came on:)
So been spending more time in the shop the past 2 months, thinking how I can do better.
And icing on the cake, I decided it was time to get rid of the belly fat, so I've lost 19 pounds the past 2 months.....
Post by: 4 point on March 23, 2021, 09:30:05 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 23, 2021, 09:35:33 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AlXKn33.jpg)
Post by: kennym on March 23, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
Post by: hunting badger on March 23, 2021, 11:51:25 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 03:58:39 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 04:01:03 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 04:40:44 AM
Wholly crap Ken, got 13 here.
Travis that is wild..
Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 11:02:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 11:12:26 AM
Post by: Flem on March 24, 2021, 11:47:25 AM
Anyone who has done woodworking with fruitwood knows they can be brittle, have irregular/bad grain and a lot of them check like crazy!
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I have a bunch of this Apricot wood. The color and grain are really beautiful, but getting a usable uncracked
piece is impossible. So I decided to see if I could fill the cracks enough to have a usable chunk.
The usual process is like stabilizing wood, but I did want to soak the piece in epoxy. I poured a low viscosity epoxy (System Three Clearcoat) over the cracked area and threw it into a vacuum bag and lowered the vac pressure to 10Hg, which is less than half of what I am able to pull at my elevation.
I was really amazed at the amount of penetration in this Apple test piece. The tiny radial cracks at the bottom of the the V are almost imperceptible without magnification, but they filled with epoxy!
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Now I just have to figure out the color of the fill so it does not look like crap!
Post by: skeaterbait on March 24, 2021, 12:39:06 PM
Post by: williwaw on March 24, 2021, 01:03:58 PM
The usual process is like stabilizing wood, but I did want to soak the piece in epoxy. I poured a low viscosity epoxy (System Three Clearcoat) over the cracked area and threw it into a vacuum bag and lowered the vac pressure to 10Hg, which is less than half of what I am able to pull at my elevation.
I was really amazed at the amount of penetration in this Apple test piece. The tiny radial cracks at the bottom of the the V are almost imperceptible without magnification, but they filled with epoxy!
cool experimemt. how much did it penetrate and how long was the piece?
Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 03:26:23 PM
Post by: Flem on March 24, 2021, 04:07:49 PM
"cool experimemt. how much did it penetrate and how long was the piece?"
It's a 1 1/2" dia. Maybe 6" of crack. The piece was a natural fork and after the epoxy it was stout enough to become a slingshot.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 04:21:06 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 24, 2021, 05:18:57 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2021, 06:12:10 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 24, 2021, 07:52:16 PM
Post by: Pat B on March 24, 2021, 07:55:37 PM
My wife gets her 2nd on Friday, mine on the 6th of April, the next Friday.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 24, 2021, 08:10:17 PM
But yes I've heard about the 2nd shot difficulty.
But I'm fine with that.
Post by: Buemaker on March 25, 2021, 05:27:27 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 25, 2021, 05:36:08 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 06:44:43 AM
Been 16 hours since our shots and no reaction yet for the wife and I..
Post by: Pat B on March 25, 2021, 09:10:03 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 09:17:04 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 25, 2021, 09:19:40 AM
Roy hope all you get is a sore arm.
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 09:23:46 AM
Post by: Flem on March 25, 2021, 09:26:11 AM
Post by: Longcruise on March 25, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
Nice riser Bue. Are you sure that is your real shop aint a spec of dust nowhere there. :bigsmyl:
Roy hope all you get is a sore arm.
I gotta get me one of those CGI shops! :)
Post by: Buemaker on March 25, 2021, 10:24:46 AM
Post by: onetone on March 25, 2021, 10:37:43 AM
Post by: Pat B on March 25, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 25, 2021, 11:12:42 AM
Post by: Longcruise on March 25, 2021, 12:58:36 PM
Post by: Pat B on March 25, 2021, 01:07:43 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 02:20:56 PM
Before my shoulder surgery, they injected my shoulder, that didn't feel real good...
Post by: kennym on March 25, 2021, 08:07:11 PM
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Post by: Longcruise on March 25, 2021, 08:34:50 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 25, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
Got a string on her. Its to heavy for me so its going to one of my short armed friends. The draw cycle feels nice, the tips are still forward a bit at 28"s.
(https://i.imgur.com/6AYZhAl.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 25, 2021, 09:38:24 PM
Travis that's a good looking bow.
Post by: kennym on March 26, 2021, 07:32:33 AM
Post by: Flem on March 26, 2021, 10:41:34 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 26, 2021, 10:55:18 AM
Where's the 28" draw pic??
If the tips are forward at full draw are you gonna cut it back a half inch or so or tweak the limb in some way??
Post by: 4 point on March 26, 2021, 11:56:41 AM
Post by: 4 point on March 26, 2021, 08:15:12 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ac4Pq87.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on March 26, 2021, 08:56:31 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 26, 2021, 09:11:14 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 27, 2021, 08:52:02 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on March 28, 2021, 04:53:02 AM
Just sayen.
Post by: kennym on March 28, 2021, 07:32:42 AM
Post by: Flem on March 28, 2021, 09:58:59 AM
Post by: B-JS on March 28, 2021, 12:16:58 PM
Came out exactly 100@28".
One step to the customers Goal of 125-150 in the Future.
Post by: Robertfishes on March 28, 2021, 03:24:41 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 28, 2021, 04:52:42 PM
Put buffalo horn overlays on a bow.
Post by: Longcruise on March 28, 2021, 06:42:50 PM
Couple days ago I tripped on a chair leg in the dining room and hit the wall. Made a pretty good hole. The wife is antsy cause we are throwing a birthday party on Thursday and it has to be fixed NOW. :)
Wouldn't be so bad except when I sawed out around the break I sawed through the wiring of a wall outlet on the other side of the wall. :o I didn't realize it until the wife complained that the toaster wouldn't work. So that's what I worked at today and not done yet.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who breaks things every time I fix them!!?? :bigsmyl:
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Post by: onetone on March 28, 2021, 07:37:13 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 28, 2021, 08:23:54 PM
Last week I replaced a 50 year old toilet that had new 3/4" flooring laid around it 6 years ago....
What a trip.
Post by: Longcruise on March 28, 2021, 09:31:22 PM
Brakes are dragging on the car. :(
Post by: 4 point on March 28, 2021, 10:56:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/j8ddwNq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yHzGhaI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0YpvVqY.jpg)
Post by: Flem on March 28, 2021, 11:13:40 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 28, 2021, 11:26:08 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 29, 2021, 04:07:13 AM
What did the weight end up at?
Post by: Mad Max on March 29, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
Post by: 4 point on March 29, 2021, 08:17:04 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 29, 2021, 08:25:06 AM
Post by: Shredd on March 29, 2021, 10:06:46 AM
Post by: Longcruise on March 29, 2021, 10:19:38 AM
Post by: 4 point on March 29, 2021, 10:51:23 AM
The wedges are walnut
Post by: skeaterbait on March 29, 2021, 12:42:01 PM
Post by: onetone on March 29, 2021, 04:35:20 PM
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Post by: 4 point on March 29, 2021, 08:23:27 PM
Post by: onetone on March 30, 2021, 12:03:06 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 30, 2021, 01:31:04 PM
Here is an alternate to Osage that prolly wont change color. Hard maple dyed and stable with Aztec gold. and the weight is there to.
(https://i.imgur.com/0ZrxXXY.jpg)
Post by: Buemaker on March 30, 2021, 02:13:11 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 30, 2021, 02:47:33 PM
Had our second shot last Wednesday...
Post by: Pat B on March 30, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 30, 2021, 06:45:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Tn1zdNx.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 30, 2021, 08:28:00 PM
Have several half logs in the barn...
Post by: Pat B on March 30, 2021, 10:20:54 PM
And, in a few years it darkens and looks very similar to aged osage. It makes a good selfbow for sure.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 31, 2021, 08:07:56 AM
And some veneers.
Post by: Flem on March 31, 2021, 09:39:04 AM
I have had dried Mulberries, they were delicious.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 31, 2021, 05:26:41 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on April 01, 2021, 05:28:07 AM
Now, was it mulberry or locust? Seemed a little bit light weight for locust too, and it failed the black light test. Black locust glows like it's radioactive under a black light, mulberry doesn't at all, and there was none of that, so I'm confident it's mulberry.
No, mulberry isn't 'bad', but it isn't osage either. I sure wish it was osage. It was about half a pickup load of boards about 10' long. Oh well, live and learn.
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 01, 2021, 07:01:08 AM
LOL
Post by: Flem on April 01, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
The Mulberry berries I have had were white, interlopers!
Post by: Pat B on April 06, 2021, 09:32:41 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 06, 2021, 09:48:58 AM
Post by: Flem on April 06, 2021, 09:52:15 AM
Post by: Pat B on April 06, 2021, 12:29:52 PM
Post by: bigbob2 on April 07, 2021, 01:58:24 AM
Post by: Pat B on April 07, 2021, 09:04:13 AM
Post by: zhangkeyang on April 07, 2021, 11:13:01 AM
Post by: Longcruise on April 07, 2021, 01:36:41 PM
Post by: mmattockx on April 07, 2021, 05:19:36 PM
this is my first attempt to make an oak bow, It has a set of 1-inch, and the draw weight is a bit lower than my expectation.
No surprise, it is tough to do a board bow without at least a bit of set. Looks like a nice bend and handle details. How wide is it?
Mark
Post by: zhangkeyang on April 08, 2021, 02:09:15 AM
Post by: Flem on April 08, 2021, 08:47:34 AM
Post by: skeaterbait on April 08, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: mmattockx on April 08, 2021, 09:56:13 AM
2" wide at the fade start to 1/2" at the tips, with 8" rigid handle :)
That's very reasonable for oak. How long is it and what was your target draw weight?
Mark
Post by: zhangkeyang on April 08, 2021, 12:45:35 PM
To Flem: I got those oak from building materials store,it should be North America white oak which is just from the place I you are I guess? We have some laws forbidding cutting trees. :bigsmyl:
To Mark: I want to make it up to 50 pounds but it only got 40
Post by: mmattockx on April 08, 2021, 03:10:48 PM
To Mark: I want to make it up to 50 pounds but it only got 40
50lb is asking quite a bit of oak, depending on how dense it is.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 08, 2021, 05:47:54 PM
I've been mentoring him in hunting and stickbows for 7 years, he's 21 now.
Made me so proud of him, brought tears to my eyes.
Post by: Pat B on April 08, 2021, 10:36:19 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 09, 2021, 03:52:29 AM
Post by: Pat B on April 09, 2021, 07:18:36 AM
Post by: kennym on April 09, 2021, 07:46:15 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 09, 2021, 07:48:22 AM
Post by: 4 point on April 09, 2021, 08:37:56 AM
Post by: Flem on April 09, 2021, 09:16:55 AM
I hope he has a long, rewarding career and nothing but smooth sailing!
Post by: Shredd on April 09, 2021, 09:55:23 AM
Post by: Stagmitis on April 09, 2021, 01:44:48 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 09, 2021, 03:13:59 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 10, 2021, 10:30:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/gox1WLt.jpg)
Post by: Buemaker on April 11, 2021, 09:41:17 AM
Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 10:05:39 AM
Rotate Roy :goldtooth:
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 11, 2021, 10:11:26 AM
:campfire:
Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 10:42:09 AM
Post by: Flem on April 11, 2021, 10:48:24 AM
Thats sacrilegious :o
Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 11:19:17 AM
I’m using kings Ford charcoal
Peach and Cherry
Post by: Buemaker on April 11, 2021, 11:49:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 11, 2021, 12:17:30 PM
Post by: Flem on April 11, 2021, 01:07:36 PM
I have not had the pleasure of using Peach, mostly Apricot, Cherry and Apple is what I can get here.
Post by: zhangkeyang on April 11, 2021, 01:24:37 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 11, 2021, 01:47:51 PM
Post by: Buemaker on April 11, 2021, 03:09:51 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 11, 2021, 06:06:39 PM
I did move a bow or two tho.
Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
I made that Rotisserie back in 2005 for my Dad :bigsmyl:
4 Point ---Need to see that stripe block :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on April 11, 2021, 08:03:20 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 11, 2021, 08:46:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JHb16q2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QCGFMAj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WOHbpQC.jpg)
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 11, 2021, 08:49:05 PM
Dave.
Post by: Mad Max on April 11, 2021, 10:13:47 PM
Post by: Shredd on April 11, 2021, 11:22:20 PM
Post by: mmattockx on April 11, 2021, 11:56:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/BSCOcLx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nf7S2yP.jpg)
Mark
Post by: Flem on April 12, 2021, 10:24:20 AM
Post by: mmattockx on April 12, 2021, 11:36:14 AM
Which motor does your Jetta have? Some of those Jetta's were pretty zippy.
Both are the 2.0L naturally aspirated version. Nice torque and fun to drive, but not super powerhouses. They do well with a turbo, though. Current plan is to check out the spare and rebuild whatever is needed then use it to get the car running. The motor in the car has a big cam in it and a chipped ECU, so I will put that head on the spare to add some snappiness but it still won't be a monster.
Long term I will rebuild the damaged motor and decide if I want a lot more power from a turbo or not.
Mark
Post by: Buemaker on April 13, 2021, 08:04:36 AM
Post by: Mad Max on April 13, 2021, 08:14:53 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 13, 2021, 08:46:46 AM
Post by: Stagmitis on April 13, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
Post by: Buemaker on April 14, 2021, 08:12:20 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 14, 2021, 08:29:33 AM
Post by: B-JS on April 14, 2021, 02:30:42 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 14, 2021, 02:33:55 PM
Post by: Buemaker on April 14, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
Post by: B-JS on April 14, 2021, 04:17:11 PM
I wanted a Design, that leaves me all possibilities.
With the flat Belly, i can build everything from a very slim Longbow grip Up to a very bulky and heavy pistol grip, with one Form.
Post by: Flem on April 14, 2021, 07:24:01 PM
Post by: onetone on April 14, 2021, 11:14:36 PM
Post by: zhangkeyang on April 15, 2021, 04:59:12 AM
Post by: Flem on April 15, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 15, 2021, 12:39:49 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on April 15, 2021, 02:39:18 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 15, 2021, 03:20:07 PM
Looking good Bue.
I been busy this morning. One limb out and one in.
Then a whole LB glued up also. And a riser partly shaped and some quarter sawen Sycamore veneers.
(https://i.imgur.com/svjiMQe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pswT4up.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PYFIuwa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aVPdBoE.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 15, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 15, 2021, 04:48:50 PM
Looking good stic---Osage in a can :thumbsup: :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 15, 2021, 05:34:31 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 15, 2021, 05:39:19 PM
Post by: kennym on April 15, 2021, 08:23:27 PM
And the bow shop...
Somethin gonna give next week tho, turkey season starts Monday... :goldtooth:
Post by: Bob D on April 16, 2021, 10:13:41 AM
Going for my 2nd Moderna shot this morning :scared:. A little trepidation, everybody I have talked to feels crappy afterwards. Hate to loose a day or two this time of year. Oh well
Flem, How do you feel today?
The wife and I get our 2nd Moderna on the 27th. and we are trying to get an idea of what to expect. The RN who gave the shot warned that the 2nd would be “worse than the first”. Keep us posted if you would.
The first shot only made me feel like I got a blunt hit to the shoulder for a few days. I couldn’t shoot for a bit but that was about all.
Post by: Flem on April 16, 2021, 10:35:22 AM
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Joking aside, I feel fine so far except I cant flap my left wing. Damn nurse hit me with a 10lb needle!
Post by: Bob D on April 16, 2021, 10:48:20 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 16, 2021, 03:18:34 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on April 16, 2021, 05:38:33 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 12:03:07 PM
A good 12 bow backings in those 3 poles.
Need to split one side of them and wedge it open an inch or so to expedite the drying for next fall..
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Post by: Flem on April 17, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Same species?
Post by: Shredd on April 17, 2021, 12:58:52 PM
Flem... Probably just the base of the boo... The nodes or culms get further apart as you go up the stalk...
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 01:01:17 PM
It does have more nodes though, I'm not real crazy about that one but they are 8 feet long and on the far end the nodes are further apart. If you compare the far ends of all 3 poles, you can see the node spacing is greater at the other end.
They will shrink a tad after drying.
I have found Madake to be very good for bows, I have never had a backing failure since using it, they are 4 inches in diameter.
Post by: Shredd on April 17, 2021, 01:24:51 PM
You may want to take a piece of rebar and break out a hole in each one of the sections for drying... But I am not sure how it will effect the process as far as splitting and such... I do know that the thicker the wall is that it is more prone to splitting and that certain sections of boo have more tensile strength than others... I believe the mid sections are the strongest... The two on the left should be the most resilient..
My research was some years back so don't hold me to all this...
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 01:33:12 PM
I played that game of driving a pipe up through the center, it was a bitch getting it back out.
I'll just drive a machete up the entire length to open up a crack then wedge it open a little.
It will stay in the shop for a couple months then when it's warmer I'll set it outside for a bit during the day.
You are not supposed to dry boo too fast.
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 17, 2021, 02:05:16 PM
Post by: Shredd on April 17, 2021, 02:08:19 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 02:11:28 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 17, 2021, 03:03:30 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)You’re such a redneck. Make sure that you get it on video. 😁
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 03:09:34 PM
Post by: B-JS on April 17, 2021, 04:08:37 PM
And about to finish an other one.
A buddy wants a 45# longbow with 180+fps @ 28" and 10gpp.
Should be no rocket science.
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 17, 2021, 04:11:23 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 17, 2021, 05:07:39 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)You’re such a redneck. Make sure that you get it on video. 😁
Dave.
WATCH OUT, most of us are rednecks, I want to see it too :laughing:
Nice B-JS
Post by: Bvas on April 17, 2021, 09:45:48 PM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)Let Chris do the shootin. Better chance she’ll put it down the middle.
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 04:01:31 AM
And she loves to shoot, especially the AR15.
Post by: kennym on April 18, 2021, 08:08:23 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 08:17:17 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 18, 2021, 09:12:58 AM
The patch I cut out of had trunks with wide nodes, unfortunately the land sold and the patch was bulldozed.
This is what I cut from the patch;
Post by: Flem on April 18, 2021, 09:17:26 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 09:38:02 AM
Post by: Pat B on April 18, 2021, 10:24:07 AM
After the 60 day period of growth, the bamboo cane never grows in height or diameter again. Bamboo doesn't experience secondary growth like trees or most flora. It will put on new foliage every year, and a cane typically lives for 10 years. Bamboo is a member of the grass family.
Post by: Shredd on April 18, 2021, 10:48:22 AM
Thats nice looking Bamboo! How long does it take to get that big?
It grows fast... Up to a foot a day... But I believe you got to let it season a year or two before you harvest...
Roy and Eric... Do you fire or heat treat the boo before you use it??
Post by: Mad Max on April 18, 2021, 11:03:40 AM
Post by: Flem on April 18, 2021, 11:35:58 AM
Post by: Pat B on April 18, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
Post by: mmattockx on April 18, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
Might just take the 44 mag and shoot a round up through her:)
Better living through (more) modern technology! I also want to see video of this. :bigsmyl:
If Roy won't do it I can give it a try if someone will send me the bamboo. :cheesy:
Thats amazing it grows that big in sixty days!! Hell, we don't get tomatoes in sixty days around here.
It's crazy how fast it grows, you can just about sit and watch it get taller. My climate is like yours, nothing grows fast around here.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 18, 2021, 01:45:58 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 18, 2021, 01:55:21 PM
Mark, have you watched James fire burn boo bellies? I was at his house outside Hickory, NC a few years ago when he was burning some. You would have thought that all that would be left after his rosebud propane torch burning there would be nothing left but ashes. Over the years James has made many, many boo back/belly bows using this technique with great success.
I have not Pat
Yes he's made plenty, he told me he had 8,000 bows logged( all kinds of bows), and wanted to get to 10,000 before
he would stop.
We have Kudzu vine in the south planted to stop erosion on ditches, it can grow 1 foot a day in HOT Humid weather
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Post by: Bob D on April 18, 2021, 04:05:44 PM
I envy your heat in January and feel sorry for you in July.
Is that white EPDM you have for a roof?
Post by: 4 point on April 18, 2021, 09:57:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/GEWCLiJ.jpg)
Post by: Shredd on April 18, 2021, 11:31:20 PM
Those look nice 4point...
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 19, 2021, 06:08:57 AM
Very nice Travis..
Post by: Buemaker on April 19, 2021, 09:35:29 AM
Post by: Flem on April 19, 2021, 09:47:05 AM
That Cedar is really beautiful :thumbsup:
This is what I woke up tp this morning;
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Post by: 4 point on April 19, 2021, 09:55:25 AM
Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 11:04:40 AM
EDPM is probably the most common synthetic rubber used. Take all the EDPM off your car and you ain't going nowhere.
That Cedar is really beautiful :thumbsup:
This is what I woke up tp this morning;
That's on the way to my house right now.
Post by: Shredd on April 19, 2021, 11:37:04 AM
Post by: mmattockx on April 19, 2021, 11:44:31 AM
This is what I woke up tp this morning
That rolled through here saturday night, but it looks like it got angrier on the way down. We had about 4" once it was all done with.
Mark
Post by: Flem on April 19, 2021, 02:40:53 PM
Bue, the let side is spalted hackberry I got from Kenny and the right side is buckthorn I cut from my yard. The camera doesn’t show the beauty of the buckthorn
No wonder that Juniper looked so exotic, it's Buckthorn :knothead:
Wonder if that grows around here..........
Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 19, 2021, 03:00:51 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on April 19, 2021, 03:17:24 PM
Yes Flem it grows here-Think ill go cut some :)
Post by: Flem on April 19, 2021, 03:22:36 PM
Face it, Flem, you and I live in a hardwood desert!.
I'm happy when I see a big shrub!
Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 03:32:52 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on April 19, 2021, 03:39:32 PM
Post by: Longcruise on April 19, 2021, 04:10:17 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 19, 2021, 04:41:01 PM
Flem. It does look like cedar in the pic. I would bet you have it over there. It’s kind of a scrub tree. There ain’t much grows for trees in my area
Look for it in heavy timber (thickets) where it grows taller.
I have some in full sun with limbs to the ground and bushy, and some in thickets that grow tall and less limbs on the lower trunk. :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 19, 2021, 10:32:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/FMe38Sg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aVPdBoE.jpg)
Post by: Buemaker on April 20, 2021, 03:05:55 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 08:01:32 AM
Post by: kennym on April 20, 2021, 08:11:38 AM
Springtime here too allegedly ... :biglaugh:
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Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 08:24:24 AM
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Post by: Eric Krewson on April 20, 2021, 09:04:31 AM
Post by: Flem on April 20, 2021, 09:12:55 AM
Post by: Bob D on April 20, 2021, 09:17:50 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 20, 2021, 10:55:52 AM
When I started making bows I only did it when wanted to, I was in it for the work which I loved, not the money. I had the money angle covered from 30 years of working in a power plant, I worked between 500 and 900 hours of overtime a year and was able to retire at 52 at the same money I made while working, I took saving for retirement VERY seriously.
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 12:13:37 PM
Then more and more folks wanted a bow.
Wasn't long till making bows was not as much fun.
It became work instead of a hobby.
End conversation....
Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 12:34:02 PM
Then do it again if you want to. :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on April 20, 2021, 12:46:48 PM
Now I see how you can hit that deer, his antlers are in front of his eyes :laughing:
They are kinda droopy anyway, then snow on em sags em more... :laughing:
Not gonna shoot im in the eye anyways. :biglaugh:
Post by: skeaterbait on April 20, 2021, 01:00:56 PM
After I was making bows for a few years, folks started asking me to make them a bow.
Then more and more folks wanted a bow.
Wasn't long till making bows was not as much fun.
It became work instead of a hobby.
End conversation....
I used to work part time at an archery shop, the guy I worked with, and used to shoot with years before, always said "Never make your hobby your jobby"
Post by: Longcruise on April 20, 2021, 01:17:46 PM
Make them when you want to, then sale what you have.
Then do it again if you want to. :thumbsup:
That's what I do.
Post by: Mad Max on April 20, 2021, 01:58:14 PM
Post by: Shredd on April 20, 2021, 06:19:06 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 20, 2021, 07:55:58 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/yzA8E3J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mjC7ahG.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 20, 2021, 08:02:30 PM
Love the made in USA...
Just love it.....
Post by: 4 point on April 20, 2021, 09:28:19 PM
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Post by: zhangkeyang on April 21, 2021, 08:06:32 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 21, 2021, 08:07:36 AM
Very nice, Keyang..
Post by: Bowjunkie on April 21, 2021, 08:10:50 AM
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Post by: mmattockx on April 21, 2021, 09:50:58 AM
Again I made a new oak bow and this time fortunately it has 50 pounds :archer:
That looks really good. I like the tiller on this more than the first one, it is bending really nicely.
Mark
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Post by: Buemaker on April 24, 2021, 01:03:03 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 24, 2021, 01:06:52 PM
I don't want it drying too fast at first.
Yes this Madake is awesome bamboo.....
Post by: Mad Max on April 24, 2021, 03:36:59 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 24, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lYiurg9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hjvhqm6.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on April 24, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 25, 2021, 03:32:54 PM
Couldn't find camera.
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 25, 2021, 04:16:36 PM
Dave.
Post by: kennym on April 25, 2021, 05:32:08 PM
Post by: Flem on April 25, 2021, 06:33:12 PM
I built a heat box this morning out of a set of bi-fold doors I removed from the house a while back. I’ll use it for curing the finish and gluing on overlays.
Great idea! Nice repurpose too :thumbsup:
If they are hollow ;), you could drill some holes and fill it with spray foam.
Post by: Longcruise on April 25, 2021, 07:31:42 PM
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Post by: Flem on April 26, 2021, 10:12:31 AM
Could you do a French twist or is the thread too thick?
Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 11:29:27 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on April 26, 2021, 12:25:08 PM
How about a French braid :tongue:
Don't know how to do that either! :)
Post by: williwaw on April 26, 2021, 12:57:14 PM
Made a string out of linen. Very quiet.
Nice, I have a similar one for a ELB. Keeping it a bit damp when shooting makes it hold up better (of so I have read)
Post by: Buemaker on April 26, 2021, 03:36:23 PM
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Post by: kennym on April 26, 2021, 06:20:54 PM
Post by: Shredd on April 26, 2021, 08:20:33 PM
"In beginning, short on arrow by losing... In end, short on arrow by breaking"...
Post by: Flem on April 27, 2021, 10:42:28 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 27, 2021, 06:37:21 PM
It can hold up to 27 bows. Plenty of room to grow. 😁
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on April 27, 2021, 07:51:43 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 27, 2021, 07:52:33 PM
Dave.
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 27, 2021, 07:53:50 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 28, 2021, 05:40:08 AM
Very nice..
Post by: Buemaker on April 28, 2021, 06:50:22 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on April 28, 2021, 04:34:08 PM
Dave.
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 28, 2021, 06:04:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wEwC5zl.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 28, 2021, 08:19:54 PM
Post by: kennym on April 28, 2021, 09:33:45 PM
Hmmm, didn't blow up so I set it back and finally redid it. Haven't ground the handle back yet.
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 29, 2021, 07:40:15 AM
So can't really say for sure. I really think just the glass is plenty strong with no carbon. So on the next one I think a colored thread is what I will use as an indicator so not to shape too deep in the throat area.
Post by: Pat B on April 29, 2021, 10:52:29 AM
Before...
(https://i.imgur.com/nR9UaFj.jpg)
...and after...
(https://i.imgur.com/khhyBYY.jpg)
Post by: Longcruise on April 29, 2021, 11:51:41 AM
Post by: Pat B on April 29, 2021, 12:01:02 PM
Post by: kennym on April 29, 2021, 12:50:57 PM
A few decent pieces mixed in. Have a pile 2.25" thick that has been stickered for 3 years in barn, says it is 7% but I'm not sure of that.
Post by: OldRawhide42 on April 29, 2021, 02:16:40 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 29, 2021, 02:50:23 PM
Kenny good find...
Tillered out a BBO today, easiest bow I've tillered yet cause the arrow shelf is 1.25" above bow center instead of the 2" I used to do.
Don't worry stickypops, your bow was 1.25" above center too, but this bow was tillered for 3 under so it was even easier than the split finger your bow is.
https://youtu.be/lXf3d24GsYA
Post by: Pat B on April 29, 2021, 03:58:44 PM
Post by: kennym on April 29, 2021, 06:03:21 PM
What was that song? Get a haircut and get a real job!!! That's what I need!! :laughing:
Post by: kennym on April 29, 2021, 06:05:20 PM
Anybody but BVAS use black locust? I musta had an impulse buy and it got covered up!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 29, 2021, 06:23:14 PM
Post by: Longcruise on April 29, 2021, 06:24:42 PM
kinda like your avatar? :thumbsup:
LMAO. :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 29, 2021, 06:25:54 PM
:biglaugh:
Post by: Longcruise on April 29, 2021, 06:32:34 PM
Never claimed to be good lookin. Neither did my Mom! :tongue:
Post by: Buemaker on April 30, 2021, 03:18:31 AM
Bow looks good Roy.
Post by: Shredd on April 30, 2021, 06:48:11 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 30, 2021, 06:58:58 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 30, 2021, 09:15:51 PM
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Post by: Ken Sorg on May 01, 2021, 06:26:22 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 01, 2021, 07:53:48 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 01, 2021, 08:57:16 PM
Sent a feller some scale wood and he sent me a nice small knife.
And some 700 carbons
Life is good
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Post by: Pat B on May 01, 2021, 09:01:05 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 02, 2021, 05:15:36 AM
Pat that's the only way to get trees down.
