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Title: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: kennym on October 22, 2020, 08:02:58 PM
Glass that is...  I don't have the patience or skills to do a self bow or a boo backed one... :dunno:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Mad Max on October 22, 2020, 08:21:40 PM
Always want to see a build :jumper:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Longcruise on October 22, 2020, 08:39:05 PM
I'd like to see it
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Post by: ztontonz on October 22, 2020, 09:34:54 PM
For sure I nd to see one. What is it? Hybrid? 1 piece? 3 pieces?
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Bvas on October 22, 2020, 09:36:03 PM
I always enjoy a build.

Specially when it’s gots pichers.  :goldtooth:
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Post by: jess stuart on October 22, 2020, 10:12:04 PM
HECK YEAH!!
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Flem on October 22, 2020, 11:58:37 PM
Are we not bowyers? Build on, please!
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: skeaterbait on October 23, 2020, 12:18:03 AM
Will it take long?  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 23, 2020, 05:14:49 AM
Shore, I wuv gwass builds...
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: flntknp17 on October 23, 2020, 11:11:55 AM
I'm always interested in seeing a build of any kind........but I make bamboo backed bows because I don't have the patience for glass bows!   :biglaugh:

Matt
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 23, 2020, 11:25:00 AM
Ok so we are gonna do a 45@28 - 58” fhlb one piece

I picked a pc of grenadillo from the junk stuff and have some veneers Dan Raney gave me when he was hunting here. Hope they look ok together...

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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Buemaker on October 23, 2020, 12:04:30 PM
Build along is just what is needed now. Get it on, get it on, bang a gong, ding dong. :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Longcruise on October 23, 2020, 12:17:08 PM
What are those veneers?  Think they are going to pop real nice!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 23, 2020, 03:40:31 PM
Mike, not sure , Dan didn't know and I don't either.  They were .035 and I sanded to .025 to clean up. That made em a lot lighter color, will be a little darker and browner than maple I think...
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 23, 2020, 06:06:40 PM
It's been 24 hours and no glue up yet? What the heck is going on boy?:)

 :wavey:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 23, 2020, 08:20:03 PM
Little home remodel on back deck, little huntin , very little work and about that much bow buildin... :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 23, 2020, 08:20:49 PM
I gots sum more pitchers so you can foller along ...
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Post by: Crooked Stic on October 23, 2020, 09:47:25 PM
That Knotty wood minds me of Roys head  :laughing:
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Post by: skeaterbait on October 24, 2020, 06:13:31 AM
I really like the wood Kenny, but not sure on your tool list, all I see is a chisel, screwdriver and a claw hammer... :dunno:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 08:49:31 AM
Lonnie , low budget scrap wood bow build ... :biglaugh:

Now to saw the veneers to 1.5” width...

I use this as a straightedge to keep the little veneer saw’s teeth on veneer only not the plywood

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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 08:52:34 AM
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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 08:56:53 AM
The veneers were .035 but I ran em thru the sander to get fresh glue surface and now they are .025 

Lonnie, I think I had a traditional pencil in that pic too... :saywhat:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 09:09:34 AM
Have the core lams made , now to scarf joint them and make long ones outta short ones...

This shows a finished lam and one bout half done. They should both be ground to a feathered end just like a riser fade when done.

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Now to glue them together I have an aluminum straitedge 1/4 x1.5 x72 that I lay plastic under glue area and then clamp first lam down on the straitedge. Then give a good coat of ca to that lam and press the other lam down where it goes. Look at second lam to be sure it has a good coat of glue also .

Now lay it in place , flip the plastic over it , feel the joint and get it as flush as possible. Lay a block on top for even pressure and clamp, I use a scrap of plywood. You have about 15 seconds to do this so don’t fool around and have all items ready to go.

I let it set for at least a few minutes to be sure it’s done bonding , could prob do less but ...

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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 09:13:39 AM
Missed the getting ready pic , here I have stuff laid out for scarf gluing

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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 09:22:11 AM
Not too shabby ole timer:)

I like that little cutting tool ya have too, ya make it?

Looks to have a serrated edge, ya use it like a saw?

Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Flem on October 24, 2020, 09:24:56 AM
Looks like a veneer saw.
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 09:26:26 AM
No way:)

Ah I see now..

Might hafta get one and make a gwass bow..

Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 09:30:53 AM
Well that just cost me $20.00:)

They have one that has the teeth pointed in one direction for cutting on the pull stroke, which is better straight teeth or angled teeth?
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 09:33:31 AM
Heck I made one I knapped outta chert but the kerf was a little too wide to suit me...  :laughing:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 09:36:05 AM
This one is angled, which will be best?

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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 09:53:48 AM
Mine is too to keep hand off bench . Blade is reversible
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Flem on October 24, 2020, 10:09:08 AM
I'm partial to pull saws, Japanese style. Better control on the pull stroke, cleaner cut, smaller kerf.
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I certainly would not buy the first one you posted Roy, one botched pronunciation and you will be in dutch with the wife.
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 10:36:55 AM
Mine is a pull saw also , I get along good with it.
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 11:38:42 AM
How much ya gotta pull it, Kenny?:)

Ok cancelled the first order and ordered the cut on pull stroke. 4 bucks more..


Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 24, 2020, 11:47:12 AM
As much as ya want , usually bout three pulls does it ...  :laughing:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Flem on October 24, 2020, 11:55:19 AM
What are those two dangly things on your handle Roy?
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 11:55:40 AM
Cherries, Flem...

