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Title: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: tenbrook on April 21, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
I ordered a bow from a well known bowyer (I will not mention any names) A few months ago.  Well he called me today to say my bow was ready.  The only problem is I ordered my bow 48# @ 28 and when he called he told me the weight was 52#.  I already have a 53# bow that is a little to heavy for me, and told the bowyer at time of ordering, that it was critical that the bow comes in at under 50# preferably right at 48#.  He said sorry, but told me it was not really an issue.  He told me he would just reduce the weight of the bow and refinish it. Here is where my question is?

Since the bow was built with the correct thickness of lams for a 52# bow, will the performance/tiller of the bow be less then if he had originally built it to be a 48# bow?  Or would he have glued it up the same either way and reduced the width?

Please help.....as I feel as if I am going to be spending $670 for a bow that is not quite up to par?   :(
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: JRY309 on April 21, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
4# is not a big difference.I heard of other guys tha thave bought custom made bows that later have sent them back for a weight reduction instead of ordering a new bow.I don't think that would be a problem.Jeff Massie used to offer weight reduction and refinishing for bows,now who he sold his business to offers the same services.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: Bjorn on April 21, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
That is a good bowyer at work, bowyers today will only guarantee anything within 2# of target-so 50 means anything from 48-52#.
The weights being that close he would have glued up the same lams and tillered for your specs anyway; this way you are getting the exact weight you asked for.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: GameGetter on April 21, 2008, 12:22:00 PM
Both good answers!
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: Diamond Paul on April 21, 2008, 01:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
That is a good bowyer at work, bowyers today will only guarantee anything within 2# of target-so 50 means anything from 48-52#.
The weights being that close he would have glued up the same lams and tillered for your specs anyway; this way you are getting the exact weight you asked for.
Unless he ordered the bow at 48lbs, in which case the bowyer missed the weight by more than +-2lbs.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: Badlands on April 21, 2008, 01:24:00 PM
Tenbrook
Rest easy. 4 pounds is no big deal.  The difference in laminations would have only been a couple thousanths of an inch if any.  

I build a few bows as a hobiest and a few weeks ago I was working on a prototype of a new design. It came out way heavy.  I was able to nock off almost 20lbs.  I narrowed it a bit and then started sanding the back and belly glass.  I know that this is not the recomended practice but it was a prototype that was way over weight and I had nothing to loose.  I did it all by hand and tried hard to sand as evenly on all sides as I could.  It turned out far better than you would have ever guessed.  Even  the tillering remained constant.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: tenbrook on April 21, 2008, 01:31:00 PM
Good, it sounds as if I shouldn't worry!  I just didn't want to get a substandard bow.

Thanks!

Tenbrook
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: zipper bowss on April 21, 2008, 01:37:00 PM
tenbrook
no worries, reducing the weight will not hurt performance or reliability what so ever
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: bayoulongbowman on April 21, 2008, 02:27:00 PM
Its not big deal and I think you have to give bowyer some lee-way...reduction ...ur happy camper, I would be...I had to send limbs back to Hoyt once...they reduced , bow was find ...not big deal, as longb as the bowyer makes it right...and thats fair!  :)
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: Bill Turner on April 21, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
I recently had a two piece longbow reduced by 5 full pounds. The bow actually performs as well or better then it did before reduction. If the bowyer knows what he is doing you should not have a problem.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: BobW on April 21, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
I think the fact you use "a well known bowyer" in your opening tells the whole part.  I doubt very seriously that someone who has done that much to build a name/reputation for himself would risk it on a single bow.  These (successful & respected) guys want every customer to be a happy one.  Remember, you are their advertising.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: BD on April 21, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
I had 4lbs taken off my habu takedown a while back after several neck and shoulder surgeries. It still shoots rockets as good as ever (actually even better now that the weight is more comfortable for me).
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: vermonster13 on April 21, 2008, 10:29:00 PM
Heck some bowyers charge you extra to be less than a plus or minus 2#s, so this one is doing right by you.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: Gator1 on April 23, 2008, 01:57:00 PM
Not to beat a dead horse:

If I order a bow at 48lbs and most bowyers gurantee plus or minus two pounds.

The bow should fall between: 46-50lbs???

So, at 52lbs, shouldn't it be a re-do???
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: sswv on April 23, 2008, 02:23:00 PM
in my experience it will be even better. I had my Vortex reduced 3#s and it just made for an even better bow. a friend had a Widow reduced and the result was the same, a sweeter bow. I'm actually getting ready to send a recurve back for a reduction. you'll be very pleased I'm sure.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: James Wrenn on April 23, 2008, 03:48:00 PM
You will probably get a better bow out of it.Depending on how you drops the weight he will most likely get rid of some fat on the bow and make it shoot better.Certainly a waste of time to be concerned about it.When I buy used bows I often buy them heavier than I want so I can trim them down some.
Title: Re: Weight Reduction ?'s
Post by: chuck172 on April 23, 2008, 03:56:00 PM
Martin Archery will shave the limbs on their Hatfield. They will be able to take off only 2-3 pds. off their 55# limbs, that's maximum to keep structurally sound. They will be able to take off 5pds. off their 60# limbs.