Post by: Pat B on May 02, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Post by: Flem on May 02, 2021, 10:51:05 AM
Post by: Pat B on May 02, 2021, 10:57:21 AM
Post by: Flem on May 02, 2021, 11:03:46 AM
Post by: Pat B on May 02, 2021, 11:47:30 AM
Post by: Bob D on May 03, 2021, 04:53:52 PM
A lot of wind this spring has blown down 4 old white spruce. I got 2 of them cleaned up this past week. Today the wife and I got all the limbs run thru the chipper just before it started to rain (again)
One more big tree down out in the pasture and the smaller one in the center of the picture to go. (Unless the wind comes up again). :banghead:
Im 64 and the wife is 62. We are not sure how many more years we will be able to keep up this lumberjack stuff, but we both agree it’s better than being back in the office trying to keep customers happy.
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Post by: Pat B on May 03, 2021, 06:27:10 PM
Post by: kennym on May 03, 2021, 08:50:21 PM
Dumb sparrows want to build in the door track of my back shop room. They never figure it out, they drag crap in there and it falls in the shop but they keep trying... May have to break out the Red Ryder... :biglaugh:
Post by: Bob D on May 04, 2021, 11:03:16 AM
Bob, I'm almost 71 and my wife is 73 so you have plenty of time left. At least you have a tractor and chipper. :thumbsup:
Thanks Pat, Maybe there is hope. Today I’m a bit shaken and stirred from that chipper, but we got two rainy days ahead so I should be all recovered by Friday :thumbsup: Maybe even able to shoot my bow a few times. :archer2:
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 04, 2021, 09:46:50 PM
I ran across a set of red stag burrs I have had for years. Was a trade. I think. anyhow they kinda yellowish looking and need dolled up a bit. What can I use for that. Think they will make good conversation limb bolt burrs.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 05:49:49 AM
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May have to break out the Red Ryder...
You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie:)
Post by: Flem on May 05, 2021, 09:03:36 AM
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 03:58:48 PM
Another minor incident. :banghead:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 04:02:58 PM
Post by: Flem on May 05, 2021, 04:06:22 PM
Looks like you ground away part of your thumb print.
Post by: Buemaker on May 05, 2021, 05:00:55 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 06:15:20 PM
Oh well, another day, another learning experience. :)
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 06:24:25 PM
Now it has a board wedged under the front.
Post by: kennym on May 05, 2021, 07:54:24 PM
I cut lams, worked on a TD LB form , worked on my planter, hunted up parts for it to plant milo for bro ( gotta keep me a place to hunt) And found the corn units for his corn patch .
Sprayed my clover patch with a half dose of gly , buddy says that will kill the grass that’s takin over but not the clover. If it kills it I’ll plant beans on it... :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 08:11:20 PM
Doesn't hurt the clover at all.
Only kills grass but I use another herbicide for broadleaf weeds.
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 05, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
Post by: kennym on May 05, 2021, 08:27:45 PM
I use a herbicide called Arrow on my clover.
Doesn't hurt the clover at all.
Only kills grass but I use another herbicide for broadleaf weeds.
This is cheap and he said it works great. I don't have much for broadleaf weeds in there so figgered I'd try it.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 08:29:36 PM
Post by: kennym on May 05, 2021, 08:46:49 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 08:54:26 PM
I'll hafta give soybeans a shot...
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 09:22:13 PM
Understand that, I had to put on 1000 pounds of lime on this year.
I'll hafta give soybeans a shot...
You guys are such farmers. :)
If I ever get into growing a crop it's going to be wheat. 500 elk can't be wrong!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 06, 2021, 10:20:02 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 07, 2021, 09:28:12 AM
I found out I needed a product called SpeedZone for zoysia, I bought some an may use if if we get the sun to shine for a few days.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 07, 2021, 11:00:23 AM
Post by: Pat B on May 07, 2021, 11:45:37 AM
Post by: Bob D on May 07, 2021, 02:03:23 PM
We used clover to restore our land when we bought it in 1982. It was very depleted as a former hill farm and clover worked like magic.
Post by: Mad Max on May 07, 2021, 03:09:05 PM
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Post by: mmattockx on May 07, 2021, 06:34:48 PM
I plant white clover in my lawn.
I've never found a need to plant it, simply not trying to kill it off has always been sufficient to have plenty of clover around.
Mark
Post by: Shredd on May 09, 2021, 01:44:54 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 09, 2021, 02:13:46 PM
:thumbsup: :archer:
Post by: kennym on May 09, 2021, 03:36:26 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 09, 2021, 04:06:49 PM
Post by: kennym on May 09, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
Had to quit, target is too close to the bluebird house and they felt threatened. I don't know what their problem is, I never miss by ten feet, only four or five... :dunno: :laughing:
Post by: Flem on May 09, 2021, 06:03:33 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on May 09, 2021, 07:04:34 PM
Nice job shredd :notworthy:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 09, 2021, 07:07:49 PM
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:08:54 AM
You have to look through the pile but the good posts are there, I bought this one a couple of days ago, clear straight grain end to end with only one knot that wouldn't affect any normal length shaft up to 32".
You can see the grain in the trap.
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 09:26:26 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:43:03 AM
I made three for my neighbor yesterday and sent them a picture of one weeks catch in the trap the bees like the best. I have 6 traps on my deck, all with bees in them but they go in the trap above the stairs more than any other. I have caught over 50 bees so far, I will catch hundreds before the bee season is over. I used to have a dozen of so drilling on my deck at any given time, so far this year I have had one.
The curious bee goes in the hole but can only see light from the bottle because of the 45 degree entrance hole angle. The bee "goes to the light" and spends the rest of its life walking in circles trying to find a way out through the clear glass.
I just found out Spectracide foaming carpenter bee spray in their hole kills the offending bee in short order.
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:49:52 AM
To make the traps I drill a 1" hole up the center of the 6" long piece of post then drill 1/2" holes at a 45 degree angle to meet the center hole. I use an arch punch to cut the the center out of what ever metal lid you have for the trap jar and nail it over the center hole with small brads.
I nail a sawtooth picture hanger on one side to hang the trap on a small nail. Trap placemen on a covered deck is the best up under the eves facing out
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 10, 2021, 09:58:20 AM
Post by: Bob D on May 10, 2021, 11:50:25 AM
And although Im no lawyer, I would think potential arrow wood diverted into bee traps is bow related. :dunno:
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 12:31:59 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Kenny sends me scraps from his broken bow riser projects and I'll use those to make the traps.
I'll release the bees one at a time and shoot them out of the air with a BBO bow and cane arrows:)
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 12:47:24 PM
Post by: Shredd on May 10, 2021, 01:21:23 PM
Post by: Flem on May 10, 2021, 06:28:37 PM
Post by: Pat B on May 10, 2021, 07:42:47 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2021, 07:56:35 PM
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2021, 08:14:56 PM
Post by: Mad Max on May 10, 2021, 08:47:18 PM
Post by: Mad Max on May 10, 2021, 08:53:48 PM
And shot some today too.
No pictures of the arrows in the target Roy, I almost missed the barn :laughing:
Trying to learn to shoot wrong eye dominate.
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Post by: Shredd on May 10, 2021, 10:14:41 PM
Good to hear that you are shootin again, Mark...
Post by: Mad Max on May 10, 2021, 11:14:25 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 03:47:17 AM
Are you switching from right to left handed looks like?
I'm left eye dominant and shoot right handed.
I've found with both eyes open it really doesn't affect me much, that I know of. LOL
I shoot 3 under and use the tip of the arrow as a front sight so I do close my left eye.
But sometimes I'll keep both eyes open and still use the tip of the arrow and it doesn't seem to matter.
Just have fun Mark.
Post by: Mad Max on May 11, 2021, 07:41:13 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 07:46:42 AM
Post by: B-JS on May 11, 2021, 07:54:55 AM
And about to Finish the one with the right weight.
Post by: Longcruise on May 11, 2021, 10:28:32 AM
Post by: Flem on May 11, 2021, 12:20:36 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 12:28:29 PM
Keep it up Flem and Flem is gonna change to Ellie May:)
Post by: B-JS on May 11, 2021, 12:33:36 PM
No, it's a 23# bow for a Pinkywinky girly.
Post by: Longcruise on May 11, 2021, 02:01:18 PM
Real man shoot pink! :biglaugh:
No, it's a 23# bow for a Pinkywinky girly.
Soooo, it is for Roy then.
Post by: Flem on May 11, 2021, 03:13:48 PM
:nono: :laughing:
Keep it up Flem and Flem is gonna change to Ellie May:)
I'm gonna need a new wardrobe to go with my new moniker :scared:
Cross dressing camo anyone?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2021, 04:37:11 PM
:laughing: :wavey:
Post by: kennym on May 11, 2021, 05:04:46 PM
Real man shoot pink! :biglaugh:
No, it's a 23# bow for a Pinkywinky girly.
Soooo, it is for Roy then.
Yup , I'm bettin it is for Pinkywinky !! :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 03:56:49 AM
:wavey:
Post by: Shredd on May 12, 2021, 07:03:50 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 07:51:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 08:40:19 AM
:laughing:
Post by: Flem on May 12, 2021, 11:33:38 AM
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 12:16:17 PM
That gonna be your tree shooten bow?
:laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 12:38:15 PM
Flemmy May two barrel slingshot :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 01:05:09 PM
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Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 01:37:39 PM
Roy; :laughing:Yep, aiming for some trees.
Did you and Kenny stop by cause you smelled Liver and Onions cooking?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 03:28:59 PM
What do you all think?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 03:56:09 PM
Ellie May look like a Ninja in that pic :laughing:
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
That piece in the saw pic looks like quartersawen sycamore. The last pic looks kinda like cherry. That the same piece?
I had so many pieces of walnut that I didn’t really look close, just grabbed it. But I think you are correct, probably Cherry. Never made a riser from it, I’m hoping it’s okay or strong enough!
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
Post by: Flem on May 12, 2021, 08:37:52 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 12, 2021, 09:34:02 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 09:45:46 PM
Well I found the Walnut I was planning to use, right where the Cherry was!
My concern is if it is strong enough? I had plenty of phenolic but didn’t use any planning a light riser. Be hard to change now with inserts and pins installed. The bow is about 42# at my draw. Guess time will tell. :knothead:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 12, 2021, 09:59:11 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 10:15:51 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 10:20:52 PM
Where you at Kenny M, aren’t you even going to laugh at me? :banghead:
Post by: Longcruise on May 12, 2021, 10:49:34 PM
That don't look like Walnut. Cant you intdentify wood by smell? Close your eyes next time you are cutting some on the tablesaw, it will heighten your olfactory senses.
And trim your fingernails. :)
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 12, 2021, 11:00:31 PM
Yep. I missed that! :laughing: :laughing:That don't look like Walnut. Cant you intdentify wood by smell? Close your eyes next time you are cutting some on the tablesaw, it will heighten your olfactory senses.
And trim your fingernails. :)
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 04:46:40 AM
Post by: B-JS on May 13, 2021, 06:58:03 AM
Did not shoot it a lot in the past months, because i was testing the 60" Hybrids all the time.
Still a great Shooter.
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Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 11:31:39 AM
And it's a cross dresser :scared:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 03:43:32 PM
:laughing:
Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 06:38:11 PM
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Have some Bee keeper friends and they give me one every year. These are the dregs, bottom of the pot and apparently not very desirable. But it is exactly what I want because it has all the good stuff in it that is filtered out of the pretty salable wax. Specifically Propolis. If you don't know what Propolis is, check this out; https://www.beeculture.com/propolis/
I melt and mix it with mineral oil for string wax, Neatsfoot oil for footwear and a variety of oils for chapped skin.
I currently have many more pounds of this than I will use in my lifetime and thought I would offer some up to whoever might want some. There is on caveat though, I am on a fixed income these days and too cheap to spring for the shipping. So if you are willing to send a 6X2.5" piece of green paper with a picture of Abe on it, I will send you a 6-8oz chunk of dark, dirty beeswax. Just know that you can probably get it much cheaper locally. But unless you know somebody, you might have a hard time finding this wonderful, nasty unfiltered stuff. If thats you, send me a PM and I will hook you up.
Post by: Mad Max on May 13, 2021, 06:51:16 PM
Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 07:30:06 PM
Post by: Mad Max on May 13, 2021, 08:33:20 PM
Post by: Flem on May 13, 2021, 08:37:01 PM
Max, do you have Bee's?
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 13, 2021, 08:53:33 PM
:laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 13, 2021, 09:20:35 PM
Anyhow I got two curve limbs glued today the riser drilled insert in and cut to shape and grip overlays one a one piece that's going to be a two piece.
No pics tho.
Post by: Mad Max on May 13, 2021, 09:44:12 PM
I think Beekeepers are glad to have someone to take the dregs. Probably kills them to waste it.
Max, do you have Bee's?
No, I took Penicillin to get rid of it :)
Post by: Shredd on May 14, 2021, 12:47:40 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 14, 2021, 08:41:43 AM
If you do this be forewarned, CONUS only, nothing to Canada. I donated some books to the auction, the winners were in Canada, the books brought $30, seems like shipping to Canada was $45 out of my pocket, no media rate up there.
Post by: Bowjunkie on May 14, 2021, 10:57:10 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2021, 11:25:42 AM
:wavey: :laughing:
Post by: Longcruise on May 14, 2021, 12:11:11 PM
Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)
:wavey: :laughing:
Would probably make his cheeks puffier. :)
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2021, 12:17:12 PM
Who knows where else he may apply it:)
Post by: Buemaker on May 14, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
Post by: onetone on May 14, 2021, 03:50:46 PM
Post by: Flem on May 14, 2021, 04:48:38 PM
Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)
:wavey: :laughing:
I though that was what Preparation H was for?
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 14, 2021, 05:52:41 PM
Try some on your tongue. It’s good for bad breath... 😉🤔😁Flem you could mix it with Aloe Vera and put it on your face to remove wrinkles:)
:wavey: :laughing:
I though that was what Preparation H was for?
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2021, 06:28:50 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 15, 2021, 06:52:06 AM
Instead he used pharmaceutical grade mineral oil, the kind you take as a laxative. Worked for me so far.
I just spit coffee on my keyboard, Thanks..
:laughing:
Post by: kennym on May 15, 2021, 08:16:10 AM
Calm down Roy !! :wavey:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 15, 2021, 08:34:44 AM
Post by: kennym on May 15, 2021, 09:40:37 AM
Post by: Bowjunkie on May 15, 2021, 11:41:37 AM
Yes, that's the mineral oil I used. Pharmaceutical grade. 1 to 4 ratio of beeswax to oil, melt in double boiler, stir occasionally as it cools into a paste. I haven't had it go rancid, and with the wax added it fills pores.
My wife has a bakery and I made some french rolling pins for her with Hophornbeam. Not fancy looking, but tough. Her and her workers love em.
That cutting board is black walnut, hard curly maple, padauk, and the dark strips are some Brazilian rosewood I've had laying around here for over 20 years.
Good change of pace from making bows and better than burning good wood I wouldn't have used otherwise. Wife wants me to sell them in her bakery. That's all I need. Lol
Post by: Flem on May 15, 2021, 04:22:21 PM
"Yes, that's the mineral oil I used. Pharmaceutical grade. 1 to 4 ratio of beeswax to oil, melt in double boiler, stir occasionally as it cools into a paste. I haven't had it go rancid, and with the wax added it fills pores."
Thats the recipe and ratio I use for string wax. :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 15, 2021, 06:31:49 PM
. Seems to work really well.
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Post by: kennym on May 15, 2021, 08:38:38 PM
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Post by: Shredd on May 16, 2021, 12:39:48 AM
Post by: Buemaker on May 16, 2021, 04:08:33 AM
Post by: B-JS on May 16, 2021, 06:26:11 AM
The 23# is finished with the rough clearcoat.
The 33# is finished with my smooth clearcoat.
One for mum and one for the daughter.
Post by: onetone on May 16, 2021, 12:21:36 PM
B-JS - Fine pair pair of bows.
Post by: Buemaker on May 16, 2021, 05:51:31 PM
Post by: Flem on May 16, 2021, 08:46:05 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on May 16, 2021, 09:28:23 PM
But had to try it on the curve.
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 16, 2021, 09:34:34 PM
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Post by: Shredd on May 16, 2021, 11:30:38 PM
Yeah Rich I got the idea from someone. You maybe can't remember. It's easier to use on longbow.
But had to try it on the curve.
Yeah... It was back in the day... I remember you saying something like, cool idea, gotta try that... But I like your idea of marking wit a hacksaw vs I use a chainsaw file brazed to some flat stock s.s. ...
Cool how we came together on the same idea and each learned something new and different... :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 17, 2021, 05:53:47 AM
Maybe a picture from a little farther back?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 17, 2021, 07:12:16 AM
But I will backup and take another.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 17, 2021, 07:56:19 AM
Ya that did look to be 2 inches at least:)
Post by: kennym on May 17, 2021, 08:56:59 AM
That may or may not work for ya... :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 17, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
Post by: ztontonz on May 18, 2021, 03:30:48 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 18, 2021, 04:03:02 PM
I am tempted to mention the bare shafts but you would never get past that!
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 18, 2021, 04:05:24 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 18, 2021, 05:22:36 PM
Plus looks like you have other issues...
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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 18, 2021, 05:26:24 PM
I have my halo on today but wait till tomorrow.“I know what your problem is. You’re not getting enough fibre...”
Plus looks like you have other issues...
Dave.
Post by: Buemaker on May 18, 2021, 06:29:52 PM
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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 12:49:58 PM
It's also still good! I opened the hardener and after the initial stank evaporated in a minute, it had the normal Corn Nuts smell.
I'm using it in a non stress application, so even if it is compromised, which I doubt it is, it will not matter.
Don't throw the stuff away because its supposed to have gone "bad"
Like Mr.T said; "Rules are for Fools"
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 19, 2021, 04:22:15 PM
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I could barely get a finger print in it
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Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 07:06:44 PM
Already difficult to flex
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Post by: kennym on May 19, 2021, 09:07:41 PM
Didn't Smooth-on recently modify their shelf life statement?
They told me 2 years now. That’s prob unopened but prob has a safety factor for them also.
What I use is never white like Flem tho
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 19, 2021, 09:12:05 PM
A little hard maple some black dye Cactus juice some vacuum and curing heat.
And you can turn plain looking wood to look like something. And here is a further back shot of the big burrs.
(https://i.imgur.com/3sXmH7C.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/smXN3eX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YdYpLd4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qGVcaxP.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on May 19, 2021, 09:31:06 PM
Post by: Mad Max on May 19, 2021, 09:35:53 PM
I've made 1 BBI R/D from roy's setup.
I want to try a Recurve with Boo back and Ipe belly with maybe Boo flooring core with the riser built in.
(https://i.imgur.com/0yJUeJt.jpg)
Post by: Flem on May 19, 2021, 10:01:51 PM
After cooking @125deg for 3hrs and after cooling down to 76deg, I could not break this disc without more leverage than my thumbs and forefingers provide. It's about 60% of a 2.5"dia disc, maximum thickness of .070".
I would use this "old" glue to build a bow without hesitation
Post by: Longcruise on May 19, 2021, 10:24:19 PM
I got fired up @ the Classic looking at some of James Parkers bows.
I've made 1 BBI R/D from roy's setup.
I want to try a Recurve with Boo back and Ipe belly with maybe Boo flooring core with the riser built in.
(https://i.imgur.com/0yJUeJt.jpg)
Elegant. :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 04:05:45 AM
Thanks Flem makes me feel better about my glue.
I use ea 40 mostly for tip overlays but sometimes to glue a riser on.
Mike they seem a little big to me but maybe not to others.
Sharp looking bow though.
Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 08:10:06 AM
Flem that should be plenty strong...
Mark, that's gonna be cool!
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 20, 2021, 08:37:17 AM
ROY big burrs may make good conversation.
Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 08:41:51 AM
Post by: Flem on May 20, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
Orange one will pull that green one backwards:)
Looks nice, Flem.
I like the landscape around ya.
Ya have more pictures of your homestead?
Post by: Flem on May 20, 2021, 11:02:52 AM
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Garden with a pair of hungry visitors
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 11:07:11 AM
I Elk hunted once in Helena Montana.
Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 11:12:09 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 03:31:51 PM
See how well that orange tractor mows a clover field?
Ah JD would get stuck on a dandelion stock:)
LOL XO
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Post by: kennym on May 20, 2021, 04:51:13 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 20, 2021, 08:01:45 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 20, 2021, 09:11:00 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 20, 2021, 10:18:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ImFdfFW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YgyCOAQ.jpg)
Post by: onetone on May 21, 2021, 12:30:25 AM
Post by: Flem on May 21, 2021, 07:41:37 AM
Post by: Pat B on May 21, 2021, 11:16:17 AM
Post by: kennym on May 21, 2021, 11:44:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 21, 2021, 11:59:48 AM
Post by: B-JS on May 21, 2021, 01:15:04 PM
Ordered a 600+# Scale at Amazon.
Aaaaand it's "expensive" cheap China crap. :dunno:
Does Not start.
Can't measure my current 60" Hybrid 111#+ Project exactly.
What do you Guys use for 100#+?
Post by: OldRawhide42 on May 21, 2021, 03:31:06 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 21, 2021, 07:10:45 PM
I also listed a few goodies on the St. Judes auction site. 😁
Dave.
Post by: Shredd on May 21, 2021, 08:07:42 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 21, 2021, 09:45:36 PM
Post by: Pat B on May 21, 2021, 09:47:29 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 22, 2021, 04:12:26 AM
I posted 2 different threads yesterday for one dozen Sitka spruce shafts from True Shafts in British Columbia.
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 09:23:19 AM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 09:24:34 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 22, 2021, 09:29:15 AM
Post by: Flem on May 22, 2021, 09:31:59 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 22, 2021, 03:18:15 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 03:46:50 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 22, 2021, 06:32:35 PM
Post by: kennym on May 22, 2021, 06:56:23 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 22, 2021, 07:58:21 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 22, 2021, 10:20:07 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 24, 2021, 06:32:49 PM
How you all like my Spongebob table? :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 24, 2021, 08:01:36 PM
:laughing:
Post by: Flem on May 24, 2021, 10:29:36 PM
What's the hinge/jig looking thingy?
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 24, 2021, 11:32:31 PM
That little hingy thingy holds feathers whilst I whittle and sand them.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 07:30:55 AM
I use the straight Bitzenburger clamp to sand the feathers.
But your red neck thingy works too:)
Like this thing Flem..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsl0LJvjij8
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 25, 2021, 08:15:15 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 09:06:30 AM
Post by: Flem on May 25, 2021, 09:15:22 AM
I was thinking C-Daddy might flip his over for a pic of the working side of his thingy
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 25, 2021, 09:20:26 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 09:30:50 AM
Evil, lol
Post by: Flem on May 25, 2021, 10:41:14 AM
Post by: Carpdaddy on May 25, 2021, 11:12:35 AM
Just couple old cabinet scrapers and door hinge. Little tape to help grip.
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 25, 2021, 12:18:28 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 25, 2021, 04:39:36 PM
Dave.
Post by: Buemaker on May 25, 2021, 06:03:35 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 25, 2021, 06:09:01 PM
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on May 25, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
I bet that stave will make a snappy bow, Bue.
Post by: Mad Max on May 25, 2021, 06:34:20 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2021, 06:47:04 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on May 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PM
Post by: Buemaker on May 26, 2021, 05:58:17 PM
Post by: Pat B on May 26, 2021, 08:59:17 PM
Post by: Mad Max on May 26, 2021, 09:53:20 PM
get the sinew wet :thumbsup:
Then we can watch Pat's and yours come together :)
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 27, 2021, 09:46:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rack4yg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eLFeHBo.jpg)
Post by: Shredd on May 27, 2021, 11:06:25 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 28, 2021, 04:13:23 AM
Post by: Flem on May 28, 2021, 08:14:03 AM
Like the color combination Mike.
Ditto that :thumbsup: What is the yellow wood? I like bright and/ or shiny things :goldtooth:
Guess that makes me a Pack Rat :o
Post by: B-JS on May 28, 2021, 02:50:03 PM
Did result in slightly to high drawweight. :banghead:
70#@28" and thats a 50" bow :biglaugh:
Next days will Show, how much i can shave Off.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 28, 2021, 03:12:04 PM
Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2021, 04:47:08 PM
Post by: Pat B on May 28, 2021, 04:56:09 PM
Post by: B-JS on May 28, 2021, 05:12:28 PM
Need to build the 2.0 Version that i have one the drawing Board.
Got two Taper Strips in this... They still Not Open Like i want.
Bow and hooks need to be longer.
Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2021, 05:20:27 PM
2/3"? :thumbsup:
Post by: B-JS on May 28, 2021, 05:31:41 PM
The lever has to be longer.
Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2021, 05:38:21 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 28, 2021, 07:23:14 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 28, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
The yellow is Osage and some yellow dye in the wrap on the longbow and it came apart. With some KY. coffeebean veneers.
(https://i.imgur.com/P8fFbIa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qYdWxVG.jpg)
Post by: wood carver 2 on May 28, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
When it finally let go, there was no indication of what held it together.
Dave.
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 28, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
Post by: mmattockx on May 29, 2021, 12:09:18 AM
Did result in slightly to high drawweight. :banghead:
70#@28" and thats a 50" bow :biglaugh:
Send it my way, I'll figure out how to draw a 70lb bow... :goldtooth:
Looks great but that is stout.
Damn....
+1
Mark
Post by: Flem on May 29, 2021, 07:56:09 AM
The yellow is Osage and some yellow dye in the wrap on the longbow and it came apart. With some KY. coffeebean veneers."
That Coffee Bean wood is beautiful :thumbsup: Never seen that before.
I have to admit when I read that post, I was pretty sure something to do with a hooker, came apart with KY
:biglaugh:
Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 08:12:23 AM
I would not have had that much deflex coming off the fades ;)
So you have 2 tapers and it's still bending too much at the fades.
The lams need to be thicker coming out of the fades so they don't bend so much and help the hooks open up.
Let's say the tapers were .006 or .009 per inch, they would be thicker at the fades and thinner at the tips.
Or a long power wedge. Keep working at it :thumbsup:
Stic has some T/D with LONG butt wedges to help get the hooks opened up. :thumbsup:
50" NTN
(https://i.imgur.com/RaJlckf.jpg)
STIFF hooks with a long TIP wedge will push on mid limb to keep it from bending so much but your hooks want to open up if you get your design working for you.
No deflex at all on this bow
(https://i.imgur.com/34ZGgQn.jpg)
Post by: B-JS on May 29, 2021, 09:05:58 AM
The 2.0 is planned different.
54"ish way longer hooks and Close to Zero deflex.
This one is like it is.
The bow below is a static, isnt it?
Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 09:09:12 AM
Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 09:32:58 AM
Post by: B-JS on May 29, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
0,8mm Glass
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
0,8mm Glass
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
Riser is 30cm
Total length ttt is 127cm.
45mm wide.
IT was obious, IT will BE to strong, but i wantet to Test the Double Taper.
Have built 20ish of this 38mm wide with Just one Taper before in the range of 30-65#.
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 29, 2021, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:29:26 AM
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:36:28 AM
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:46:11 AM
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 29, 2021, 11:45:44 AM
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 11:49:00 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 29, 2021, 11:58:13 AM
Post by: Flem on May 29, 2021, 11:59:57 AM
Those joints are real tight, was that CNC'd?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 29, 2021, 01:06:16 PM
Post by: kennym on May 29, 2021, 01:55:17 PM
Mike, it is linen , you can see some lines in the sight window...
Post by: B-JS on May 29, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
Scraped a bit more of and reduced the brace from 7 to 6¼.
Hooks open up quite ok now.
Yesterday, it Hit the Wall at 27" and gained 5# to 28.
Now it's a bit under 3#.
https://youtu.be/6lsJIqK-BV8
Post by: Mad Max on May 29, 2021, 02:17:37 PM
It's (sorry for metric)
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
0,8mm Glass
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
2,4mm Ash tapered to 0,8mm
0,8mm Glass
0,5mm 45/45 Carbon
Riser is 30cm
Total length ttt is 127cm.
45mm wide.
IT was obious, IT will BE to strong, but i wantet to Test the Double Taper.
Have built 20ish of this 38mm wide with Just one Taper before in the range of 30-65#.
:thumbsup: Following
Post by: Bvas on May 30, 2021, 03:23:05 PM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 30, 2021, 04:06:24 PM
Post by: onetone on May 30, 2021, 04:29:26 PM
BVAS That is beautiful grain in that billet of walnut. Good find!
Post by: Mad Max on May 30, 2021, 05:16:42 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 30, 2021, 05:54:43 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 30, 2021, 07:14:01 PM
Raining and cold 🥶 an indoor day.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on May 30, 2021, 07:24:17 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 30, 2021, 08:32:53 PM
:thumbsup:
Nice arrows Mike.
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 02, 2021, 07:48:40 PM
I finished the two piece today with leather grip and all. I really dont like doing leather grips. This one turned out pretty decent tho. The secret is about four coats of contact cement. Let them dry. then another coat on the bow and the leather and when that gets tacky apply to bow. Works pretty good on pliable leather.
(https://i.imgur.com/a9B8FqG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NPno5Bh.jpg)
Post by: Longcruise on June 02, 2021, 08:36:56 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on June 02, 2021, 08:57:02 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 03, 2021, 06:48:37 AM
Tanned Deer hide stretches real nice.
I spray the hide with 3M adhesive and put the hide on right away and get it positioned, let it sit for 10 minutes and stitch it up.
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 03, 2021, 08:17:55 AM
So cow hide. Yeah I got deer but wrong color. Think sheep hide is about like deer to.
Post by: Flem on June 03, 2021, 08:29:39 AM
Anybody that does leather wraps should consider burnishing the edges. Really finishes off the job, makes it look professional. Easy to do with a little wax.