Does it splinter your wood, Kenny?
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 02:23:27 PM
Meant the teeth are at an angle compared to the first one the teeth were straight. Both have the angled handle.
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Buemaker on October 24, 2020, 04:54:30 PM
I use this Japanese one, cut on the pull stroke. Roy, how many pulls depend on age.
Kenny, I’m gonna copy your straight edge, good idea.
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Longcruise on October 24, 2020, 05:19:36 PM
I use this Japanese one, cut on the pull stroke. Roy, how many pulls depend on age.
Kenny, I’m gonna copy your straight edge, good idea.

Yes, as the teeth recede, the pull count goes up.  :)
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 24, 2020, 05:54:17 PM
LOL
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Post by: Crooked Stic on October 24, 2020, 10:51:00 PM
Geesh I been cutting veneer with a traditional box cutter. :dunno:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Longcruise on October 24, 2020, 11:23:36 PM
Geesh I been cutting veneer with a traditional box cutter. :dunno:

Me too, stic.  If cutting to length it's the Bowyers secret weapon.   Hacksaw!!!! :)
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 25, 2020, 06:52:28 AM
Ah so that's why you guys bows are wavy on the sides?

 :laughing:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 25, 2020, 08:06:40 AM
Box cutter works too, on the length I just use scissors... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Mad Max on October 25, 2020, 09:28:24 AM
GETTING BACK ON THE SUBJECT :banghead: :bigsmyl:
Those veneers look like quilted maple kenny?
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 25, 2020, 09:48:57 AM
Don't think so, Mark, they were more reddish before I cleaned em up in sander.  Maple is more of a tan to me when oxidized ?

Hope they aren't too light for the riser but I'm goin with them.
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Mad Max on October 25, 2020, 09:53:37 AM
 :thumbsup: It's gonna look good ;)
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 25, 2020, 09:55:45 AM
Sawed the riser out while scarf gluing...

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This is what the scarf joint should look like when done. I mark center of all lams on edge to line up with center Mark on form

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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 25, 2020, 10:57:52 AM
Gonna be a pretty riser.

Ya gonna put an accent stripe between them?

Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Mad Max on October 25, 2020, 11:17:03 AM
I can't git a scarf joint like that on my 6" x 80" belt sander, I need to get a small disk sander with the sanding disk GLUED to it should do a great job. :thumbsup:

I new I could learn somepen from you :laughing:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 25, 2020, 12:49:43 PM
This old beast uses a psa disc but the table is way better than most new ones for staying square to disc
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Longcruise on October 25, 2020, 12:56:28 PM
I do them on a Rigid oscillator and find it very difficult to get good scarf joints. :(
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 25, 2020, 03:21:02 PM
They can be a pain for sure , I just take my time and go with the flow...
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 25, 2020, 06:03:54 PM
Gonna be a pretty riser.

Ya gonna put an accent stripe between them?



Not sure yet, makin it up as I go... :laughing:
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 25, 2020, 09:05:42 PM
This bad boy makes good scarf sander.
(https://i.imgur.com/GDSkH1g.jpg)
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 26, 2020, 11:25:20 AM
Mike, what kind is that, and how is the table for sturdy and staying square?

Thanks,
kenny
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 26, 2020, 04:41:47 PM
Had some .050 glass that looked like the sanded side just hadn’t cleaned up when they made it, so sanded to .040 ,,,

Got it taped and center marked, also mark center on edge so I can see it during glue up.

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Then a prob , while test fitting riser I found a bad grain in it...

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Now searching for a replacement ...
Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 26, 2020, 04:43:04 PM
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Title: Re: Any interest in a build?
Post by: kennym on October 26, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
Glad it broke before glued in a bow tho!!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 26, 2020, 05:13:27 PM
Ah crap, sorry bud.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on October 26, 2020, 06:16:25 PM
No worries , found a chunk of Bocote that was1.25” thick ?? So I found some stuff to I beam it . There is no tellin how this bow will look. LOL

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 26, 2020, 06:21:20 PM
I got some pretty wood from a gun stock maker estate sell. I can root through it and send ya something if ya like.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on October 26, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
That bocote not purty  nuff?  :biglaugh:

But thanks Pops...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 26, 2020, 06:41:23 PM
Bocote makes me itchy:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2020, 06:47:01 PM
Ah crap, sorry bud.

(https://i.imgur.com/vJlw5OD.jpg)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 26, 2020, 06:48:37 PM
OH Markie, dat wuz baaad.
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Post by: Autumnarcher on October 27, 2020, 10:40:40 AM
Bet ya cussed when that cocobolo broke. The bocote sure has some nice grain to it, thats gonna be a nice lookin riser.
Bocote is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Buemaker on October 27, 2020, 10:45:46 AM
Bocote with a red/brown colored I beam is just stunning.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on October 27, 2020, 11:20:38 AM
It was Grenadillo, but had that coco color...  Nah, just glad it broke before I glued up into a bow.

