Post by: bowmaster12 on December 07, 2020, 08:59:33 PM
Post by: Mike Bolin on December 07, 2020, 09:03:35 PM
Post by: Wudstix on December 08, 2020, 12:52:56 AM
:campfire:
Post by: Wheels2 on December 08, 2020, 06:56:14 AM
A 45# Bear Grizzly has much less performance that a 45# Covert Hunter.
Lots of folks here will tell you of their success with various 40#-45# bows and 3 balde heads.
I will let others step forward and tell you that their light rig did not work.
Last year I shot a doe with a 46# Morrison Max 6 ILF and 125 Snuffers on a 390 grain Easton Aftermath. 196 fps.
Hit her at last rib, angled forward and came out 4 ribs forward. Well, almost. When I shot the last inch or so of the fletching was showing but the arrow worked through wen she ran.
This year I hunted with 48# and alluminum XX75 2117 and the same Snuffers. I felt the need for a bit more momentum.
Post by: huckbuck on December 08, 2020, 07:55:11 AM
Post by: Wudstix on December 08, 2020, 08:50:06 AM
:coffee: :campfire: :archer2:
Post by: smokin joe on December 08, 2020, 09:50:42 AM
Post by: Dave Lay on December 08, 2020, 10:12:24 AM
And may give the 175 gr a try. I trust Mikes opinion on this
Post by: Mike Bolin on December 08, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
I was thinking that this is the lightest bow that I had ever taken game with as most of my bows for the past 30 years have been in the mid 50# to mid 60# range. I remembered that in 2001 or 2002 I traded for a MOAB that was listed as 51#@28". Lighter than what I was used to shooting, but I wanted something for late season when I was all layered up. Received the bow and took it out and shot a dozen or so arrows after work under the dusk to dawn light and it shot perfect for me. It felt really light and smooth, but I had been shooting 60# so I expected it to feel that way. I took the MOAB hunting the next morning and shot a doe at 25 steps. Pass thru and she went over the hill about 45 yards and dropped. Great blood trail using an old Wensel Woodsman with a 125 grain steel adapter.
Took care of the deer and was cleaning up my gear and took a good look at the bow. It was marked 51# at 31". I couldn't believe that I'd shot a deer with a kid's bow!! Pulled it with my hand held bow scale and it was a tad under 45#@28". Even though I had just made a clean kill with the bow I wrote it off to luck and put the bow up for sale. I was firmly entrenched in the "you have to shoot at least 50# to kill a deer" mindset. I sure wish I had that bow back now! Beautiful black and white ebony MOAB that shot like a dream.
Post by: Terry Green on December 08, 2020, 12:48:05 PM
Until then, no real answer can be made.
Post by: bowmaster12 on December 08, 2020, 01:29:05 PM
Post by: Wudstix on December 08, 2020, 03:33:54 PM
:campfire:
Post by: guspup on December 08, 2020, 09:23:24 PM
Post by: Mike Bolin on December 08, 2020, 10:34:54 PM
Post by: Terry Green on December 09, 2020, 02:00:44 AM
Yep, should be good to go. When the Wensels came out with the Woodsman they stated that they designed it so it would also work on lighter weight bows.
Just make sure you use a cut on contact head close to those dimensions and not a short blunty design.
Have fun!
Post by: Wudstix on December 09, 2020, 10:15:49 AM
:coffee: :campfire: :archer2:
Post by: Yooper-traveler on December 09, 2020, 02:21:49 PM
I know and understand the benifits of foc and 2 blade heads. Im going to be getting a new bow 45 lbs i will be shooting wood arrows. For some reason im really liking the idea of shooting a 3 blade head with this new setup. Im thinking id like ro be in the 12 gpi. Would it be a mistake to shoot a 3 blade head?
I use them every year with bows below 45#. Woodsman (VPA) and Kustom King trailmakers (also VPA??) glue ons mostly. Last year to complete passthrus on a doe and a bear. Usually the same story every year unless I screw up. I'm usually in the 10-11 GPI if I remember correctly.
Post by: acolobowhunter on December 12, 2020, 08:49:47 PM
Post by: Orion on December 12, 2020, 11:45:08 PM
Post by: Terry Green on December 13, 2020, 05:56:23 AM
Killed a number of white tails with 45# recurves and mild r/d longbows and 3-blade Woodsmans. That's plenty bow to drive a skinny 3-blade like a Woodsman through deer.
This!... and I'm still shooting 60 to 70#s
If I can kill a 2000# plus bison with a WW surely you can kill a whitetail...
Post by: bowmaster12 on December 13, 2020, 09:22:16 AM
Post by: smokin joe on December 13, 2020, 10:29:32 AM
I get excellent bare shaft flight with this formula.
Post by: Orion on December 13, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
Post by: Paul Fithian on December 15, 2020, 06:23:42 PM
Shot was single lung and liver, she was quartering toward me. Pass through, she went ~ 15 yards and dropped. Left a big hole in the liver before exiting into some wood behind where she was standing.
Post by: BillyfromSuperior on December 17, 2020, 10:29:35 PM
:deadhorse:
And YES they are (3) blades.
They group more consistent then my (2) blade Razor heads 145grn, by Bear.
Post by: BillyfromSuperior on December 17, 2020, 10:35:06 PM
This is the entry wound on a doe I bagged this morning with a VPA 250 grain 1 1/4" 3-blade. Bow is a 45# 1963 vintage Red Wing Hunter. Arrow weight is 546 g.Looks like a Bodkin? Or an MA3? I know its not , good design. :archer2:
Shot was single lung and liver, she was quartering toward me. Pass through, she went ~ 15 yards and dropped. Left a big hole in the liver before exiting into some wood behind where she was standing.
Post by: Alexander Traditional on December 17, 2020, 10:40:40 PM