Post by: Shredd on June 03, 2021, 09:04:35 AM
How do you burnish ends, Flem? Speaking of wax, weren't you giving some away?? I said was into it if you are still into it...
Post by: Flem on June 03, 2021, 09:14:05 AM
I do still have some raw beeswax to give away to anybody who wants some for the cost of shipping.
Post by: Longcruise on June 03, 2021, 09:49:46 AM
Post by: Shredd on June 03, 2021, 01:33:00 PM
I do still have some raw beeswax to give away to anybody who wants some for the cost of shipping.
Thanks Flem... I did not think about shipping and I know 2 bee keepers... I might just ask them for some wax... :thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on June 03, 2021, 01:55:08 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 05, 2021, 10:13:14 AM
Post by: B-JS on June 05, 2021, 01:04:39 PM
Up to 28" it's OK.
But above this, IT hits the wall.
But need to build a 45-50# Version with even more Taper to see If IT has real Potential.
Post by: Shredd on June 05, 2021, 01:25:51 PM
Post by: B-JS on June 05, 2021, 01:41:57 PM
Pics Not optimal, but i think IT Shows the Essence.
Post by: Shredd on June 05, 2021, 01:46:16 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 05, 2021, 01:55:33 PM
Post by: B-JS on June 05, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
Last try, i almost Killed my crony and ripped of the fletching of my heavy Arrow.
Need to eat my breakfast cereals to have Enough omph to pull the 65# Clean enough for propper chrony results.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 05:28:40 PM
I spray the back of the leather with 3M spray adhesive, except for the last 3/8" or so where the stitching will be, then lay it on the bow. It never budges. Easier and more neat than the regular contact cement.
For the leather on the arrow shelf and side plate, I use 3M ATG transfer tape. Stays put through all weather but easily removed if ya want. Love that stuff.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 05:45:45 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 05, 2021, 05:51:09 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 06:03:50 PM
Picked up a few bowmaking tools at yard sales and antique stores yesterday. Got the drawknives fixed, cleaned, and just need sharpened now, then they'll be ready to go to work.
Post by: Mad Max on June 05, 2021, 06:34:02 PM
Leather grips... I usually use deer leather and skive the top and bottom edges of the leather on the glue side, so it fades in thickness to almost nothing at the edge. When installed, it appears to roll or fade into the wood.
How do you do it ? I have tried but Not good
Can you show is what tool you use and how to? :pray:
Post by: Flem on June 05, 2021, 07:54:18 PM
Like this
Very nice. Skiving Deer leather is an impressive skill :thumbsup:
I have only done it with a knife and on much heavier cow leather!
There are lots of good videos on leather working, this guy makes good ones.
https://youtu.be/ZKwoGWddOro
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 08:13:05 PM
Lay the leather glue side up, on a hard smooth surface, like a piece of planed hardwood or cabinet grade plywood. I then lay that on my bandsaw table... good working height, shop light, and good access. With deer leather, which is thin, I start 1/8 to 3/16 back from the edge, and with the edge of the blade parallel to the edge of the leather, slice down at an angle in strokes, shaving the leather so that ultimately it looks sort of like the cutting edge of a single bevel broadhead.
It should be done so that if you look directly at the edge of the leather, there is virtually no flat edge left... it's 'sharp'... you've skived it to nothing, like a perfect fadeout.
Trick/tip: if in bringing it to the finest 'fadeout', the edge becomes uneven or has a tiny ragged spot or two, you can usually straighten the edge up with judicious use of a pair of very sharp scissors.
If you still think it'll help, I'll take some pics. No problem.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 08:23:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 05, 2021, 08:28:47 PM
By the way, I also skive the arrow rest and side plate. Takes about a minute... and adds one more tiny touch of refinement. They add up.
When I tried it I got the scalloped edge, I do have some sharp knives and will strop them like you said and see.
I have Pig and deer leather. Thanks
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 05, 2021, 09:11:35 PM
By the way, I also skive the arrow rest and side plate. Takes about a minute... and adds one more tiny touch of refinement. They add up.
When I tried it I got the scalloped edge, I do have some sharp knives and will strop them like you said and see.
I have Pig and deer leather. Thanks
Scalloped edge... hmmm, maybe the knife edge, or trying to get too close too quickly in too small an area, or using too curved a blade? I notice my 'scallops' tend to come when I use too much of the curved portion of the blade. My slices into the leather are as much longitudinal as they are downward. Like thinning a thick area of a hide if you're familiar with that.
Post by: Mad Max on June 05, 2021, 09:51:01 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
And all the parts still work...
:laughing:
Post by: kennym on June 06, 2021, 09:02:22 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 09:09:10 AM
Post by: Flem on June 06, 2021, 09:40:03 AM
And keep those parts to yourself :scared:
Post by: Shredd on June 06, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 06, 2021, 09:53:09 AM
Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 09:56:02 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 10:00:29 AM
I'm creeping up on 74, Bue:)
Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on June 06, 2021, 10:20:24 AM
Dave.
Post by: Shredd on June 06, 2021, 10:22:41 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 10:25:52 AM
Post by: Pat B on June 06, 2021, 10:59:49 AM
Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 12:15:37 PM
Post by: Longcruise on June 06, 2021, 12:45:38 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 06, 2021, 12:59:38 PM
You bout 3 mos. Older :biglaugh:
Dem parts working prolly slower now days tho.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 01:13:07 PM
Post by: Pat B on June 06, 2021, 01:51:20 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 05:24:42 PM
I'd like to get a big enough piece from one of the other trees to make lams for a glass bow, and maybe selfbow billets.
By the way, I've been grafting pieces of these apple trees to semidwarf rootstock and planting them here at my place. Kinda keeping grandpa's orchard alive.
Post by: Buemaker on June 06, 2021, 05:39:43 PM
I once boiled it in water and that made it stable, but took away some of the beautiful color. But to answer your question, I have not used it in a riser, only to make nice knife handles. Polishes like glass.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 05:56:06 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 06, 2021, 05:56:22 PM
I have my eye on a pear tree here in the yard.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 06, 2021, 08:28:21 PM
Post by: Shredd on June 06, 2021, 09:04:31 PM
Post by: Bvas on June 06, 2021, 09:55:51 PM
Just remember to save your scraps for the smoker. Adds excellent flavor to almost all meats :goldtooth:
Post by: bigbob2 on June 07, 2021, 01:44:09 AM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 07, 2021, 05:47:35 AM
You know it Bvas, initially, that was my goal, remove the down tree for mom, and save as much as I could for the smoker. But I started thinking about its use for bows when I saw the color and density of the trunk.
There's part of another apple tree there that I've been eyeing up for a while. It's about 8 or 10" diameter and at least billet length, maybe full length staves. I'll probably cut it soon.
Post by: Flem on June 07, 2021, 07:55:43 AM
I know Jim Kneaves used to make bows with it. Might be a good candidate for stabilization.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 07, 2021, 08:01:46 AM
Jeff, main trunk and or thicker limbs ok?
Post by: Mad Max on June 07, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
something like this.
(https://i.imgur.com/1iE5fNN.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 07, 2021, 08:13:02 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 07, 2021, 08:40:44 AM
That's awesome, Mark..
We use to make a lot of hard wood flooring down here in the south, they would stack it like that, but 4 or 5 high.
For a year I guess, then it was kiln dried and milled into tongue and groove floor.
Now days it's just the top layer on a filler. Many hard wood flooring yards went under
(https://i.imgur.com/iHHn24z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S22Z5aP.jpg)
Post by: mmattockx on June 07, 2021, 09:35:20 AM
Anybody ever use apple wood in a bow riser?
Nope, but my experience mirrors the others here about fruit woods making decent self bows and generally being very dense and hard. I had some pieces off an apple tree from a backyard and made chisel handles out of them. The 3 on the right are apple, the other 3 are cherry:
(https://i.imgur.com/rwWYL67.jpg)
If there is some nice grain in the wood you harvested I would use it for risers with no worries at all. I will also echo the comments about fruit wood checking easily.
Mark
Post by: Longcruise on June 07, 2021, 10:12:33 AM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 07, 2021, 04:03:14 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 07, 2021, 09:25:22 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tG9m4uO.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on June 07, 2021, 10:07:11 PM
Always wanted to see it under clear glass
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 08, 2021, 05:37:49 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 08, 2021, 05:38:38 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 08, 2021, 07:08:04 AM
Mike that will look sharp as heck.
The burl or the boo? :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 08, 2021, 07:25:03 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 08, 2021, 12:23:03 PM
Never give this a lot of thought before. But rainy a damp here. And everything is 12 percent. MC glue or not.
Am thinking put it in the hot box for awhile first.
Post by: Mad Max on June 08, 2021, 01:08:21 PM
It's been raining here 3 day and going to get at least 3 more days :thumbsup:
Post by: 4 point on June 08, 2021, 01:27:58 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 08, 2021, 02:50:15 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 08, 2021, 08:17:16 PM
Seemed pretty tuff tho. Anyhow I buttered it up on top of a thicker lam and used that lam to flip it on to the buttered glass.Just make sure it don't slip around when you glue the other side and smear the glue in one direction.
Post by: 4 point on June 09, 2021, 10:01:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/c4Uh7hx.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on June 09, 2021, 10:13:56 PM
Post by: 4 point on June 09, 2021, 10:46:11 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 10, 2021, 04:33:58 AM
If a node falls within 2 inches of the tip, it gets cut off anyway when I cut the back of the boo off to put my tip overlays on.
Most times I'll have an equal number of nodes on each limb. All depends on the piece of boo and it's node spacing. If you look at your boo, the nodes on one end will be a little closer together than the other end, not much though, maybe an inch different.
Most times I center the nodes an equal distance from the fades and see how things go, it's always different..
Post by: OldRawhide42 on June 10, 2021, 08:15:08 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 08:44:26 AM
I try for equal spacing of the nodes in the limbs, so I'll move the center node up or down or the spacing between 2 nodes up or down within the riser area.
If a node falls within 2 inches of the tip, it gets cut off anyway when I cut the back of the boo off to put my tip overlays on.
Most times I'll have an equal number of nodes on each limb. All depends on the piece of boo and it's node spacing. If you look at your boo, the nodes on one end will be a little closer together than the other end, not much though, maybe an inch different.
Most times I center the nodes an equal distance from the fades and see how things go, it's always different..
When you get a uncooperative boo slat have you ever cut and splice it back together in the handle area Roy?
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 10, 2021, 08:55:09 AM
Post by: kennym on June 10, 2021, 08:59:36 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 09:00:45 AM
Working on moving over to the dark side with a little coaching from Roy. Where is the best place to position the nodes? If I put one in the center I end up with nodes about 6 inches from the tips. If I center between nodes they end up on my fades.
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What kind of belly and core 4point and how long?
I've mad 3, they shoot fast too :thumbsup:
Post by: 4 point on June 10, 2021, 09:20:27 AM
Max, I’m trying a walnut core and a mulberry belly just because I had some laying around. I’m gonna get some Osage and use a maple core in the next one. This one is a learning tool. It’s gonna be 65 inches nock to nock.
Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 10:15:27 AM
Post by: 4 point on June 10, 2021, 11:04:16 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 10, 2021, 11:27:26 AM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 10, 2021, 12:37:39 PM
Post by: Longcruise on June 10, 2021, 01:59:34 PM
Isn't it odd how bow lengths are always even?
Some of mine aren't, but it wasn't intentional! 😀
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 06:29:49 AM
I can relate to that, Mike:)
Post by: Shredd on June 11, 2021, 06:46:02 AM
Post by: Longcruise on June 11, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
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I like the bow to come out the poundage it's supposed to be and not make it a little thicker or thinner to make weight....
I'm the same way except I fit the string to the bow.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 09:40:37 AM
You want the bow to be the bow, yet you shorten the bow to fit a particular string length?
So are you making the bow shorter to attain the weight you want?
Post by: Flem on June 11, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Isn't it odd how bow lengths are always even?
You think thats odd, I use Phi (golden ratio) to determine as many measurements as possible :campfire:
Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 09:54:36 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 10:20:49 AM
Some fancy word for bow length?
:laughing:
Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2021, 11:42:50 AM
Post by: Flem on June 11, 2021, 11:54:45 AM
Use a bowyers knot on your string, make your bow and adjust the string to fit. Easy peezy! ;):thumbsup:
Even if you don't use a timber hitch as a primary string knot, it's definitely the way to go for a backup string out in the woods.
Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
AMO stands for the Archery Manufacturers Organization. It created a set of standards for things such as defining bow length. When people give a length of a bow in inches they almost always mean AMO bow length. AMO bow length is the length of the string plus 3 inches. So a 66 inch AMO bow is supposed to take a 63 inch string. But, some people sell strings by "AMO" length rather than actual length, so your AMO 66 inch bow takes an AMO 66 inch string (actual length 63 inches). And, not all bows take a string exactly 3 inches less than the printed bow length. And some bows, especially English Longbows, are measured at their un-strung length.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 11, 2021, 12:59:53 PM
Never had to worry about amo.
I use a tape measure and a string jig.
And the bowyers knot works too.
Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 01:05:11 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on June 11, 2021, 02:46:12 PM
Dave.
Post by: Buemaker on June 11, 2021, 04:12:02 PM
Post by: Longcruise on June 11, 2021, 04:25:17 PM
I just keep making strings until one fits... 😜🤔
Dave.
Been there, done that. :)
Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2021, 04:48:29 PM
Post by: Buemaker on June 11, 2021, 06:24:21 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 11, 2021, 06:31:49 PM
Post by: Pat B on June 11, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
Post by: Buemaker on June 12, 2021, 11:11:03 AM
Post by: Shredd on June 12, 2021, 03:31:44 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 12, 2021, 03:41:39 PM
I cut grass and weed whacked.
Post by: Buemaker on June 12, 2021, 05:54:19 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 12, 2021, 06:50:21 PM
Post by: Longcruise on June 12, 2021, 07:10:54 PM
One of my dad's quotes from when I was a kid: "A very strange bird is the pelican, it's beak holds more than it's bellycan"
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 12, 2021, 09:37:41 PM
Post by: Shredd on June 12, 2021, 11:26:35 PM
Post by: onetone on June 13, 2021, 05:05:10 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 13, 2021, 07:13:33 AM
Pelicans in all 5, Bald Eagles too
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Post by: Buemaker on June 13, 2021, 07:34:39 AM
Post by: Longcruise on June 13, 2021, 10:40:28 AM
These white pelicans are pretty common in Colorado. They are larger than the brown coastal pelicans. The journals of Lewis & Clark note that one of the hunters killed a pelican on the Missouri River. They ate it. :)
Post by: Pat B on June 13, 2021, 11:49:05 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 14, 2021, 07:51:11 AM
https://youtu.be/ghdSKTq_lVs
Post by: Mad Max on June 14, 2021, 07:53:54 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 14, 2021, 07:55:31 AM
Post by: Longcruise on June 14, 2021, 10:52:36 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 15, 2021, 09:03:55 AM
Things won't be the same without him being next door.
But I'm proud and happy for him.
Post by: onetone on June 15, 2021, 09:19:43 AM
Do you know where he’ll be for boot camp?
Post by: Pat B on June 15, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Post by: kennym on June 15, 2021, 09:52:17 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 15, 2021, 10:06:05 AM
Thank him for serving! :thumbsup:
YES :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
Post by: Buemaker on June 15, 2021, 10:20:10 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 15, 2021, 12:31:46 PM
Thanks guys.
Post by: Longcruise on June 15, 2021, 01:14:58 PM
Post by: Pat B on June 15, 2021, 01:29:06 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on June 15, 2021, 03:15:06 PM
So, I was able to mail the St. Jude game calls early.
Dave.
Post by: flyonline on June 16, 2021, 05:06:01 AM
Been looking at a couple of saplings at work with a view to trying my first sapling bow, what with 2 weeks holidays coming up I feel a bit of 'non-essential pruning' coming on, so this should be just the ticket to try it out :laughing:
Actually have been eying a few thickets of various tree species around the traps, so this might be the time to make a trip with a saw, hatchet and do a bit of roadside thinning and get them rough shaped before getting them in the hot box, aka gas burner for our hydronic heater.
Steve
Post by: Mad Max on June 16, 2021, 07:11:46 AM
I've been eyeing one myself :tongue:
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 16, 2021, 08:56:57 AM
I went out to actually try to make a bow, cut my big belt sander on and was sanding an osage stave down with a 36 grit belt when I realized I never put the bag back on my dust collector. Talk about a mess, my dust collector is in the adjacent room, I had to clean layers of microscopic dust off every thing that room for hours. I wore a cartridge respirator but still had a dust overload.
I am deathly allergic to wood dust, even though I had a 3M cartridge respirator on some of the microscopic dust got through. I have ben hacking and coughing for two days.
I am attempting to fix my friends bow by replacing the overlay that turned loose.
Here is the original fix, the string slipped out of one nock and split the limb, I removed the cracked wood and glued on a very long overlay. I repaired the bow in 2015, it has shot a lot of arrow since.
I gave the bow to a friend to shoot in the IBO worlds, his draw length is longer than mine and the patch turned loose, I am trying to fix the bow so he can use it.
Here is the initial repair;
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 16, 2021, 09:00:07 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 16, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
I found a piece of osage scrap that is hard as a brick to use for the new overlay, I bent the piece of scrap to give me some reflex but it pulled out on glue up. I will heat correct after I work the patch down to the bow dimensions, I used Unibond for glue.
When I ground off the old overlay I found a a glue joint failure, one side was starved, too much clamp pressure.
The new repair (hopefully);
Post by: mmattockx on June 16, 2021, 09:36:26 AM
Mark
Post by: Shredd on June 16, 2021, 09:55:09 AM
Wood dust incident... Sorry for you Bro, but that is too damn funny... Bet their were a few nasty words used... I am living out the whole scenario in my head... :laughing: I'd be pissed.... :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on June 16, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
"4 C-Clamp 6200 PSI Clamping Pressure"
It don't need much pressure :thumbsup:
How tight do you do yours Roy ? you also have fibers in your glue?
Post by: kennym on June 16, 2021, 06:15:04 PM
A 4” cordless grinder with a cutoff wheel isn’t the best tool for the job .
It cuts a little to the left if you push it speed wise . But on flat grain Osage , .015” wander ain’t bad pushin it right thru . If you give it more time to cut it did fine . Good enough I left the blade on there.
I don’t think I was squared up good with the blade quite enough .
Will find a dremel grinding wheel and make a stand for my drill if I can ...
Post by: Longcruise on June 16, 2021, 08:43:46 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 16, 2021, 08:59:48 PM
Hey, Kenny, did you ever try repairing a broken one? I see stuff on Utube of people soldering broken blades.
It can be tig welded, but may cost more than a new one.
Kenny are you going to sharpen blades or make bow stuff ?:tongue:
Post by: Mad Max on June 16, 2021, 09:05:56 PM
going for 66" NTN
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Post by: kennym on June 16, 2021, 09:54:57 PM
Hey, Kenny, did you ever try repairing a broken one? I see stuff on Utube of people soldering broken blades.
It can be tig welded, but may cost more than a new one.
Kenny are you going to sharpen blades or make bow stuff ?:tongue:
LOL , it was just tryin something while glue cured. :saywhat:
I'd lots rather make bow stuff, but it was a bit slow today in the shop :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on June 16, 2021, 10:55:13 PM
My whole 30 years metal work My Band saw had a but welder on it, I bought 100' roles and cut and weld :thumbsup:
Never sharpened :tongue:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 17, 2021, 06:45:56 AM
No fibers.
Kenny ya ever try holding a sanding block on the bandsaw blade and run it backwards by hand?
Post by: kennym on June 17, 2021, 07:25:45 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 17, 2021, 07:40:55 AM
Mark, I just snug the clamps down, making them too tight causes starved glue joints and could cup the edges of the boo up. Doesn't take a lot of pressure to clamp two flat surfaces together..
No fibers.
Kenny ya ever try holding a sanding block on the bandsaw blade and run it backwards by hand?
Make sure all the dust is cleaned out of the bans saw or you will look like Wile Coyote blown up :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 17, 2021, 07:48:44 AM
Kenny sorta does look like Wile:)
Post by: Longcruise on June 17, 2021, 10:06:55 AM
Mark, I just snug the clamps down, making them too tight causes starved glue joints and could cup the edges of the boo up. Doesn't take a lot of pressure to clamp two flat surfaces together..
No fibers.
Kenny ya ever try holding a sanding block on the bandsaw blade and run it backwards by hand?
Hmmmm..., what grit?
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 17, 2021, 11:28:32 AM
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Post by: Pat B on June 17, 2021, 12:31:27 PM
Post by: kennym on June 17, 2021, 12:34:39 PM
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 17, 2021, 06:58:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 17, 2021, 07:35:13 PM
Post by: Shredd on June 17, 2021, 09:28:08 PM
Post by: zhangkeyang on June 19, 2021, 01:36:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 19, 2021, 05:38:11 AM
Post by: Mad Max on June 19, 2021, 07:46:48 AM
Post by: kennym on June 19, 2021, 09:44:49 AM
Been cleaning house this morn, but yesterday I made a new string for my #1 bow so I can get it shot in before season. Wanted to stay inside yesterday cuz it was 100 degrees . Not ready for that crap!!
Skinny strings suck to get the serving right and look like anything...
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 19, 2021, 10:01:20 AM
Post by: kennym on June 19, 2021, 10:08:55 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 19, 2021, 11:28:05 AM
:wavey: :readit:
Post by: kennym on June 19, 2021, 12:05:20 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 19, 2021, 12:22:07 PM
:wavey: :archer2: :wavey:
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 20, 2021, 06:45:55 AM
Post by: kennym on June 20, 2021, 08:08:52 AM
Bro's bow has a 6 strand D97 on it... :saywhat:
Post by: Mad Max on June 20, 2021, 08:34:36 AM
use this at the nock area to buildup
I do like stic said too--Then I tie on a point above and below the arrow nock
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Post by: kennym on June 20, 2021, 08:41:29 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 20, 2021, 08:49:02 AM
I want the nock a tad snug cause I shoot 3 under.
Post by: Mad Max on June 20, 2021, 08:56:24 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on June 20, 2021, 09:16:50 AM
Post by: kennym on June 20, 2021, 09:41:30 AM
Post by: Pat B on June 20, 2021, 11:59:13 AM
When in a tree stand I don't hang my bow but lay it across my lap with one hand on the bow handle and one on the string ready to go when go times comes. I can do it this way with way less movement when I get ready to shoot.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 20, 2021, 12:26:34 PM
Didn't happen wifout pichers:)
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 20, 2021, 02:09:51 PM
Post by: 4 point on June 20, 2021, 11:47:21 PM
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Post by: bigbob2 on June 21, 2021, 02:27:26 AM
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Post by: kennym on June 21, 2021, 08:03:37 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 21, 2021, 08:41:04 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 21, 2021, 08:46:03 AM
Post by: 4 point on June 21, 2021, 09:21:16 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 21, 2021, 09:41:21 AM
Bob, both were caused by wood that shouldn’t have been used in a bow. I thought I would try them. From now on if I have any doubts it’s not getting used.
Oh I know that feeling:)
Post by: Mad Max on June 21, 2021, 09:47:56 AM
Post by: Pat B on June 21, 2021, 10:26:22 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 21, 2021, 10:32:21 AM
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Post by: Bob D on June 21, 2021, 02:16:50 PM
Post by: Pat B on June 21, 2021, 03:26:39 PM
Both my wife and myself feel closed in in the summer around here. The green curtail has dropped. Come late fall and winter it will all open up again and we won't feel so closed in. I guess we could have worst problems. :thumbsup:
Post by: wood carver 2 on June 21, 2021, 09:09:38 PM
https://youtu.be/jdop5bA3yyY
Dave.
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 21, 2021, 09:54:01 PM
Post by: Longcruise on June 21, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
This trail cam thing is new to me. It's kinda fun 🤪 downside is the distance i have to go with them!
Post by: Mad Max on June 21, 2021, 10:02:58 PM
Here’s an interesting video that I found on you tube
Dave.
I watched that yesterday too, I have some leaf springs :goldtooth:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 22, 2021, 05:14:25 AM
Post by: Longcruise on June 22, 2021, 10:11:35 AM
Mike ya need one of them trail cameras that sends the pictures to your computer as they are taken.
That would be cool, but there is no service there.
Also, they are not legal to use for hunting. I'm not sure where the line is drawn between scouting and actual hunting. 🤔 the people who make the rules probably aren't sure either. :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 22, 2021, 10:20:36 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 22, 2021, 06:49:59 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 22, 2021, 07:53:31 PM
How warm and how cold does it get Bue?
Post by: Shredd on June 22, 2021, 08:49:45 PM
Post by: 4 point on June 22, 2021, 08:56:46 PM
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Post by: Bob D on June 22, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
I don’t mean to be a downer, but what is it like on the 21st of December? :o
Post by: Mad Max on June 22, 2021, 09:38:23 PM
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I think it's bending some.
Is it a glass laminated bow?, pull it to 24"
Post by: 4 point on June 22, 2021, 09:43:35 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 22, 2021, 10:22:19 PM
Got a couple of these 52 in. short curves going right now.
And a laminated jig wedge for the new curve . Takes a lot less wood this way.
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Post by: flyonline on June 22, 2021, 11:10:17 PM
how does that vice hold up to a bit of pulling and pushing e.g. scraping a limb? I'm gathering the bits to make up one exactly like that now as I don't have a bench I can mount a vice on, and want to get into a better position while working :laughing:
Thanks
Steve
Post by: Mad Max on June 22, 2021, 11:25:19 PM
Max it’s a tri lam. It’s boo backed, maple core with a Osage belly
Take a day off and come back fresh, It can be frustrating :thumbsup:
It's almost there ;)
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 23, 2021, 04:53:30 AM
Are you using a tillering gizmo?
Those outer thirds will come around the further ya pull it.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 23, 2021, 05:29:41 AM
I see a potential spot or two, but maybe if I saw it unbraced I'd find that it's actually best the way it is... so I'd rather not say anything, than have you weaken an area that may 'look' strong/stiff but is actually doing its fair share of the work already. Our mind likes to see perfect arcs, matching limbs, etc, but that shouldn't always be the goal. Even in trilams sometimes both limbs don't come off the form with identical perfectly smooth curves or shapes, and if they don't, they shouldn't look identical at brace or while drawn either.
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 23, 2021, 06:49:04 AM
A better base would be an old big truck brake drum. Bigger footprint and heavier.
Post by: 4 point on June 23, 2021, 08:43:33 AM
Bowjunkie, I see some spots too. I’ll post a unbraced pic next time. The right limb is the upper limb and it had a stiff spot mid limb that I’ve been fighting
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 23, 2021, 09:02:24 AM
I made a 64" tip to tip BBO for Fujimo and he has a 31.5" draw.
I pulled it to 32" on the tree while I held my breath:)
He's still shooting it.
The next one I made him, cause he wanted another one, was 66" tip to tip.
A wooden bow has to bend evenly without any hinges.
This is him and the 66" tip to tip.
Post by: Shredd on June 23, 2021, 10:39:55 AM
Here is something to think about while removing stock... I don't know about a wood bow but in a glass bow .015" equals to about 5#... So sometimes I think about limbs in poundage when shaping them... If you take off .015" in the last third of the limbs and you took off too much you basically just put 40# tips on a 45# limb... Just another way of looking at it and visualizing it... Those 40# tips are not gonna act the same and work in harmony with the rest of the limb to give you the best performance...
https://www.amazon.com/Saker-Adjustable-Precisely-Duplicator-Woodworking/dp/B083FBRJPM/ref=asc_df_B083FBRJPM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416868252671&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17431999649724267369&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011821&hvtargid=pla-900349336484&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=90730998661&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416868252671&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17431999649724267369&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011821&hvtargid=pla-900349336484
Post by: Buemaker on June 23, 2021, 06:25:54 PM
Post by: Longcruise on June 23, 2021, 07:09:43 PM
Post by: Pat B on June 23, 2021, 10:59:01 PM
Post by: 4 point on June 23, 2021, 11:43:01 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on June 24, 2021, 03:10:54 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 24, 2021, 08:49:59 AM
First gizmo and the later upgrade of an adjustable pencil holder and a more useful shape. Soft wood is a must for knocking the nut in the hole, walnut and maple are OK, hickory and osage not so much, the wood will split;
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 24, 2021, 08:54:15 AM
Fancy gizmo, Travis:)
Glad ya got the bow to 30"
Post by: 4 point on June 24, 2021, 09:00:52 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 24, 2021, 01:49:16 PM
Dog was the lucky recipient of a good kick in the front of its chest a split second later.
Didn't bother me after that.
3rd time that SOB has bit me.
Told my nephew one more time and he may need to get a shovel.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 24, 2021, 02:28:41 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 24, 2021, 02:51:55 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 24, 2021, 03:00:36 PM
:laughing: :biglaugh: :laughing: :dunno: You had it coming I'm sure.
X Infinity
Post by: Longcruise on June 24, 2021, 03:56:11 PM
Post by: kennym on June 24, 2021, 04:26:38 PM
The dog lick his rear? :laughing:
Post by: kennym on June 24, 2021, 04:27:35 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 24, 2021, 04:47:31 PM
Today I'm stripping and seasoning my favorite cast iron skillet. Started with a lye bath for a few days scrubbing each day, a vinegar bath today, a little more scrubbing, and then it was bare iron. Now warming in the oven getting ready for the first coat of grapeseed oil.
Post by: Longcruise on June 24, 2021, 06:07:32 PM
Nope. I've been bit by a variety of critters, too many now that I think about it, but never more than once by any one of them. Either I learned my lesson, or they did.