Bue, I'm hopin so . Should have put yellow accents in tho, that might have been really killer with bocote and bubinga. Ahhh maybe next time...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: David Flanrey on October 27, 2020, 03:51:35 PM
You gonna have that thing ready to shoot by this weekend?
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on October 27, 2020, 04:03:03 PM
Not lookin like it!! LOL

Huntin season... :bigsmyl:
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Post by: kennym on October 27, 2020, 08:38:33 PM
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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Autumnarcher on October 27, 2020, 08:56:44 PM
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Heres one I built with wenge, bocote and red G10. Really liked the way it came out.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 27, 2020, 09:12:51 PM
Nice Kenny and John.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 28, 2020, 06:41:26 AM
Kenny that sander is Harbor Frieght. I have not used a bunch yet (Ben in TD mode) But the table seems to be pretty solid so far.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: ztontonz on October 28, 2020, 01:18:24 PM
Beautiful wood combo on that bow Autumnarcher! Top notch!
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Post by: ztontonz on October 28, 2020, 01:45:23 PM
Kenny, I am kind of glad your first riser failed. This new one is going to look even better!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 28, 2020, 01:56:16 PM
Yup the ole boy could use a new riser...
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Post by: skeaterbait on October 28, 2020, 02:33:50 PM
Yup the ole boy could use a new riser...


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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Carpdaddy on October 30, 2020, 07:27:29 AM
 :laughing:Roy  :laughing:

Looking good Kenny!  :clapper:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Buemaker on October 30, 2020, 08:32:09 AM
New riser? Soft or hard wood? :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 11:50:31 AM
Glue up today  :goldtooth:



Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 11:54:42 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 12:53:34 PM
The glue, ea40 seems to be non critical on ratio since you can mix equal or 2/1 so anymore I just use a bit less hardener and go with it...

Keep everything clean and mix well then mix again. You have time and neither component will hold a bow together by itself .

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 12:58:28 PM
Other accessories laid out, bout go time...

Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 01:02:05 PM
That's weird, I only laid that stuff out once... :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2020, 02:31:30 PM
You need a impact gun to build a bow :o
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 02:33:41 PM
I like you guys but not nuff to take pics of the glue spreading !  :laughing:

Here I have the stuff on the form and the zip Ty’s in place, nice thing about them is you can tighten them slowly and the riser moves away from the one you pull tighter so it’s easy to center it up on the form .



Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
Yep easier than handles on the bolts....  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 02:38:42 PM
A bit too much glue , but like a weapon I’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.... :o

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And last one for today, if you wipe the glue down between plastic you can tear most of it off the blank and grind less...

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 03:10:07 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2020, 05:16:05 PM
looks like you could break those fades off :scared:
For a pro like you, you don't need no stinkin metal strip on top :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: ztontonz on November 03, 2020, 05:16:52 PM
Looking good Kenny :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 07:16:35 PM
Ha Mark ! Just another test !

Mainly cuz I forgot the damn thing !  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 07:54:37 PM
 :laughing:
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Post by: skeaterbait on November 03, 2020, 08:02:13 PM
Ha Mark ! Just another test !

Mainly cuz I forgot the damn thing !  :laughing:

My experience is that it leaves a lovely fire hose pattern on your bow.  :banghead:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Buemaker on November 04, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
I forgot one time to put the metal pressure strip on and found it more difficult to tear the tape off as it had a hose pattern, but only in the tape. When using zip ties I pump it up to about 20-30 pounds and let it sit for a while then pull them out. With a metal strip I once left them in place until glue had cured with no ill effects. Without a metal strip I would think you would get som marks across.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Flem on November 04, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
Awesome details. I think somebody needs to do a full length video of spreading EA-40 on a 5 lam blank.
I know just the guy for the job :deadhorse:   It's not me!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 04, 2020, 04:52:19 PM
I'll not do it:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 07, 2020, 10:26:08 AM
Sorry this is goin slow but I'm rutting... :biglaugh:
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Post by: skeaterbait on November 07, 2020, 10:27:16 AM
You dirty old man....  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on November 07, 2020, 09:14:07 PM
Your neck swelled up   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 08, 2020, 04:20:28 AM
His necks bout the only thing that's gonna swell up on him.

Unless he smacks his thumb wif ah hammer:)

Lmfao
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 08, 2020, 07:48:59 AM
 :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on November 08, 2020, 10:43:51 AM
You old dudes have a good sense of humor!!  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 08, 2020, 10:46:58 AM
Yup, bout all we got anymore:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 08, 2020, 10:52:06 AM
I'm right there wif ya! LOL

Off work til spring and huntin is gettin good !!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 08, 2020, 12:17:42 PM
That's awesome Kenny.
Looking forward to pichers of your big buck...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Bvas on November 08, 2020, 02:29:26 PM
Hope your getting better weather than we are!!

Sunny and 77 degree  :banghead:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 08, 2020, 02:39:34 PM
70 here but Bro has seen 7 bucks cruising today so I'm gettin back out this eve with some sunscreen
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 08, 2020, 07:36:10 PM
70 here but Bro has seen 7 bucks cruising today so I'm gettin back out this eve with some sunscreen

In your spare time you need to be building a bow :biglaugh: :knothead:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 11:57:47 AM
Ok nuff complainin !!!

Here’s the glue I could break off after wiping it down between the plastic sheets ...



Don’t forget to transfer the riser centerline to the glass if anything moved cuz you are prob gonna grind it off cleaning glue up, this one was good except for the parallel lam. I saw it while gluing but didn’t mess with trying to move it because all else lined up good .



Here she is all cleaned up on one side and now to run her thru the thickness sander for the other side.





Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 12:14:03 PM
Must have kept stuff lined up fair, only 1/32” to clean up

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My lovely assistant got glue on the tape (wait I don’t have one in shop ) so i Peeled tape off and retaped so my straightedge doesn’t tip and mismark the limb

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Looks pretty good with Bocote ?
Don’t mind Lucky , he’s a bit mental , especially around cats. Must have had a bad go with one...

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 09, 2020, 12:51:22 PM
Looks good Kenny  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 12:52:46 PM
BTW, that pressure strip was in there! LOL You had me thinkin I forgot it... :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 09, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
Looks good ole timer.

Hi Lucky
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 04:08:28 PM
Now to lay out limbs , this is a 58” so I mark 29” each way from center of bow . OOPS wrong pic!! Almost laid out a 60"  LOL



Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 04:21:26 PM
Now I’ve squared across where I marked the 29” from center . No pics sorry.

Mark center at centerline and at 29” marks and stretch a string from nock marks

This one is off a little bit . The tips should be in line with centerline mark.

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I clamp a piece of mono at each end and check

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Here I move both tips the same way to bring in line with center

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 04:22:25 PM
 :archer2:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 09, 2020, 04:52:15 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 09, 2020, 04:56:43 PM
Nice build along :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 09, 2020, 05:06:47 PM
This better son?






Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Shredd on November 09, 2020, 06:45:33 PM
  purty curves on her...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 09, 2020, 06:46:43 PM
Where did you get that Yeller masking Tape :tongue:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 09, 2020, 06:54:22 PM
Thanks Roy , you prob just put some chriorpratcors outta biz tho!
 :biglaugh:

Mark, bought that on ebay, said it was 1.5" wide, well it ain't It is a metric narrower than 1.5"

I bought 12 rolls of it and just use it here and there cause I didn't wanna send it back.

Told the seller and they said it was sold to them as 1.5 and they never checked it... :knothead:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Autumnarcher on November 09, 2020, 07:14:45 PM
I bought a roll of the blue tape was supposed to be 1.5" opened up and it was 2 rolls of 3/4". I think its a conspiracy to screw us up. they also did some of that metric mumbo-jumbo so I dont even know what it really works out to.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 09, 2020, 07:18:45 PM
That's why I don't make dem gwass bows...

Ya gotta worry bout a 1/16th of an inch here and there....

Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Shredd on November 09, 2020, 07:31:06 PM
I bought a roll of the blue tape was supposed to be 1.5" opened up and it was 2 rolls of 3/4". I think its a conspiracy to screw us up. they also did some of that metric mumbo-jumbo so I dont even know what it really works out to.

now that really cracks me up... watcha expect one roll of 1 1/2"??   :laughing: :laughing:  lucky you didn't get 3 rolls of 1/2"...  :laughing: :laughing:  just too funny... i'll be laughing all night every time I think of this one...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 09, 2020, 07:40:41 PM
 :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 10, 2020, 11:33:05 AM
Raining this morn so a bit of work on this, planning to be in stand bout 2

Temp is dropping 25 degrees today by dark , should be a good afternoon

I leave the line and the edge sander makes it straight





Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 10, 2020, 11:40:40 AM
Cool...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on November 10, 2020, 01:15:41 PM
I leave the line and the edge sander makes it straight

Is that cut with a bandsaw?

Good luck with the hunt, I've found the animals are restless and moving a lot as a big storm or cold front rolls in, then they bunker down until after the storm passes.


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 10, 2020, 01:40:47 PM
No I grind them on a 6" disc with 40 grit, 10 minutes to the lines and way cheaper than bandsaw blades...

Thanks, I'm about to head out, but wind is 18 mph now! LOL
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Buemaker on November 10, 2020, 04:00:49 PM
Seems to be a lot of conspiracies these days ;) now one in 3/4 inch.  I use the 2 inch yellow tape, put it on the glass and just cut off the overhang with a sharp knife.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Nicholi on November 11, 2020, 03:30:31 PM




Kenny, I know I'm off topic a bit here, but can you tell me a little bit about your drum sander? How big is it? Have you ever sanded down the edge on a whole bow on a smaller one? Do you have problems keeping it even, or is it pretty good?
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Flem on November 11, 2020, 04:43:34 PM
I don't think thats a drum sander, it looks like a really sweet wide belt :thumbsup:
Now I have some serious tool envy ;)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 11, 2020, 05:12:40 PM
That emergency stop has me wondering:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 11, 2020, 06:03:10 PM
I think it's a G0527

https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-18-5-hp-wide-belt-sander/g0527
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 11, 2020, 08:36:45 PM
Yep, 527  18x48 belt  it's a hog of a sander.  You could run them on a drum sander just the same.  If the first side I do on the disc is straight, so is the one that gets done with the big sander.  They are usually really close tho.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Nicholi on November 11, 2020, 10:07:07 PM
Ah, that would explain why I couldn't find it under Grizzly's drum sanders...

Thanks!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 14, 2020, 03:08:35 PM
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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 14, 2020, 03:25:34 PM
Awesome :thumbsup:
You missed the centerline on the nocks, time to get some new Glasses  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 14, 2020, 03:31:27 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 14, 2020, 03:34:24 PM
Had to move over a bit, didn't line up thru riser centerline.  Did that on purpose to show how to align tips with riser... :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 14, 2020, 06:26:53 PM
NO, the centerline at the string groves :laughing: 
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 14, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
That's what I moved, same amount on both tips. See the old line I checked centerline of bow with and the new line I moved over to line up with riser center?
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 14, 2020, 07:26:09 PM
 :thumbsup: ;)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Longcruise on November 14, 2020, 10:51:43 PM
So,  is it that you guys draw lines and measure stuff and all like that?  :dunno:

Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 15, 2020, 05:54:06 AM
All them gwass bow guys do that:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 15, 2020, 08:08:56 AM
Yup, we like to draw ...  Now where's my crayon?  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 15, 2020, 08:32:17 AM
Don't you be taking Josie's crayons papa:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 15, 2020, 08:47:49 AM
Looking good Kenny
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Longcruise on November 15, 2020, 01:10:20 PM
I'm going to try that drawing thing next time around.  I usually just eyeball them and start grinding away on 36 grit till it looks sorta like a bow.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 15, 2020, 02:46:18 PM
That'll wook on gwass bowes I hear...  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 15, 2020, 08:37:38 PM
Just in case you are lookin Kenny Roy got all the PINK crayons afore they even boxed them up.  :bigsmyl: :deadhorse:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 15, 2020, 08:58:10 PM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 15, 2020, 09:20:28 PM
Well dang , I was gonna get him some for Christmas ...