Today I'm stripping and seasoning my favorite cast iron skillet. Started with a lye bath for a few days scrubbing each day, a vinegar bath today, a little more scrubbing, and then it was bare iron. Now warming in the oven getting ready for the first coat of grapeseed oil.
I might be doing this all wrong, but if I want to re do mine I put it in the oven on the clean cycle. Removes all the seasoning down to the bare metal.
Grapeseed oil. Gotta look into that.
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 24, 2021, 07:57:31 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 24, 2021, 08:36:13 PM
I might be doing this all wrong, but if I want to re do mine I put it in the oven on the clean cycle. Removes all the seasoning down to the bare met
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Can't do that on my oven , no vent hood
Post by: Longcruise on June 24, 2021, 08:58:41 PM
Post by: flyonline on June 24, 2021, 10:02:34 PM
The vise works well for what I do.
A better base would be an old big truck brake drum. Bigger footprint and heavier.
:thumbsup:
Thanks! I've got a larger than standard wheel here that weighs a ton, so should work out good :notworthy:
Post by: Mad Max on June 24, 2021, 10:45:41 PM
I have a vent hood but it's not needed to run a clean cycle.
I tried to season a Iron skillet and it ran me out of the cabin.
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 25, 2021, 04:37:27 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 25, 2021, 08:17:43 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 25, 2021, 08:45:36 AM
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 25, 2021, 09:24:14 AM
I get on an iron kick sometimes and cook a lot with them for a while. I have several Dutch ovens too. The skillet I'm working on now is an old Wagner #10.
Post by: Pat B on June 25, 2021, 12:38:31 PM
When cooking with non-stick cookware get the pan HOT first then add the oil, butter or whatever. Hot pan, cold oil. This will help it be non-stick. I learned this while cooking in restaurants.
Post by: kennym on June 25, 2021, 04:41:44 PM
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Post by: Longcruise on June 25, 2021, 05:01:59 PM
Post by: kennym on June 25, 2021, 05:39:05 PM
And... I've never built a static. :dunno:
Post by: Mad Max on June 25, 2021, 06:29:36 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 25, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
Post by: Shredd on June 25, 2021, 07:06:18 PM
Roy... How's that dog doing?? Figure he be dead by now... :laughing:
Post by: Longcruise on June 25, 2021, 08:30:23 PM
Do It, Kenny..!! Do It...!!
Roy... How's that dog doing?? Figure he be dead by now... :laughing:
:laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 26, 2021, 04:02:25 AM
Nephew has MS and been in a wheelchair for 8 years. He takes the dog for a walk every day and she trots right in front of his electric wheelchair as they go out the road. Those walks with her is the highlight of his day.
Post by: Longcruise on June 26, 2021, 10:55:30 AM
Post by: Shredd on June 26, 2021, 12:59:09 PM
Glad the dog is ok... Probably only got a sour stomach... :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 26, 2021, 01:00:16 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 26, 2021, 07:18:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/zNWOovL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mOiL6Ar.jpg)
Post by: Bowjunkie on June 26, 2021, 08:06:39 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 26, 2021, 08:50:50 PM
I have about a dozen Iron skillets, One is a Oval Dutch oven about 16" long.
I've been working a little on everything
Dog chew horn
(https://i.imgur.com/eeyP25v.jpg)
Hoop ear rings or nose ring
(https://i.imgur.com/BzFOIf9.jpg)
The selfbow caul 64"--68"
(https://i.imgur.com/oS0CQ5s.jpg)
I'm over my head on tillering this Stave off this caul , but I'm going to give it a try
(https://i.imgur.com/iQ1R5FN.jpg)
2" natural reflex
(https://i.imgur.com/X5CvWgD.jpg)
The last overlay to cover the 2 fiberglass dowel pins.
Then sand the whole bow and clear coat gloss, sand and polish.
(https://i.imgur.com/81vLAzi.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on June 27, 2021, 08:40:07 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 27, 2021, 08:55:36 PM
But gotta say it's an improvement:)
:laughing:
Post by: kennym on June 27, 2021, 09:19:37 PM
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 28, 2021, 09:50:57 AM
I even made a few rookie mistakes from being out of action for so long.
Post by: kennym on June 28, 2021, 09:52:42 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 28, 2021, 11:08:31 AM
Post by: Pat B on June 28, 2021, 12:56:29 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 29, 2021, 12:36:38 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 29, 2021, 04:55:08 PM
Yeah the nose ring just does something for you :bigsmyl: ain't figured out what yet but something
Thanks stic, I think :saywhat:
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 30, 2021, 05:33:15 PM
Anybody got a clue what this veneer is. I am thinking maybe spalted walnut.
(https://i.imgur.com/HuKCOaV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PQjIEe4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mOiL6Ar.jpg)
Post by: kennym on June 30, 2021, 08:05:19 PM
I did some things last couple days which I may reveal if it all works out properly... :goldtooth: :archer2:
Post by: Mad Max on June 30, 2021, 08:21:37 PM
Post by: kennym on June 30, 2021, 08:38:08 PM
Post by: Bvas on June 30, 2021, 08:51:19 PM
Getting ready to glue up wifey’s bow and started working on a riser for a TD for myself. Figured I better get on it if I’m gonna hunt with it this year.
Felt good to make some dust!!!!
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Post by: Mad Max on June 30, 2021, 09:12:03 PM
IT HASN'T WORKED OUT YET... :biglaugh:
DON'T SPEAK UNTIL YOUR READY :laughing:
Post by: kennym on June 30, 2021, 09:30:03 PM
Post by: Mad Max on June 30, 2021, 09:41:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Js7zdAE.jpg)
I had a little limb twist I missed
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Post by: Roy from Pa on July 01, 2021, 04:53:39 AM
Mark that's sweet.
Kennedy, oh well.. LOL
Post by: kennym on July 01, 2021, 06:56:57 AM
There:)
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 01, 2021, 06:58:35 AM
I mean like Roy here everyday :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: kennym on July 01, 2021, 07:04:20 AM
Good un Stic
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 01, 2021, 07:28:03 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 01, 2021, 09:46:15 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 01, 2021, 10:58:32 AM
Post by: Pat B on July 01, 2021, 11:19:42 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 01, 2021, 11:32:33 AM
Post by: Shredd on July 01, 2021, 11:35:35 AM
Ok Rody here ...
There:)
Hell Yeah... How narrow you making those limbs??
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 01, 2021, 12:54:37 PM
Just put 50 shots through this BBO.
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Riser with temporary rest on for shooting.
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Belly side of riser.
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Tip
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Post by: Roy from Pa on July 01, 2021, 12:56:59 PM
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Other tip
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Unstrung after shooting.
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Stain drying.
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Post by: kennym on July 01, 2021, 12:59:23 PM
Shreds limbs are 1.5” and only tapered the last 8” from nock groove down to 1/2”
Need to study her a bit on the full draw
Post by: willi on July 01, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
thanks
Post by: Mad Max on July 01, 2021, 02:55:10 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 01, 2021, 08:27:18 PM
Willi there is a picture there of your request, bow sitting in the tiller tree shows the 3 sections of the riser attached to the osage belly lam. Also the picture looking at the belly side of the riser shows the transition into the osage belly lam.
This riser design is new to me. I used 3 pieces glued together first then glued onto the bow. Got even bigger plans for the next riser.
Gonna play glass bow riser here. LOL
Post by: kennym on July 01, 2021, 08:34:16 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 01, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/T01NSEw.jpg)
Post by: willi on July 02, 2021, 12:01:49 AM
This riser design is new to me............ Got even bigger plans for the next riser.
Gonna play glass bow riser here. LOL
The thickness fade looks steeper than some, but maybe the deflex will help?
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 02, 2021, 06:41:24 AM
I did add a tad more deflex to this one.
Post by: Mad Max on July 02, 2021, 05:39:54 PM
60"NTN about 45#@28"
All but the 4" grip bends, only 1-1/8" wide or so.
Still need a little sanding and a grip wrap, and finish.
more pic. later
(https://i.imgur.com/3WEmz1l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IicW7UR.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on July 02, 2021, 05:45:52 PM
Making a hat band
(https://i.imgur.com/N2ZwRAr.jpg)
Post by: kennym on July 02, 2021, 06:20:58 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 02, 2021, 06:26:16 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 02, 2021, 11:41:16 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 03, 2021, 12:59:26 AM
Post by: kennym on July 03, 2021, 12:36:59 PM
Post by: kennym on July 03, 2021, 12:38:11 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 03, 2021, 01:30:46 PM
They are both bent backwards like heck...
Yer hose too short?
Post by: kennym on July 03, 2021, 03:00:15 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 03, 2021, 04:44:06 PM
Nice hooks, Kenny. :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on July 03, 2021, 05:40:14 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 03, 2021, 07:06:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/o4A51aH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Woh61dj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xD972bw.jpg)
heat bend on a caul
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Post by: Mad Max on July 03, 2021, 07:07:02 PM
Not sure it's gonna be all that. Plenty accurate, easy tune, but no quieter or faster than my D/R. Ah well...
You did nt do it right :tongue:
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 03, 2021, 07:47:39 PM
Post by: kennym on July 03, 2021, 08:33:04 PM
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Post by: Shredd on July 04, 2021, 10:08:32 AM
Post by: kennym on July 04, 2021, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 04, 2021, 03:30:32 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 04, 2021, 06:04:56 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 04, 2021, 08:13:24 PM
Thinking it needs a longer riser? :dunno:
X2
Post by: Shredd on July 04, 2021, 10:07:33 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 05, 2021, 09:42:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAGrAhznPyM
Post by: Carpdaddy on July 05, 2021, 10:04:39 PM
Beautiful veneers!
Post by: Mad Max on July 06, 2021, 12:56:23 AM
Very appealing strip tease there Stic! :clapper:
Beautiful veneers!
X2 :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 06, 2021, 05:27:13 AM
Post by: kennym on July 06, 2021, 08:15:21 AM
It had a 55" string on it, I made one specifically for it a quarter inch longer 55.25" for the 58" bow.
I'm kinda busy but may try to grind a glass power lam and apply to belly one of these days.
How much weight will that net, anybody? I'm guessing 1-2 lb ?
Post by: Shredd on July 06, 2021, 10:39:47 AM
Not sure it's gonna be all that. Plenty accurate, easy tune, but no quieter or faster than my D/R. Ah well...
My 2 cents if you want more performance... It looks like she is bending pretty decent although it's kinda hard to tell because of your background... (I wish all you guys would invest in a sheet of plywood and paint it white) :thumbsup: For now I'd forget about the glass power lams and shave a little off the width to get the bend you want and get rid of that dead weight on that last half of the limbs... That would be just like adding a power lam... I think you got too much hook and the string needs to leave the limb a lot sooner... Next bow, I would build a bow just like your r/d but with hooks in it.... (more open hooks in it)
Go with something that works... Your r/d works, just supercharge it with some hooks... As long as your hooks are not too big and your limbs are aligned straight you should not have a problem with torsional stability...
Post by: Mad Max on July 06, 2021, 02:13:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fl8nhqC.jpg)
Rebecca Parker made the Neckless part for my Rattles
(https://i.imgur.com/qJ5cQ1z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4A8ll6P.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on July 06, 2021, 03:51:46 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 06, 2021, 04:46:04 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 06, 2021, 05:05:56 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 06, 2021, 09:32:04 PM
Post by: Shredd on July 07, 2021, 12:46:51 AM
Ok guys... Change of plans...
Just hang up a white bed sheet behind your bow... :thumbsup: :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on July 07, 2021, 10:28:24 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 07, 2021, 10:43:20 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 07, 2021, 11:21:46 PM
I did find out today I have 2 hognose snake skins coming from Texas for "My old Locust Bow". :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on July 07, 2021, 11:31:41 PM
The ones over here are not much to look at.
Post by: kennym on July 08, 2021, 08:01:56 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2021, 08:40:59 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 08, 2021, 08:58:58 AM
Post by: kennym on July 08, 2021, 09:36:57 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 08, 2021, 09:50:46 AM
Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2021, 09:53:54 AM
I'll post pics as soon as they are downloaded on my computer. Sometimes this Chrome Book is slow with pics. :dunno:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2021, 09:56:37 AM
You a farmer now
I think he's a sheep farmer?
Post by: mmattockx on July 08, 2021, 09:57:09 AM
On the farming side of things we lost a chicken to old age a couple nights ago (first time ever to natural causes) and I'm going to finish putting up pig wire tonight. Getting two hogs on Saturday and need to be ready for them.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2021, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: Buemaker on July 08, 2021, 11:42:44 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 08, 2021, 12:10:24 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2021, 12:58:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PyDdnhk.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on July 08, 2021, 01:28:27 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2021, 01:28:30 PM
Post by: Buemaker on July 08, 2021, 01:32:49 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2021, 01:36:16 PM
Bue, a hognose snake is not poisonous and you would be hard pressed to get one to bite you. Better chance you'll get shat upon if you harass them enough.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2021, 01:39:04 PM
Made a string for it also.
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Had a couple friends stop by too.
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Post by: Buemaker on July 08, 2021, 01:48:49 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2021, 02:14:28 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 08, 2021, 02:26:01 PM
Here is one of the snake skins that coming. I was told it is a hognose snake.
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Is your bow wide enough for those skins or do you need to cut them down the center like Timber Rattlers .
nice look Roy :thumbsup:
Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2021, 04:29:27 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 08, 2021, 04:36:11 PM
Very entertaining. :)
Packing my gear to take a grandson and his friend on a pack in to fish. Leave tomorrow and return Saturday. The friend has never been camping before so this should be interesting.
Pictures upon return.
Post by: Bvas on July 08, 2021, 05:29:13 PM
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Post by: kennym on July 08, 2021, 05:39:06 PM
I think we need to take a collection for Roy so he can get a sheep, he sure seems interested. Maybe a stuffed one ? :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on July 08, 2021, 06:01:04 PM
Post by: Bvas on July 08, 2021, 06:08:53 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 08, 2021, 09:19:54 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 09, 2021, 04:43:50 AM
Post by: Bowjunkie on July 09, 2021, 05:51:36 AM
Post by: Buemaker on July 09, 2021, 07:45:49 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 09, 2021, 08:41:57 AM
All I ever see in drawings are parallel mid limb but I like these.
72" and 64" NTN
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Post by: Bob D on July 09, 2021, 09:38:38 AM
Verniers are good. No rack to fill up with chips and dust. No battery to run down. No linear encoder to gum up. And nobody will “borrow” them because they won’t know how to read them. :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 01:15:52 PM
Here’s a pic of the other field then one of my bean plot at home ...
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 01:16:33 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 09, 2021, 02:59:49 PM
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 03:16:55 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 09, 2021, 03:21:53 PM
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 03:27:56 PM
I keep it garaged . LOL
Cost damn near as much as my house... :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 09, 2021, 03:42:21 PM
Looks nice..
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 03:57:23 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 09, 2021, 04:16:09 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 04:28:49 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 09, 2021, 04:55:30 PM
Short or tall grass?
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 06:05:41 PM
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 06:44:13 PM
Wish it had some timber ...
Post by: kennym on July 09, 2021, 10:01:55 PM
Got a fellow coming to shoot a couple bows , he wants to build one...
He likes the fhlb, 3rd from right. So we saw on a riser tomorrow and glue it back together...
Post by: Mad Max on July 10, 2021, 01:09:04 PM
Post by: kennym on July 10, 2021, 02:08:15 PM
We spot glued 2 hunks of fancy Wood together. Sawed a design I drew up and swapped pieces , then glued back together. Next round we will glue the other pieces up and put a g10 I beam in the first one. Oh I guess we are building 2 bows ...
Post by: Mad Max on July 10, 2021, 02:33:59 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 10, 2021, 03:33:13 PM
Post by: kennym on July 10, 2021, 03:57:05 PM
Post by: kennym on July 10, 2021, 04:16:47 PM
Red Balu and stabilized buckeye burl.
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Post by: Mad Max on July 10, 2021, 04:51:41 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 10, 2021, 05:00:58 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 10, 2021, 07:14:24 PM
Here's my house surrounded by . . . . Ah, er other houses. :biglaugh:
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Post by: Longcruise on July 10, 2021, 09:10:11 PM
I packed 74# in just to be sure I could fill in the gaps. The friend was on his second camping trip ever and caught his first fish ever.
I know it's not bow related but that's what I did today and yesterday.
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This dig was about 20 feet from my tent. A bear tore this up likely last year. probably trying to dig a rodent out.
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Post by: Bvas on July 10, 2021, 10:24:58 PM
I hope the youngsters enjoyed themselves. I know I would have.
Post by: Bvas on July 10, 2021, 10:27:28 PM
A couple of pegs busted while it was in the hot box. Will find out in the morning.
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Post by: Pat B on July 10, 2021, 11:20:15 PM
I started working on some arrows for an arrow trade on PA and another project. These are 3 sourwood shoots and 2 hill cane after the initial straightening session.
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Post by: flyonline on July 11, 2021, 02:17:55 AM
I have some high hopes for this timber, this is the 3rd successful bow I've made but I've yet to hear of anyone definitely using it for bows. The previous 2 were a lot more impressive than this though :laughing:
Bow was roughed out then quick dried which induced both prop twist and about 2" of reflex. Of course the reflex has almost disappeared (but no string follow as yet...), but the prop twist stayed :banghead:
66" NTN
28lb @ 28"
450gms
Steve
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2021, 04:39:11 AM
Good job Brad and Steve.
Pat looking forward to the arrow build.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 09:27:54 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on July 11, 2021, 09:59:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2021, 12:51:44 PM
Welcome to the Bench....
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2021, 12:58:27 PM
Most of the sideways pictures comes from pictures from cell phones.
I use the Paint app in windows to rotate them, then save them, then post here.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 01:03:52 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2021, 01:08:32 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2021, 01:21:06 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 03:49:00 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 03:50:22 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2021, 05:30:58 PM
Post by: Bvas on July 11, 2021, 05:59:51 PM
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Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 06:05:09 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 11, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Post by: Bvas on July 11, 2021, 09:03:35 PM
Cherry veneers under clear glass.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 11, 2021, 09:07:07 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 12, 2021, 04:59:59 AM
Post by: kennym on July 12, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 12, 2021, 09:00:19 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 12, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
Post by: kennym on July 12, 2021, 10:13:15 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 12, 2021, 11:37:58 AM
Anyhow gonna give ElRoy some credit here :wavey: I tried the sanding block on the bandsaw blade pulling it backwards by hand. This was on a blade set aside for glass. seemed to make it better.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on July 12, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 12, 2021, 12:40:04 PM
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Anyhow gonna give ElRoy some credit here :wavey: I tried the sanding block on the bandsaw blade pulling it backwards by hand. This was on a blade set aside for glass. seemed to make it better.
OK, who are you and whad ya do wif Mike?:)
Post by: kennym on July 12, 2021, 01:05:54 PM
Just jokin kids, don't try this at home or anywhere else!! :o
Post by: Bvas on July 12, 2021, 07:16:00 PM
Cherry, maple and purple heart in the riser? JF
You got it. ;)
Its a lightweight bow for the wifey. The cherry has sentimental value as her dad rough cut the boards probably 30+ years ago. It’s harder than s#*t so hopefully no problems. :pray:
Post by: bigbob2 on July 12, 2021, 10:46:24 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 12, 2021, 11:32:05 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 13, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
Sorry, no photos yet. It's in the oven. Tomorrow we will take a peek for bitter or worse.
Post by: Pat B on July 13, 2021, 07:58:29 PM
Post by: Shredd on July 13, 2021, 08:33:11 PM
Today I entered the cage with my nemesis; the first attempt at a recurve. First it was form problems, then it was material problems and then came the dropped riser block half way through the lay up!
Geez... You better sacrifice a chicken or something to appease the Bow Gods...
Post by: kennym on July 13, 2021, 09:12:09 PM
I pulled the injector pump off my 4020 and mailed it off to be rebuilt.
And tested some bows for a fellow in England. While doin that I saw a set of limbs on a shelf for my TD that I modified a form for. My hunting bow shot 182 with the same arrow the new limbs did 191 with after narrowing the tips on the new ones.
Crap, now I have the new ones finished and I spose I'll shoot high for a month... :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 14, 2021, 06:32:56 AM
I've lost another brother in law and the funeral is today at 11 am.
Leaves me with only one brother in law remaining.
Life is so hard at times...
Post by: Bowjunkie on July 14, 2021, 06:47:29 AM
Post by: Shredd on July 14, 2021, 07:30:00 AM
Post by: Buemaker on July 14, 2021, 07:32:32 AM
Post by: kennym on July 14, 2021, 08:08:39 AM
Post by: Pat B on July 14, 2021, 08:17:21 AM
Post by: Flem on July 14, 2021, 08:38:27 AM
My 98yr old Dad can attest to that.
Post by: mmattockx on July 14, 2021, 10:01:27 AM
Sorry Roy. Its the curse of living a long life, you outlive all your friends and loved ones.
+1. Years ago I had a boss in his 80's and he went a lot of funerals as he outlived many of his contemporaries.
Sorry for your loss, Roy.
Mark
Post by: Longcruise on July 14, 2021, 10:32:28 AM
Post by: Carpdaddy on July 14, 2021, 11:04:52 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 14, 2021, 04:06:19 PM
Dave.
Post by: Longcruise on July 14, 2021, 07:53:26 PM
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Just in time! Major thunderstorms and rain on the shop floor 🙄
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More to come of course.
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 14, 2021, 08:08:23 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 15, 2021, 06:42:50 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 15, 2021, 07:22:56 AM
Sorry to hear of your loss Roy.
For you recurve handle belly overlays saw a 2x6 to fit the front of your riser shape. Put your bow on it to give a flat surface for your C clamps. You can then shape a piece to fit or I use pieces about .120 to overlay to the right thickness then shape the riser.
Post by: Bowjunkie on July 15, 2021, 08:29:46 AM
Then stretch a weighted string from one end to the other, centered on the ends of the blank, and 'drop plumb lines down' from the string to find the center of the handle area, and various places along the limbs. A few more marks are generally beneficial in the area with the most recurve.
Instead of an actual plumb bob, I've found it easier to use a good combination square with a level in it to mark the limb center directly below/plumb off the string. I make 5 or 6 marks on each limb then double check them by holding the square on the opposite side of the string at each mark, and when it all checks out... connect the dots with a flexible straightedge. A full length piece of fiberglass clamped down with spring clamps works well.
This is a good method to use in the absence of a big perfectly flat bench and will tell you if both limbs are in the same lateral plane, how well the riser and limbs are all aligned off the press... and perhaps how well your press is constructed.
If I didn't describe that well enough and a picture would help, just say so.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 15, 2021, 08:34:43 AM
Post by: kennym on July 15, 2021, 08:59:08 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 15, 2021, 10:09:32 AM
Jeff, on my simpler (less reflexed designs) I use pretty much the system you described. I'm going to try that and study carefully before committing to it!
Thanks, once again the Bench knowledge pool provides excellent support. 👌
Roy, hope all is going well for your family.
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 15, 2021, 04:49:02 PM
I’m sure that the wife won’t mind... 😉
Dave.
Post by: Shredd on July 15, 2021, 10:03:20 PM
Post by: Flem on July 15, 2021, 11:14:52 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 16, 2021, 04:16:16 AM
Just takes some time.
Post by: onetone on July 16, 2021, 10:31:55 AM
My condolences to you Roy. It's never easy ...
Post by: Longcruise on July 16, 2021, 11:31:24 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 16, 2021, 01:55:07 PM
Got this one done today.
(http://i.imgur.com/zNS1IhX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zNS1IhX)
Post by: Pat B on July 16, 2021, 02:18:56 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 16, 2021, 02:23:14 PM
Shoots pretty darn good.
Post by: Buemaker on July 16, 2021, 03:01:54 PM
Post by: kennym on July 16, 2021, 05:49:19 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 16, 2021, 10:50:07 PM
Post by: onetone on July 17, 2021, 09:39:36 PM
A friend went to some trouble to bring some turkey feathers in the hope I could use them for arrows. I have always bought my fletches precut, but my friend is one of the good guys so I decided to have a go at making my own fletches. Liked the idea of burning rather than die cutting, because the fletches on each arrow would closely match each other. Used an old door hinge for a grinding clamp. Beveled the edges thinner to make grinding the quill easier. Got an old 40 watt Lionel train transformer (WWII vintage) to heat up the nichrome burning wire. Made a wire shaping jig out of masonite to form the wire. Had a couple of raven feathers around, so I used those for cock feathers on two of the arrows. The experiment worked out ok. Some pix below show the setup and outcome.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 18, 2021, 04:37:15 AM
Nice job on those feathers, Joel.
Post by: Longcruise on July 18, 2021, 11:16:30 AM
Met this one on the bike path this morning. Looks like it just ate a family of mice.
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Post by: Bvas on July 18, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
Got the riser roughed out for my three piece.
Post by: Flem on July 19, 2021, 07:57:12 AM
If you take that bow, you could help feed the tribe :goldtooth:
Post by: Mad Max on July 19, 2021, 08:23:30 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on July 20, 2021, 04:31:36 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2021, 06:36:37 AM
LOL Flem, I'm a little past due for a hair cut...
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 20, 2021, 07:46:15 AM
How about a pic of that drill jig. Is it mounted on the corian or marble ??
Post by: kennym on July 20, 2021, 07:47:17 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 03:23:46 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 03:30:03 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2021, 03:45:14 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 03:52:55 PM
Maybe some needs to be taken off the limb sides?
Post by: Shredd on July 20, 2021, 04:31:12 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2021, 04:36:29 PM
Something else is out of alignment.
Filing that nock more isn't going to bring it into alignment.
Post by: Mad Max on July 20, 2021, 06:08:54 PM
Filing the nock deeper on the side with the X.
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Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 06:16:02 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 06:18:51 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 06:34:28 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on July 20, 2021, 06:40:34 PM
you may have to take .030 off
Right now you don't have a bow , you need to get more aggressive at sanding the side, keep a eye on the other end also.
Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 06:43:23 PM
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Post by: Longcruise on July 20, 2021, 06:49:11 PM
Max, no, I haven't tried sanding the limbs yet.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on July 20, 2021, 10:19:28 PM
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It appears your profile may not be sanded right.
Got two going right now. TD longbows. One just plain jane yellow Aboo. the other will have Curly Etimore veneers. with the dark riser.
(https://i.imgur.com/XWUsxMd.jpg)
Post by: Shredd on July 21, 2021, 01:00:43 AM
Like my pop always said, "Start out plumb and level, end up plumb and level"... If you start out wrong, You got a mess on your hands...
Post by: flyonline on July 21, 2021, 05:18:41 AM
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A new just stretched in string that I needed to re-serve after removing the nocking points....
Sharp edges and tight strings don't mix :dunno:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 21, 2021, 06:46:37 AM
Post by: Pat B on July 21, 2021, 08:38:44 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 21, 2021, 08:45:11 AM
You do tie on nocks like I do..
:thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on July 21, 2021, 09:23:20 AM
Well you know how, anyways all it did was smoke and now it looks like that stinky smoke is everywhere!
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 21, 2021, 09:37:45 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 21, 2021, 10:16:10 AM
Have you strung that bow up yet? Looks to me like you need to do more sanding on the one side. I always start with tips wide and find dynamic center by deepening the grooves then sand the width to make them even. If you are talking about the way you string is off center may be due to the weight of you bolt more on that side. Need something more like a plumb bob.
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It appears your profile may not be sanded right.
Got two going right now. TD longbows. One just plain jane yellow Aboo. the other will have Curly Etimore veneers. with the dark riser.
(https://i.imgur.com/XWUsxMd.jpg)
It's been strung and drawn to 28".
In the last photo, you can see the riser section leaning relative to the tips. Since the bow (in that picture) is sitting on the limb face beyond the fades, it may be a form problem. This form gave me fits from the git go.
I have plenty of tip width to play with so today I'll continue with nock filing and then sanding the sides and see if it comes around. This blank may never be a bow so I'm trying to view it as an educational project.
I've never had a limb twist problem in any ASL or RD build so this is a whole new experience 🤔
I like the etimoe. I have enough left for one more bow. When I got it B&B Rare Woods had great pricing on it.
Post by: Longcruise on July 21, 2021, 10:23:05 AM
Check your form for near perfect flatness and then check for 90* only off one side of the form...
Like my pop always said, "Start out plumb and level, end up plumb and level"... If you start out wrong, You got a mess on your hands...
Yes, I'm thinking more and more that the form is the root of the problem. When I run a square down the sides it registers as flat but maybe there's some twist from end to end that doesn't show in a side to top measurement? 🤔
Thanks to all for your input. :thumbsup:
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 21, 2021, 04:01:48 PM
Dave.
Post by: Longcruise on July 21, 2021, 04:34:34 PM
Try a pair of winding sticks on your form. That will tell you for sure if it’s twisted.
Dave.
What's a winding stick?
Post by: flyonline on July 21, 2021, 04:36:39 PM
That could have been... :o
Yep....
I always hold my breath when doing that, but never try it with the bow strung for obvious reasons:)
You do tie on nocks like I do..
:thumbsup:
Yes, much easier to adjust and USUALLY easy to take off :laughing:
I use a very sharp knife and lay it flat on the string and cut angling up so as not to cut any of the main strands, but for some reason this nock wouldn't come off so I pushed a pair of scissors through a little loop that had formed. There must have been a sharp edge somewhere on the back and *POP* it was too late :o
Moral of the story: don't be in a rush (not that I needed to be anyway :knothead:)
Post by: Bvas on July 21, 2021, 06:03:42 PM
Looking good everybody. Like that riser Bvas.
How about a pic of that drill jig. Is it mounted on the corian or marble ??
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Yes Stic, it is mounted to the granite. I have two sets of drill guides. One for riser and one for limbs. The Allen screws lock the guides into place.
I went with one bolt and two pins so that I don’t have to flip the riser or the guide to drill both sides of riser.
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 21, 2021, 06:32:36 PM
Dave.
Post by: Longcruise on July 21, 2021, 07:15:07 PM
Take two straight pieces of wood, 18” to 24” long and lay one across each end of the form. Sight down the form. If it’s straight, you should only see one stick. If it’s twisted, you’ll see it right away.
Dave.
Aha, I get it now. I'm going to try that. :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 21, 2021, 07:44:32 PM
Curly dark Etimore
(https://i.imgur.com/npBBKPS.jpg)
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 21, 2021, 08:18:42 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 21, 2021, 08:23:36 PM
Post by: Shredd on July 21, 2021, 09:01:41 PM
Post by: Flem on July 21, 2021, 09:21:04 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 22, 2021, 12:38:40 PM
It is natural out of their package. It is real consistent in thickness also
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Post by: kennym on July 22, 2021, 02:46:19 PM
Also glued up a bow blank...
Post by: kennym on July 23, 2021, 01:35:26 PM
LOL
Starting another one now...
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 23, 2021, 03:05:57 PM
Kenny human error or glass issue ?
I done a design change in this lastest TD longbow to get a better bend
. First set way heavy second set a bit light (but I sold my personal TD Sooo ) 3rd set pretty close.
Bvas mine is bolted to a steel plate. Only one block. I drill from both sides so I keep the same side down. But I need to have the block machined for drill bushings in the 1/4 holes
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Post by: kennym on July 23, 2021, 03:18:50 PM
I need to check spine on it compared to .040 ...
The other bows had walnut and spalted hackberry for veneers , so that may have made a little diff but shouldn't be too much.
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 23, 2021, 03:32:52 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 23, 2021, 04:07:42 PM
Ya happy Kenndy?
:jumper:
Post by: Longcruise on July 23, 2021, 04:12:58 PM
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Post by: kennym on July 23, 2021, 04:20:20 PM
I got a hair cut.
Ya happy Kenndy?
:jumper:
Would be if'n I got one! :biglaugh:
I wuz gonna say it didn't happen with out pics, but nah... :biglaugh:
Post by: kennym on July 23, 2021, 04:21:47 PM
Post by: kennym on July 23, 2021, 04:23:01 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 23, 2021, 04:25:53 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 23, 2021, 05:10:43 PM
Kenny, a strip of Stabilcore could be up to 5#. Pretty sure you would've figured that into the stack.
Post by: kennym on July 23, 2021, 05:19:02 PM
Post by: Flem on July 24, 2021, 09:48:20 AM
My parents, as of today, have been married as long as you have been making America great :o
Post by: Longcruise on July 24, 2021, 10:34:02 AM
Happy belated Mike!
My parents, as of today, have been married as long as you have been making America great :o
Thanks, Flem. Tell your folks that I am impressed. 😀
Post by: Shredd on July 24, 2021, 10:40:26 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 24, 2021, 02:26:27 PM
Happy Birthday, old feller... You should not had said anything... By your posts I thought you were only around 30 to 35... :laughing:
Never learned to act my age! :biglaugh:
When my wife and I got married our friends said we would grow up with our kids. We didn't! :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 24, 2021, 03:06:44 PM
Post by: Longcruise on July 24, 2021, 04:21:59 PM
Never seen stable core add weight as long as it was part of the total. Now adding it to your stack gonna raise the weight.
That was my reference figuring 1# per .003. I thought he said he used two strips.
Post by: kennym on July 24, 2021, 04:30:07 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 24, 2021, 10:12:15 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 25, 2021, 12:01:59 PM
Post by: Shredd on July 25, 2021, 02:16:14 PM
I have been busy with Carpentry and pain... When I get done working all I want to do is lay down and take the pressure off of my hip and lower back... So I have not been very motivated to make bows in the off hours... Add in, this is the year I decided to fix everything that is wrong with my property, which includes three buildings and a big shed, leaves me little time to do other things... Also I will be visiting my family up in PA. for about a month...
When I get back the heat should be gone mid October, I think I will be making bows again... My next goal is to start tweaking the design I have and try to break 195 fps...
Well that's about it for me as far as bow making is concerned... Maybe I will be able to post some stuff in October... :goldtooth:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 25, 2021, 02:35:53 PM
3 acres of mature forest and a decent camp....
Dogs played hard and ready to head home:)
Post by: Longcruise on July 25, 2021, 03:00:40 PM
After our 6th trip to the mountains yesterday looking at camps the past 2.5 years, we finally found a camp and sealed the deal in the front yard:)
3 acres of mature forest and a decent camp....
Dogs played hard and ready to head home:)
Whaa.....??
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Post by: mmattockx on July 25, 2021, 06:36:42 PM
Dogs played hard and ready to head home:)
Congrats on the new place, looks sweet. Any person that treats their dogs that well can't be all bad. :goldtooth:
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 25, 2021, 06:43:08 PM
Dogs are special.
Nice camp Mike.
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 25, 2021, 06:51:20 PM
Dave.
Post by: Mad Max on July 25, 2021, 06:58:57 PM
LOL thanks Mark.
Dogs are special.
Nice camp Mike.
More special than you :bigsmyl:
Post by: Pat B on July 25, 2021, 07:01:39 PM
Is the ramp in the back of the car for you to get in? :dunno: :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 25, 2021, 08:49:55 PM
Post by: Flem on July 25, 2021, 09:19:14 PM
We call those primary residence's out here :biglaugh:
Post by: Longcruise on July 25, 2021, 09:22:34 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 25, 2021, 09:25:36 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 25, 2021, 09:40:36 PM
Do you rent the camp for the season or??
We bought it, Mike.
Post by: Bvas on July 25, 2021, 10:15:57 PM
How far is it from the house?
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 25, 2021, 10:27:51 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 25, 2021, 11:47:41 PM
Thanks Brad, 2.5 hours
Nice Roy :thumbsup:
Post by: Longcruise on July 26, 2021, 02:39:29 AM
Do you rent the camp for the season or??
We bought it, Mike.
Sweet! :thumbsup:
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 26, 2021, 05:55:01 PM
A while back, I built a pair of sister risers using padauk and zebra wood. One bow turned out a good shooter, but with a funny set, kind of like a gull wing look. Oh well, it shoots well and it’s nice looking, so I kept it for myself.
The second one was too heavy, so it sat for a while. Earlier this summer, I ground off the backing and thinned the core. Then I glued on a new backing. It came out good, but then the bow developed a problem with the bamboo on the belly side of one limb, so I ground off the lam and glued on a new one last night.
So, this afternoon I got home from work and went down to get the bow out of the clamps. The glue lines looked good and I trimmed the excess bamboo. I gave the bow a few light bends to see how it felt and I was pleased that it was just the right weight. I bent it a little bit more and one limb folded.
So much for that...
I cut out the riser. It’s too nice to throw out.
This is the sister.
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Dave.
Post by: Flem on July 27, 2021, 09:12:01 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 27, 2021, 04:19:49 PM
Dave.
Post by: Mad Max on July 28, 2021, 08:36:26 AM
Went out there Yesterday at 6:00PM and sprayed 2 side and was soaking wet 90* and with humidity feel like temp. was 102*. :nono:
Now I have to spray the other 2 sides :banghead:
Not fun
Post by: Pat B on July 28, 2021, 10:08:54 AM
Today I turn 71. Not quite as old as Roy but I guess I never will be. :thumbsup: :laughing:
Post by: Flem on July 28, 2021, 10:38:55 AM
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Thats our air quality
Post by: Mad Max on July 28, 2021, 11:03:24 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 28, 2021, 11:28:00 AM
Damn Flem that is nasty.
Post by: Flem on July 28, 2021, 11:32:27 AM
Sorry I did not notice before, I was too busy feeling sorry for myself :banghead:
Post by: Bob D on July 28, 2021, 03:36:21 PM
You could see the smoke moving across the continent in a NOAA satellite clip. :tongue:
Post by: Flem on July 28, 2021, 03:58:15 PM
We have been in the Unhealthy category for 3days now. Yesterday it was Very Unhealthy and it makes you feel like crap real fast breathing that stuff.
Post by: Pat B on July 28, 2021, 04:12:32 PM
Flem, we were getting some of that smoke here too but not that much.
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 28, 2021, 04:22:25 PM
We have some smoke here too. That plus the humidity makes it hard to breathe.
Summer is not my favourite either. I love the fall.
Dave.
Post by: Mad Max on July 28, 2021, 04:29:14 PM
Still have to finish spraying my shed today
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 28, 2021, 10:12:17 PM
IN. Leading high school most points - Naismith award - Miss basketball state champ In. And NCAA champ at Notre Dame in her Sophmore year. Now WNBA with Las Vegas Aces.
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Post by: Pat B on July 28, 2021, 10:57:40 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 28, 2021, 11:46:07 PM
I may try to hook this guy up with something.
Post by: Shredd on July 29, 2021, 12:44:20 AM
Post by: Mad Max on July 29, 2021, 01:19:27 AM
Post by: Flem on July 29, 2021, 08:36:26 AM
Post by: Longcruise on July 29, 2021, 10:59:46 AM
So at least I have reading about you all for distraction. I'm expecting this all to end well. Just not done seeing it through.
Post by: Flem on July 29, 2021, 11:07:57 AM
Post by: Shredd on July 29, 2021, 11:41:15 AM
Research bone broth... It's good for the innards...
Post by: Longcruise on July 29, 2021, 12:59:14 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 29, 2021, 02:00:18 PM
:pray: :pray:
Post by: kennym on July 29, 2021, 03:44:40 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 29, 2021, 04:01:58 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 29, 2021, 04:59:50 PM
:pray:
Post by: Longcruise on July 29, 2021, 09:18:55 PM
Post by: Flem on July 29, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 30, 2021, 05:51:51 AM
Post by: Pat B on July 30, 2021, 09:59:32 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 30, 2021, 08:26:20 PM
And hometown girl back home with the gold.
(https://i.imgur.com/Xqu40dm.jpg)
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Post by: Pat B on July 30, 2021, 09:20:55 PM
Post by: Flem on July 31, 2021, 10:03:09 AM
Unlike your pellet stove, those heaters heat the air.
Post by: Shredd on July 31, 2021, 03:33:33 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on July 31, 2021, 04:00:55 PM
Post by: Mad Max on July 31, 2021, 04:09:08 PM
Post by: Pat B on July 31, 2021, 04:44:09 PM
It is a lot of work but you forget that part of it soon enough and enjoy the fruits of your labor. :thumbsup:
Post by: mmattockx on July 31, 2021, 06:07:46 PM
made 10 lbs of maple deer sausage
That sounds great. We have a local butcher do a honey garlic pepperoni sausage and it is fantastic.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 31, 2021, 06:24:14 PM
I'll be up....
:biglaugh:
Post by: Longcruise on July 31, 2021, 06:35:01 PM
So I'm making two arm guards.
Post by: Flem on July 31, 2021, 07:03:35 PM
Post by: flyonline on August 01, 2021, 05:41:33 AM
Trying to shoot a little between caregiver duties.
Hope she's keeps on the mend :thumbsup: Nothing worse than watching a loved one suffer.
Finished roughing out the other part of the hickory wattle sapling from the previous bow I posted. There's a lot more meat to work with, so as long as I can get past a couple of issues (2x diagonal knots just in/out of the fades) I should be sweet. This was a pipe straight sapling yet both have pulled into reflex while drying, and after a hundred or so shots the first bow still holds all it's reflex so it will be interesting to see if this one holds it too.
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Built another string to replace the one I cut, added a raised rest and played around with silencer size and placement. Now that it's closer to where it was probably originally tillered (for split), the bow is somewhat quieter and a little deader in the hand so some good came out of a bad situation!
Post by: Longcruise on August 01, 2021, 12:57:48 PM
Might be able to lay up a bow Tuesday.
I have two all precut and ready to go on the forms. They are beckoning. 😀
Post by: kennym on August 01, 2021, 02:55:34 PM
Post by: Flem on August 01, 2021, 07:26:59 PM
Spent some time thinking about glue, thats about it.
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 01, 2021, 09:11:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZG96Ib4.jpg)
Post by: Bowjunkie on August 02, 2021, 06:31:52 PM
Post by: Bowjunkie on August 02, 2021, 06:33:47 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 02, 2021, 07:31:29 PM
Definitely diggin the brown. JF
Post by: smag on August 02, 2021, 08:03:01 PM
Hedge~
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 02, 2021, 08:10:25 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 02, 2021, 09:15:17 PM
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There’s some kind of green stain in some of the wood. I’ve never seen that before.
Now we just need to put the finishing touches on the mill and get to work on the rest of the log pile.😁
Dave.
Post by: Flem on August 02, 2021, 09:29:48 PM
Post by: Shredd on August 03, 2021, 07:24:14 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 03, 2021, 08:27:42 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 03, 2021, 08:43:48 AM
Post by: Flem on August 03, 2021, 08:46:13 AM
Post by: Flem on August 03, 2021, 09:10:12 AM
Did not use liquid colorant, just candy pearl powder. Going for the "Brunswick" look. This is the cured excess resin.
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 03, 2021, 12:35:37 PM
Post by: mmattockx on August 03, 2021, 07:24:10 PM
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Mark
Post by: Longcruise on August 03, 2021, 09:50:39 PM
Glued up a riser block and got the two riser pieces cut and sanded to shape. Lams are done, just need to get pressure strips and then I can glue this one up.
(https://i.imgur.com/MtRHqrG.jpg)
Mark
Trying to figure out how those pieces go together :dunno:
Post by: Flem on August 03, 2021, 11:29:40 PM
Post by: mmattockx on August 03, 2021, 11:39:05 PM
Trying to figure out how those pieces go together :dunno:
:biglaugh:
I didn't realize it would be a puzzle. It's a sort of forward handle wood lam bow, so the thin piece is an overlay on the back of the bow and the thick piece is the grip and goes on the belly.
Mark
Post by: Flem on August 03, 2021, 11:50:50 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 04, 2021, 05:36:58 AM
:laughing: :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on August 04, 2021, 08:01:13 AM
Post by: mmattockx on August 04, 2021, 09:55:36 AM
That's the same steep ramps you had before??
No, this is completely different. It is more like a board bow where the handle is glued on the surface and the lams run through the grip area.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on August 04, 2021, 11:39:13 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 05, 2021, 05:56:58 AM
We are on cloud 9...
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 05, 2021, 06:51:40 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 05, 2021, 07:40:33 AM
Post by: Pat B on August 05, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
Post by: kennym on August 05, 2021, 08:29:16 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 05, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
Post by: Flem on August 05, 2021, 09:20:09 AM
Post by: mmattockx on August 05, 2021, 09:50:04 AM
Mark
Post by: Buemaker on August 05, 2021, 10:04:32 AM
Post by: Longcruise on August 05, 2021, 10:57:40 AM
If I had a place like that I'd live there. The wife would for sure disagree. :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 05, 2021, 01:07:29 PM
LOL Mike, the wife loves it in the mountains..
Thanks guys..
Post by: Longcruise on August 05, 2021, 03:31:53 PM
Bunk is there Bue.
LOL Mike, the wife loves it in the mountains..
Thanks guys..
Mine too but living there has been out of the question.
Today I put field tips on this year's hunters. Also numbered and weighed them. These spine exactly as last year's but are a little lighter. Need to get more field points and pick the six best for broadheads.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 05, 2021, 07:26:36 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 05, 2021, 07:28:37 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 05, 2021, 08:42:59 PM
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Post by: flyonline on August 06, 2021, 05:34:06 AM
... I've been thinking about one in Antarctica. Nothing to burn there.
What's your setup for penguins? :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 06, 2021, 07:16:56 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 06, 2021, 08:10:32 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 06, 2021, 08:15:38 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 06, 2021, 08:17:09 AM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on August 06, 2021, 08:52:11 AM
That is how I build most all of my bows.
Post by: kennym on August 06, 2021, 08:57:51 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 06, 2021, 10:10:45 AM
Been several black yotes seen around here the past couple years.
Buddy trapped this one a couple years ago.
Post by: Pat B on August 06, 2021, 10:58:53 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 06, 2021, 12:34:39 PM
I don't think they like the sound of bullets flying over their head? :dunno:
They killed our 2 ducks right in our yard one day.
Another time we were fishing at our pond and one stuck his head out of the tall grass.
Our 2 labs went absolutely crazy kill mode when they seen him.
He decided to leave...
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 06, 2021, 01:51:47 PM
And I think the other will be maybe light 50s
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 06, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
Post by: mmattockx on August 06, 2021, 08:07:06 PM
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Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 06, 2021, 08:30:04 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 06, 2021, 08:34:27 PM
Dave.
Post by: mmattockx on August 06, 2021, 08:47:15 PM
I like old tools! That saw looks almost new.
Dave.
Me too, they have more character. With the heavy castings and all the steel it should survive a nuclear war. My kids will be running this thing long after I am gone. It has either been well cared for or someone restored it along the way. The last owner put new tires on and everything is in great shape.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on August 06, 2021, 11:03:23 PM
Bought a new (to me) bandsaw today. It's a 12" Walker-Turner Driver Line unit, from somewhere back before WWII. There should be a model number on it somewhere but I haven't found it yet. Runs smooth and cuts a dead straight line along the fence so it should work well for roughing out lams from larger stock. Came with a fair number of spare blades in a variety of widths and tooth counts.
Mark
The name plate would be on the base, but yours doesn't have the original base.
Nice machine :thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on August 07, 2021, 08:19:57 AM
Post by: kennym on August 07, 2021, 08:26:26 AM
Post by: mmattockx on August 07, 2021, 09:48:52 AM
Great looking old saw!! Ya carry that into the shop in one hand? :bigsmyl:
C'mon, we're not all as tough as Roy... I needed some help.
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 07, 2021, 10:21:45 AM
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Post by: Bvas on August 07, 2021, 06:30:10 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 07, 2021, 06:57:42 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 07, 2021, 08:35:11 PM
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I’ve been slowly learning to do leather work. It’s fun, but I need to improve my stitching.
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on August 07, 2021, 09:51:46 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 08, 2021, 05:56:53 AM
Post by: kennym on August 08, 2021, 08:25:24 AM
Post by: kennym on August 08, 2021, 08:27:09 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 08, 2021, 08:51:07 AM
Morning....
Post by: kennym on August 08, 2021, 08:54:36 AM
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 09:29:02 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 08, 2021, 09:30:01 AM
I’ll be getting some more leather working practice. I have a few more knives that need sheathes. And I need a sling for Thumper.
Dave.
Post by: Longcruise on August 08, 2021, 10:55:14 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 08, 2021, 10:59:19 AM
Dave.
Post by: mmattockx on August 08, 2021, 11:27:52 AM
I made my first knife sheath.
:thumbsup: Nice! I like a horizontal knife sheath. More comfortable to wear and keeps the knife out of the way til needed.
The sheath looks good and that looks like a handy little EDC knife. Where do you wear it on your belt? In front like appendix carry, on the side, around back or cross draw?
Mark
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 08, 2021, 11:35:24 AM
This great little knife had an ugly sheath. When I bought it,the sheath was missing, so the salesman gave me another one. It usually rode in my pocket.
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 11:51:16 AM
The horizontal sheaths I use the knife "snaps" into place and are held tight enough to remove the knife easily but the knife won't fall out under normal use.
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 11:57:42 AM
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Thanks anyway, Roy. These are some really nice shafts. :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 08, 2021, 12:01:33 PM
Glad you like them Pat and you will look good wif pink crested arrows..
:laughing: :thumbsup:
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 12:06:45 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 08, 2021, 12:25:15 PM
Looking forward to seeing the arrows finish Pat
Post by: Longcruise on August 08, 2021, 02:03:56 PM
It does need to be tight. I wet formed it to the knife, but it’s not tight enough to stop the knife from sliding out. Still, not too bad for my first one.
Dave.
You could use a snap cover like the typical sheath. I made a vertical form fit without a cover that's so tight it needs a leather loop to pull it out.
Post by: Longcruise on August 08, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
Post by: kennym on August 08, 2021, 02:35:31 PM
Was gonna hunt with them but they are 73 db and the originals are 68 db with meter 2' from the bow.
BTW Rolling Stones on with average volume was 74-75 db . :laughing:
New ones are 9 fps faster and 2 lb lighter.
While I had the old limbs on I shot it a few times from 20 yds, dead on, better than I'd shot the new ones.
Soooo... old limbs are gonna hunt this year, accurate and quiet trumps speed every time... :thumbsup: :archer2:
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 02:51:25 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 08, 2021, 02:53:27 PM
Post by: kennym on August 08, 2021, 03:00:17 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 08, 2021, 03:48:16 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 08, 2021, 03:51:22 PM
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Looked kind of wonky so I drew a line with MS Paint :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/vrHoWbu.jpg)
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 08, 2021, 04:06:36 PM
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 04:44:02 PM
Dave, I can always use help finding arrows. :thumbsup:
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 08, 2021, 06:35:07 PM
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The stitching is still kind of crappy. I used my cheapo leather machine and it fought me the whole way. My Mother, who is a seamstress, asked me why I don’t just buy a good machine. Only problem is that the good machines cost ten times as much as the cheapo.
Dave.
Post by: Longcruise on August 08, 2021, 08:54:28 PM
I've looked at a few machines and concluded pretty muc as you have as far as the dollars go.
The 1911 is often part of my bow hunting gear. :)
Post by: Pat B on August 08, 2021, 11:02:46 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 09, 2021, 04:05:07 AM
Dave and Mike nice leather work.
I always pre punch the holes before stitching up the grip on my bows then stitch them with a large needle.
Post by: Longcruise on August 09, 2021, 11:15:42 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 09, 2021, 12:04:34 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 09, 2021, 04:17:11 PM
The machine can do a nice job, but sometimes it just wants to fight.
Those are nice sheathes Mike. We’re not allowed to carry here in our increasingly communist country. Big brother wants to make sure that we don’t hurt ourselves, or defend ourselves.
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on August 10, 2021, 10:56:00 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 10, 2021, 12:19:53 PM
Post by: mmattockx on August 10, 2021, 11:23:01 PM
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2010 Bandit 1250. The wife was wanting more passenger comfort than my current bikes offer and in return we will take longer trips to interesting places. This should fit her requirements and get us out to far away places more often.
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on August 11, 2021, 08:31:45 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 11, 2021, 08:43:09 AM
After they were all finished he gave me 1st choice to pick one out for free. He ended up with about 20 staves.
Nice rings too. :jumper:
Heavy dense Osage :bigsmyl:
(https://i.imgur.com/FzEfAeN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PUMZFiq.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 11, 2021, 09:03:51 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on August 11, 2021, 09:27:18 AM
I have a friend who has made dozens of PVC bows for kids at his church, they are actually pretty good shooters. He showed me his technique yesterday.
I watched the pvc bow youtube videos and have the bending jigs in place to make such a bow.
Of course I could make the little guy a Krewson bow but I can't seem to make cheap and simple. Every kids bow I ever made was a scaled down version of and adult bow, all were bamboo backed osage for safety and durability. I have never charged a penny for a kids bow and have made a pile of them over the years.
The thing is I don't know is if the youngster will actually take to archery or my work would be consigned to a dusty corner in a closet after the new wears off so a PVC bow it is, at least for a starter.
Post by: Pat B on August 11, 2021, 10:01:14 AM
Post by: Longcruise on August 11, 2021, 11:35:29 AM
Post by: Flem on August 11, 2021, 06:58:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 11, 2021, 08:30:38 PM
We will be back in about 10 to 14 days.
The weather there is cooler than here. :jumper:
:bigsmyl:
Post by: zhangkeyang on August 12, 2021, 05:04:41 AM
Post by: Flem on August 12, 2021, 09:35:49 AM
Sounds like a fun trip Max. I have not been there for years, but Cody was/is a nice town. Good Trout fishing around there. Good climbing also. Probably some Elk in those hills :bigsmyl:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 12, 2021, 10:32:35 AM
This camp is even more awesome than the last one.
It's at the dead end of a gravel/dirt mountain road that's all down hill off the main road with a sharp switchback turn:)
Post by: Jeff Freeman on August 12, 2021, 10:36:21 AM
Post by: Flem on August 12, 2021, 10:41:39 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 12, 2021, 10:44:44 AM
Post by: Pat B on August 12, 2021, 11:02:22 AM
Don't ya just love real estate transactions, Roy. Hope this one works out for you. Looks like a nice place.
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
Looks good bro! :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 12, 2021, 11:16:42 AM
Pat, I had to print out 43 pages of contract this morning:)
Kenndy it is awesome, new roof, septic pumped out last year, new floor, the whole camp in pretty much spotless.
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2021, 12:15:11 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 12, 2021, 12:20:09 PM
Reminds me of why I always unstring my bows...
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2021, 12:36:21 PM
No way when they will blow , could be the 10 th shot or 10 th year or never. :dunno:
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2021, 12:44:05 PM
Post by: mmattockx on August 12, 2021, 12:50:07 PM
This is too good not to share with you guys... Roy leave it up for a day or two for everyone to see and then take it off or I will delete it...
An acquaintance said he always liked to make sure he was cleaning a couple guns on the kitchen table when his daughter brought a new BF home. He looked at it as a litmus test. The good ones weren't intimidated and the really good ones would talk guns or hunting with him for a while.
I have my doubts about the one pictured, tho...
Mark
Post by: Buemaker on August 13, 2021, 06:36:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 13, 2021, 07:11:07 AM
WE GOT IT........
Realtor Agent text me last night that the seller accepted our offer..
2.5 years looking and finally we got a nice camp...
Ya Baby:)
Post by: kennym on August 13, 2021, 08:18:51 AM
Post by: Pat B on August 13, 2021, 08:46:02 AM
Post by: mmattockx on August 13, 2021, 09:57:52 AM
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 13, 2021, 04:15:16 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on August 13, 2021, 05:37:22 PM
Post by: Flem on August 14, 2021, 08:19:53 AM
The vertical wood in the pic is the waste.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 14, 2021, 08:27:25 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 14, 2021, 08:47:41 AM
Post by: Flem on August 14, 2021, 08:56:00 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 14, 2021, 10:03:26 AM
:wavey: :laughing:
Post by: kennym on August 14, 2021, 10:09:42 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 14, 2021, 10:40:32 AM
Flem when I get back from this trip you can send them to me
I will pay for shipping
Thanks
Post by: kennym on August 14, 2021, 10:59:00 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 14, 2021, 11:03:04 AM
:laughing:
Post by: Flem on August 14, 2021, 01:20:44 PM
My wife likes to knit on a road trip, I don't know about four dudes though........ Might be OK with Manly Yew needles :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on August 14, 2021, 01:26:50 PM
Yupper there ya go Maxi, pink knitting needles...
:laughing:
goody goody :clapper:
Post by: gifford, MO on August 15, 2021, 11:35:07 AM
Post by: Flem on August 15, 2021, 01:33:54 PM
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Laminating scrap Yew into a block is an excellent idea :thumbsup: I was thinking about glueing together vertical strips of clean wood into a laminated slat. I'm guessing thats what the Bamboo flooring is. Its also typical construction in a few types of sports equipment and of course bowling alleys :laugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 17, 2021, 06:01:40 AM
Yew is an awesome bow wood...
That bow is very quick.
Post by: Mad Max on August 17, 2021, 07:08:24 AM
From Lincoln Nebraska
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2021, 08:08:51 AM
Post by: kennym on August 17, 2021, 08:16:01 AM
Mark, are ya goin or comin? :) Did ya go thru the Badlands? Cool country...
Post by: Flem on August 17, 2021, 08:18:46 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 17, 2021, 08:19:22 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on August 17, 2021, 09:15:12 AM
Nice Roy
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2021, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: Buemaker on August 17, 2021, 09:33:31 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 17, 2021, 10:07:36 AM
Post by: Flem on August 17, 2021, 10:13:06 AM
You pulling up short on that thing Roy?
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 17, 2021, 11:18:08 AM
No coffee wifout pichers:)
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 17, 2021, 11:19:32 AM
Notice how much arrow is sticking out past the bow...
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2021, 11:41:43 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 17, 2021, 11:52:45 AM
Post by: Longcruise on August 17, 2021, 02:28:01 PM
Yew makes a nice riser, especially if you have a big enough chunk. I'm saving this one, till the right set of lams show up.
Laminating scrap Yew into a block is an excellent idea :thumbsup: I was thinking about glueing together vertical strips of clean wood into a laminated slat. I'm guessing thats what the Bamboo flooring is. Its also typical construction in a few types of sports equipment and of course bowling alleys :laugh:
Why do the sweeps look like they are concave?
Post by: Flem on August 17, 2021, 02:47:04 PM
Post by: Longcruise on August 17, 2021, 06:26:33 PM
Post by: Flem on August 17, 2021, 07:06:34 PM
Post by: Eric Krewson on August 19, 2021, 10:10:07 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 21, 2021, 08:06:57 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 21, 2021, 08:25:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/I1J6vhn.jpg)
Post by: Flem on August 21, 2021, 08:53:35 PM
Thats some thin slicing stic! What is your bandsaw setup?
Post by: flyonline on August 22, 2021, 03:35:24 AM
64" NTN and 50# @ 18" so far. Spent a little too long on the loooong string, and nearly ended up with a hinge in the upper limb (right in photo).
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Post by: Bob D on August 22, 2021, 10:04:55 AM
I dont always bandsaw thin stuff but when I do its under.040
Thats good rippin. :notworthy: Like Flem said, maybe some bandsaw setup pics?
Post by: Flem on August 22, 2021, 10:28:47 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 22, 2021, 11:38:24 AM
Steve, my long string lays tight against the belly when strung in the string goove.