If you lightly sand the glass the overlay will fit better

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This side needed a bit more

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I double tape at the ends of overlays and finish Sanding up to tape with a pc of sanding belt folded

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On curved limbs I use 2 pieces of phenolic so I don’t have to fit to limb curve. I slip a sammich bag over end of limb and using limb as a form glue the pieces together . Then take off and pre bevel the inner end to make sanding to the limb glass easier. Then glue to limb

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 19, 2020, 11:59:47 AM
Too dang wind and hot to hunt so I’ll do a bit more on this ...

Gonna put the belly overlay on, remember we smoothed the glass out with the curved block? Here is where it helps ya out. Easier to do a smooth curve on the disc sander than a bumpy one. Bout ten minutes and she is tight.

Also I cut a relief cut in the grip cutout , just habit to let the overlay flex a little when clamping. Just don’t cut into where the grip is gonna be ...

Marked

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Fitted and relief cut

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Some rough drawing for riser shape, also keeps me from reversing the overlay. I want original grain to line up ...

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Shaped the ends of overlay to save work later...

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 19, 2020, 12:01:00 PM
She’s glued on but I put phone away when glue comes out ...  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on November 19, 2020, 12:37:17 PM
Too dang wind and hot to hunt so I’ll do a bit more on this ...

I could trade you some of this...


She’s glued on but I put phone away when glue comes out ...  :laughing:

Chicken  ;)

Moar pics! This is looking great so far and I need something to tide me over while I am stuck at home and frozen out of the shop.


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 19, 2020, 01:01:46 PM
I'd take some of that in moderation... LOL

BTW I glued all overlays on with the blue top Gorilla CA glue.  I glue both surfaces , glass first because I figure it won't absorb into it as much as the wood. It gives plenty of time to clamp (usually)  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on November 19, 2020, 02:15:07 PM
I'd take some of that in moderation... LOL

It does make the hunting easier. Snow for tracking, no issues with cooling the meat and hanging in an unheated garage for a week is no problem. Not really t-shirt weather, though...


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 19, 2020, 02:37:25 PM
She’s glued on but I put phone away when glue comes out.

No wonder ya never answer my calls:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 19, 2020, 04:31:26 PM

Shaped the ends of overlay to save work later...



That's the key to making it easy er :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 19, 2020, 04:46:06 PM
I pre shape my tip over lays too and the ends of the riser....

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 19, 2020, 11:05:58 PM
Lookin good Kenny.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 20, 2020, 08:05:28 AM
Looking real good Kenny glad to see you doing this build !
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 20, 2020, 12:55:11 PM
Thanks guys, btw the gorilla ca was still wet where it squeezed out a couple hours later !!!

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 20, 2020, 01:00:02 PM
I clamped  some plywood blocks wrapped in plastic at the ends of the belly overlay fades even tho I didn't figure it needed it.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 20, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 21, 2020, 06:19:44 PM
Crap , I was lookin at Roy’s overlays and put mine on crooked like his.... :laughing:

Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 21, 2020, 07:00:34 PM
Nah, yer picher is crooked and I haint gonna fixit fo ya....

 :wavey:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 21, 2020, 07:09:49 PM
My cell fone don't know which way is up!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 21, 2020, 07:42:13 PM
Yer cell fone haint the only thing that don't kno which way is up...

 :wavey:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 21, 2020, 07:43:14 PM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 22, 2020, 05:55:53 AM
Ok I fixed yer darn crooked Picher...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 22, 2020, 10:02:06 AM
I dont see no picher  :dunno:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 22, 2020, 10:25:51 AM
Scroll up ole sticky pops...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 22, 2020, 11:56:20 AM
Maybe I better just not say nuffin
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 22, 2020, 01:41:57 PM
I'm about done with pics here, cant even delete the damn things!! :banghead:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 22, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
 :cheesy:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 22, 2020, 03:10:04 PM
Gone...

Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Autumnarcher on November 22, 2020, 05:16:39 PM
My cell fone don't know which way is up!  :biglaugh:


I have that same problem postin pics here from by phone. I can either email them to myself and then download to my laptop, or just post em from the phone and let y'all hafta stand on yer head to look at em. Its kinda a photoshop roulette.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 22, 2020, 06:28:40 PM
Got tips roughed in , May take the bocote/ bubinga layer off ... ?

Note the flexible rasp , just shoeshine it , easy peasy

 
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Bvas on November 22, 2020, 07:18:06 PM
Looking good Kenny  :bigsmyl: Even if the overlay is crooked as hell.  :biglaugh:

Those flexible rasps are handy. I use them a lot.  Use a very thin strip in the string groove to take care of sharp edges.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 22, 2020, 07:35:23 PM
That’s Roy’s fault, was lookin at his overlays and thought it was Sposed to be like that!!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Longcruise on November 22, 2020, 08:10:25 PM
Quote


I have that same problem postin pics here from by phone. I can either email them to myself and then download to my laptop, or just post em from the phone and let y'all hafta stand on yer head to look at em. Its kinda a photoshop roulette.