When the tips are bending to about 6 inches, I brace the bow to a 4" brace.
When the tips are bending to 9 inches I brace the bow to 6.5 inches.
Post by: flyonline on August 22, 2021, 07:41:30 PM
5" handle with 3" fades each end. I'll lose most of that red gum on the belly side of the handle block though.
Roy
yes I usually do something similar, but somehow didn't this time, suspect because it was going so well I didn't think about it :banghead:
Still, no harm done (yet). I'm putting it down to the fact I'm on the other side of the hill (aka 40) now :biglaugh: :laughing:
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 22, 2021, 09:13:32 PM
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It’s made with eight oz veg tan leather with some red dyed patterned leather for the insert, and I saddle stitched it. I made it to ride at an angle on my left hip. So that it doesn’t get in the way, especially when I sit down.
Dave.
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 22, 2021, 09:45:24 PM
Post by: Pat B on August 22, 2021, 11:18:21 PM
Post by: flyonline on August 22, 2021, 11:31:34 PM
Is that just friction hold, or do you have a strap or something else?
Steve
Post by: mmattockx on August 23, 2021, 12:17:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZT9XCfH.jpg)
Mark
Post by: Flem on August 23, 2021, 08:52:08 AM
Flem is a 14 in. Jet with a 1/2 6/10VP bimetal blade and dont force it.
I don't want to be a 14" Jet :help: Stic, if you are some kind of Sorcerer, could you at least make me a 18" Laguna?
Post by: Buemaker on August 23, 2021, 01:25:44 PM
Post by: Buemaker on August 23, 2021, 01:36:25 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 23, 2021, 02:03:34 PM
:wavey: :laughing:
Post by: Flem on August 23, 2021, 02:17:16 PM
Post by: Buemaker on August 23, 2021, 02:40:50 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on August 23, 2021, 04:35:30 PM
Steve, there’s no strap. It fit really tight and it won’t fall out, even when it’s shaken hard.
Bue, that jelly looks good. Is it sweet enough to go on toast?
Dave.
Post by: Buemaker on August 23, 2021, 05:20:08 PM
Post by: Flem on August 23, 2021, 05:25:43 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on August 23, 2021, 05:42:54 PM
We drove from Batesville Mississippi to Cody Wyoming ( stayed at Lincoln Nebraska first night) seeing all the sites and drove up to Montana, red lodge and to Cooke city silver gate, also several National parks for 2 days. Went to Devils tower and then to Mt Rushmore, went up into the National forest there, Stayed in Rapid city South Dakota, Drove to Spearfish South Dakota, then to Kansas city, then back home.
We had a big time. Cold weather in Cody :thumbsup:
The main statement made on this trip was---I need to go to the bathroom-- :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 23, 2021, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: Pat B on August 23, 2021, 06:24:06 PM
Mark, sounds like a cool trip. The pics from the museum looked interesting. When we were kids taking trips my parents had what they called a half pint. It was for us boys so they didn't have to stop except for gas and food. A drip line out the bottom of the car would work too. :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on August 23, 2021, 06:30:49 PM
We rented a NEW 9 passenger Van for 5 of us so no holes in the floor. :nono:
We had a great time :thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on August 23, 2021, 07:27:30 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 23, 2021, 09:02:25 PM
Sound like an awesome trip Max! You guys saw some nice country :thumbsup: It does not get any better than a road trip with good friends. Maybe some Depends between gas stops? :laugh:
Next time Flem :laughing:
Post by: Bvas on August 23, 2021, 09:40:55 PM
Today I was finger rubbing in a thin second coat when I had a little slip and right into some sanding dust. So grabbed a cotton tshirt and proceeded to wipe the finish off. Ended up more or less buffing it in. Really like the looks. May just finish it out with a couple more coats the same way with light sanding in between.
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Post by: kennym on August 23, 2021, 09:52:08 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 23, 2021, 10:00:34 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 24, 2021, 09:49:49 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: OldRawhide42 on August 24, 2021, 10:09:02 AM
Post by: Bvas on August 24, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
Acetone might or might not be a better choice.
Hopefully KennyM will chime in. I believe he used ea40 for grain filer as well.
Post by: Longcruise on August 24, 2021, 12:38:01 PM
Post by: Flem on August 24, 2021, 01:08:38 PM
Post by: kennym on August 24, 2021, 01:28:35 PM
Post by: Bvas on August 24, 2021, 04:34:49 PM
Bvas, are you putting a top coat on the EA-40?
I haven’t decided for sure. Kinda waiting to see how it is after a few coats. I have a feeling it will be a little softer than I like. If so it will get top coated with tbird.
Post by: kennym on August 24, 2021, 05:25:42 PM
Post by: Longcruise on August 25, 2021, 01:03:02 PM
Yesterday I did some elk scouting. Not finding much sign at their usual haunts. Only seven days to opening. Might be anticlimactic.
Post by: 4 point on August 25, 2021, 11:53:01 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on August 25, 2021, 11:54:15 PM
More pictures please :bigsmyl:
Post by: Buemaker on August 26, 2021, 02:19:12 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 26, 2021, 05:00:37 AM
Post by: kennym on August 26, 2021, 07:56:03 AM
Post by: Flem on August 26, 2021, 08:54:58 AM
Post by: 4 point on August 26, 2021, 09:10:39 AM
Post by: Buemaker on August 26, 2021, 09:14:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 26, 2021, 09:23:50 AM
Flem x 2. I think today some bows are too fancy, almost like too many things are heaped on.
I agree wif ya Bue and Flem.
Post by: Mad Max on August 26, 2021, 10:07:39 AM
Flem x 2. I think today some bows are too fancy, almost like too many things are heaped on.
I agree wif ya Bue and Flem.
Me too
I made one with white glass and black and white glass overlays, came out nice
Post by: Flem on August 26, 2021, 04:28:20 PM
This is the definition of pot metal. I can buy a replacement for $35. Its such a sloppy POS, I'm considering fabricating something.
I was cutting the last of my Oregon Ash.
It looks a lot like Maple
It's nice wood. Got a good strength to elasticity ratio and it's relatively light. Seem like out west, Oregon got a bloated share of the good archery related woods.
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 26, 2021, 04:37:06 PM
Post by: Flem on August 26, 2021, 04:50:00 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 26, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
It did nt break, you broke it :knothead:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 26, 2021, 05:59:55 PM
Post by: onetone on August 26, 2021, 06:33:46 PM
Do you have a method of measuring “strength to elasticity ratio” on lams? I’d like to hear more about that.
Post by: Flem on August 26, 2021, 08:14:11 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 26, 2021, 10:59:52 PM
Really good for wear plate but that's a lot of wear.
Keep is up to date on how that works. :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 27, 2021, 04:24:52 AM
Good thinking.
Post by: flyonline on August 27, 2021, 04:32:24 AM
I agree wif ya Bue and Flem.
x whatever we're up to. Sleek and subtle wins over loud every time for me :thumbsup:
...and Tasmanian black wood.
Grown there or imported from down under? It's used for cabinetry, furniture, flooring and wood turning down here, and a few bows have been made from it including self-bows plus it's a nice tree in it's own right.
Post by: 4 point on August 27, 2021, 04:41:51 AM
Post by: flyonline on August 27, 2021, 05:39:16 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on August 27, 2021, 09:01:40 AM
Post by: 4 point on August 27, 2021, 07:33:34 PM
Post by: Bvas on August 27, 2021, 08:02:00 PM
I JB welded a motor block back together on a small block Ford once. It was broken out where the motor mount bolts on. I cleaned it up good and glued it up. I drove it for a lot of years and it was still holding, never leaked a drop of coolant
Did ya throw some duct tape on it for extra insurance? :laughing:
Post by: Bvas on August 27, 2021, 10:03:10 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on August 27, 2021, 11:32:42 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 28, 2021, 06:43:47 AM
Post by: kennym on August 28, 2021, 08:33:06 AM
So far today I've drank coffee, and drank coffee... I seem to be doing something wrong so I'm gonna try again... :laughing:
Post by: B-JS on August 28, 2021, 08:58:03 AM
Hope IT will come Out the way i want IT.
Post by: OldRawhide42 on August 28, 2021, 09:27:29 AM
Post by: Flem on August 28, 2021, 09:33:07 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on August 28, 2021, 09:37:06 AM
Post by: B-JS on August 28, 2021, 09:41:12 AM
B-JS how are you putting air in the fire hose ???
With a compressor?
There is a valve on the left Side.
Post by: B-JS on August 28, 2021, 09:43:53 AM
OK guys, we are in the company of a serious bowyer. It's not often you see a gallon kit of EA-40 in the workshop!
Just got them to show Off.... :biglaugh:
Post by: OldRawhide42 on August 28, 2021, 01:27:02 PM
Post by: B-JS on August 28, 2021, 01:46:28 PM
That are valves for Alloy Rims.
I Just make a hole in the Hose and screw them in with some washers, before i Close it with the clamp.
No Secret Sauce there.
Post by: Flem on August 28, 2021, 02:03:15 PM
Post by: B-JS on August 28, 2021, 02:08:08 PM
But those are used for my fix Forms.
For Prototype Forms, i use the ugly ones.
Post by: OldRawhide42 on August 28, 2021, 02:26:12 PM
Post by: mmattockx on August 28, 2021, 07:12:10 PM
Thank you. I dont know if we have them but I will find out.
Lots of auto parts shops and motorcycle shops sell valve stems similar to those.
Mark
Post by: mmattockx on August 28, 2021, 07:33:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mRZpHmM.jpg)
Now I wait for a couple days before I find out if it all worked as planned or not...
Mark
Post by: Bvas on August 28, 2021, 08:00:50 PM
Final shaping of limbs and tips.
Tillered for equal limb timing.
First coat of finish on limbs.
And next to last coat of finish on riser.
And slipped in a few test arrows while the limbs were mounted :saywhat:
And Flem….ea40 will be the final finish on the riser but not sure about the limbs.
I found for the final coats that a pretty thin mix with a super soft cotton tshirt results in a nice soft finish on the riser. I’m hoping I can get the same results on the limbs, but might be a challenge on the wide flats. The nice thing with the ea40 compared to most wipe on finishes is the long working time.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 28, 2021, 08:35:04 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 28, 2021, 09:18:00 PM
Looks good
Post by: Bvas on August 28, 2021, 09:27:12 PM
What solvent did you mix with it Bvas and how much?Lacquer thinner.
Looks good
First couple coats about 50/50. Final coats probably 60/40.
No precise measurements. Kinda like grandmas cooking. Just add thinner til it looks right. :biglaugh:
Post by: Flem on August 28, 2021, 11:25:26 PM
Post by: Mad Max on August 29, 2021, 06:50:57 AM
Post by: Buemaker on August 29, 2021, 07:07:49 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 29, 2021, 07:36:06 AM
:laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Buemaker on August 29, 2021, 07:38:57 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 29, 2021, 07:40:53 AM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on August 29, 2021, 07:45:05 AM
Or maybe someone ate something really bad last night.
Post by: B-JS on August 29, 2021, 07:55:13 AM
Just an other Riser with deeper Pivot, so a Bit high brace.
Lets See If thats what the customer wants.
Post by: Buemaker on August 29, 2021, 08:01:11 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 29, 2021, 08:01:32 AM
Post by: Buemaker on August 29, 2021, 08:15:08 AM
Post by: Bvas on August 29, 2021, 08:44:30 AM
That’s was a quick from form to finish.
Post by: B-JS on August 29, 2021, 08:53:09 AM
Just a Prototype.
So no superduperfine Finish and no Overlays and stuff.
That saves a Lot of time.
So such a Bow Takes Just a Low one-digit Number of hours.
Post by: Shredd on August 29, 2021, 03:57:09 PM
Post by: Buemaker on August 29, 2021, 04:16:48 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 29, 2021, 04:26:01 PM
:pray: :pray:
Post by: Shredd on August 29, 2021, 05:41:42 PM
Post by: Pat B on August 29, 2021, 06:59:12 PM
I hope Mark is hunkered down and OK. I don't know where in Mississippi he is compared to Ida but it looks pretty bad down there. :pray:
Post by: kennym on August 29, 2021, 07:14:42 PM
Ida looks pretty rough, saying gonna be 150 mph winds
Post by: Mad Max on August 29, 2021, 07:49:33 PM
I had my shots back in March
Your good and Heathy Shredd, couple more weeks you should be lots better :thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on August 29, 2021, 07:53:59 PM
All that down time must be making you crazy :tongue:
Post by: Crooked Stic on August 29, 2021, 09:09:36 PM
Got me something that will be fun and get a deer out also.
Thinking my Jeep and golf cart had relations and this is the result :dunno: :bigsmyl:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGWDxvr.jpg)
Post by: Longcruise on August 29, 2021, 10:09:58 PM
Won't be long now and there will be a steady parade of those on trailers heading into the mountains. Very popular with a large segment of the hunting community.
Deer and elk open next Thursday. Been doing a lot of scouting. Finally found promising elk sign last Friday.
Post by: Buemaker on August 30, 2021, 12:07:46 PM
Post by: Shredd on August 30, 2021, 12:27:54 PM
I paint outside too, Bue... My favorite time is early morning, when everything is still wet with dew or right after a rain, where it washes all the dust from the air...
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 30, 2021, 12:56:24 PM
Post by: Flem on August 30, 2021, 01:57:53 PM
Post by: kennym on August 30, 2021, 03:31:29 PM
I started fixin on a TD that I broke a shop string on and it split down from the nock a bit...
Post by: Bvas on August 30, 2021, 06:19:39 PM
Do you glue your bezels to the limbs?
Post by: Buemaker on August 31, 2021, 04:28:53 AM
Post by: Mad Max on August 31, 2021, 10:00:00 AM
I have looked for Bezels/bushings like that here but could not find them.
Post by: Pat B on September 01, 2021, 07:51:58 AM
We came through with about 4" of rain, a little wind and no power outage. Hope everyone else fared as well.
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 01, 2021, 08:26:27 AM
Basement and garage both bone dry..
Thanks for asking, Pat.
Hope everyone else is ok.
Maxi how you making out??
Post by: Mad Max on September 01, 2021, 09:26:52 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Pat B on September 01, 2021, 09:33:01 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 01, 2021, 09:35:48 AM
Post by: Mad Max on September 02, 2021, 08:21:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UiimG7E.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Cm3Y6Yg.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on September 02, 2021, 10:46:11 PM
Post by: Flem on September 02, 2021, 11:00:38 PM
Bet you can get some leverage with that!
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 03, 2021, 03:40:07 AM
Post by: Mad Max on September 03, 2021, 07:09:19 AM
Thats a sweet scraper :thumbsup: Must have been a gift, unless you autograph all your stuff.
Bet you can get some leverage with that!
One of my buddy's laser burned it for me :bigsmyl:
Post by: Buemaker on September 03, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Post by: kennym on September 05, 2021, 10:40:15 AM
Post by: Mad Max on September 05, 2021, 11:01:56 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 05, 2021, 11:09:12 AM
Did nt happen wif out pictures :tongue:
Dats dah rules...
Post by: kennym on September 05, 2021, 11:20:22 AM
So I guess that part di’nt happen ....
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 05, 2021, 11:22:03 AM
Post by: kennym on September 05, 2021, 11:38:52 AM
Post by: Bvas on September 05, 2021, 11:57:49 AM
You’re gonna have to wait for braced and full draw pics. Raining today.
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Post by: kennym on September 05, 2021, 12:17:39 PM
Post by: Mad Max on September 05, 2021, 12:31:19 PM
Nice job Brad, looks great! :thumbsup:
Really nice
Post by: kennym on September 05, 2021, 01:32:54 PM
Now I glued a glass overlay on over the split , tapered the end for ease of sanding.
Then a phenolic overlay which is pretty short but will be small tips , who likes big tips anyway ?? LOL
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Post by: Shredd on September 05, 2021, 01:56:53 PM
Sorry to hear Kenny... Just threw away a string the other day... The loop was pretty worn...
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 05, 2021, 02:08:13 PM
Looks good Kenny...
Post by: Mad Max on September 05, 2021, 02:57:25 PM
Lookin real good Brad
Post by: Bvas on September 05, 2021, 03:06:20 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on September 05, 2021, 04:18:35 PM
Post by: Shredd on September 05, 2021, 04:33:54 PM
Post by: kennym on September 05, 2021, 04:52:11 PM
Now a riser that was scrapped for some reason , recut the pad angles to give the limbs more preload . Note the plastic wrap , the pin didn’t quite line the limb up right so I draped the plastic over pin and put a couple drops of CA in the hole on limb . Bolted up and lined up limb. Figured I’d have a one piece but worked slick. Came right off and the plastic left just right amount of room to get limb slipped back on...
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Post by: Bvas on September 05, 2021, 04:56:20 PM
Looks like yah got a winner... Do you like how she shoots??Handles very nice. Very stable and quiet.
Seems fairly quick, but that may just be new bow syndrome. :biglaugh:
Might get the chrony out tomorrow and see what the numbers are.
Hopefully I can get my buddy to bring the prototype over to see if the changes I made improved the bow any b
Post by: B-JS on September 06, 2021, 08:24:12 AM
Kept it pure an simple.
Micarta Riser, Carbon limbs with Ash cores.
Nothing else.
Post by: Mad Max on September 06, 2021, 08:42:38 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 06, 2021, 09:04:49 AM
Post by: Flem on September 06, 2021, 10:26:02 AM
Bends nice!!
No kidding :thumbsup: That looks really well proportioned, riser to limb length. Some 3 piece bows look stumpy, with massive risers and stubby limbs.
Post by: B-JS on September 06, 2021, 10:33:14 AM
who's carbon are you using? :thumbsup:
Mine! I paid for IT.
It's from China. On Belly, i use IT Just Up to 40#.
Bows 40#+ i build with Carbon Back and Glass at the Belly.
Post by: Bvas on September 06, 2021, 11:05:55 AM
Post by: Bvas on September 06, 2021, 11:16:13 AM
Bow is 50.5# @ 28”
62” bow with 14” riser. Fade to fade is 24”. String grooves are 1-7/8” ahead of back of bow.
With 10gpp arrow I’m getting around 176fps. (With silencers, finger release and B55 string)
My 600gr hunting arrows fly nice and quiet and still hit about 168fps.
Not my fastest build. But probably the nicest shooting.
Post by: Flem on September 06, 2021, 01:34:15 PM
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Post by: Shredd on September 06, 2021, 01:44:37 PM
Kenny your giving away all your secrets... :)
Flem, why window screening instead of just plain glass??
Post by: Mad Max on September 06, 2021, 02:00:25 PM
who's carbon are you using? :thumbsup:
Mine! I paid for IT.
It's from China. On Belly, i use IT Just Up to 40#.
Bows 40#+ i build with Carbon Back and Glass at the Belly.
I meant who did you buy it from :bigsmyl:
Post by: B-JS on September 06, 2021, 02:32:03 PM
Post by: Flem on September 06, 2021, 03:05:45 PM
I say could, because I really have no idea if it will have the desired effect I'm looking for.. But hey, if you get an idea, might as well go for it!
Post by: Mad Max on September 06, 2021, 04:40:56 PM
Mark Tom (on Facebook)
:thumbsup:
Post by: Bvas on September 06, 2021, 05:16:02 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on September 06, 2021, 08:46:41 PM
Post by: Bvas on September 06, 2021, 09:00:33 PM
??? What is that:biglaugh: :biglaugh: The spit of about 1/2 million girls. Or more commonly known as honey.
Post by: mmattockx on September 06, 2021, 09:33:28 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/qXeLwvC.jpg)
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on September 07, 2021, 09:42:54 AM
How many lams are you going for?
Post by: mmattockx on September 07, 2021, 09:50:09 AM
You have some narrow tips there :thumbsup:
How many lams are you going for?
Finished width on the tips will be 5/16" and they are a bit less than 3.5" long. There are 3 lams in the stack, with an extra under the grip area to help keep the grips pieces on.
Mark
Post by: zhangkeyang on September 07, 2021, 10:07:11 AM
Please forgive my stupidity,I mostly use Google Translate to communicate :)
Post by: Mad Max on September 07, 2021, 10:59:49 AM
:thumbsup: horn sinew bow
Post by: zhangkeyang on September 07, 2021, 11:20:14 AM
36” NTN 45#@23”. ?
:thumbsup: horn sinew bow
:laughing:
yes! 36” NTN 45#@23”
Post by: Pat B on September 07, 2021, 12:03:38 PM
Post by: Mad Max on September 07, 2021, 12:08:22 PM
Very cool little horn/sinew bow. :thumbsup:
Yes :bigsmyl:
Show us more when you get finished.
Braced and full draw :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 07, 2021, 01:59:05 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: B-JS on September 07, 2021, 02:09:25 PM
And Shot one Arrow to much....
So ... One Arrow less in my quiver. :archer2:
https://youtu.be/zbhK9t4-Aqg
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 07, 2021, 08:13:20 PM
Pretty sure no more risers here that dont have ibeams in them from now on. For TDs for sure.
This one was gonna be mid 40s so not too much strain.
(https://i.imgur.com/Ypka9v8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AreM4qU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/R96cBjG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HzHGPY4.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on September 07, 2021, 08:39:15 PM
Was that Hard rock maple?
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 07, 2021, 08:47:45 PM
Post by: Sologuy on September 08, 2021, 06:17:44 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 08, 2021, 06:50:40 PM
Post by: mmattockx on September 08, 2021, 09:28:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/raOt3Sl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/T4ydU1P.jpg)
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 12, 2021, 09:41:11 AM
View from deck and kitchen table.
Two dogs are being so good and adapting well.
So many new scents for them to sniff.
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Post by: Mad Max on September 12, 2021, 10:06:26 AM
Post by: mmattockx on September 12, 2021, 10:41:42 AM
First weekend at new camp on the side of a mountain ridge.
Very nice. Where is this located (roughly)?
Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 12, 2021, 11:04:37 AM
North West Pa.
Post by: Pat B on September 12, 2021, 11:44:52 AM
I'm happy you you and your wife. Nothing better than cool, mountain air. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 12, 2021, 12:50:50 PM
Fit perfectly Pat
Just cut the foot high grass and weed whacked.
Miller time and loving the view.
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Post by: Pat B on September 12, 2021, 04:22:22 PM
Post by: Shredd on September 12, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
Post by: Buemaker on September 12, 2021, 05:06:08 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 12, 2021, 05:48:10 PM
Post by: Bvas on September 12, 2021, 06:02:39 PM
Post by: zhangkeyang on September 13, 2021, 06:26:25 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 13, 2021, 09:22:29 AM
It doesn't show in the first picture but this ground is very steep but chirty, with a little ground cover the soil doesn't wash away with a good rain. The trail cam picture shows the actual slope.
Post by: Pat B on September 13, 2021, 09:36:27 AM
Eric, you'll have to post your seed shaker on the "redneck inventions" thread.
Post by: kennym on September 13, 2021, 11:20:56 AM
Plot looks good Eric, mine is so dry the stuff the deer haven't hogged up is dyin.
Post by: cocie on September 13, 2021, 11:54:30 AM
Roughly cleand it from glue and need more sanding to 1.5" width... It will be 66"...
You all know this design and hope you like it.. zebrano, maple, eucalyptus and swamp ash for belly.. ash turned little more yellow then I expected..
Greetings from Croatia!!
:wavey:
Post by: Mad Max on September 13, 2021, 12:47:12 PM
Nice so far, keep posting pictures as you go :thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on September 13, 2021, 03:13:17 PM
Post by: Bvas on September 13, 2021, 11:02:39 PM
I’m a big fan of simple edge grain wood as veneers :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on September 14, 2021, 10:26:17 AM
Post by: Flem on September 14, 2021, 12:10:43 PM
I think it is so cool that we have Bowyers from all over the world. Norway, China, Turkey, Brazil, Canada and now Croatia!
It's awsome!
Sorry if I forgot anybody
Post by: Pat B on September 14, 2021, 12:33:50 PM
Yesterday Marcia and I went to the State Farmers Market and got 2, 25# boxes of Roma tomatoes, bell peppers, onions and garlic. These 25# boxes of tomatoes cost $15 each. A few years ago when we started doing this each box cost $7. Even at $15 per box it is well worth it.
(https://i.imgur.com/zUKOc9C.jpg)
Today I started processing the first box of tomatoes by dropping them in boiling water to loosen the skins...(https://i.imgur.com/i2f2JiD.jpg)
...after a few minutes I remove the tomatoes from the hot water and put them in cold water and start peeling then cut into smaller pieces...
(https://i.imgur.com/kRDnGDG.jpg)
While waiting for the tomatoes I cut up the onions, peppers, garlic in olive oil and start cooking then along with oregano, bay leaves, salt and pepper...
(https://i.imgur.com/23rAoxT.jpg?1)
...then the tomatoes go in and I'll cook them down for a few hours, then let it cool for a few hours and bag it in 1 gallon ziplock baggies for freezing...
(https://i.imgur.com/3Rnnr4z.jpg?1)
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 14, 2021, 02:52:42 PM
Do you need my address?
LOL
:laughing: :thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on September 14, 2021, 02:58:44 PM
looks good :thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on September 15, 2021, 02:13:11 AM
Post by: Pat B on September 15, 2021, 11:05:13 AM
Heading to the kitchen to start the next 25# of tomatoes.
Post by: Buemaker on September 15, 2021, 02:47:38 PM
Post by: Flem on September 15, 2021, 04:31:24 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 15, 2021, 04:39:28 PM
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Post by: wood carver 2 on September 15, 2021, 04:44:27 PM
That sure is a nice place, by the way.
Dave.
Post by: Mad Max on September 15, 2021, 04:57:34 PM
Post by: Pat B on September 15, 2021, 05:12:10 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 15, 2021, 05:38:47 PM
Pat we found our mountain top heaven hide out.
Been a dream of ours for years and it came true.
Brings tears to my eyes sitting on this deck surrounded by mountains and pines Hemlock oak all kinds of trees, rocks, ferns, crows calling all day long.
And cold beer with the smell of hot sausage pepper onion garlic and tomatoes in the crock pot.
Got a big bottle of Asti wine on ice for tonight.
Yup I'm at peace with nature right now.
Post by: Flem on September 15, 2021, 06:38:18 PM
Post by: kennym on September 15, 2021, 08:17:54 PM
Post by: Buemaker on September 16, 2021, 03:11:53 AM
Post by: Mad Max on September 16, 2021, 09:31:08 AM
Get it---Miller high life :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 16, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Too many make you lite in da head. Loose brain cells = Roy :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 16, 2021, 10:12:02 AM
I wonder if everybody the uses sealers, realize that it is to be used as a guide coat like auto primer.exactly flem. JF
Post by: Pat B on September 16, 2021, 01:59:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/m8DKZRH.jpg)
Post by: Flem on September 16, 2021, 08:51:37 PM
Post by: Pat B on September 16, 2021, 10:49:12 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on September 17, 2021, 10:40:33 AM
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on September 17, 2021, 11:45:35 AM
...and this Japanese hornet, aka cicada killer...
(https://i.imgur.com/6HK6KXt.jpg)
Post by: Flem on September 17, 2021, 09:31:36 PM
Post by: Pat B on September 17, 2021, 10:20:05 PM
They are cute but.....! :nono:
Post by: Bvas on September 18, 2021, 12:07:13 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 18, 2021, 06:47:03 AM
Post by: Pat B on September 18, 2021, 08:19:24 AM
Post by: Flem on September 18, 2021, 08:33:20 PM
If these 4 are from the same litter mom must be eating pretty good.
They are cute but.....! :nono:
Are you saying I can't come over to play with the little cuties?
I'm sure Mom wouldn't mind ;)
Post by: cocie on September 19, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
Couldn't wait this weekend to proceed with my bow.. On saturday I made both sides even to 1.5" wide.. Found perfect center and cut limbs.. Today I was shaping limbs and tips.. Still need a lot of sanding, progress in pics.. Next is riser...
Early afternoon ( with tear in my eye ) I needed to close my shop for today... :)
Stay well!
:wavey:
Post by: Mad Max on September 19, 2021, 01:57:07 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 19, 2021, 02:05:37 PM
Nice
Post by: kennym on September 19, 2021, 02:55:19 PM
Post by: cocie on September 19, 2021, 03:10:45 PM
Post by: Shredd on September 19, 2021, 04:03:30 PM
Post by: Flem on September 19, 2021, 06:23:23 PM
Be sure to post some more pics.
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 19, 2021, 08:44:52 PM
I posted awhile back some pics of a riser that broke. I have the replacement going now with accent ibeam and backed with glass.
(https://i.imgur.com/H3w1zio.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/k2sX5EE.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on September 19, 2021, 09:53:38 PM
Lets see a side view
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 20, 2021, 04:20:42 AM
Post by: Flem on September 20, 2021, 05:49:25 PM
Post by: Mad Max on September 21, 2021, 08:23:47 PM
I asked to see what this looked like after finished and you to me to be patient, well I'm still waiting.
From the bow trade
(https://i.imgur.com/kMk0ANv.jpg)
Post by: Shredd on September 21, 2021, 08:36:48 PM
Post by: Mad Max on September 21, 2021, 10:33:52 PM
Post by: Flem on September 22, 2021, 01:14:19 AM
"I asked to see what this looked like after finished and you to me to be patient, well I'm still waiting."