You can download an app called "photo and Picture Resizer"  for free.  It will resize,flip and crop AND saves the original as it was.   From there it's easy to post from the phone.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 22, 2020, 08:57:44 PM
Looking good Kenny  :bigsmyl: Even if the overlay is crooked as hell.  :biglaugh:

Those flexible rasps are handy. I use them a lot.  Use a very thin strip in the string groove to take care of sharp edges.

I've seen sanding string somewhere as well that would be great in nock grooves...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Autumnarcher on November 23, 2020, 03:35:40 AM
I've got some of that sanding cord stuff, is kinda handy for string grooves. Easier than tryin to peel skinny strips of sandpaper.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 23, 2020, 05:16:57 AM
I use the sanding cord, pretty neat stuff..
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 23, 2020, 07:19:10 AM
For those string grooves get you some emery cloth. I got 80 and 320 grit. Take your box cutter and start cuts on the end about 3/16s wide then rip it into strips. Clamp one end down then roll it like twisting a string. The 80 will take material out. then 320 to finish.
Flexible round rasp.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 23, 2020, 07:32:24 AM
I guess it could work:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 23, 2020, 05:33:54 PM
Well I marked the riser out and before I knew it I had it roughed in , shelf cut and shot it. Sorry no pics of process , guess I was really into it( and Freebird was on radio )











Zwickey thought I was gonna take her stogie for celebration!!



Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 23, 2020, 05:37:28 PM
In that second pic, I think I'll change the profile of the riser to where the point is at the maple stripe ...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 23, 2020, 05:48:08 PM
Sweet and I agree on 2nd picture.
LOL on Zwickey.
Good job on pichers.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 23, 2020, 05:51:19 PM
Just lucky ... lol
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 23, 2020, 06:09:53 PM
In that second pic, I think I'll change the profile of the riser to where the point is at the maple stripe ...

yep :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 23, 2020, 10:54:18 PM
That one is looking good. At least what you said about the second pic and maybe more if it wus me.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Buemaker on November 24, 2020, 09:35:08 AM
Goodlooking piece. Dog looks allright too.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Shredd on November 24, 2020, 09:39:57 AM
  looking good kenny...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 24, 2020, 10:51:07 AM
Thanks guys!!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 24, 2020, 11:22:56 AM
Looks good Kenny, my kinda dog stoogie smoker  :)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: rainman on November 25, 2020, 12:05:33 AM
Looking good Kenny, I had those veneers for over 20 years.  Got them from a retired cabinet maker.  He did not remember what they were but I don't think they were maple.  I do have some brazilian rosewood veneers from him so that should tell you how long he had the stuff before he gave it to me.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 07:35:34 AM
No I'm sure they aren't maple either. I wondered how old they were because the ones I've bought recently were .023" and these were .035"..
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 25, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Start date...

October 22, 2020, 08:02:58 PM....

When this bow gonna be done?

Wanna see a full draw picher with you wearing those fancy smancy sweat pants:)

 :wavey:

 :laughing:

Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 25, 2020, 11:37:47 AM
I wus just thinkin the same thing. :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Longcruise on November 25, 2020, 12:13:05 PM
Hey, I have a bow I've been working on for over three years.  :)  maybe ill finish it in 2021.....or maybe not.  :dunno:

Don't let em rush ya, Kenny.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 12:25:16 PM
Right on Mike Lee!!

But look at that form!!

And how I'm drawin the bow too... :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 25, 2020, 12:43:27 PM
I wouldn't know where to begin to put the air hose on that form:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 12:45:07 PM
IT'D BE A FIRE HOSE...  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 25, 2020, 01:05:24 PM
Xcuse me, I hain't up on gwass bows much.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 01:44:45 PM
Just kiddin mr roy
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 02:17:05 PM
Rounded limb edges , she’s comin around ...

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 25, 2020, 02:25:52 PM
 :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Longcruise on November 25, 2020, 02:43:02 PM
I wouldn't know where to begin to put the air hose on that form:)

Aaaaarrrrggh!    :scared:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
Here’s some early stats

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 25, 2020, 03:28:11 PM
That is smoking them arrows Kenny.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 03:35:39 PM
Yeah it’s not  the quickest , but it will be plenty to hunt with.

If you think an inch of draw doesn’t do much , study those numbers!!!

Long armed guys get free fps lol
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 25, 2020, 04:17:35 PM
Really nice Kenny
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 04:31:48 PM
It is a bare string with only tie on nocks , I’ll try to remember to check after a couple wool puffs are added .
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 25, 2020, 05:58:51 PM
It is a bare string with only tie on nocks , I’ll try to remember to check after a couple wool puffs are added .

Let's see it
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 06:01:43 PM
Meant a endless loop string with Tie on nicks
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 25, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
What are tie on nicks?

That special gwass bow stuff?:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Buemaker on November 25, 2020, 06:58:26 PM
Excellent speed on that one. :)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 25, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
String nocking points LOL

Thanks!!

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 25, 2020, 09:50:12 PM
That design. is a good one for sure. You probably said but has it got the superlam?
And if you wanted to play with more power lam you could gain a little for short arm guys to.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 26, 2020, 10:14:14 AM
Really good numbers for sure Kenny take it out to 31” and these bows are crazy fast, I really like that design a lot , It’s highly modifiable with always good results  :notworthy:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Flem on November 26, 2020, 10:33:55 AM
Damn that is fast, make me feel like a Turtle
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: jess stuart on November 26, 2020, 12:21:58 PM
Great build a long with a great looking and performing bow as a result.  What was you stack or did I miss that? 
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 26, 2020, 12:25:09 PM
Hi jess , .285 with the superlam and .040 glass.

The pic of the stack has Bocote veneers I see . I change stuff as I go ... lol

Ended up using different veneers .
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 26, 2020, 12:26:18 PM
Flem , speed is down the list a couple notches for me but cool when it happens ...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: jess stuart on November 26, 2020, 12:42:00 PM
Thanks Kenny the .285 at the butt correct?
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 26, 2020, 12:59:42 PM
Yes sir except the SL  I measure at 18” from butt and add the .018 for the taper to get nominal butt thickness.

Like for a .060 in stack I make it .042 in center of lam
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 26, 2020, 01:07:32 PM
Splain dat in fractions....
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 26, 2020, 02:35:15 PM
Yes sir except the SL  I measure at 18” from butt and add the 18/1000 for the taper to get nominal butt thickness.

Like for a 60/ 1000  in stack I make it 42/1000 in center of lam

How dat? :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on November 26, 2020, 06:22:46 PM
How dat? :laughing:

Outstanding. :biglaugh:

How about some more pics of the complete bow since it it is kicking ass and taking names at the range already?


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 26, 2020, 07:06:14 PM
I have to sand and spray it . If I can shoot it decently it might get to go huntin . Hard to give up my 4 year old hunting bow .

It won’t be as quick when I get silencers on string and shoot with fingers instead of the machine with caliper release...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 26, 2020, 07:11:51 PM
Dat better..
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 26, 2020, 07:33:16 PM
How dat? :laughing:

Outstanding. :biglaugh:

How about some more pics of the complete bow since it it is kicking ass and taking names at the range already?


Mark

x2
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on November 27, 2020, 10:58:28 AM
I have to sand and spray it .

You're among friends here, we won't complain about seeing it without makeup. I just want to see a couple overall shots of it to see the profiles and how it all looks in its final form. Before I order a kit for one, anyway. :bigsmyl:


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 27, 2020, 01:56:35 PM
Mark I have made a few of the FHLBs in 60 in. You will like them.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 27, 2020, 02:18:47 PM
Yep you will like it I have made these bows between 58” & 64” both in glass and glass carbon & shortened the risers 12 & 13 “ all where great performers very adaptable  design ,I have one in the works now 56” 12” riser ! also shortened the power lam on a few, it’s hard to go wrong with the design !
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 27, 2020, 05:01:34 PM
Ritchie I know you will fill us in on the stacks for that 12 in. riser.  :wavey:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 27, 2020, 05:38:55 PM
Mike I will dig out my notes but if I remember right I used the 60” @28 50lb stack and 12” riser  cut 1” off the super lam for a 60” @31”  48 lb don’t quote me on it let me see if I can find my notes , I built that bow thinking it would shoot heavy arrows better but it worked better with light arrows ,I posted it in a thread a while back ! maybe I put the specs there !
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Autumnarcher on November 27, 2020, 08:07:06 PM
"If you think an inch of draw doesn’t do much , study those numbers!!!

Long armed guys get free fps lol"

Crap I've been goin at this all wrong. I was uppin my poundage to get some more speed outta my 26" draw length. WHen all the while I shoulda be tryin to grow some longer arms.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 27, 2020, 08:39:04 PM
Yup!!  :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 27, 2020, 08:59:21 PM
"If you think an inch of draw doesn’t do much , study those numbers!!!

Long armed guys get free fps lol"

Crap I've been goin at this all wrong. I was uppin my poundage to get some more speed outta my 26" draw length. WHen all the while I shoulda be tryin to grow some longer arms.

you need to draw back to your ear :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvGAYBMhbKY
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on November 27, 2020, 09:19:17 PM
But still no more pictures I notice. I guess I should stop complaining about my 28" draw in this case. At least us short people get to use shorter bows that are handier to carry...


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 27, 2020, 09:49:54 PM
Sorry , have family in for thanksgiving , hunters in for the lease , and orders in to fill. Kinda on back burner for a day or two.

And my camera is lost in the sock drawer ...  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 28, 2020, 05:36:44 AM
Doesn't matter, the batteries are dead...

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Shredd on November 28, 2020, 08:30:19 AM
"If you think an inch of draw doesn’t do much , study those numbers!!!

Long armed guys get free fps lol"

Crap I've been goin at this all wrong. I was uppin my poundage to get some more speed outta my 26" draw length. WHen all the while I shoulda be tryin to grow some longer arms.

   or you could shorten your fingers...   :thumbsup:  :laughing:

on my bows i get about 9 fps extra for an extra inch of draw...   i just thought of something though... if you draw an extra inch you gain an extra 2 or so pounds... so to be fair you only gain about an extra 5 fps for an inch of draw...  i know it seams obvious but i never really thought about it like that... i more or less always gave credit to the extra inch and not the added draw weight... 

   sometimes more things are bought to light for me by reading things on the forum and answering my own questions...    :biglaugh:  :shaka:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 28, 2020, 09:13:30 AM
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sometimes more things are bought to light for me by reading things on the forum and answering my own questions...

LOL Rich

I understand that..
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on November 29, 2020, 04:39:46 PM
I found one more pic....

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Forwardhandle on November 29, 2020, 04:52:27 PM
Looks good Kenny !