Is this some kind of code? As it stands, it's indecipherable
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 22, 2021, 04:48:50 AM
Be patient, someday I might finish it:)
But right now I's gotta go feed dah chickens:)
:laughing: :laughing: :wavey:
Post by: Mad Max on September 22, 2021, 08:02:07 AM
Chicken boy :bigsmyl:
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 22, 2021, 09:41:38 AM
Post by: kennym on September 22, 2021, 10:08:38 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 22, 2021, 12:45:58 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 22, 2021, 02:29:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/so1M4sQ.jpg)
Post by: cocie on September 26, 2021, 01:37:27 PM
I was sanding a little bit today and I stopped with 120 grit... still a lot to go... and could not wait to try to fire some arrows ... hope you like it :)
:wavey:
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 26, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
Post by: Buemaker on September 28, 2021, 09:09:11 AM
Post by: Mad Max on September 28, 2021, 09:30:44 AM
Nice work :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/6VbOlkH.jpg)
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 28, 2021, 10:13:55 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 29, 2021, 05:22:17 AM
You can still shape it like that or add a piece of leather there which you would anyway.
Bow looks real nice and good shooting.
Post by: cocie on September 29, 2021, 05:37:16 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 29, 2021, 06:28:26 AM
Good link for setup and tuning...
https://www.fenderarchery.com/blogs/archery-info/basic-tuning
Post by: mmattockx on September 29, 2021, 12:52:18 PM
Got the second Perry reflex lam bow experiment onto the tillering tree and bending to 20". I had to rough out the handle area to get it to fit on my tree and I took inspiration from a thread by JGR1269 from a few years ago. He drills his riser to form the radius where the shelf meets the upright side of the riser window and to form the crotch of the grip at the pivot point. That looked way better to me than free handing those, so I figured I would try it.
His thread: https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=153887.msg2662219#msg2662219
The riser work is shown in posts #57 & 58.
The grip after being drilled. I left material in the center of the pivot point area so the bow would sit flat on my tree.
(https://i.imgur.com/qDUKpXS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bBdYJyp.jpg)
The grip roughed out close to it's finished width. The new bandsaw cut over 2.5" of red oak dead straight and square to the table. I'm very happy with that performance using a well worn blade.
(https://i.imgur.com/h958JNB.jpg)
On the tree at a bit over 20" draw (due to the grip area still being oversized a bit). It's showing 35lb at this point, so it is going to end up closer to 50lb @ 28" than I was expecting. Target weight was 45#, so a bit of sanding may be in order at the end.
(https://i.imgur.com/RnhcSlO.jpg)
Mark
Post by: Mad Max on September 29, 2021, 03:21:51 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 29, 2021, 04:10:29 PM
Post by: kennym on September 29, 2021, 09:53:55 PM
I replaced my outside shop door today, and rehung the one to the back room. Finger jointed brick molding is a joke... :biglaugh:
My list is getting close to done , so bowhunting is about to get real... :thumbsup:
Post by: B-JS on September 30, 2021, 09:04:20 AM
Post by: Buemaker on September 30, 2021, 09:12:49 AM
Post by: Mad Max on September 30, 2021, 09:28:35 AM
Post by: B-JS on September 30, 2021, 09:33:29 AM
In Germany, it's called "Wenge" in the Riser and Palisander in the Limbs.
The Wenge is Not typical.
Normaly, it's just a pretty dark Brown with less "Life" in it.
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 30, 2021, 09:59:11 AM
Post by: willi on September 30, 2021, 04:28:03 PM
Hi Mark,
(https://i.imgur.com/RnhcSlO.jpg)
Mark
tiller looks spot on.
Looking back to first stage glue up pic on 8/23 and second stage pic on 8/28, I notice the with the first, you put more bend into it.
The first glue up is belly and core, (with the belly lam in deflex)?
The second glue up you reversed the bend before adding the backing?
All three lams red oak?
Post by: Shredd on September 30, 2021, 05:26:34 PM
Post by: mmattockx on October 01, 2021, 11:02:08 AM
The first glue up is belly and core, (with the belly lam in deflex)?
The second glue up you reversed the bend before adding the backing?
All three lams red oak?
Yes, yes and yes. The first glue up is belly and core lams, with ~6" of deflex (going from memory, would have to check for the exact amount). Second is back lam onto the first assembly with ~2.5" of reflex. All 3 lams are red oak, from two different boards. I used red oak for this because it is a workable bow wood and cheap, just to see if it worked at all. It is also fairly tension strong and compression weak, so I figured it would really show any effects from the strain reduction on the belly.
Got it worked out to just under 28" last night:
(https://i.imgur.com/dFHOxfr.jpg)
It looks pretty good in the funky lighting in my shop. Now that I know it will survive being drawn to 28" I can work on the grip and get it to where I can take some shots. It showed some set after being unstrung, but I didn't try to measure it yet. Will get the grip and nocks finished to shape and then see how it does after some shooting. It is showing 51lb @ 28" right now, so I will also go over the limbs and round all the edges some more to take a bit off of it.
Once I have it shooting I will update my lam bow experiment thread with the details and results of this bow.
Mark
Post by: Flem on October 01, 2021, 11:18:30 AM
Curious to see how much reflex get pulled out. Hope you have better luck with the Perry reflex, than I did.
Post by: mmattockx on October 01, 2021, 03:00:18 PM
Looks good! Maybe just a little bit stiff on the left side, about 2/3 out from the handle.
Curious to see how much reflex get pulled out. Hope you have better luck with the Perry reflex, than I did.
I agree on the slightly stiff part on the left limb. That is the bottom limb, so I am going to leave it and see how it bends in the hand before I do anything. It might just need a couple extra passes with 80 grit on a sanding block to even up nicely.
After glue up I only had about 7/16" of reflex at the nocks. Drawing it out to 20" had removed most of that. I don't know how much set there was immediately after unstringing it last night, but at a guess would say maybe 3/4" or so.
What was your experience with Perry reflex?
Mark
Post by: Flem on October 02, 2021, 09:04:35 AM
It would be interesting to shoot one that has all the correct attributes. It did not feel very smooth shooting to me, but once again, mine was not ideal.
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 02, 2021, 06:58:35 PM
So after Monday I will be down with hernia repair recoup.
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Post by: wood carver 2 on October 02, 2021, 09:29:26 PM
I hope you recover quickly from your surgery.
I took the swap bow that you made for me out to my friend’s place last week. That bow is a sweet shooter. I strung up the bow next to my buddies house and the nearest target was about 40 or 45 yards away. I had just heard that one of my best friends from Ohio had passed away from cancer and I was feeling pretty bad, but my friend and I both wanted to honor our friend who was a traditional archer, hunter and mentor to a lot of young hunters. He was also an awesome turkey caller.
I said to myself this first arrow is for you bud. Thankfully, I made the shot.
I can shoot that bow all day and not get tired.
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 03, 2021, 04:41:54 AM
Is the hernia an upper or lower?
I had a lower hernia and it was a painful long recovery.
Wish you the best.
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 03, 2021, 07:33:07 AM
Post by: Flem on October 03, 2021, 10:14:42 AM
Something you will not be doing after surgery, is moving a Kiln, like the one I scored yesterday! FREE
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Its a beast and takes up more room than I wanted to spare, but I have so many uses for it. Got some exotic steels I need to harden, powder coat rims to bake, need to fire some bricks and maybe I'll make some ceramics!
First thing I am going to do is gut out the archaic controls and rig it up with solid state relays and a PID controller.
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Post by: Mad Max on October 03, 2021, 10:33:30 AM
I did pottery on a wheel in high school, I still have about 30 pots I made
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 03, 2021, 11:49:59 AM
Pottery Maxi?
LOL
Post by: kennym on October 03, 2021, 11:53:23 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 03, 2021, 12:32:04 PM
:laughing:
Post by: Flem on October 03, 2021, 01:51:51 PM
I never did any wheel pottery, but I did do some clay sculpting in high school. It was fun as I recall, or maybe it was all the squaws in the class that made it so appealing. ;)
Post by: Mad Max on October 03, 2021, 02:11:05 PM
My teacher fell on the ice and broke her hip, so when the sub showed up I wet over to the potters wheel and dude taught me how to do it, when my teacher got back mounts later she said you don't belong over there, I said look look.
Me and dude were the only ones in the 4 years doing it and me mostly. He and I were big buddy's for many years.
It's not easy to do, your hands are the main tools.
Cool stuff Roy, also you can make big bucks too.
All of my girl friends over the years wanted one .
1 of my pots went to New York for a art show, that was a big deal.
Also you could make your own Bong ;)
I will get a picture up later.
Post by: Flem on October 03, 2021, 03:17:34 PM
To all of that!
It paid to be, or at least tried to be artistic, back in the 70's. Those crafty hippy girls were very welcoming and fun!
Post by: Flem on October 03, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
I was going for a ragged/jagged look. Like imbedded barbed wire would have been perfect. But not a layered look like some of the stacked layered G-10 or Micartas. More like the depth you would get from tooling leather.
So this is layers of black window screen mesh with plain aluminum screen mesh in-between some of the layers. I think it will look good as scales or grips. Might look good as tip overlay, but I have not figured out what the rest of the bow would look like. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 03, 2021, 07:40:57 PM
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Thought the carbon fiber guy's might like it. They call it "designer reinforcement" and they are not giving it away :o
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 05, 2021, 07:12:40 AM
Yesterday was not good. Had my hernia repaired. I ended up back in the ER with nausea from bad reaction by the pain pill or the stuff they made me sleep with.
Had to get the tube inserted to pee :scared: quite a bit better this morning and hoping it will continue that way.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 05, 2021, 07:43:14 AM
Post by: Flem on October 05, 2021, 08:38:13 AM
Post by: mmattockx on October 05, 2021, 12:24:46 PM
quite a bit better this morning and hoping it will continue that way.
Fingers crossed it keeps improving for you.
Hate those things, I always feel bad for people that are addicted to those damn pills. Thats a horrible way to live.
Except the addicts feel better from the drugs, not worse. Struggling with an addiction is a tough, tough thing to have to deal with.
Mark
Post by: Shredd on October 05, 2021, 10:23:02 PM
Post by: Buemaker on October 06, 2021, 01:19:45 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 06, 2021, 07:03:36 AM
Post by: Mad Max on October 06, 2021, 08:26:11 AM
Ya the girls....
:laughing:
Here you go Roy
Lots of men on here
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 06, 2021, 09:16:24 AM
Post by: Flem on October 06, 2021, 09:31:35 AM
I swore I would not take up any more hobbies or projects, but I really have a hankering to make some stuff out of clay and fire it! :help:
Post by: Pat B on October 06, 2021, 09:38:17 AM
I can't take codeine or other opium bases pain killers without getting sick. I'd rather hurt a little than hurt and throw up because of the medication. If I really need pain relief I take Ibuprofen.
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 06, 2021, 11:39:11 AM
Post by: Pat B on October 06, 2021, 11:48:01 AM
If you hit your thumb with a hammer you won't feel your other pain for a while. :thumbsup: :knothead:
Post by: Mad Max on October 06, 2021, 02:17:14 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 06, 2021, 02:37:39 PM
What's all the trophy's from?
Post by: Mad Max on October 06, 2021, 02:48:09 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 06, 2021, 03:23:31 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 06, 2021, 05:45:32 PM
Post by: Flem on October 06, 2021, 11:15:55 PM
I'm so sad now, there is no BBQ here.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 07, 2021, 04:04:57 AM
:laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on October 07, 2021, 09:28:03 AM
Wow! Thats an impressive range of size and style. I don't think I have the patience to achieve that level of skill and I know I don't have the natural talent either :jumper:
I'm so sad now, there is no BBQ here.
I start out with a big piece of clay and somewhere in the prosses I mess up, so the piece of clay is smaller, so I make a smaller pot. :tongue:
In machine shop I made a 4" long pipe, you know to smoke tobacco, the shop teacher caught me on the Lathe with it. I was thinking I'm in trouble now, he said you get a grade on that, let me see it. True story
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 07, 2021, 08:27:40 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 08, 2021, 07:33:09 AM
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Post by: wood carver 2 on October 08, 2021, 07:51:39 AM
Dave.
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 08, 2021, 08:50:28 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 08, 2021, 08:53:13 AM
Some trees are changing now.
Post by: Flem on October 08, 2021, 09:01:15 AM
Someday I will head back east to see all that.
"In machine shop I made a 4" long pipe, you know to smoke tobacco, the shop teacher caught me on the Lathe with it. I was thing I'm in trouble now, he said you get a grade on that, let me see it. True story"
Those were the days.............. :bigsmyl:
Post by: Mad Max on October 08, 2021, 09:08:33 AM
Roy show us a picture when the leaves turn color
Post by: Bob D on October 08, 2021, 04:07:12 PM
The color is at peak or slightly gone by in some places. I really like it up here. This is big woods country. This pic is about 15 miles south of Canada. Lots of moose and grouse but not many deer.
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Post by: mmattockx on October 08, 2021, 04:50:57 PM
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From a couple weeks ago. I got two big lodgepole pine logs cut into slabs and racked to dry. Next summer they will become my new woodshop work bench if they are dry enough.
(https://i.imgur.com/vCVRDd0.jpg)
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Mark
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 08, 2021, 05:04:32 PM
Great pictures guys.
We took a 5 hour 150 mile road trip today farther north.
Nothing but mountains lakes trees streams and rivers.
Trees need a good frost here, been too warm lately.
Loving our new camp.
Post by: Mad Max on October 08, 2021, 11:19:06 PM
Nice pictures guy's
Post by: Pat B on October 09, 2021, 09:45:25 AM
Here are a few pics from home this morning. A bit too hazy and bright to see much color. Many of the poplars, maples and cherries have lost their leaves but the oaks are still green and showing little other color.(https://i.imgur.com/QrffMhC.jpg)
...this color is a sourwood. They usually change color way earlier than any other trees.
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...looking at the hill to the south of us.
Post by: Mad Max on October 09, 2021, 09:58:50 AM
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Post by: Buemaker on October 09, 2021, 10:19:53 AM
Post by: Buemaker on October 09, 2021, 10:24:32 AM
Post by: Flem on October 09, 2021, 11:55:01 AM
This is my fall color. One young Maple tree, not native!
Oh and a cute little Buck can just be seen in the background, having a snack in the garden. We just open it up at the end of the season, that or the critters will start busting down the gates
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 09, 2021, 12:20:37 PM
Flem close the gate and keep him...
Rainy day here on the mountain, have a load of wood coming at 1.
After that we'll probably take the girls for a walk.
Post by: kennym on October 09, 2021, 01:38:30 PM
Post by: Bob D on October 09, 2021, 02:14:23 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 10, 2021, 10:42:04 AM
Post by: kennym on October 10, 2021, 11:15:56 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 10, 2021, 11:20:38 AM
Post by: kennym on October 10, 2021, 11:22:19 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 10, 2021, 11:25:42 AM
Post by: Pat B on October 10, 2021, 11:45:17 AM
Roy, looks like your girls are enjoying their new digs and obviously patiently awaiting their walk.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 10, 2021, 12:03:31 PM
I did a search and found black gum that looked very similar but dogwood trees are pretty.
Yes the girls are doing great, cept we pulled 2 ticks off the white one today.
That's to be expected up here.
Post by: wood carver 2 on October 10, 2021, 12:19:53 PM
Maple leaves on our yearly får i kål dinner.Bue, those maple leaves under the candle holders gave me an idea for some Christmas gifts. 😁
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on October 10, 2021, 12:50:58 PM
If you get it, leave the needle in the rubber top and just attach the syringe when needed. A 50ml bottle cost about $40 (before CoVid)but will last 2 or 3 years.
And, don't forget to spray your cloths with Permanone you don't get ticks either. Lyme disease is pretty prevalent up there.
Post by: Pat B on October 10, 2021, 12:56:46 PM
Post by: Flem on October 10, 2021, 05:26:10 PM
Post by: Pat B on October 10, 2021, 05:41:14 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 11, 2021, 05:55:36 AM
We treat the dogs for ticks and heart worm and yes its expensive.
The wife is very particular about the girls.
We spray our boots and clothes with permethrin and it is deadly for ticks.
Post by: Flem on October 11, 2021, 09:43:11 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 11, 2021, 10:11:35 AM
The picture is from one minute ago of a dogwood in my yard.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 12, 2021, 08:50:29 PM
Post by: Buemaker on October 13, 2021, 02:28:22 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 13, 2021, 03:43:17 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 14, 2021, 06:36:24 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 14, 2021, 09:32:52 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 15, 2021, 05:41:13 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 15, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
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Then I got to thinking about a small walnut tree I cut out of a deer trail down in the woods near my food plot. It had been on the ground for at least 20 years, all the bark and sapwood was gone but the trunk was solid and as hard as a rock. It dulled my chainsaw cutting it.
I cut out a chunk from the trunk and squared it up on my bandsaw to put in my lathe, nice stuff.
(https://i.imgur.com/loQwic2.jpg)
I turned a quickie carving mallet from the block to see if I could, it came out nice considering I only invested about 15 minutes of time in it.
(https://i.imgur.com/rsUBaYi.jpg)
I only have a small hobby lathe but it is great for turning file handles, mallets or any other nick-knack I think of.
(https://i.imgur.com/P2blbSF.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 15, 2021, 09:50:15 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 15, 2021, 10:13:29 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 15, 2021, 10:23:33 AM
Post by: mmattockx on October 15, 2021, 12:08:48 PM
Yesterday I picked up ~130bd.ft. of alder 4/4 boards. Our new place has alder kitchen cabinets and the cabinet guy wanted nearly $1000 to put a matching alder cap on a half wall in the living room. I found this load in our local Kijiji classifieds (our version of Craigslist) for $675. I will do the cap myself and have a pile of nice wood left over to make some shelving and maybe small pieces of furniture from and still be ahead $300 over the cost of the cap alone.
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Mark
Post by: Flem on October 15, 2021, 01:54:52 PM
How much do you guess they will weigh when dry?
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 15, 2021, 03:01:00 PM
For carving chisel work you don't need much weight, that kind of work is a finesse kind of thing.
Post by: Shredd on October 15, 2021, 06:15:44 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on October 15, 2021, 08:31:58 PM
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Post by: kennym on October 15, 2021, 09:59:23 PM
Mike, aren't you sposed to be takin it easy man??
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 16, 2021, 10:18:14 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on October 17, 2021, 05:50:45 PM
Post by: Flem on October 17, 2021, 07:06:22 PM
Whats the snow line at?
Post by: Mad Max on October 17, 2021, 07:58:44 PM
Post by: Shredd on October 17, 2021, 10:30:22 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 18, 2021, 05:25:21 AM
Best of luck Mike.
At camp again enjoying the fall colors.
Post by: Pat B on October 18, 2021, 09:41:34 AM
Roy, what's the weather like up there? We finally hit 33 degrees this morning but still no frost. Many or our trees have lost their leaves but the oaks are still green. We need a frost or hard freeze before they will turn red.
Post by: Mad Max on October 18, 2021, 09:48:51 AM
Looking good guys.
Best of luck Mike.
At camp again enjoying the fall colors.
Picture Roy
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 18, 2021, 10:42:01 AM
Post by: kennym on October 18, 2021, 10:42:34 AM
Roy - you gonna have to call that home and home camp if you keep this up... :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 18, 2021, 10:52:00 AM
Kinzu dam, 25 miles long and 100 miles of shoreline.
Post by: Flem on October 18, 2021, 02:32:50 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 18, 2021, 07:33:50 PM
The colors have a long way to go yet but there are a good many leaves falling.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 19, 2021, 06:48:59 AM
Guess we will have to stay a few more days, Oh darn:)
Post by: kennym on October 19, 2021, 07:49:50 AM
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Post by: OldRawhide42 on October 20, 2021, 07:13:35 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 21, 2021, 06:35:04 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on October 23, 2021, 09:16:03 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 23, 2021, 10:02:55 AM
She came out of the same mold Renee did:)
Post by: kennym on October 23, 2021, 10:37:21 AM
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Post by: Flem on October 25, 2021, 05:05:39 PM
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I don't think many here have this issue, but if you live in a dry climate static buildup is a real problem and it's really bad in the winter. My hope is that grounding the frame of the machine I am working with, will help discharge the buildup.
I plan on using some spare jumper cables for the connections.
Also had some visitors today. They were just standing there watching Bert (dog) digging a hole!
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Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 25, 2021, 05:25:11 PM
Well when I got home I decided to trim up my hackberry veneers from Kenny. Just headed knock off a quarter inch to make my longbows. I got rid of the ugly side, lol it wasn't much ugly about this just had to choose the better or the worst to get rid of. JF
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Post by: Shredd on October 25, 2021, 05:41:41 PM
Example, the Gizmo... It is such a important tool that you will probably never forget what it's used for but I am going to use it as an example anyway... I would pick up the gizmo and look at it for a good 5 minutes or so and say to myself I know this little thing has a valuable use... Now what the hell did I stick a pencil in a piece of wood for?? You dare not throw it away... And when you finally need it, you figure out what it was used for and now you can't figure out where you put the damn thing so you make another one... The process never ends... :laughing:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 25, 2021, 05:45:10 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 25, 2021, 06:29:22 PM
Just ask ole KennyM...
:laughing:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 25, 2021, 06:31:10 PM
Post by: mmattockx on October 25, 2021, 07:27:25 PM
Here is my project today. Install a grounding rod in my shop.
Please get back to us on how it works. I have the same low humidity problem as you and static is a killer in winter. If a grounding rod sorts it for you I will look at putting one in my shop.
Hey out There... Do you guys label your jigs?? I have got so many jigs that I forget what they are used for... So I started labeling them...
I am getting to that point already. Can't imagine what the jig pile looks like in your shop after years of doing this. Do you have a good system for the labelling? I have thought about it once or twice and don't mind learning from the experience of others.
Mark
Post by: Flem on October 25, 2021, 08:40:48 PM
Post by: Shredd on October 25, 2021, 11:18:20 PM
mattock... I just write on them with a pencil or marker...
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Roy :laughing:
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Post by: Flem on October 29, 2021, 03:54:41 PM
Tried it today on my worst offending tool, grinding plastic, which is a nightmare for static and....... no shocks!
And with the jumper cables, I think this qualifies as Redneck
Post by: Mad Max on October 29, 2021, 04:08:24 PM
Why don't you make one for us?
Post by: Flem on October 29, 2021, 06:28:22 PM
Post by: flyonline on October 30, 2021, 01:50:06 AM
Chased a ring on the belly split off a nice osage stave, this is the first time I've been able to successfully split a belly stave off - every other time it wanders off into the good wood or back into thin air. Once I'd cleaned 'er up a bit I'm left with a stave 74" in length and at it's thinnest it's 28mm or 1-1/8" wide, though this portion will probably end up in the mid/outer limb depending on layout. A couple of big knots to deal with, and one knot on the side. I've also got a split that goes from the back at 45deg and out the side and runs about 4-5" in from the tip of the stave (bottom in the photo). I would like to keep this end as long as possible so I don't have to deal with the bigger top knot, will wicking it with CA be enough? I don't have any issue binding it with thread etc. but I can't do that until it's pretty well finished. It will also deal with the kink in the top of the stave and I may not have to heat treat to get the string through the handle. That's my 64" osage selfbow for comparison.
What thickness should I aim for to start with for something in the order of 66", 50# and probably bendy handle style given the narrow width: 20mm/0.8", 25mm/1" ??
Thanks
Steve
Post by: Pat B on October 30, 2021, 08:56:59 AM
I'd start the thickness at about 5/8" to 3/4" at the fades and tiller it out from there.
Post by: Pat B on October 30, 2021, 10:06:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6qdF1Ij.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YVfw4iv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FlO9YVe.jpg)
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Post by: Pat B on October 30, 2021, 12:04:20 PM
I could see the pack down in the woods so I yelled then saw one of the hunters. He had shot the bear, about 450# to 500# boar. I allowed the hunters to drive through our property to recover the bear. I got a good look at it in the back of their truck, which it filled.
Where the bears trail was picked up is about a 20 minute drive from here but as the crow flies only a mile or two. I didn't have my camera so I didn't get a pic of this big boar.
Post by: Pat B on October 31, 2021, 10:46:27 AM
If this is inappropriate because it is a gun kill, please feel free to delete.
Post by: Flem on October 31, 2021, 11:14:43 AM
So much for fair chase :tongue:
Post by: Pat B on October 31, 2021, 12:10:34 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 01, 2021, 09:13:15 AM
Post by: Pat B on November 01, 2021, 10:03:26 AM
I've got pics on trail cams of a few 350# bears around here and was surprised that this one weighed 540#.
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 02, 2021, 09:38:55 PM
Is 60 in. 45@28 Black green & yellow with aqua limbs
(https://i.imgur.com/ne4RyRu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YQ3ucyP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IufJtUy.jpg)
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 03, 2021, 05:43:01 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2021, 06:55:13 PM
Post by: Flem on November 03, 2021, 07:15:04 PM
let's see a pic of your slicing machine Hillbilly
looks to be working well out of the box :thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on November 03, 2021, 07:21:18 PM
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 04, 2021, 09:17:56 AM
Finally, it all came together yesterday and you know what this means;
Post by: Mad Max on November 04, 2021, 09:52:19 AM
:dunno:
Post by: Buemaker on November 04, 2021, 10:11:54 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 04, 2021, 11:22:47 AM
Think "Daniel Boone".
Post by: Pat B on November 04, 2021, 11:51:05 AM
Post by: Buemaker on November 04, 2021, 01:05:43 PM
Post by: B-JS on November 04, 2021, 04:56:38 PM
Will be done by Sunday evening, i hope.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 04, 2021, 06:48:39 PM
I went shopping today. Morado, Ipe,Jatoba, and Bolivian rosewood.
Post by: Pat B on November 04, 2021, 11:46:28 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 05, 2021, 06:07:19 AM
Don't know if you ever worked with IPE before, but be careful and wear proper protection when working with it.
IPE has messed up more than one person and it really tore me up.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 05, 2021, 06:59:59 AM
Thanks for the warning!
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 05, 2021, 07:47:56 AM
My face looked like I fell in a fire, seen a dermatologist for a couple years after that.
Other guys it doesn't bother them, but some guys are affected by other wood dust.
It's best to protect yourself as much as possible.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 05, 2021, 08:36:44 AM
Post by: Pat B on November 05, 2021, 08:45:44 AM
Post by: Flem on November 05, 2021, 11:19:48 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on November 05, 2021, 01:00:23 PM
Now, I don’t take chances. I bought a powered respirator/ filter and I use it in the shop. I’m also more careful about washing up and changing my clothes after I’m done.
Unfortunately, I’m not allergic to painting walls or laying new flooring. 😕
I’m off to do that now. 😁
Dave.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 05, 2021, 01:50:09 PM
Got talked into spraying a motorcycle for a friend in his makeshift spray booth. Was a last minute deal and I did not have my respirator. "Oh it won't take long "....
Industrial pneumonia and a reaction from the chemicals. Forced air respirator for spraying most auto paints!
I learned my lesson early.
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 05, 2021, 03:04:06 PM
We had to wash everything I wore, all bed sheets and blankets, all towels, etc in free and clear laundry detergent and use free and clear dryer sheets. Free and clear bath soap and shampoo.
That was 10 years ago and all that remains the same today.
IPE really messed up my immune system.
Post by: Flem on November 05, 2021, 03:06:50 PM
I once watched a guy spray laquer on a kitchen worth of cabinets, no mask and then went and had a couple cigs while the first coat dried.
Post by: Mad Max on November 05, 2021, 03:36:51 PM
Post by: Shredd on November 05, 2021, 05:40:19 PM
Sometimes its not the wood that is a direct irritant to you... It could be something you often consume or a drug that changes your body's chemistry and made it more sensitive to certain things... The wood then becomes a trigger to allergic reactions... I had a bad reaction to Cipro antibiotic and it really screwed me up... I am still sensitive to certain things and that was 5 or more years ago... That is a very bad drug and has tons of side effects... Only take it as a last resort...
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 12, 2021, 05:51:58 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 12, 2021, 05:55:15 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 12, 2021, 06:03:25 PM
Post by: mmattockx on November 12, 2021, 06:23:23 PM
Mark
Post by: Flem on November 13, 2021, 09:57:33 AM
Do you crush the Turquoise for your inlays?
Post by: Shredd on November 13, 2021, 10:59:00 AM
Post by: Mark R on November 13, 2021, 12:13:06 PM
Post by: Shredd on November 13, 2021, 12:45:42 PM
That sounds great also... I just started shooting again... I will try to stay steady on my shooting and hope to be somewhat competitive this summer and maybe sell a couple of bows to finance my travel...
:goldtooth: :goldtooth: :goldtooth: :goldtooth: :goldtooth:
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 13, 2021, 01:09:18 PM
I stopped by a mill today and picked up some wood. Ambrosia Maple slab with some quilt in it and a 3" x3"x30" quilted maple block.
I wanted the really quilted piece but it would not fit in the car. Going back with the truck.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 13, 2021, 01:28:29 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 13, 2021, 02:01:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/tm0ra5I.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YGBvR2t.jpg)
Here is some
https://www.amazon.com/Bluejoy-Turquoise-Produced-Southwest-American/dp/B07BHX2L1W?th=1
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 13, 2021, 02:59:15 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 13, 2021, 05:39:30 PM
Post by: Flem on November 15, 2021, 09:01:59 AM
It's supposed to be in the 60's here today, which is really warm for this time of year and unfortunately I have......
Jury Duty :banghead: :banghead:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 15, 2021, 09:15:18 AM
Have they lost their minds?
LOL
:wavey:
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 15, 2021, 09:16:20 AM
Was a good day!
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 15, 2021, 09:33:23 AM
Post by: Pat B on November 15, 2021, 09:57:46 AM
Hillbilly, I consider Mike a good friend. Have known him for about 30 years. My Treadway bow, which I had Mike make for me back in 1999 was the next to the last he made in his old style. I had Mike reduce the weight from 56#@26" to 46#@26" a few years ago. I haven't seen Mike in a couple of years since I haven't been back to the Tenn. Classic for 2 years. Hopefully I'll get to see him again and catch up on stuff next April at the Classic. :thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on November 15, 2021, 11:58:17 AM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 15, 2021, 12:56:44 PM
I plan on making it to Tennessee this year for the first time and maybe to ETAR.
Only known Mike for about 2 years and live pretty local to him. Super nice guy and I have fell in love with his work. I killed my first archery buck this year with one of his 56" Black Forest longbows. Was super excited to take my first archery deer with trad equipment.
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 15, 2021, 01:35:55 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 15, 2021, 02:03:49 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 15, 2021, 02:21:05 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 15, 2021, 02:42:15 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 15, 2021, 03:21:33 PM
Post by: Shredd on November 15, 2021, 03:40:38 PM
Beu, that's a nice looking shop! I like that floor!
Everybody likes his shop... I am surprised the guy even wants to hang out with stick benders like us... :biglaugh:
Nice Jig Bue... I can see how it can help that last inch of lams lay down...
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 15, 2021, 03:45:25 PM
Post by: Pat B on November 15, 2021, 04:00:23 PM
Looking forward to seeing you at the classic next spring.
Post by: Flem on November 15, 2021, 04:28:48 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 15, 2021, 04:33:11 PM
I killed my first trad deer(a doe) with my Treadway, "First Blood, 9/19/99". I wrote that on the bow after the kill and Mike rewrote it back after he reduced the weight and refinished it. Mike is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
Looking forward to seeing you at the classic next spring.
x2 on the classic
Post by: Buemaker on November 15, 2021, 05:23:26 PM
Post by: Pat B on November 17, 2021, 10:56:33 AM
Ironically I made my first bear stew for supper from a bear that was shot by a neighbor a few weeks ago. Pretty yummy!
(https://i.imgur.com/NhHC2FE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0UDdJHQ.jpg)
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 17, 2021, 12:16:03 PM
Post by: Pat B on November 17, 2021, 12:25:22 PM
Our neighbor that is an old bear hunter said they see more bears each year. In Asheville there are 40 bears that reside there in the city. They are tagged and are being studied as urban bears.
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 17, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
Post by: Flem on November 17, 2021, 03:45:51 PM
Discovered another use for my free kiln
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I've never used tempered bamboo lams just because I never had a controlled oven that was big enough.
Plus I like the look of the bamboo, caramelized.
And the people who gave me the kiln, showed up with some shelves, glazes, assorted supplies and a power vent!
I think I need to start some kind of neighborhood Co-op, so other people can use this thing.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on November 17, 2021, 04:07:03 PM
How high is it?
Post by: Pat B on November 17, 2021, 06:04:50 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 17, 2021, 06:13:24 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 17, 2021, 06:44:50 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 17, 2021, 06:47:15 PM
Post by: Longcruise on November 17, 2021, 07:06:53 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 17, 2021, 07:09:33 PM
But this one is all mine 😃
Post by: kennym on November 17, 2021, 08:24:31 PM
I hunted most of the day and when not doin that, I was thinkin about huntin... :laughing:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 17, 2021, 08:25:49 PM
Post by: Flem on November 17, 2021, 10:36:51 PM
Hillbilly, I don't know one from another, but this is a Duncan.
Post by: Buemaker on November 18, 2021, 04:33:38 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 18, 2021, 05:01:24 AM
Very nice Jeff. I replaced my fluorescent lights in the shop with led lights too and did every bulb in the house also.
Ok Flem.
Post by: Buemaker on November 20, 2021, 09:02:36 AM
Post by: Flem on November 20, 2021, 09:25:56 AM
Post by: Buemaker on November 20, 2021, 09:32:53 AM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 20, 2021, 10:29:12 AM
Post by: Flem on November 20, 2021, 10:37:54 AM
Post by: Buemaker on November 20, 2021, 10:58:46 AM
Post by: Flem on November 20, 2021, 11:21:57 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 20, 2021, 02:30:48 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 21, 2021, 08:04:34 AM
Post by: Flem on November 21, 2021, 08:49:58 AM
Post by: Longcruise on November 21, 2021, 04:51:40 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 21, 2021, 04:54:51 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 21, 2021, 05:26:24 PM
Post by: Longcruise on November 21, 2021, 06:38:18 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 22, 2021, 02:34:44 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 22, 2021, 03:17:12 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 22, 2021, 04:11:52 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 22, 2021, 05:55:01 PM
Post by: Buemaker on November 22, 2021, 06:19:42 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 22, 2021, 06:22:30 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 22, 2021, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 22, 2021, 06:27:14 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 22, 2021, 06:56:43 PM
I have Bloodwood, Jatoba, Ipe, Bolivian rosewood and Morado, and some highly figured brazillian cherry.
Post by: kennym on November 22, 2021, 07:26:57 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 22, 2021, 07:32:51 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 23, 2021, 06:50:54 AM
Post by: Buemaker on November 23, 2021, 07:40:15 AM
Post by: Shredd on November 23, 2021, 09:44:58 AM
Nice knife, Billy of the Hill...
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 23, 2021, 09:47:43 AM
Hain't this tool cool...
https://imgur.com/gallery/8yBs805
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 23, 2021, 10:46:07 AM
I have made several pocket quivers, armguards, side quivers etc. Some of those leather guys can do awesome things. Just like bowyers, I appreciate fine craftsmanship in about any venue.
Jeff, that is really cool. I like the turquoise. I had to Google hackberry...we don't have that around here that I know of!
The turquoise and Roy's use of "haint" brings about another idea
I have some wormy curly maple with ambrosia type accents. The worms holes around surrounded by a swirl that looks like a ghost figure.
Oddly enough, several worm holes are double right beside each. Looks like eyes.
Buddy of mine wants me to .are lams out of them and color the eyes red. Call it the "spook bow"
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 23, 2021, 10:51:40 AM
Post by: Flem on November 24, 2021, 09:31:12 AM
You making belts, or just having a belt Roy?
Post by: Pat B on November 24, 2021, 09:49:43 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 24, 2021, 11:29:46 AM
Ya Pat it is cool...
Post by: kennym on November 24, 2021, 12:07:16 PM
Flemmy boy, been 4 days since I had a belt but that's gonna change here soon:)
Chris prob gonna use a belt on yer rear... :laughing: :wavey:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 24, 2021, 12:10:05 PM
Post by: kennym on November 24, 2021, 12:13:59 PM
Post by: Flem on November 24, 2021, 02:06:03 PM
Post by: Longcruise on November 24, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
Post by: Flem on November 24, 2021, 02:12:51 PM
Post by: Longcruise on November 24, 2021, 04:54:13 PM
Belt blanks are pricey. If you plan to make more than a few it becomes economical to cut them out of sides.
Post by: Pat B on November 24, 2021, 05:10:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 24, 2021, 06:22:54 PM
Me too :goldtooth:
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 24, 2021, 06:28:12 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 24, 2021, 08:45:30 PM
I am going to start with a 3 piece bow until I get a little more experience and then I want to do a 1 piece longbow.
Post by: Flem on November 25, 2021, 09:59:41 AM
You got that long hair from the 70's too :bigsmyl:
Me too :goldtooth:
70's was fun. Miss the simplicity.
Damn Pat, wish I had known you are a real leathersmith, I was anguishing over what to use, to finish the inside of a holster with.
Post by: Pat B on November 26, 2021, 10:30:10 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 26, 2021, 10:32:12 AM
:laughing: :wavey:
Post by: Flem on November 26, 2021, 11:26:37 AM
Ya quick draw what did ya use?
:laughing: :wavey:
I wish, more like slow hand :saywhat:
I ended up making a concoction of seed-lac, crystallized Ponderosa resin and paraffin. I warmed it up to about 120deg and brushed it in. After it dried, I buffed the crap out of it with a soft brittle brush. Firmed it up pretty good, but its still flexible enough. I would have rather used beeswax, but was afraid of getting the ingredients up to melting temp, plus I did not know if it was a good idea or not putting the hot mix on leather.
Post by: Pat B on November 26, 2021, 11:54:56 AM
Post by: Flem on November 26, 2021, 03:32:22 PM
I would have used bees wax. Heat it up just enough to melt the wax then wipe off the excess while it's still warm. That would give you a slick finish without saturating the leather plus protect the gun metal from moisture in the leather.
I had a feeling I was fussing with it too much. I even did the edges with de-waxed shellac and resin, in case I decided to glue the seam :banghead: Oh well, I will let you know how it held up next thanksgiving.
Post by: Pat B on November 26, 2021, 04:57:21 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 28, 2021, 06:23:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XG4FxvW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zoKJuwg.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on November 30, 2021, 11:44:42 AM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on November 30, 2021, 12:28:23 PM
Post by: Flem on November 30, 2021, 12:39:48 PM
Post by: Pat B on November 30, 2021, 04:09:07 PM
Post by: Bvas on November 30, 2021, 08:22:42 PM
Glued up the second limb for a takedown this evening. No pics, so it might not have happened. :biglaugh:
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on November 30, 2021, 09:17:16 PM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on November 30, 2021, 09:35:21 PM
Post by: Flem on November 30, 2021, 09:38:39 PM
Simple is good :thumbsup:
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 01, 2021, 05:53:14 AM
That and the introduction of coyotes.
Flem,
I used Fiebings dye and their reducer. Still learning on the dying thing. I did my grandson a quiver out of veg tan, dyed and tooled it, then a coat of restored. We got caught in a rainstorm while stumping one day.
The quiver now has rain spots... got to figure out a waterproof dye.
Post by: Flem on December 01, 2021, 09:54:50 AM
Color went all the way thru the test piece that was in with the main piece. Wet molding did not affect it.
Time will tell!
Post by: Pat B on December 01, 2021, 10:23:27 AM
Post by: Flem on December 01, 2021, 11:49:54 AM
Have to check the MSDS to know for sure. Seems most packaged dye's are for topical application. I was going for a tannery style dye job.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 01, 2021, 01:05:03 PM
On the quiver I had an issue with , I just did a surface dye. Another project with smaller pieces I did a bath. I believe the bath works better because it saturates. Although I have not gotten those pieces wet. I need to find a good sealant.
Post by: kennym on December 01, 2021, 01:30:53 PM
4.8 lbs heavy now and still need to tiller and sand. :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 01, 2021, 02:31:31 PM
Post by: Longcruise on December 01, 2021, 02:32:50 PM
Post by: kennym on December 01, 2021, 02:46:14 PM
Post by: Shredd on December 01, 2021, 05:27:24 PM
Post by: kennym on December 01, 2021, 05:39:44 PM
I have not built or worked on bows in a long time... :( Am I still allowed on this forum??
If you know the secret handshake (or Roy) :biglaugh:
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 01, 2021, 06:37:12 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 02, 2021, 05:33:39 AM
I haven't either, got all wrapped up in our camp in the mountains which is where I am now.
I'll get that deer hide out to you when I get home.
Post by: kennym on December 02, 2021, 08:08:22 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 02, 2021, 08:10:46 AM
Post by: Pat B on December 02, 2021, 09:37:27 AM
Post by: Shredd on December 02, 2021, 09:52:13 AM
Careful Rich, that may be the hide he's been wearing up in those mountains... :biglaugh:
Lordy... I hope not... :laughing:
Thanks Roy... I'll try to work on something soon... ;) :) Thanks for the hide too...
When I'm not making money doing carpentry I been working on my property the whole year... The more I work on it the more I find things wrong... Plus add in covid that set me back 3 month's which is still lingering on and last week I found black mold in my house... Sheesh... No wonder this bronchitis is slow going... But I am chomping at the bit to get on some bows again... Once I get all this work done I should be free to do what I want for a good few years... :) :)
Post by: Flem on December 02, 2021, 10:09:23 AM
I looked at the Fiebings SDS sheets and the alcohol dye is aniline. Wonder why they use an alcohol base rater than water?
Post by: Shredd on December 02, 2021, 10:17:35 AM
Post by: Longcruise on December 02, 2021, 10:23:22 AM
Cool Shredd, you get Roy's "Camp Salami" loin cloth.
I looked at the Fiebings SDS sheets and the alcohol dye is aniline. Wonder why they use an alcohol base rater than water?
Drys faster??
Post by: garyschuler on December 02, 2021, 10:27:50 AM
We had it 3 + months also and damn near killed me. But then again, i am to ornery or ugly to croak.
Post by: Pat B on December 02, 2021, 11:49:20 AM
Post by: Flem on December 02, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 02, 2021, 02:23:56 PM
All your car leather seats, sofas etc are chrome tanned
Post by: B-JS on December 02, 2021, 02:30:10 PM
Plus an other glue, that may be more suitable for curingbat room temperature.
So two unnown influences.
Hope it will come out the way i planned.
Post by: Buemaker on December 02, 2021, 05:52:21 PM
Post by: Longcruise on December 02, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
Post by: Bvas on December 02, 2021, 06:41:20 PM
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Got home and got overlays ready to glue up on limb butts.
Post by: Shredd on December 02, 2021, 11:25:29 PM
Hey Shredd, I see you were a Covid Longhauler too!!
We had it 3 + months also and damn near killed me. But then again, i am to ornery or ugly to croak.
Glad you made it through... The sickness wasn't so bad it was the after effects...
At least my pool game went up a notch or two... Played 2 to 3 hours every day...
We got any other pool players out there??
Post by: B-JS on December 03, 2021, 12:23:09 AM
Looks good. Is that a Cocobolo riser?
No, thats Saraifo "Rosewood".
Post by: KenH on December 03, 2021, 07:06:25 AM
Post by: B-JS on December 03, 2021, 07:23:31 AM
And that's whats best for a Starter Kit to build your first laminated Bow.
Still good and decent for dozends and hundreds of bows, but i'm to lazy to wrestle with EVERY single bow, i have to glue up. :biglaugh:
The bows, i sell, are pressed with a hose and full form with heat stripes.
Post by: B-JS on December 04, 2021, 02:12:56 PM
No Handshock, decent Performance, stable, and Not tooo ugly.
And the glue also does it's Job.
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 04, 2021, 04:15:47 PM
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Not one of my best moments.
Dave.
Post by: Pat B on December 04, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
Post by: Buemaker on December 04, 2021, 05:43:20 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 04, 2021, 05:48:43 PM
Those wood slicers really are sharp, even after a ton of use. Take my word for it.
I don’t know if I hit the bone in my middle finger, but it feels like its clamped in a vice.
Dave.
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 04, 2021, 05:56:18 PM
You better believe it hurts!
Dave.
Post by: Buemaker on December 04, 2021, 06:44:43 PM
Post by: Shredd on December 04, 2021, 07:23:43 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 04, 2021, 08:48:17 PM
Dreaming of beautiful women when using sharp tools is a no no.Lol, I have a scar on the knuckle of the same finger to remind me.
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 05, 2021, 03:49:59 AM
Hope you heal up quickly.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 07, 2021, 07:12:20 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 07, 2021, 07:56:36 AM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 07, 2021, 08:07:15 AM
This hatchet head was from his stuff. He has no idea. I have another one for him in the works as well.
Post by: mmattockx on December 07, 2021, 10:42:29 AM
Mark
Post by: Jeff Freeman on December 07, 2021, 10:44:40 AM
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 11, 2021, 04:35:36 PM
Nice piece of wood. 😁
There are three more logs to cut up and two of them have been laying on the ground for a while so they have some spalting in them. I can’t wait to cut into them.
The wind was howling. We heard a tree break back in the woods behind us.
Dave.
Post by: Stagmitis on December 11, 2021, 04:52:40 PM
Post by: Shredd on December 11, 2021, 05:25:32 PM
Post by: Flem on December 11, 2021, 05:53:28 PM
I had an Alaska mill, used it a couple times and sold it.
Post by: Stagmitis on December 11, 2021, 06:01:16 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 11, 2021, 10:19:41 PM
I did get 2 more knifes done. Working on holsters now.
Post by: Shredd on December 11, 2021, 10:39:27 PM
Like a portable $ sawmill Shred?
Or take it to a mill... Or do what I do... Use the alaskan mill to cut the log in half then run the rest through the bandsaw...
Post by: Buemaker on December 13, 2021, 11:56:05 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on December 13, 2021, 04:04:06 PM
:laughing: :wavey:
Post by: Mad Max on December 13, 2021, 04:35:23 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 13, 2021, 05:22:40 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on December 13, 2021, 05:48:22 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 13, 2021, 08:25:12 PM
LOL
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Post by: Shredd on December 14, 2021, 11:18:02 PM
https://www.facebook.com/rich.redd.75/posts/10219991383672040?notif_id=1639526442466447¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif
Post by: Mad Max on December 14, 2021, 11:42:51 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 15, 2021, 07:20:54 AM
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Post by: Shredd on December 15, 2021, 09:22:46 AM
Those are nice Shredd! What woods? Nice contrast.
Sheoak with wenge/jatoba accent...
Post by: Shredd on December 15, 2021, 09:32:07 AM
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Post by: Flem on December 15, 2021, 01:19:00 PM
Your bows always look to have a dead smooth finish :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 15, 2021, 01:39:51 PM
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Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 15, 2021, 07:01:02 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on December 16, 2021, 06:32:07 PM
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Post by: Jeff Freeman on December 16, 2021, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: Flem on December 17, 2021, 07:59:10 PM
Its fun to make useful things out of things that look useless.
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Post by: Mad Max on December 17, 2021, 08:45:47 PM
So start a new topic on building a bow :thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on December 18, 2021, 09:54:32 AM
Flem
So start a new topic on building a bow :thumbsup:
I'm working on it :tongue: Going to have to pick away at it for a while.
Post by: Mad Max on December 18, 2021, 10:03:10 AM
Flem
So start a new topic on building a bow :thumbsup:
I'm working on it :tongue: Going to have to pick away at it for a while.
:thumbsup:
Post by: Flem on December 18, 2021, 01:53:26 PM
Thought I would keep at this riser since I'm in the mood. Not a huge fan of stacked risers on an Asl and fat glues lines make me cringe. Going thru the grits to 400 and I'll orient the grain for flow. Trying to make it look as natural as possible.
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Post by: Longcruise on December 18, 2021, 02:16:04 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 18, 2021, 02:38:08 PM
LOL
Post by: Buemaker on December 18, 2021, 02:47:16 PM
Post by: Stagmitis on December 18, 2021, 04:35:04 PM
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Post by: Flem on December 18, 2021, 04:49:28 PM
Oh shoot thats Longcruise! I would drive there also :knothead:
Pick me up on the way thru :thumbsup:
Post by: Longcruise on December 18, 2021, 08:05:15 PM
Do you fry the meatballs in the oven? Looks good.
Yes, 15 min at 450f.
Post by: Bvas on December 19, 2021, 12:38:14 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on December 19, 2021, 01:54:31 PM
Post by: Mad Max on December 19, 2021, 01:57:20 PM
Is that a bushing in the limb and where did you get it? :thumbsup:
Post by: kennym on December 19, 2021, 02:45:20 PM
Post by: Bvas on December 19, 2021, 05:04:22 PM
Nice BvasYes it is. Actually it’s double stacked brass bushings. It allows me to set both surfaces flush with varying limb/overlay thicknesses. I also use bushings in the limbs for the alignment pins.
Is that a bushing in the limb and where did you get it? :thumbsup:
I order them thru fastenall, but they ship direct from manufacturer.
Post by: Mad Max on December 19, 2021, 06:34:54 PM
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Post by: Bvas on December 19, 2021, 08:04:43 PM
Can you explain what a double stacked brass bushing is?Bue there are two bushings for each limb bolt. One is set flush with the top and one set flush with the bottom of the limb. There is a slight gap between them in the middle of the limb.
Thin limbs they will be tight to each other. Thick limbs will have a gap in the middle of the limb.
Post by: Buemaker on December 20, 2021, 04:14:44 AM
Post by: Flem on December 20, 2021, 09:49:52 AM
Never seen Mulberry wood, very cool!
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 20, 2021, 11:49:39 AM
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Post by: Flem on December 21, 2021, 10:13:08 AM
Those ASL handles sure are exciting to look at eh?
What are your limb woods?
Post by: Buemaker on December 21, 2021, 11:56:18 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on December 21, 2021, 04:36:58 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 21, 2021, 05:15:06 PM
It is a Elm species that grow over here, Ulmus Glabra. This one was very special.Beautiful wood. It looks like sheet music.
Dave.
Post by: kennym on December 21, 2021, 07:59:11 PM
Looks great!! :thumbsup:
Post by: Bvas on December 21, 2021, 08:04:28 PM
Red elm will be beautiful when the exotics have run their course...I agree completely Kenny. Exotics already ran their course with me. There is plenty of beautiful color and grain in our native species.
Looks great!! :thumbsup:
Nice work Bue!!!
Post by: Bvas on December 21, 2021, 08:06:25 PM
https://www.ruralking.com/catalog/product/view/id/92073
Post by: kennym on December 21, 2021, 08:13:37 PM
That is interesting. Think it would make enough heat?
Post by: Bvas on December 21, 2021, 08:17:05 PM
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Post by: Jeff Freeman on December 21, 2021, 08:33:04 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on December 22, 2021, 06:26:24 AM
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Post by: Jeff Freeman on December 22, 2021, 09:11:23 AM
Post by: Flem on December 22, 2021, 09:40:25 AM
Is that wood real old?
Post by: Carpdaddy on December 22, 2021, 07:39:30 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 22, 2021, 08:31:52 PM
Post by: Flem on December 22, 2021, 11:13:20 PM
Post by: Bvas on December 23, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
Had my knee scoped Tuesday for a torn meniscus. Hopefully be healed in time to get some late season hunting in. Haven’t put any meat in the freezer yet.
Post by: Shredd on December 23, 2021, 01:52:21 PM
I am finally gonna work on bows again today... I am gonna try tweaking this design to see if I can get another 3 to 4 fps out of it...
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Post by: Buemaker on December 23, 2021, 02:30:43 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on December 23, 2021, 02:38:57 PM
Very nice, Rich...
Post by: Carpdaddy on December 23, 2021, 03:40:08 PM
What kind of wood you got there Carpdaddy?Big hunk of Osage, it’s seen a lot of sunlight, so not as yellow as it once was.
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 23, 2021, 06:05:16 PM
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Since I started turning wood, I’m using my short pieces that used to fill boxes.
I don’t throw away wood. Even small pieces.
Dave.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 23, 2021, 06:23:07 PM
Post by: Shredd on December 23, 2021, 07:09:36 PM
Nice bend on those limbs. :)
Thanks Bue...
Post by: Buemaker on December 23, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 23, 2021, 08:12:25 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 23, 2021, 08:34:22 PM
It’s a good way to use up leftovers.
Dave.
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 23, 2021, 08:41:17 PM
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It’s a Christmas gift for my niece. I made it with cherry and walnut with some kingwood to hold the strings.
Fun stuff, but I’m starting to get the itch to build a bow.
Dave.
Post by: Shredd on December 23, 2021, 11:45:30 PM
Shred, I would love to see more of that bow build!
Ok... I will post some stuff... Not gonna do a full build on this one... Just making limbs... Besides it's pretty much all been seen before...
Nice projects guys...
Post by: Flem on December 24, 2021, 09:59:15 AM
Wonder if the repair methods have changed much in 4 decades?
Bvas, go see an orthopedist that is also an athlete, if you can. You want them to know that future physical activity is very important.
Post by: Bvas on December 24, 2021, 12:50:15 PM
Don’t know how they did it 40 years ago, but now it is done arthroscopic. Two little half inch incisions. One for camera and one to work in. Basically just go in and shave off the fuzzy parts of the tendon(after 6 months it was no longer a flap) and close it up.
Supposed to be 1-2 weeks recovery. We’ll see.
Post by: Flem on December 24, 2021, 03:04:38 PM
Might as well get it cleaned up. I'm sure the tools have improved, probably have all kind of micro plumbing and cleaning devices these days.
Post by: Longcruise on December 24, 2021, 03:28:18 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on December 24, 2021, 09:16:46 PM
Black and White Ebony, Gabion Ebony and Amber Actionboo core. Boo was Flooring 🤣
Post by: Bvas on December 24, 2021, 09:33:41 PM
Gonna be purty
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 24, 2021, 09:35:18 PM
Post by: Buemaker on December 25, 2021, 11:21:09 AM
Post by: bucknut on December 25, 2021, 12:09:47 PM
Post by: mmattockx on December 25, 2021, 03:02:20 PM
Black and White Ebony, Gabion Ebony and Amber Actionboo core.
I didn't know there was such a thing as B&W ebony. That's going to look great, look forward to seeing some pics when it's finished.
Mark
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 25, 2021, 07:10:52 PM
Post by: Jeff Freeman on December 25, 2021, 07:23:38 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 25, 2021, 07:24:16 PM
Dave.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 25, 2021, 07:32:35 PM
Jeff, that B&w ebony is nice wood. Mike Treadway has a longbow he has done that is finished in high gloss. Stunning wood for sure!
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 26, 2021, 07:39:26 PM
I finished this one up a couple of days ago.52 in. 49 @ 28. sycamore veneers and black locust riser.
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Post by: OldRawhide42 on December 26, 2021, 08:56:36 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 26, 2021, 10:14:22 PM
The glue lines kinda give it that look.
Post by: Flem on December 26, 2021, 10:16:20 PM
What is the red stripe . It almost looks like you can see into it. I like it.
Me too :thumbsup: I really the the natural finish woods, very clean look.
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 27, 2021, 08:00:02 AM
Post by: Mad Max on December 27, 2021, 08:17:33 AM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 27, 2021, 08:27:33 AM
I think sycamore is very underrated. It has a gorgeous color tone and pattern
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 27, 2021, 11:10:04 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on December 27, 2021, 11:22:46 AM
Post by: TradBowyer on December 27, 2021, 03:13:48 PM
Post by: Mad Max on December 27, 2021, 05:08:38 PM
FINALLY got my edge sander fixed and wow am I ready to use it. Just trying to decide on a hill style longbow or takedown
Pictures?????????
Post by: kennym on December 27, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
Post by: Mad Max on December 27, 2021, 05:57:20 PM
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 27, 2021, 06:03:35 PM
I also went wood shopping and picked up Leopard wood, Bloodwood and a piece of ambrosia maple with the tightest curls I have found yet!
Blood wood riser and some figured maple limbs.
Post by: kennym on December 27, 2021, 06:03:44 PM
Part of the cost was a couple sanding belts , gotta have a finer one for another project that I got into somehow .
Post by: Mad Max on December 27, 2021, 06:40:38 PM
Post by: Flem on December 28, 2021, 01:20:40 PM
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Decided it was a good time to do a quick sand and seal. Probably should have flipped it over :banghead:
After looking at all that real estate, I thought can I use the IR heater hanging over the bench for a knock together heat corral?
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The answer is yes! It's a bit wasteful though. The IR lamp puts out 1100watts and it needs to be high above the bench. Plus its only 4', which leaves 1' on each end in a cooler zone. On the other hand, my box only uses 300watts and has a circulation fan. But for heavy or complicated pressing, it might be worth sorting out the cons, to not have to move it.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 28, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
I did get the Rosewood Archery price sheet today !
Have you saw the price of the Black and White Ebony per board ft?
Post by: Longcruise on December 28, 2021, 04:46:53 PM
Cleaned my bench off. First time I have seen the whole top in years!
Decided it was a good time to do a quick sand and seal. Probably should have flipped it over :banghead:
After looking at all that real estate, I thought can I use the IR heater hanging over the bench for a knock together heat corral?
The answer is yes! It's a bit wasteful though. The IR lamp puts out 1100watts and it needs to be high above the bench. Plus its only 4', which leaves 1' on each end in a cooler zone. On the other hand, my box only uses 300watts and has a circulation fan. But for heavy or complicated pressing, it might be worth sorting out the cons, to not have to move it.
Looks like you were able to jam it all under the bench. :biglaugh:
Post by: Flem on December 28, 2021, 09:30:14 PM
Post by: Longcruise on December 28, 2021, 11:48:27 PM
Post by: Carpdaddy on December 29, 2021, 09:24:04 PM
Post by: kennym on December 29, 2021, 09:27:18 PM
EDIT : Should have made that more clear, ordered and received parts in less than 24 hours!!
Post by: wood carver 2 on December 29, 2021, 10:13:36 PM
After that, I cut some live edge osage and spalted maple for cheese boards and started working on a carved box for a good friend of mine.
All in all a good time. I sure am glad that I booked the holidays off.
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 30, 2021, 07:22:21 AM
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Post by: Flem on December 30, 2021, 08:46:30 AM
I'll be there in a couple days :biglaugh:
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Post by: Longcruise on December 30, 2021, 03:29:37 PM
Post by: Longcruise on December 30, 2021, 04:51:34 PM
From the local news:
"The entire town of Superior in Boulder County is under mandatory evacuation order. The evacuation point is the South Boulder Recreation Center.
The situation in Superior deteriorated rapidly. Video shows Costco shoppers in Superior being engulfed in smoke as they run to evacuate the area."
Post by: Flem on December 31, 2021, 10:19:04 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 31, 2021, 10:57:04 AM
Over 100 homes have burnt in Boulder and the town evacuated.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 31, 2021, 11:22:38 AM
Prayers to all who lost homes.
Reminds me of the fire "tornado" that struck Gatlinburg TN a few years back.
Post by: Longcruise on December 31, 2021, 02:03:52 PM
Most of the burned acreage is wild grassland which is what enabled the fast uncontrolled spread. Homes lost are mostly in subdivisions on the grassland.
Post by: kennym on December 31, 2021, 02:38:49 PM
Post by: Longcruise on December 31, 2021, 05:33:03 PM
With those winds, there is no stopping it! :pray:
Wind is done and starting to snow.
Post by: Appalachian Hillbilly on December 31, 2021, 08:00:06 PM
New bow shoots really well.