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on November 29, 2020, 05:01:02 PM
Nice Kenny :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on November 29, 2020, 05:12:57 PM
The longer draw = longer power stroke will be faster. But if you if you keep the same GPP with the added pounds of the longer draw it wont be as much.
Kenny that is looking good at full draw.
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 04, 2020, 02:48:02 PM
Doing some sanding and lowered the shelf some. I like the arrow fairly close to hand..

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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 04, 2020, 02:54:14 PM
Purty nice Kenny
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 08:44:51 AM
Well, after much work and a little hunting, I may sand on her some more today and try to shoot some finish...

Gotta get her done and some arrows tuned, will be sitting a ground blind shortly I think...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 11, 2020, 09:11:25 AM
Didn't happen wif out pichers...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on December 11, 2020, 10:57:45 AM
Gotta get her done and some arrows tuned, will be sitting a ground blind shortly I think...

How long does your season run? Ours ended on Nov. 30th.


Didn't happen wif out pichers...

+1.  :biglaugh:


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 11:37:56 AM
Roy, you want pics of the bow or me in a ground blind?   :biglaugh:


Our season goes to Jan 15 .... :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 11, 2020, 11:40:20 AM
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Roy, you want pics of the bow or me in a ground blind?

Just the bow please:)

I got enough pichers of yer sexy butt:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 12:28:16 PM
Ok but I’m a bit disappointed ...  :laughing:

Shot a seal coat on riser. It will get about 5 coats and glass on limbs only 2-3




Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 12:30:01 PM
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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 12:31:42 PM
That’s just nuts, if you go in your pics and rotate it 4 times right back like it was it posts right !
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: mmattockx on December 11, 2020, 12:35:01 PM
Very nice. How thick was the overlay you used on the back in the riser area? Is that just cosmetic?


Mark
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
Thats a .040 black glass, and a slice off the riser but at the point your index finger goes around grip the glass only has about  3/8" (.375"  Roy) wide left so its cosmetic mostly...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 12:41:06 PM
I'll get some outdoor pics when it aint rainin and I have the finish finished...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 11, 2020, 12:41:53 PM
That’s just nuts, if you go in your pics and rotate it 4 times right back like it was it posts right !

Yupper.... Thunk I told ya that long time ago. Ya have to make sure you hit save after that..

Looks sweet Kenny

OK OK, send me another picher of you:)
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
You probably did! Sometimes ya gotta tell me a couple times.   :laughing: 

Thats what Renee says anyway a couple times... :deadhorse:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Crooked Stic on December 11, 2020, 02:27:36 PM
Oh my so Roy you think Kenny is sexy------------------ :o  :saywhat:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 02:33:45 PM
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Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Mad Max on December 11, 2020, 03:15:00 PM
Really nice Kenny :thumbsup:

You and roy should get Married, you know that kind of stuff is legal today :laughing: just sayin
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 03:17:23 PM
LOL , he talks too much...   :laughing:
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 11, 2020, 03:18:44 PM
I didn't think the veneers were gonna look right with the riser, but I'm likin it.  Gonna ask the whitetails what they think in a few days I think...
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 11, 2020, 04:05:22 PM
LOL
Title: Re: FHLB build
Post by: kennym on December 12, 2020, 12:52:13 PM
Almost done , I’m gonna see if I can kill sumpin with it before I give it the last coat of finish and I may change tiller slightly ...

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And my signature full draw pic...

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Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 12, 2020, 01:27:30 PM
Purty nice.

Tiller looks different than your other bows.
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Forwardhandle on December 12, 2020, 01:37:45 PM
Looks great Kenny hope you poke something with it !
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: kennym on December 12, 2020, 01:43:23 PM
Purty nice.

Tiller looks different than your other bows.

I usually go even tiller, this one ended up a fuzz negative after finish sanding.  Didn't check before I sprayed it, but doesn't seem to make any difference... yet...
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Buemaker on December 12, 2020, 01:51:57 PM
Looking goooood. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 12, 2020, 03:02:13 PM
Looks great Kenny hope you poke something with it !

Ya Richie, he will prolly poke somepin.
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Shredd on December 12, 2020, 06:52:56 PM
Nice... what does she look like at brace??
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: kennym on December 12, 2020, 08:32:48 PM
Well dang Rich I missed that one !

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Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 12, 2020, 08:53:14 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Kelly on December 12, 2020, 09:37:18 PM
👍

What is the brace in above picture? Looks pretty low.

Thanks
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 13, 2020, 04:03:02 AM
Looks like 7 to 7.5 to me.
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: kennym on December 13, 2020, 08:27:20 AM
I think it was about 7" in the pic, then when I started shooting it, I have raised it to 7.5"

Thanks folks, haven't shot it enough yet to know but it will be hard to replace my 64" TD for hunting, I've shot it for 4 years I think, so maybe just more used to it. Need to be as accurate as possible to hunt with anything. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Flem on December 13, 2020, 11:21:26 AM
Nice looking bow :thumbsup:
It has a clean, fluid look, one of the most visual appealing design, to my eyes.
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: kennym on December 13, 2020, 01:26:19 PM
Thanks folks, the TD is getting the nod for hunting right now, this 58" seems loud and wants a stiffer arrow than I have without dropping front end weight or buying new ones.  Plus the TD had done me well so I'll set up arrow for this one after season is over.
Title: Re: FHLB build Mostly done now!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 13, 2020, 02:34:46 PM
Good thinking grasshopper.

 :wavey: